The lasting damage of this economy on young workers

posted at 3:31 pm on July 15, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

There’s a lot of talk about the difference between the published BLS unemployment rates and the actual ones, as well as some demographic subsets such as minorities and women. But another slice of the not-very-tasty unemployment pie is the long term impact that the economy is having on the youngest workers. Tiffany Hsu at the LA Times takes a look at who may really be hurting the worst and for the longest.

Had the recession never happened, there would now be an additional 2.7 million jobs for young workers, according to a report this week.

Instead, there’s a Chicago-sized hole in the employment market for people between 16 and 24 years old, according to nonprofit, nonpartisan advocacy group Young Invincibles.

And there’s a good chance that gap will never close, to potentially devastating effect, according to the “No End in Sight?” report.

“The scary thing is that the recession may never end for young people,” said Rory O’Sullivan, policy director for the group, in a statement.

The current unemployment rate for young folk is at 16.5% — double the national 8.2% rate. More than two in 10 Latino youth are jobless, while three in 10 black youth are unemployed, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

There seem to be two primary factors at play here, one immediate and obvious, the other more long term and under the covers. For the immediate future, as long as the economy continues to stagnate, young people are not only facing a job market with fewer openings in general, but they are – more so than ever before – competing with older, more experienced workers with extensive resumes. And these older pros are frequently desperate for work and willing to take a job for less money than they ever would before, rather than holding out for higher paying senior positions.

This puts the squeeze on those just entering the work force unless they are coming out of school with some breaking new technology specialization. But even if the economy gets back to something approaching normal ten years down the road, it may be too late for today’s kids.

If they are forced to take lower skill, lower paying jobs today – just to earn something – then that’s all a future employer will see on their resume when more jobs come open. If they face a decade of no significant income with mounting bills, today’s kids may also find themselves buried under a mountain of debt and other burdens which they will never fully remove. If they reach their thirties having never landed a position in the field they trained for, they could well be stuck in “dead end” jobs for their entire career.

This economy is punishing Americans across the spectrum, but the long term damage to young workers may be worse than anything we’re seeing today. A disturbing trend indeed.


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…what young workers?

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:34 PM

…the older workers are taking all of the part time jobs…2 or 3 of them!

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM

…MSM…but!…we’re going down the right path…just give it a term or two!

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM

…college loans to be forgiven a week before the election

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Didn’t 80% plus of these people go for “hope and change”?
What goes around comes around.-

graywolf on July 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

If they reach their thirties having never landed a position in the field they trained for, they could well be stuck in “dead end” jobs for their entire career.

Hey, they could sign up for food stamps. And they’ll have healthcare.

So what are they complaining about? The libs got’em covered.

BobMbx on July 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Actual unemployment rates

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM

…everybody must be working (:->)

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM

I hear the IRS is hiring.

pambi on July 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM

If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The president of the USA is either a Fool or a maliciously deceptive thug.

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Yep, resumes are forever.

slickwillie2001 on July 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Hope ‘n Change — 2008

Fear and Desperation — 2012

PimpnMadam™

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM

…college loans to be forgiven a week before the election

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Well, not finalized. Just float the prospect before the election.

taternuggets on July 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM

…not to worry!…JugEars will tell the young workers “a story”…and work the next year “to get the policy right”!

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:49 PM

…college loans to be forgiven a week before the election

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Hey, if Obama thinks he has the power to tell DHS to stop enforcing federal immigration law and to gut the federal work rules in the Welfare Reform law of 1996, it is not outside the realm of possibility that he would issue an EO that says the US government will stop collection efforts on student loans.

Kim Priestap on July 15, 2012 at 3:49 PM

…college loans to be forgiven a week before the election

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Not a chance. The backlash from a move like that would end any hope Obama has of reelection.

Doughboy on July 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Forget about the Obama Depression, Gunwalkergate, National security leaks, Unsubstantial debt and ObamaTaxes out the Ying yang…..

Bain Capital ! Bain Capital ! Bain Capital ! Bain Capital ! Bain Capital !

/Obamamedia

Chip on July 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM

“Lasting damage”?

Are people from the Northeast perpetually pessimistic? I would say, yes, having lived there myself, but IMHO that’s because they’ve lived under the shadow of Mordor: liberal policies of government and liberal attitudes to life: church, home and family.

