Romney digs in: I will not be releasing more tax returns

posted at 4:41 pm on July 17, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

There’s a growing chorus insisting that Mitt Romney needs to release his tax returns, because otherwise, he’s the most secretive candidate since “Richard Nixon,” or something — but it isn’t just Democrats clamoring for him to do so, either. There’s a cadre of conservatives urging him to just bite the bullet and get it over with, too:

“He ought to release his returns,” former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, another prominent Republican, told conservative National Review Online. “Any time this campaign’s conversation is not about President Obama’s failed policies…then the [Romney] campaign isn’t talking about the right thing.”

Last week Texas Rep. Pete Sessions, head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said Mr. Romney’s personal finances were “fair game.”

And:

Strategic “advice” has been offered up on The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page, and in a series of high-profile tweets from NewsCorp CEO Rupert Murdoch. …

On “Fox News Sunday” this week, Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol called Romney’s refusal to release more than two years of tax returns “crazy.”

“He should release the tax returns tomorrow,” Mr. Kristol said. “You’ve got to release six, eight, 10 years of back tax returns.”

Over on ABC’s “This Week,” conservative columnist George Will chimed in by observing that Romney was “losing at this point in a big way.” Mr. Will added: “I do not know why, given that Mitt Romney knew the day that McCain lost in 2008 that he was going to run for president again that he didn’t get all of this out and tidy up some of his offshore accounts and all the rest.”

It seems that Mitt Romney, however, is not to be persuaded. On Tuesday, he reiterated to the NJ that he is set on this point and will not be releasing any more of his personal tax returns:

“In the political environment that exists today, the opposition research of the Obama campaign is looking for anything they can use to distract from the failure of the president to reignite our economy,” Romney said in an interview with National Review Online. “And I’m simply not enthusiastic about giving them hundreds or thousands of more pages to pick through, distort, and lie about.” …

Asked by the interviewer why he didn’t get rid of the off-shore tax accounts that have also become the subject of Obama campaign ads, Romney declined to offer a detailed explanation. He said only, “The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe.”

Allright, I’m gonna’ just ponder this out: I’m all about shutting down the Obama campaign’s bullying tactics and refusing to play the game on their terms; but then again, when it comes to the cheap populist appeals, Team Barack Obama has been known to play a damn good game.

Mitt Romney is a pretty judicious, pros-and-cons type of dude — while I highly doubt he did anything at all approaching illegality, he must think that his tax returns would provide Team Obama with more fodder for the anti-free enterprise, populist attacks. As legal and prudent as they can be, the general public probably wouldn’t be too receptive to “unpatriotic” offshore bank accounts or whatever else right now — the world of finance is a complex and tricky thing, and maybe it’s just not a good use of Mitt Romney’s time to be trying to explain hedge funds and whatnot when we need to be talking about broad economic solutions for our national economy.

Is it more worthwhile to let Team Obama keep harping on the “Romney is super-secretive meme,” which will eventually get put on the back-burner and with which they’ve already jumped the shark at least once, or to just let it all hang out and clear the air now while we still have months left to tinker with messaging? Even if Romney’s tax returns contain nothing at all untoward, I doubt they’d be able to tell Team Obama to stick that in their pipe and smoke it — Team Obama would find some way to hype their proffered image of Romney as a dastardly capitalist.

I honestly don’t know — Guy Benson and Conn Carroll offer two thorough, dissenting opinions if you’re looking for a little more analysis. So, what do you think? Should Mitt keep telling Team Obama to get lost, or just have out and be done with it?

So go the latest campaign shenanigans. Meanwhile, back at the ranch


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We drag Romney over the line or it is all over. Row or stfu.

tom daschle concerned on July 17, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Yep, pretty much my take too.

Bmore on July 17, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Romney did this…in fact both and he and his campaign said in a press release and in person that if Obama was interested in coming clean with the American people he could release the documents on Fast and Furious.

Terrye on July 17, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Not just a press release, he needs to run it in an ad campaign. These press releases and interviews mean nothing, they don’t resonate this early in the campaign.

And he needs to mention the college transcripts too.

Daemonocracy on July 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Obama got elected the whole time people were saying he should release his birth certificate. Didn’t seem to hurt him much.

I doubt this will hurt Mitt.

ButterflyDragon on July 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

No. I’m a conservative. Which is why I have issues with Romney.

casuist on July 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

OK, I lied. This is the last thing I have to say to you:

Of all the lies you’ve told today in this & other threads with your constant repetition of Obama talking points, THIS is the biggest lie you’ve told all day.

PS — you’re still a moron.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

I take it your in the camp of team Downgrade then?

No. I’m a conservative.

casuist on July 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Sure you are.

What makes you a Conservative?

Chip on July 17, 2012 at 7:25 PM

No. I’m a conservative. Which is why I have issues with Romney.

casuist on July 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Yeah right…are you from Canada? If so, Go Home Canuck!

Terrye on July 17, 2012 at 7:26 PM

We drag Romney over the line or it is all over. Row or stfu.

tom daschle concerned on July 17, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Yep, pretty much my take too.

Bmore on July 17, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Aye Jimmy.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2012 at 7:27 PM

No. I’m a conservative. Which is why I have issues with Romney.

casuist on July 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

you have issues, period. Which, honestly, should be between you and your shrink, and not a public matter on a forum.

jimver on July 17, 2012 at 7:28 PM

No. I’m a conservative. Which is why I have issues with Romney.

casuist on July 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

OK, I lied. This is the last thing I have to say to you:

Of all the lies you’ve told today in this & other threads with your constant repetition of Obama talking points, THIS is the biggest lie you’ve told all day.

PS — you’re still a moron.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Do you want to wager how long it will be until the banhammer swings on this troll?

Chip on July 17, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Obama got elected the whole time people were saying he should release his birth certificate. Didn’t seem to hurt him much.

I doubt this will hurt Mitt.

ButterflyDragon on July 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

it hasn’t (look at the polls) and it won’t.

jimver on July 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Romney should just make a deal:

“I’ll release my tax returns when you release the lawfully subpoenaed fast and furious documents”

He should make that deal and repeat it over and over again, get it in the media so they have to talk about both the operation and the cover-up, OR have them shut up about the tax returns. He shouldn’t ask why BO doesn’t reveal them, he should cut a deal to do so.

Then we’ll see what liberal journalists want more.

RizzyG on July 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM

How DARE you accuse Romney of hiding something, simply because he won’t release his tax returns, which looks fishy, and looks just as bad as Obama not releasing his college records.

How dare you!!!

portlandon on July 17, 2012 at 7:21 PM

I apologize. For my penance, I’ll join the chorus of true believers and suggest that Romney just turns around and demands Obama’s college transcripts, which the media will ignore, and nobody will hear about, so that the ads making Romney look shifty will continue, and any counter-ads bringing up the transcripts will be baffling(or look like Romney is just copying Obama) to 99% of voters.

MadisonConservative on July 17, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Sorry, late on the thread, but what Romney needs to do is say, “Okay, I propose to release 5 years of my tax returns simultaneously with President Obama’s release of the following:

1. All college and law school transcripts;
2. All college and law school papers authored or co-authored by him; and
3. All documents related to the purchase and financing of his home in Chicago and any transactions related thereto involving convicted felon Tony Rezko or any entity that Rezko owned or controlled at that time.

TXUS on July 17, 2012 at 7:30 PM

To all those creepy little rodent like lying media types that keep on asking for his tax return.

First of all those returns are not secret and have been submitted and vetted by the IRS, the biggest bloudhound around Nd they did not find anything wrong.

But now we are on it, since you are interested, why not do your homework long overdue on that Obama guy that now we know is surrounded by corrupt felons, marxists and thieves that steal our money through taxation and get it back from Barry in plush jobs and subsidizing failed business?

When are you asking for obama’s school records and when are you investigating how all those years were funded and by whom.

When are you investigating how a doped up marxist could get those scolarships and when are you investigating that pilygamist father of him (since romney’s great great father is of so much concern)

And lastly, when are you going back under your bridged and swallow the venom you spit into our society and leave us alone?

huntingmoose on July 17, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Romney should just make a deal:

“I’ll release my tax returns when you release the lawfully subpoenaed fast and furious documents”

He should make that deal and repeat it over and over again, get it in the media so they have to talk about both the operation and the cover-up, OR have them shut up about the tax returns. He shouldn’t ask why BO doesn’t reveal them, he should cut a deal to do so.

Then we’ll see what liberal journalists want more.

RizzyG on July 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Good, but let’s be accurate, it should be “I’ll release tax returns older than the last two years when you release…”

The average slob that watches CNN thinks that the Governor hasn’t released anthing.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Romney digs in: I will not be releasing more tax returns

Let’s talk about documents that have been released by Obama

July 17, 2012
EXHAUSTIVE INQUIRY LEADS TO NEW INFORMATION
SHERIFF’S INVESTIGATORS:

“PRESIDENT’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD”

ITguy on July 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM

No. I’m a conservative. Which is why I have issues with Romney.

casuist on July 17, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Then you have to go to war with the army you have, instead of the one you wish you had. That’s what most of the rest of us are doing.

Harbingeing on July 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Obama got elected the whole time people were saying he should release his birth certificate.

ButterflyDragon on July 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Obama made a lot of people look stupid when he finally did release his birth certificate. Could this be a Romney ploy? What if there is nothing embarrassing in the returns, and Obama makes a big stink over releasing them only to find everything squeaky clean?

topdog on July 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

MadisonConservative on July 17, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Romney or his “Crack team of GOP professionals” were caught flat footed on this. To keep this up is lunacy. It gives Obama and his minions (the media) a constant target. The more Romney says he won’t release them, the more guilty he looks of something.

Release them, and if there’s nothing there the Obamacrats will look like the idiots we all know them to be.

portlandon on July 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Obama made a lot of people look stupid when he finally did release his birth certificate. Could this be a Romney ploy? What if there is nothing embarrassing in the returns, and Obama makes a big stink over releasing them only to find everything squeaky clean?

There is no squeaky clean. If he made money, he’s part of the 1% and therefore must be destroyed by the regime

RizzyG on July 17, 2012 at 7:36 PM

The democrats may be saying to Romney, release the returns, but you know they hope Romney continues to stonewall. The steady drip, drip, drip, will lead to death by a thousand cuts.

smokin hot politics on July 17, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Do you want to wager how long it will be until the banhammer swings on this troll?

Chip on July 17, 2012 at 7:28 PM

LOL — based on today alone, I think he’s going for a record.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 7:38 PM

That is the *opposite* of what McCain said.

PS — you’re still a moron.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Thank you for pointing the truth out.

I did my research about it now, when I should have done it before taking casuist’s words at face value – I just figured s/he wouldn’t have been so stupid as to link to a story which didn’t support the contention s/he was making! I apologize for my error, now let’s see if casuist does for hers/his! [ROFL@that idea!]