I also think that it’s not necessarily the older pros. My read is that people from about 30–45 are in the sweet spot of new job hiring at the moment.

INC on July 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Eh. Screw ‘em. Older workers who have lost their jobs will have a much harder time finding a job.

Blake on July 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM

If you’re under the age of 35 and you vote for Obama in 2012, you might as well just punch yourself in the face 20 times, then pound your head into a brick wall twice for good measure.

Red Cloud on July 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Chip on July 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Well Perry did warn you all about Bain. Instead you all attacked him as being anti capitalist. He doesn’t sound so anti capitalist now does he?

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM

A good helping of Obama Hope and Change is worth the three to four years of wages lost forever. And being on a lower rung than you should be for the rest of your life is just the cherry on top of the Obama Sundae.

That said, both can be assuaged if the government just gets out of the way, get’s off the back, quits putting hurtles in the way of individual initiative. We could be moving into a booming economy in two to three years if Romney and a Republican Congress really wanted to allow one. But it will never happen if the Democratic Party has anything to say about it.

Dusty on July 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Ur Messiah tanked the economy not the GOP u fool! OWN IT! The recession ended in Jun 09 with no help from Zero. When we get Zero out next Jan and get his foot off everybody’s throat then we can get back to creating jobs instead of watching this idiot destroy the economy.

Talon29 on July 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Chip on July 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Well Perry did warn you all about Bain. Instead you all attacked him as being anti capitalist. He doesn’t sound so anti capitalist now does he?

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM

He also said it would toughen Romney up…so I’ll hope for that

workingclass artist on July 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM

But unbridled illegal immigration and the movement of company operations overseas are also factors that affect wages.

I’m thinking that the Socialists plan to have some kind of “base wage” where everybody making a certain annual income or below are guaranteed X number of dollars a month and whatever you make on top (even part time at minimum wage) of that is gravy for you to buy nonessential goods and services. This would obviously force those in the higher tiers to pay more in taxes to support this base income for those below. That would satisfy their need to subdue and essentially destroy the middle class, while at the same time appeasing the masses.

Unemployment would be extremely low and they could constantly tout this as evidence of their successful ideology.

If you’re outside the base subsistence class, you still have more than those below so won’t complain to much (classic Marxist idea of playing one class against the other, or the Orwellian idea of an Inner Party, Outer Party, and Prole class system).

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM

The lasting damage of this economy on young workers

Caveat suffragator.

Resist We Much on July 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Obama intended to destroy the middle class. So he could re-build it into a permanent welfare state.

Key West Reader on July 15, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Yet another undocumented segment of the population are all the young people using college as a bomb shelter from the current economy. I suppose once these “professional students” start reaching their forties, the media might start having to admit there’s a problem. Or maybe not.

logis on July 15, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Talon29 on July 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM

How is getting rid of Obama going to happen if your guy is yet to lead in any meaningful poll after 3.5 yrs of GOP induced depression?

You and I know Obama would be up by 25 points if he was the challenger. Face it, your richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it. Heck you unwashed “conservative” masses tried fighting against the anointment of this retroactively retired dunce. Too bad it didn’t work out too well.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Looks like these young workers have something to do…

So yung uns here in America hitch a ride over to NorKor and see if you can get yourself trained for the next Dead Kim Mourning brigade.

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZsVP2WoE9E

*what the Progressives which Americans were like.

PappyD61 on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

I actually think that people in their fifties like my husband and myself will fare a lot worse than younger workers. We still have children at home. Age discrimination is also working against people our age. We both have been passed over for younger people in our job searches. We have had to spend savings that was not supposed to be touched until our kids entered college. Both my husband and I are currently unemployed. We are in the worst financial shape of our 25 year marriage. We will never be able to make up for what we have lost the last 3 years. And assuming that we do eventually find other jobs, we have less than 15 years to go before we reach age 65. And we have a disabled child to take care of who will likely never be able to support herself.

sherrimae on July 15, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

…yes moron!…that’s why the Senate has passed so many budgets and job bills!…how many did they send over to the House?… or to the guy whose ear’s you’re grasping?

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Correction:

Forget about the Obama Depression, Gunwalkergate, National security leaks, Unsustainable debt, ObamaTaxes out the Ying yang…..