Here is what McCain actually had to say about the issue, causist, 180° opposite of what you portrayed, you terrible, partisan reporter you:

When pressed about whether Romney might be shielding his returns because he paid no taxes, McCain refused to discuss such specifics.

“Please, I am not going to get into that kind of conversation,” he said. “All I can tell you, and I can tell you again, is there was nothing disqualifying in his tax returns. And that is a fact.”

“So if your opponent makes a big deal out of some issue, then you’re supposed to do something that no one else has done?” McCain asked. “Like if you’re married to a very wealthy billionaire, should you have been revealing her tax returns?”

“I don’t recall that happening with the Kerry campaign,” he added, referring to Teresa Heinz Kerry’s refusal to disclose her tax returns during the 2004 presidential bid of her husband, Sen. John Kerry.

“Should Kerry have released more? Should I have released more? Should George Bush have released more?” McCain asked.

“You can make the same argument with every other candidate,” he continued. “[The Obama campaign] can’t talk about the economy, so they have to make personal attacks against a good and decent man.”

Bizarro No. 1 on July 17, 2012 at 7:41 PM

I don’t think he should have to release his returns. Having said that,

1. Why weren’t they prepared to deal with Qs on this? Why not simply say there’s no real reason to do this, it’s only a witch hunt

2. This was a foolish, arrogant-sounding thing to say:

Asked by the interviewer why he didn’t get rid of the off-shore tax accounts that have also become the subject of Obama campaign ads, Romney declined to offer a detailed explanation. He said only, “The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe.”

He should have prepared a one sentence answer that didn’t sound insulting.

3. I don’t think it’s wise to make an adamant statement such as this, unless you’re absolutely positively sure you won’t have to walk it back.

4. IMO it doesn’t do any good to threaten tit for tat on Obama documents because the media couldn’t care less.

INC on July 17, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Romney, tell them to kiss it.

Then start slamming Obama on all his crap.

Take the gloves off.

davidk on July 17, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Good, but let’s be accurate, it should be “I’ll release tax returns older than the last two years when you release…”

The average slob that watches CNN thinks that the Governor hasn’t released anthing.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM

touché

RizzyG on July 17, 2012 at 7:45 PM

I meant to highlight this, too: “[The Obama campaign] can’t talk about the economy, so they have to make personal attacks against a good and decent man.”

-FIFM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 17, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Romney should just say:

Speaking of taxes, I’ll happily release all my tax returns the day after Obama tells the truth, for once, about Obamacare’s raising of taxes on the middle class, which he swore up and down the country, over the past three years, he would never, ever do.”

profitsbeard on July 17, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Davidk, I wish Romney would start fighting back.
But it looks like Deja Vu McCain all over again.
The nail in the coffin, he’ll choose a real sleeper for the VP slot.

Belle on July 17, 2012 at 7:51 PM

What if there is nothing embarrassing in the returns, and Obama makes a big stink over releasing them only to find everything squeaky clean?

topdog on July 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

What if??? Of COURSE there is nothing in those returns, this is all just “Shiney Objects” the Obama campaign is trying to use to get attention away from him. This is standard tactics for him, Mitt DOES however need to put his big boy pants on (not for the reason the DNC gave though) and NOT release any more returns and start hitting back hard!

Koa on July 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Let’s talk about documents that have been released by Obama…

July 17, 2012
EXHAUSTIVE INQUIRY LEADS TO NEW INFORMATION
SHERIFF’S INVESTIGATORS:
“PRESIDENT’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD” (Warning-PDF)

ITguy on July 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Yep. The penciled-in ’9′s are very interesting. Good work being done there, and also on the topic of Hawaii being a huge national security loophole big enough for a Kennedy to drive through.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2012 at 7:56 PM

According to Yahoo this is What Romeny said in full regarding the off-shore accounts

“The so-called offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands, for instance, is an account established by a U.S. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in U.S. enterprises and not be subject to taxes outside of their own jurisdiction. So in many instances, the investments in something of that nature are brought back into the United States,” Romney said.

He added: “The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe. Sometimes a foreign entity is formed to allow foreign investors to invest in the United States, which may well be the case with the entities that Democrats are describing as foreign accounts.”

Much different than how it was presented here

tbrickert on July 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

July 17, 2012
EXHAUSTIVE INQUIRY LEADS TO NEW INFORMATION
SHERIFF’S INVESTIGATORS:
“PRESIDENT’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD”

ITguy on July 17, 2012 at 7:33 PM

That explains why Hussein has unleashed his deranged mexican on Sherrif Arpio
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/07/15/george-lopez-sheriff-arpaio
and on Romney
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/07/15/george-lopez-mitt-romney-f-king-latino-and-he-wont-admit-it

burrata on July 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM

What if there is nothing embarrassing in the returns, and Obama makes a big stink over releasing them only to find everything squeaky clean?

topdog on July 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

There’s ALWAYS going to be something that’s enough for Axleshaft’s liars to go after. Maybe one of the companies that Governor Romney invested in fired a transsexual when she refused to shave off her beard. Maybe he (oh the horrors) used a legal tax exemption, which to the proggies is a ‘loophole’ to reduce his taxes. Maybe one of the companies the Governor invested in had a toxic waste spill ten years later.

In that much information, they will find something to pump, and their allies in the old media will go right along with it and own the news cycle for a month.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Davidk, I wish Romney would start fighting back.
But it looks like Deja Vu McCain all over again.
The nail in the coffin, he’ll choose a real sleeper for the VP slot.

Belle on July 17, 2012 at 7:51 PM

My fears,too.

davidk on July 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I say Mitt continues to resist releasing his tax returns just to goad Obama. Goad Obama into ginning himself up into some foaming mouth frenzy to include DWS appearances juxtaposed with Axeldouche whining about conspiracies. Bend Obama into a pretzel. Make him spend his “billion dollars”. Make this thing go until August.

Then appoint your VP, release your tax returns (nothing to hide anyway), and crush this filthy marxist and his party out of existence for at least the next decade.

Romney is not stupid, but Obama is.

Key West Reader on July 17, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Davidk, I wish Romney would start fighting back.
But it looks like Deja Vu McCain all over again.
The nail in the coffin, he’ll choose a real sleeper for the VP slot.

Belle on July 17, 2012 at 7:51 PM

My fears,too.

davidk on July 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM

You should see his speech today

http://www.therightscoop.com/soon-watch-romney-live-in-irwin-pennsylvania/

tbrickert on July 17, 2012 at 8:03 PM

What if there is nothing embarrassing in the returns, and Obama makes a big stink over releasing them only to find everything squeaky clean?

topdog on July 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

What if??? Of COURSE there is nothing in those returns, this is all just “Shiney Objects” the Obama campaign is trying to use to get attention away from him. This is standard tactics for him, Mitt DOES however need to put his big boy pants on (not for the reason the DNC gave though) and NOT release any more returns and start hitting back hard!

Koa on July 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Of course, there’s something in those returns. Let’s not pretend that Romeny is suddenly going ‘rogue’ from the conservative establishment. Romeny is as establishment as any member of the GOP. It’s a simple calculation of loss vs gain- there’s something disturbing in those returns and the only thing unclear is whether the contents of those returns would be more disturbing to mainstream voters or his own base.

bayam on July 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Much different than how it was presented here

tbrickert on July 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Way too long a statement. The campaign should have known it would be clipped and misquoted.

How about?

“The Cayman Island account was established by a U.S. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in the U.S.”

…with maybe a very brief phrase to define his action.

Again, the campaign should know this.

INC on July 17, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Good on Mitt.

Another tempest in a teapot that will pass.

BUT it is time to keep hitting on Fast N Furious, Taxmageddon, etc.,

ProfShadow on July 17, 2012 at 8:10 PM

The idea that releasing his returns would gain Romney respite from the left is, euphemistically speaking, unrealistic. For instance, in reporting the executive’s outburst, ABC titled the story: “Did Obama Say, ‘If You’ve Got a Business, You Didn’t Build That’?”

We’re dealing with people to whom facts aren’t an insurmountable obstacle. Trusting them shouldn’t be an option.

wolfsDad on July 17, 2012 at 8:10 PM

I don’t think for a minute that there’s anything wrong in the returns, but this is a PR war. The Dems have been playing it the same way aided and abetted by the media, and Romney should never have become mired in it.

INC on July 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM

According to Yahoo this is What Romeny said in full regarding the off-shore accounts

“The so-called offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands, for instance, is an account established by a U.S. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in U.S. enterprises and not be subject to taxes outside of their own jurisdiction. So in many instances, the investments in something of that nature are brought back into the United States,” Romney said.

He added: “The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe. Sometimes a foreign entity is formed to allow foreign investors to invest in the United States, which may well be the case with the entities that Democrats are describing as foreign accounts.”

Much different than how it was presented here

tbrickert on July 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Obama has investments in companies that ship jobs overseas

davidk on July 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM

bayam on July 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

OF COURSE you are just speculating & have no facts to back it up.

By that token, I speculate that seeing how Team Obama is willfully lying by calling Romney a “felon” on SEC documents that they *know* were required to be filed because Romney still *owned* his share in Bain (aka Bain VI) — and the MSM letting him get away with it — that Romney measured the profit v. loss of not releasing them & letting Obama howl impotently about it OR release them & let Obama lie & distort some more, demand more, etc.

Given that (1) the IRS has vetted those tax returns we are talking about and (2) Romney himself said the later in his interviews, I’m going with that one for my spec.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 17, 2012 at 7:41 PM

You’re welcome.

And please, take my advice — don’t ever take anything caustic says at face value — seriously, if he tells you the sky is blue, go outside & check. :-)

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/EY_Study_Long-run_macroeconomic_impact_of_increasing_tax_rates_on_high_income_taxpayers_in_2013__2012_07_16_FINAL.pdf

Ernst Young, a leading independent accounting firm, estimated Barry’s tax policy will lead to the loss of over 700,000 jobs.

bayview on July 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Of course, there’s something in those returns. Let’s not pretend that Romeny is suddenly going ‘rogue’ from the conservative establishment. Romeny is as establishment as any member of the GOP. It’s a simple calculation of loss vs gain- there’s something disturbing in those returns and the only thing unclear is whether the contents of those returns would be more disturbing to mainstream voters or his own base.

bayam on July 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Watching you idiots desperately froth over it is far more fun!