Bain Capital ! Bain Capital ! Bain Capital ! Bain Capital ! Bain Capital !

/Obamamedia

Chip on July 15, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Face it, your richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Best description of the Obamas I’ve heard in awhile. It fits them to a tee, especially in light of their treating the White House as if it were the Tuilleries.

TKindred on July 15, 2012 at 4:33 PM

…college loans to be forgiven a week before the election

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Not a chance. The backlash from a move like that would end any hope Obama has of reelection.

Doughboy on July 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM

And yet the ‘backlash from a move like that’ hasn’t stopped him from doing a significant number of unethical, unconstitutional, economy and country-ruining things *yet*, now has it?

Midas on July 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

If Obama’s goal has not been to tank the economy, what would he have done differently? You act like you and your ilk are crusaders for the middle class, yet every policy, law, etc. your side comes up with sends us into further decline. I have come to the conclusion that you aren’t just people who have different ideas, you are all nothing but a bunch of raving lunatics who should never be allowed to gain power again.

Night Owl on July 15, 2012 at 4:37 PM

“You idiots would all have jobs if only you could understand my message. I can’t dumb it down any further for you fools.”

-TFGRP

Bishop on July 15, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Face it, your richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Meant only to piss people off. Why do you say this at all, just leave.

Bishop on July 15, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012

…by the way UpyerEARSsideways …how did you vote for the Obamateurism for the week ?
Change your diaper… and tell us!
(*hint*…there’s no Banal Bain choice)

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 4:46 PM

…not to worry!…JugEars will tell the young workers “a story”…and work the next year “to get the policy right”!

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Hope ‘n Change — 2008

Fear and Desperation — 2012

PimpnMadam™

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM

But fear is a great motivator.
The other is hope…real hope that is, not wishing.
Too bad the youth vote, the black vote, et al really works against that portion of the electorate the hardest.

Amendment X on July 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM

This is an unreported story and it truly is a disaster. I know the average HotGas reader is advanced in age, and I poke fun it with referenced to the Spanish-American War etc, but man… People I know between 20 and 26 are in for a world of hurt once they realize they actually have to work for a living.

Most either have 100k+ student loan debt or their parents are paying. Many refuse to look for work because they think they will pop right into a six figure salary within weeks of graduation. Many do not want cars because campus is a city until itself and one is not needed. So many work at bars and restaurants because it is all they have ever known.

You folks who are 40+ think back to your teen/early adult years. How many had no desire for a car? Isn’t that insane?

If it weren’t for their parents footing the bill they would be destitute. No real skills after 6+ years of college, huge debts, putting off families, cars, homes, and on and on. Implosion for those who didn’t benefit from quotas. Almost as if it were designed that way.

antisense on July 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Face it, your richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Best description of the Obamas I’ve heard in awhile. It fits them to a tee, especially in light of their treating the White House as if it were the Tuilleries.

TKindred on July 15, 2012 at 4:33 PM

+1,000

Amendment X on July 15, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

The Republican-controlled House has generated almost 30 job creating bills in the past 2 1/2 years.

Your Democrat-controlled Senate has refused to even call a vote for all of them.

F-

Face it, your richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Oh, please, Kid. Ann Romney came from a wealthy family too. In fact, the evil corporation her father co-founded in 1946 is still in business and is bigger than ever.

Just curious, were you old enough to vote for the Democrat gigolo, worth many more times than Romney thanks to marrying his wealth, who your Party ran for President in 2004?

EPIC FAIL-

Del Dolemonte on July 15, 2012 at 4:49 PM

This is exactly what my 22 and 23 year old sons (who got their B.A.’s within the last year) are seeing. There is nothing out there. And remember, if they are making very limited salaries, their federal income tax, Social Security tax, and Medicare tax payments are much lower than they would be otherwise, and they will be for their entire careers, which will accelerate the collapse of Social Security and Medicare.

talkingpoints on July 15, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Are you better off now than you were two four years ago?

Absolutely.

crr6 on May 30, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 15, 2012 at 4:51 PM

sherrimae on July 15, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Being out of work for someone you age can be very scary. I pray you find something soon. Don’t worry everything will be alright. :). Just keep the hope alive, continue praying and looking and trust me you will find something. :)

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM

This is an unreported story and it truly is a disaster. I know the average HotGas reader is advanced in age, and I poke fun it with referenced to the Spanish-American War etc, but man… People I know between 20 and 26 are in for a world of hurt once they realize they actually have to work for a living.