Chuck Schick on July 17, 2012 at 8:35 PM

As another lukewarm “he’s the only one we got” Romney supporter, my fear is, although I don’t think Romney is lying about his time at Bain, he may have very well listed Bain as an employer on his tax returns for tax and other purposes after he had already left. Although in a sane world, I don’t believe it to be a big political gamble NOT releasing the tax returns, with the radical leftist infiltration which we see in every level of bureaucracy in our government today, there’s a high level of likelihood that someone from the IRS will leak this information before the election. Of course, whoever will have leaked the info will lose their job and get a slap on the wrist, only to be picked up by some lefty thinktank at double his/her previous salary, the Obama campaign and their political lapdogs, the Media, will proclaim from the rooftops that Romney was “lying” the whole time, and y’all, me and Romney will be left explaining it to all the independent imbeciles who cite sports statistics like scripture but couldn’t tell you within five points what the unemployment rate is… Dann wird’s spannend… :-/

Glenn Jericho on July 17, 2012 at 8:36 PM

There’s ALWAYS going to be something that’s enough for Axleshaft’s liars to go after. Maybe one of the companies that Governor Romney invested in fired a transsexual when she refused to shave off her beard. Maybe he (oh the horrors) used a legal tax exemption, which to the proggies is a ‘loophole’ to reduce his taxes. Maybe one of the companies the Governor invested in had a toxic waste spill ten years later.

In that much information, they will find something to pump, and their allies in the old media will go right along with it and own the news cycle for a month.

slickwillie2001 on July 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM

THIS! Remember when they attacked some average Joe guy in one of Romney’s videos — he had some arrest record or something?

And please, for the love of all that is good & holy, people, stop relying on what the MSM *tells* you Romney said — if you don’t listen to the actual, whole speech or interview, assume it didn’t happen the way they say it did, or else you get this:

This was a foolish, arrogant-sounding thing to say:

Asked by the interviewer why he didn’t get rid of the off-shore tax accounts that have also become the subject of Obama campaign ads, Romney declined to offer a detailed explanation. He said only, “The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe.”

He should have prepared a one sentence answer that didn’t sound insulting.

INC on July 17, 2012 at 7:43 PM

When the reality is this:

According to Yahoo this is What Romeny said in full regarding the off-shore accounts

“The so-called offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands, for instance, is an account established by a U.S. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in U.S. enterprises and not be subject to taxes outside of their own jurisdiction. So in many instances, the investments in something of that nature are brought back into the United States,” Romney said.

He added: “The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe. Sometimes a foreign entity is formed to allow foreign investors to invest in the United States, which may well be the case with the entities that Democrats are describing as foreign accounts.”

Much different than how it was presented here

tbrickert on July 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

The MSM will scream & cry about Obama being taken out of context, even when he isn’t (Romney clearly said in his PA speech today that “we do need roads & fireman & teachers, but you know what? We pay for those with taxes! The government doesn’t just give them to us and we say ‘Oh, thank you government!’” And the MSM is running around defending Obama & saying Romney took him out of context). And they will never, ever complain when Obama not only takes Romney out of context, they will help him do it & they will cover for him when he flat out lies about Romney (as the “felon” b.s. has shown us).

This is what we are up against.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:37 PM

here’s a high level of likelihood that someone from the IRS will leak this information before the election.

Glenn Jericho on July 17, 2012 at 8:36 PM

If that happens, they better get ready for the pitchforks in DC. And I bet I’m not alone.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:40 PM

I originally thought Erin Burnett was right; he had massive offshore tax dodges which makes his wealth much higher than we think it is.

But now I tend to believe he has made donations that will infuriate us on the right. Barry needs something to suppress the vote, and all I can think is they’ve heard about groups Romney has supported while at Bain, but have no proof.

budfox on July 17, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Fact: if Mitt Romney had absolutely nothing that his campaign considers damaging or embarrassing in his tax returns, they would have been released months ago.

I dare anyone to argue that this isn’t the case. You will lose that argument.

Armin Tamzarian on July 17, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Fact: If Obama had absolutely nothing that he considers damning of his Presidency, he would not have claimed Executive Privilege on the Fast and Furious documents.

I dare you to argue that isn’t the case. You will lose that argument.

Night Owl on July 17, 2012 at 8:46 PM

or maybe just a “certificate” of live tax returns ?

Would that suffice for you and your OWS pals ?

FlaMurph on July 17, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Maybe a note from his accountant would satisfy them, like Obama’s doctors note in lieu of medical reports.

Night Owl on July 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Romney is not stupid, but Obama is.

Key West Reader on July 17, 2012 at 8:02 PM

And they will never, ever complain when Obama not only takes Romney out of context, they will help him do it & they will cover for him when he flat out lies about Romney (as the “felon” b.s. has shown us).

This is what we are up against.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Yes, and yes.

Mitt Romney is much like his father. Romney is not stupid. Romney is not ignorant. Nor is he arrogant. Underestimate him and his ability to plan ahead at your own peril. Obama is playing checkers. Romney is playing chess.

Yoop on July 17, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Mitt should say:

I will release all my tax returns when Obama gives Congress
all the Fast N’ Furious documents they are demanding.

redguy on July 17, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Fact: If Obama had absolutely nothing that he considers damning of his Presidency, he would not have claimed Executive Privilege on the Fast and Furious documents.

I dare you to argue that isn’t the case. You will lose that argument.

Night Owl on July 17, 2012 at 8:46 PM

And that fact has approximately f**king nothing to do with Romney’s continued hiding of his tax records. Obama being a hypocrite doesn’t excuse it.

MadisonConservative on July 17, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Fact: if Mitt Romney had absolutely nothing that his campaign considers damaging or embarrassing in his tax returns, they would have been released months ago.

I dare anyone to argue that this isn’t the case. You will lose that argument.

Armin Tamzarian on July 17, 2012 at 5:11 PM

And if there wasn’t something in BO’s education records or his medical records he would make them public as well.

Voter from WA State on July 17, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Mitt is hiding something… and it’s hard to see how this issue will just disappear as long as conservative journalists and analysts continue to press him to follow established precedent.

If Mitt’s only secret is how much he’s earned, there’s no good reason to hide those returns. Not many independents will care about high income earned during the Bain year… it’s only to be expected in private equity.

bayam on July 17, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Fact: if Mitt Romney had absolutely nothing that his campaign considers damaging or embarrassing in his tax returns, they would have been released months ago.

I dare anyone to argue that this isn’t the case. You will lose that argument.

Armin Tamzarian on July 17, 2012 at 5:11 PM

And if there wasn’t something in BO’s education records or his medical records he would make them public as well.

Voter from WA State on July 17, 2012 at 8:59 PM

“Our guy is only slightly less shifty than the other one!!!” isn’t a winning slogan.

ddrintn on July 17, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Neither Romney no Obama should be calling on each other to release their private files unless required by law.Who cares about Obama’s grades? He obviously didn’t learn anything. (If u didn’t know, I think Romney got perfect scores on his SAT’s and was an all A student in college and graduate school, graduating from Harvard with a combined JD-MBA.) 2 years is enough for income tax returns. Besides we all know Romney’s a rich guy. Someone else said earlier on another thread that Romney should just ask why Obama is so interested in seeing how he spends his private money. It’s none of his business. But is all of our business to see how public money is spent and what the public papers say…like what tax money was sent overseas to fund manufacturing in Europe or China and what about Fast and Furious???

gracie on July 17, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:37 PM

I already saw that and adapted my comment here at 8:09PM:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/17/romney-digs-in-i-will-not-be-releasing-more-tax-returns/comment-page-5/#comment-6034988

INC on July 17, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Why you didn’t respond to that one instead of the earlier one is beyond me. I’ll repeat it here:

Way too long a statement. The campaign should have known it would be clipped and misquoted.

How about?

“The Cayman Island account was established by a U.S. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in the U.S.”

…with maybe a very brief phrase to define his action.

Again, the campaign should know this.

INC on July 17, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Neither Romney no Obama should be calling on each other to release their private files unless required by law.Who cares about Obama’s grades?

gracie on July 17, 2012 at 9:25 PM

I honestly don’t care about either but it’s funny watching some of the same people who’ve been hammering at Obama over his secretiveness suddenly defending Romney’s.

ddrintn on July 17, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Good! We know he’s rich, we know he has Swiss and Cayman bank accounts. He’s still the better man in the race.

Kissmygrits on July 17, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Late to the game, how many years of Obama’s tax returns been released?

Cindy Munford on July 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Fact: if Mitt Romney had absolutely nothing that his campaign considers damaging or embarrassing in his tax returns, they would have been released months ago.

I dare anyone to argue that this isn’t the case. You will lose that argument.

Armin Tamzarian

First of all, learn the difference between a fact and an opinion.
Secondly, you are making an inference and a judgement, attributing motives for behavior. Those, my friend, are opinions.

onlineanalyst on July 17, 2012 at 9:39 PM

…continue to press him to follow established precedent.

bayam on July 17, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Details please, with proof.

Yoop on July 17, 2012 at 9:39 PM

I guess that Hillary!!! never got her claws on those.

onlineanalyst on July 17, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I honestly don’t care…

ddrintn on July 17, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Yeh you do. Liars use the word” honestly” in the manner you did.

You’re consistent.

CW on July 17, 2012 at 9:58 PM

continue to press him to follow established precedent.
bayam on July 17, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Details please, with proof.
Yoop on July 17, 2012 at 9:39 PM

rjl1999 on July 17, 2012 at 10:04 PM

continue to press him to follow established precedent.
bayam on July 17, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Details please, with proof.
Yoop on July 17, 2012 at 9:39 PM

http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns/
rjl1999 on July 17, 2012 at 10:04 PM

rjl1999 on July 17, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Obama made a lot of people look stupid when he finally did release his birth certificate. Could this be a Romney ploy? What if there is nothing embarrassing in the returns, and Obama makes a big stink over releasing them only to find everything squeaky clean?

topdog on July 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

In case you missed it, everything is not “squeaky clean” with the fraudulent “Birth Certificate” that Obama released, and the people who look stupid are those who ignore the evidence that an official law enforcement investigation released today.

July 17, 2012
EXHAUSTIVE INQUIRY LEADS TO NEW INFORMATION
SHERIFF’S INVESTIGATORS:

“PRESIDENT’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD”

ITguy on July 17, 2012 at 10:11 PM

The solution is simple: Barry Obama, you release your college documents, in their entirety, and I will release my tax forms for as far back as your Alinskyite muck-rakers want.

Problem solved.

minnesoter on July 17, 2012 at 10:23 PM

continue to press him to follow established precedent.
bayam on July 17, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Details please, with proof.
Yoop on July 17, 2012 at 9:39 PM

http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns/
rjl1999 on July 17, 2012 at 10:04 PM

rjl1999 on July 17, 2012 at 10:05 PM

So the “precedence” lies somewhere between 0 and 12. Gotcha ya…

Yoop on July 17, 2012 at 10:30 PM

I already saw that and adapted my comment here at 8:09PM:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/17/romney-digs-in-i-will-not-be-releasing-more-tax-returns/comment-page-5/#comment-6034988

INC on July 17, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Sorry, INC — comments were posting too fast to keep up & then I was away from computer for a while (I do actually have a life) — didn’t mean to cause you to think I was ignoring you.

Still, my initial comment wasn’t meant to imply *you* did something wrong — it was meant to show how full of it the MSM is & why they can’t be trusted.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 10:31 PM

You’re welcome.