Most either have 100k+ student loan debt or their parents are paying. Many refuse to look for work because they think they will pop right into a six figure salary within weeks of graduation. Many do not want cars because campus is a city until itself and one is not needed. So many work at bars and restaurants because it is all they have ever known.

You folks who are 40+ think back to your teen/early adult years. How many had no desire for a car? Isn’t that insane?

If it weren’t for their parents footing the bill they would be destitute. No real skills after 6+ years of college, huge debts, putting off families, cars, homes, and on and on. Implosion for those who didn’t benefit from quotas. Almost as if it were designed that way.

antisense on July 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM

I faced that after graduate school…There was a glut of graduates and no gap for hiring.

Adaptation becomes a vital survival skill.

The economy will get better if we get rid of the current batch of lunatics

workingclass artist on July 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Face it, your my richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

…yep! JugEars roped Mooch in like a calf at a rodeo!

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Your brain is non-existent. In its stead is a note which sais “brain” on it, or straw.

Also, Obama and his beard are utterly out of touch with America, and never will be in touch with anyone/anything, except their raw power and the lavish life which comes with it.

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 5:03 PM

sais = says

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 5:04 PM

See, this is what I’m afraid of.

I’m currently 21 yrs old and have held the same job at a quick service restaurant for the last 4 years. I plan to graduate college next May, however, and fear my current job will be the only thing available to me afterwards. Yet, my peers (many of whom are unemployed) still INSIST on supporting Obama.

Maybe they’d have no problem working fast food at the age of 30, but I have bigger plans.

laurakbarr on July 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Face it, your richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

more tragic though is that your azz is very much in touch with your rudimentary Cromagnon brain, to the point that you can’t tell anymore which is which, reason why your ‘thoughts’ are indistinguishable from your farts…

jimver on July 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Mostly unemployed for the last 2 years. Several runs at possible employment end up going nowhere. Need to find something soon. I have blown through most of my savings just trying to live and support a family. I am resigned to working into my 70′s or possibly just dying at a desk because I no longer believe I can retire at all.

Pelosi delende est on July 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 15, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Your lessons are platinum! Thanks for the many smiles.

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

How many jobs were created when Obama was president, Pelosi had the House hammer and Reid was the same mortuary master he is now in the Senate?

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 5:11 PM

This economy Obama fellow is punishing Americans across the spectrum, but the long term damage to young workers may be worse than anything we’re seeing today. A disturbing trend indeed.

FIXORD!

jukin3 on July 15, 2012 at 5:13 PM

How is getting rid of Obama going to happen if your guy is yet to lead in any meaningful poll after 3.5 yrs of GOP induced depression?

I’m sorry…Who introduced TARP? Which Party controls the Senate, that hasnt passed a budget in over 1000 days?

C’mon, be a shill, but be better than that.

For the record, the spending by the GOP wasn’t high enough as it was before Obama took office. Just because Obama *triple* down on the number doesn’t make it more palatable…

…Or you don’t agree?

You and I know Obama would be up by 25 points if he was the challenger. Face it, your richie rich candidate along with his golddigger wife are both out of touch with regular Americans. You know it and everyone here knows it. Heck you unwashed “conservative” masses tried fighting against the anointment of this retroactively retired dunce. Too bad it didn’t work out too well.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Romney = Retroactively retired dunce, earned millions over the years in private industry.

Obama = “Constitutional Law Professor” and Editor of Harvard Law Review, yet no published papers attributed to him, and prior running for office in Chicago, never worked a private job.

However, his net worth increased after being elected to office in Illinois, and writing 2 autobiographies of himself.

In SPITE of his being biracial and in a country that has racial issues, still managed to be smart enough to be elected President, surround himself with people just as smart as he is, have a majority of his Party in power, and yet the economy is twice as bad as it was 4 years ago?

No thanks. I might not *like* the other guy, but I’ll vote for the other guy just the same.

BlaxPac on July 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Would that be the same “young” who voted for Obama?

Hmmmm……..elections DO have consequences. But have the “young” learned anything?