And please, take my advice — don’t ever take anything caustic says at face value — seriously, if he tells you the sky is blue, go outside & check. :-)

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Thanks for the sage advice! The truth is, I usually link-check even when a link comes from someone I trust. This time, I wasn’t very focused when I saw what casuist wrote, and I ended up reacting before I stopped I think enough – it’s like I have PTSD about McCain’s dark side! :)

I’m very glad Mitt is making it clear that he won’t indulge the desperate, pathetic muckrakers like passive betas are wont to do. I don’t see the people attacking him for his refusal to offer his returns being any different than those who support random police searches on the basis that, ‘If you’re not a criminal who has something to hide, why would you care – what are you so afraid of?’.

Obviously, these people are rather clueless about the manipulative political nature of what’s going on here, aren’t they? :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 17, 2012 at 11:04 PM

I stopped I to think enough

-FIFM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 17, 2012 at 11:06 PM

In case you missed it, everything is not “squeaky clean” with the fraudulent “Birth Certificate” that Obama released, and the people who look stupid are those who ignore the evidence that an official law enforcement investigation released today.

ITguy on July 17, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Do you remember the days when HA’s own AP used to care about impossibly funky fonts on supposedly legitimate documents? I will tell you that I sure do! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 17, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Good for you Mitt! I’m sick and tired of all this envy! When obama releases everything – passport, grades, who paid for his college, was he a foreign student? etc., etc., then the Gov can think about it!
BTW, I’m not in the 1%!
They don’t owe me a thing!

Bambi on July 17, 2012 at 11:16 PM

here’s a high level of likelihood that someone from the IRS will leak this information before the election.

Glenn Jericho on July 17, 2012 at 8:36 PM

If that happens, they better get ready for the pitchforks in DC. And I bet I’m not alone.

Dark Star on July 17, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Oh please.

You know for a fact that obama has had those tax returns since about January 2009. You also know that he has a penchant for releasing otherwise unreleasable documentation when it helps him politically. So you know he already knows what’s in them. And if there were truly anything damaging we would already know what it is.

All that being said, you also know that he will make up crap no matter what’s in there. And now he gets to say “see this is what he was hiding” when they get illegally released (and there’s no there there).

Finally, you know you won’t do one damn thing when that happens. And neither will anyone else.

Oh, and you don’t get to define who is and isn’t a conservative. Fact is, your joy at having Romney as a republican nominee disqualifies you outright.

runawayyyy on July 18, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Romney needs to make a deal with the marxist coke snorting bisexual. I will release all of my tax records when you release all educational records, reveal why you and the sasquatch both SURRENDERED YOUR LAW LICENSES, and WTF are you using a CONNECTICUT Social Security Number for??? Release that application. Do all that, I will release all of the tax returns and you can call me rich white devil or whatever trance inducing chant you come up for the uneducated zombies who actually support you still.

allahallahoxenfree on July 18, 2012 at 8:21 AM

ITguy on July 17, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Yeah…the evidence presented was convincing but reporters were to busy attacking the messenger.

The growing list of hidden records:

Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released (if one exists)
Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released (lawyers’ fees greater than $4,000,000 — a REAL birth certificate is $15)
Certification of Live Birth (short form) — Released — Counterfeit
Certificate of Live Birth (long form) — Released — Counterfeit
Amended Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
INS air travel records August 1-7, 1961 — Missing

Obama/Dunham divorce — Released but incomplete (by independent investigators)
Obama Sr. INS file — Released — both U. Hawaii and Harvard wanted him expelled for “womanizing”

Barry Dunham/Obama Kindergarten records — Records lost (this is a big one — read two frames)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released

Anna Soetoro/Dunham passport records — Released, but key years are missing
Barry Dunham/Obama/Soetoro passport records — Missing
Soetoro adoption records — Not released

Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
Besuki School record — Released (by independent investigators)

Punahou School application — Missing
Punahou School records — Not released
Noelani 3rd Grade records — Not released

Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)

Selective Service Registration — Released (by independent investigators) — Under suspicion

Social Security Numbers — Released (by independent investigators) — Under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released

Financial Aid Records — Not released
Passport Records — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None

Illinois Bar Records — Not released
Baptism certificate — None (never baptized)
Medical records — Not released — nor is the source of this nasty scar
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost — really!
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
Rashid Khalidi video — Hidden by the L.A. Times

White House Visitors list — Incomplete to the point of worthless

The Blagojevich Interview — judge denies access to the FBI report
The Osama bin Laden photos — sealed by Obama

The Fast & Furious documents — Executive Privilege invoked

The Illinois State Archives told Judicial Watch that they never received any request from Senator Obama to archive any records in his possession. In 2007, Obama told Tim Russert that his records were “not kept.”

workingclass artist on July 18, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Demand full college records
Demand records from the surrender of both Obamas Law licenses
Demand records relative to his inexplciable Connecticut Social Security Number
Just the tip of the iceberg

What is it with so called conservatives being such cowards about this obviously pathologically secretive marxist? Get past the race card fear for God’s sake. Can we stop talking about race already? Do whats right for once in your lives you cowards.

allahallahoxenfree on July 18, 2012 at 8:26 AM

So Mitt is again projecting 0bama? Well, that will certainly excite the base … NOT!

The GOP: Taking failure out of the jaws of victory one issue at a time.

TYS!