GarandFan on July 15, 2012 at 5:16 PM

jimver on July 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM

(:->)
…thank gawd I didn’t have any beverage anywhere near my computer just now…cuz I still spewed!

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Color Coded chart graphing US-Employment to Population ratio showing the various combinations of Presidents, Congresses, and Senates for each year from 1970.

islestar on July 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM

But have the “young” learned anything?

GarandFan on July 15, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Maybe they’ll shoot themselves in the head, again.

Schadenfreude on July 15, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Being out of work for someone you age can be very scary. I pray you find something soon. Don’t worry everything will be alright. :). Just keep the hope alive, continue praying and looking and trust me you will find something. :)

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM

you know what’s scarier though, living on your momma’s pension and in her basements at your age, well, unless you are actually homeless in upper east side :-),then I have some compassion for you, it must suck in this weather and with all that stank that NY emanates in summer time :( …

jimver on July 15, 2012 at 5:23 PM

stench, not ‘stank’ that is…

jimver on July 15, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Look to Europe, once again, to see what the youth in this country face and what their possible reaction to it might be. Unemployment levels for youth in Europe is far worse than here and now they are taking to the streets in anger. Shades of the late 20s and early 30s in Germany? Looking for a messiah who will fix this problem with grandiose promises and and a violent and hidden agenda?

The rot of an entitlement society in Europe today (just like the failure of communism was revealed in the late 80s) has been exposed. Our path must be reversed or we will relive recent history.

jb34461 on July 15, 2012 at 5:26 PM

The rot of an entitlement society in Europe today (just like the failure of communism was revealed in the late 80s) has been exposed. Our path must be reversed or we will relive recent history.

jb34461 on July 15, 2012 at 5:26 PM

that!

jimver on July 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM

If they reach their thirties having never landed a position in the field they trained for, they could well be stuck in “dead end” jobs for their entire career.

And find themselves living at home with their parents (or worse, their in-laws).

OccamsRazor on July 15, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Being out of work for someone you age can be very scary. I pray you find something soon. Don’t worry everything will be alright. :). Just keep the hope alive, continue praying and looking and trust me you will find something. :)

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM

That insincere spiel almost made me throw up. The only hope we have is to get that moronic communist and his hideous yet manly wife out of office, get rid of as many liberals from Congress as possible, and never let you people run anything bigger than a government approved lemonade stand ever again. (Although that will be a step in the right direction for Obama, since it will be his first practical work experience.)

Night Owl on July 15, 2012 at 5:39 PM

We are looking squarely at the most predictable economic crisis in our nation’s history and our governing elite fiddle.

In addition to the governing elite, the educational, business and labor elite hold us in complete contempt. We, the great unwashed, are morons who are incapable of managing our lives and our businesses. Who are “we”? The Tea Partiers and the Hot Gasians (except a few deranged trolls) who demand change, who are patriots, who are deeply concerned about the future of our country and fear for the future of our families unless the course is reversed.

There are more of us than them and they will learn another lesson, the hard way, in a very short time. As our elite like to say, head to the polls and vote. And often!

jb34461 on July 15, 2012 at 5:40 PM

And here I’ve been thinking that the Republicans were inept but thanks to uppereastside’s generous insights I now know that the Republicans engineered a crappy economy staring with George Bush deliberately so that they would end up losing their majority in the House first, then losing the presidency in 2008 along with the majority in the Senate. After that they had to kick that economy killing strategy into high gear by letting Harry Reid get away with passing Obamacare even though they almost screwed that up by getting a Republican senator elected in Massachusetts. Even though you would have thought they’d have learned their lesson after that they went ahead and ran a bunch of democrats out of the House in 2010 and ended up getting the majority back! What were they thinking? But thankfully, Harry Reid was there again to salvage their evil plan by refusing to act on any legislation that the house passed and furthermore by not passing a budget for more than 1200 days (even though I think that’s something the senate is supposed to do). But clearly the most brilliant aspect of their scheme was their super secret collusion with the democrats to help them elect the most incompetent, inexperienced candidate possible so that he would just sit there telling stories and playing golf while the Republicans, even though in the minority, could keep running the show behind the scenes and really grind the economy into the dust. At least I think that’s the gist of uppereastside’s “progressive” logic, right?

natasha333 on July 15, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I might not *like* the other guy, but I’ll vote for the other guy just the same.

BlaxPac on July 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM

I was over on another forum yesterday and came across this post. It was so good I saved it.

Let’s be clear.

If you are not supporting Romney for President – no matter your agreement or disagreement with any of his stands – you are supporting Barack Obama for re-election.

To be undecided is to be decided. It’s now at that point. If you have the ability to vote for Romney and you choose to not do so – you are supporting the reelection of Barack Obama.

If you are a citizen of this nation and you want the right to complain about it and are concerned about it remaining the beacon of liberty and freedom, then get off your ass and support Mitt Romney. The choice is the clearest in my 40 years of voting in Presidential elections. The current occupant is the hands down worst, most incompetent executive and I can match any concern and beat any other list. At least Carter’s damage was limited. The Obama/Holder disregard for the Constitutional Separation of Powers must come to an end.

Well played, and a message that more than a few folks here on Hot Gas should heed.

Del Dolemonte on July 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I have 7 adult children and they all voted GOP. One is still at home because his 2-day a week job won’t let him get his own place.

I blame the youth vote and the black and Hispanic vote, and the Hope-and-Change vote for this mess, and I hope the ones who were charmed by all the Hope-and-Change rhetoric for the resulting disaster and at least 50% of it for my son’s inability to land a better job.

If they voted for the screw up in the Oval Office, I hope they are stuck in dead end jobs for the rest of their miserable lives. They got themselves into this mess, and dragged the rest of us along, kicking and screaming, for the ride. I hope they enjoy it.

hachiban on July 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM

I had a dream last night that Brietbart was not dead. I wish it were true :o(

Key West Reader on July 15, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Night Owl on July 15, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Try drinking some cold water, it might help help bring your blood pressure back to normal levels. Then again liberals lived through a second GWB presidency so you guys will be fine.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 6:02 PM

If they voted for the screw up in the Oval Office, I hope they are stuck in dead end jobs for the rest of their miserable lives. They got themselves into this mess, and dragged the rest of us along, kicking and screaming, for the ride. I hope they enjoy it.

hachiban on July 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM

I can just imagine the conversations between parents with adult children living at home talking about who they’re going to vote for in 2012. If I had an O-bot, I’d lock him/her in a cage on election day. This is ridiculous; even my adult nieces (24 & 27) just moved back home… just when my brother is about to retire. Ugh.

As for the kids in high school? They literally hate the O. They see their parents suffering.

Key West Reader on July 15, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Try drinking some cold water, it might help help bring your blood pressure back to normal levels. Then again liberals lived through a second GWB presidency so you guys will be fine.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 6:02 PM

This was written for you.. An ole Key West Fave

Key West Reader on July 15, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Try drinking some cold water, it might help help bring your blood pressure back to normal levels. Then again liberals lived through a second GWB presidency so you guys will be fine.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 6:02 PM

My blood pressure is just fine. Of course liberals lived through the Bush presidency, he was an actual president. The sad excuse for a leader we (I mean you, since he is only president to those who kiss his ass) have right now is a disaster. I can only imagine how long it’s going to take for us to fix everything he’s f*cked up, and he deserves to go to hell for what he’s put this country through. I think for the next twenty or thirty years, all we will have to do to win elections is point to the record of this a$$hole and ask, “Do you want to go through that again?” Move to France if you think socialism is so great, or go all out and move to North Korea. We won’t miss you.

Night Owl on July 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM

This was written for you.. An ole Key West Fave

Key West Reader on July 15, 2012 at 6:07 PM

LOL!- That is a perfect song for all leftists!

Night Owl on July 15, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Half of the age group mentioned couldn’t vote for Obama, and I have a 24 year old who didn’t vote for Obama.

The entitlement culture is destroying the futures of these and those younger.

We have to get a grip on our crazy spending in this country.

jazzuscounty on July 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Maybe if the GOP whose goal is to tank the economy for political gain were to retroactively retire, there would be jobs for these youngings.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

McDonalds is hiring… Obamajobs, or learning how to make a large Mocha Frappe for me…

“COUNT IT!”

Looking forward to NO-vember when the ‘community organizer-in-chief’ gets the word he needs to relocate back to Chicago…

Note to FLOTUS: have them save some space in that fancy-Dan private your daughters will be attending in January… I’m just sayin’…

Khun Joe on July 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Then again liberals lived through a second GWB presidency so you guys will be fine.