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 8:41 AM

allahallahoxenfree on July 18, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Sheriff Arpaio found that the state of Hawaii in contravention of Federal Immigration/Naturalization laws upheld in the rest of the states has been issuing BC’s for the foreign born for over 30 years through their ow state statute and requested additional funds from DC to handle the overload.

DC knew about it and did nothing to stop it and that has as much to do with this as anything…Many of these new BC’s were issued to Japanese born citizens and the state law was amended in the 80′s to allow any adult as well born anywhere else to get a Hawaiian birth certificate if they had residential status in Hawaii for a year and paid taxes.

If I were a legal immigrant who followed the law, paid taxes, had to wait sometimes up to 13 years for US citizenship and spent a lot of hard earned money (as happens in many border states) I’d be livid.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/drudge-goes-there-sheriff-joe-obamas-birth-record-definitely-fraudule

workingclass artist on July 18, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Row or stfu.

tom daschle concerned on July 17, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Tom, considering that I AM, and have been one of the ‘rowers’ for over a decade, I believe I have the moral right to complain every time Mitt, or one of the liberal GOP Insiders throw out another anchor.

Maybe you like being sunk but I DO NOT!!!

BTW, TYS!

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM

There’s a cadre of conservatives urging him to just bite the bullet and get it over with, too.

Conservatives? Never heard of a conservative who thinks anyone should be forced to publicly disclose all of his tax returns.

Maybe Romney could play Let’s Make a Deal with Obama. Something like this. He could offer Obama to releases his tax returns for a single year of his choice if Obama releases his college transcripts.

If Obama thinks there is something shady in there he should be able point to the year he thinks it occurred in, right? Otherwise he is just fishing.

farsighted on July 18, 2012 at 8:45 AM

He should not release anything. The Obommunists have a problem with what people do with their money AFTER they pay taxes on it. If Obama can get away with out releasing all the docs everyone on the right have been asking for for 5 years, why should Mitt Romney release anything?? Oh, I get it… To please the MSM so the will LIKE MITT ROMNEY!!! Yeah, riiiigh…t

blogforce one on July 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM

IF Romney had a clue he would respond with facts like these:

The last time the Democrats passed a budget, Sarah Palin was governor of Alaska.
The last time Dems passed a budget, Tiger Woods was happily married.
When the Senate Dems last passed a budget, Elena Kagan had never served as a judge.
The last time Dems passed a budget, Barack Obama wasn’t a proud Nobel Peace Prize recipient.

Would someone please give Willard those clues!

DannoJyd on July 18, 2012 at 9:22 AM

If not releasing something means you are hiding something really bad college transcripts, medical records, and Fast and Furious must be really awful or does it go both ways?

If we’re just playing guessing games then we can assume Obama had all F’s, is a 70 year old man, and actually shot Brian Terry.

Wagthatdog on July 18, 2012 at 9:31 AM

In the words of Bill & Ted, Excellent! It servers no purpose except to give the Dems/media more non-stories to pick at and distract from the real issues, which of course is what they are desperate for.

crazywater on July 18, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Here is an idea: if he wants to release some of those tax returns Friday night is the best time to do it. We all know why…

ktrelski on July 18, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Romney admits that over the last two years, he’s paid less than 15 percent in taxes

“Promise them anything; just get their votes!” Romney could campaign for a tax ceiling BELOW 15% for everyone.

I don’t care how much Romney earned. It is expected that those with wealth utilize every tax advantage legally available.

If America has a problem with the tax code, then FIX IT.

Of all things DESERVING a comprehensive reform, it’s a complete simplification of the US TAX CODE.

Damn. AGAIN, the GOP is so far behind the ball. The problem is in the Republican Party Leadership, failing the American citizens AGAIN. How many decades, YEARS, have the Republican Congressional Leadership wasted in failing to coordinate the universal tax reform bill complete with the unified party support?

And of course, the so-called ‘tax expert’ Michele Bachmann is not willing to invest her political career in actually restructuring the US Tax Code for the well being of American citizens. She’d rather gain citizenship in a foreign country, eventually to discard her US citizenship after relocating to avoid being double taxed. So much for the self proclaimed House Tea Party Caucus leader, and failed candidate for POTUS. She still has the opportunity to lend her expertise and support, without subscribing only to her own bills.

The problem remains; the Republican Leadership are in power for themselves and refuse to coalesce on fundamental constitutional grounding to ensure Liberty in America. So long as they enjoy their status quo, they have no reason to worry about THEIR children. Proof’s in the pudding. By their works shall ye know them. Mark Steyn allows that Paul Ryan’s plan is too little, too late. Even Ryan can’t get the Republican caucus to coordinate the minimal effort to kick the can one more time down the road for another 12 years.

If minimal efforts prove as difficult to achieve as maximum results, go for the big win.

What tax payer would vote against being taxed BELOW 15% ?!

Stick to the Constitution and remove all the self-indulgent bureaucracies that parasitically destroy Constitutional Governance.

Cut back “Government” – cut back spending – cut taxes.

maverick muse on July 18, 2012 at 9:33 AM

We can’t find a single student Obama taught, anybody he went to high school or college with, and any members of the Choom gang but Romney is hiding something?

20/20 can’t interview any of these people to get an insight into our President? Really?

Wagthatdog on July 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM

He paid less than normal tax rate due to INVESTING IN AMERICA, why won’t that angle work? Should we penalize people that do that?

Democrats know people aren’t smart enough to know the difference between capital gains and normal income or that capital gains were already taxed once when they were income.

Without ignorance Democrats would never win anything.

Wagthatdog on July 18, 2012 at 9:38 AM

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