Uppereastside on July 15, 2012 at 6:02 PM

To hear O’Barry tell it, you’re living through a third GWB presidency. He think he’s convinced himself of that, too.

de rigueur on July 15, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Filthy little beggars. I hope you have learned a lesson and changed your ways.

Bmore on July 15, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Not all youth voted for Obama, ya know. Some of us were smart.

thebrokenrattle on July 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Not all youth voted for Obama, ya know. Some of us were smart.

thebrokenrattle on July 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Then you were also smart enough not to become a filthy little beggar. Congrats!

Bmore on July 15, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Not all youth voted for Obama, ya know. Some of us were smart.

thebrokenrattle on July 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Most young people couldn’t make it to the polls because they couldn’t be arsed to get there.

antisense on July 15, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Then you were also smart enough not to become a filthy little beggar. Congrats!

Bmore on July 15, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Thanks!!!!!!…I think :P

thebrokenrattle on July 15, 2012 at 7:36 PM

To the youth: Elections Have Consequences

These consequences can be short and/or long term. You can choose short term NOBAMA or you can choose long term another 4 years of the Loser In Chief.

The most devastating circumstance to a career is having a resume without your specific skill set experience noted. These kids think it is bad now, just wait, when they become a frustrated 40 year-old in debt a parent of a teenager, renting (a house or apt) and in a job they hate. I wonder if they’ll think back on the day they pulled the lever for Obama in 08 and realize…..

Elections have consequences.

uhangtight on July 15, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Thanks!!!!!!…I think :P

thebrokenrattle on July 15, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Definite compliment to you. Nice to know you have your_____together. ; )

Bmore on July 15, 2012 at 8:02 PM

…college loans to be forgiven a week before the election

KOOLAID2 on July 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Not a chance. The backlash from a move like that would end any hope Obama has of reelection.

Doughboy on July 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Especially the grads who turned down more expensive schools because of the price tag

Laura in Maryland on July 15, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Eh. Screw ‘em. Older workers who have lost their jobs will have a much harder time finding a job.

Blake on July 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Depends on the age range we are talking about. The point still stands that people with work experience willing to be underemployed in a salary position are a lot better off than recent graduates with limited experience trying to get their first salary job.

ArkyDore on July 15, 2012 at 10:31 PM

I love all the dumb comments that make it sound like Obama got elected because of the youth turnout. Obama got elected because the white middle class voted for Obama. There aren’t enough kids to change the vote significantly.

Dear old people,

Your entitlements are killing this country and you haven’t done anything about it for the last 20 years. Don’t start acting high and might because you just recently thought it was time for a change. It was your generation after all that pushed for McCain.

Sincerely,
Young Person

ArkyDore on July 15, 2012 at 10:37 PM

And these older pros are frequently desperate for work and willing to take a job for less money than they ever would before, rather than holding out for higher paying senior positions.

Yep, that describes my situation perfectly. Got laid off last August, found a temp job in October, and sent out resumes online for months and months, basically saying that although I had almost 20 years experience, I would be content with a junior level position because I have two young children. Fortunately for me, it worked. I have lots of younger friends who got laid off from the temp job (we’re lawyers) and haven’t found anything.

JoAnn1965 on July 15, 2012 at 11:08 PM

JoAnn1965 on July 15, 2012 at 11:08 PM

…hopefully by next year there will be some real hope and change for you…my wife has been running into your problem and age discrimination…though she could run circles around kids 10 or 20 years younger.

KOOLAID2 on July 16, 2012 at 12:30 AM

I said in 2008 that if we elected Zero, as a nation we would get exactly what we deserved. Welcome to spreadin’ the wealth around, kids. BTW, ‘Hope and Change’ meant ‘hope you got some change in your pockets’. If you voted for Obama and now feel betrayed, just consider the consequences a stupid tax. If you didn’t vote for Obama and feel betrayed, you’re right and you may consider the consequences a penalty.

ghostwalker1 on July 16, 2012 at 1:24 AM

I long for the “good old days” when this was called “Funemployment” by the “DNC/Obama-Media”.

RADIOONE on July 16, 2012 at 6:39 AM

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