Why the latest Bain story is a loser on all sides

posted at 5:01 pm on July 14, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

When the news first “broke” this week in Boston, raising the question of when Mitt Romney actually left Bain Capital, I immediately had something of a sinking feeling which I shared with friends. It seemed to me that this was going to be an ugly distraction which was going to leave a lot of people on both sides with egg on their faces, and all over nothing of much consequence. Now, a couple of days later, it shows no signs of abating as Obama doubles down on his claims even as Mitt offers a “spirited rebuttal” against the charges.

The oddest part of all this is that even the media – for once – seems to be defending Romney’s side of the story. And yet it doesn’t go away. The reason for this, as I surmised on the first day, is that the competing camps seeking to either pump up or deflate the story are each faced with one uncomfortable statement they must defend.

Those siding with the President must lay claim to the following:

  • A person who is working full time on another project, is on a leave of absence, and has turned over all day to day management of operations to a group of former associates is the personal architect of whatever strategies are put in place by that firm.

It’s the most common defense we’ve seen and there’s some logic in there which is pretty hard to argue with when you put it that way. But before you get too happy about it, I also noted that Mitt’s defenders were going to have to go out in the public square and defend this doozy:

  • The President, CEO and sole shareholder of record at a large corporation bears no responsibility for the actions of that company.

You’ll notice that there’s a key difference in wording between these two memes which you’ll now see all over the web on a daily basis.Republicans want to talk about the day to day reality of the events at Bain. Romney was gone and mostly likely had very little idea what was going on. He was very busy elsewhere, and as long as the firm appeared to continue to run well and make money, why would he care?

But Democrats want to focus on the word responsibility. If your name is on the record as being in charge, then the ultimate responsibility falls on your shoulders. If you’re the captain of the ship and it hits an iceberg, it’s your fault even if you are asleep in your cabin at the time. And like it or not, that’s a fairly easy message to sell in sixty second sound bites.

So, could Mitt have handled this any better? Or has he pretty much said all there is to say? Doug Mataconis seems to think he could be doing better.

The story that Romney told in last night’s television interviews was not essentially different from what the campaign has been saying for most of this week ever since these questions started being asked — that Mitt Romney ceased all involvement in the day-to-day affairs of Bain and its related entity in February 1999 when he left Boston to go run the Salt Lake City Olympics, a job he continued at for the next three years. As far as how and why his name continued to end up on SEC documents for these entities, Romney’s explanation seems to boil down to the fact that, even while he was in Utah, he remained the owner of, or a partner in, the various Bain entities. After Romney was finished with the Olympics, Romney and his partners wound down there relationship and went their separate ways.

That may all be true, and from everything I’ve been reading on the topic the suggestion that some on the left have made that there was something illegal going on here is largely baseless. The problem is that it is rather apparent that the Romney campaign isn’t doing a very good job of explaining all of this to the public. To the average person, and indeed to me, it doesn’t make sense that one would give up active control of a business and yet remain as the responsible party in SEC filings for the next three years, nor does it make sense that someone who isn’t actively working for a company anymore would receive a $100,000 per year salary nonetheless. There may very well be explanations for all of this, even if they are a bit difficult to explain easily, but so far the Romney campaign hasn’t done a good job at all of that, and neither did Romney in his interviews last night. As a result they’re keeping this story in the news cycle far longer than it ought to be, to Romney’s ultimate detriment.

I see what you’re saying, Doug, but let’s face it… that doesn’t make a very good bumper sticker.


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…one side!

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2012 at 5:02 PM

…I thought JugEars had a law degree?

The President, CEO and sole shareholder of record at a large corporation bears no responsibility for the actions of that company

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Republicans want to talk about the day to day reality of the events at Bain. Romney was gone and mostly likely had very little idea what was going on.

And that plays to the second meme immediately: it’s disgraceful to not have a clue as to what was going on. And the outrage that a CEO would not know what is going on in his own company is going to further play into outrage involving issues like this.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM

… nor does it make sense that someone who isn’t actively working for a company anymore would receive a $100,000 per year salary nonetheless.

….guess you haven’t seen some of the pensions people have pulled down as public employee’s!

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2012 at 5:09 PM

When the news first “broke” this week in Boston, raising the question of when Mitt Romney actually left Bain Capital, I immediately had something of a sinking feeling which I shared with friends.

When did Senator Obama actually leave the US Senate in order to work on his presidential campaign????????

When did Senator Obama actually f*cking show up to the US Senate on time and do something resembling work?

When did Obama work at a law firm and do something besides jack around, piss off his colleagues, and carry some of the load????

this is quite an interesting line of attack–this bain capital-when did Romney leave circlejerk–because it merely allows the asking of certainly valid questions about the weak sauce candidate of the Circle D gang.

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:09 PM

i think obama is jealous that romney is a full fledged heterosexual.

GhoulAid on July 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM

How do you explain the intricacies of the private equity business and unwinding your position from one? This attack is aimed at gullible, low-information voters, and I don’t know that getting into the weeds on this would be at all helpful. The Romney camp has done all it can to point out the lies…hell, even Obama-supporting Dems at Bain have said they’re lies.

Does it have legs? I don’t know. I’d prefer Romney say what he’s said about it but hit back at Obama harder.

changer1701 on July 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM

But Democrats want to focus on the word responsibility. If your name is on the record as being in charge, then the ultimate responsibility falls on your shoulders.

And unfortunately for Romney, that plays to their advantage when we consider Presidential elections. When Obama’s administration engages in an operation like Fast & Furious, we, and the American public more broadly, does not think that Obama is exempt from criticism or from being held accountable simply because he may have been “unaware.” It’s his administration, it’s his political appointees, and it’s thus his responsibility.

Avoiding the issue of responsibility by focusing on who was in charge when Mitt’s name is on the forms as CEO and sole stockholder is going to be an Achilles heel for Mitt.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Look, Mitt et al. Drew M has some advice for you over at AoS. Don’t defend this…..redirect to the economy and kick them in the nuts.

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:12 PM

when did Obama leave the presidency in order to allow the DOJ to run rogue guns across the border to kill US agents and Mexicans??????

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:13 PM

If Romney was saving the US Olympics and running Bain then he is one hell of guy. 0bama can’t even chew gum and read at the same time.

jukin3 on July 14, 2012 at 5:13 PM

This is the dumbest, most lame-brained of Obama’s distractions.

faraway on July 14, 2012 at 5:14 PM

If Romney was saving the US Olympics and running Bain then he is one hell of guy. 0bama can’t even chew gum and read at the same time.

jukin3 on July 14, 2012 at 5:13 PM

So true! And he was in two places at once! He’s Superman!

Rational Thought on July 14, 2012 at 5:15 PM

So can we see what Hussein did as a Constitutional Law professor ?
Or as a lawyer ?
Since he was sold to Americans as a lawyer and Constitutional Law professor ?

burrata on July 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Obama is just jealous because he had to leave a good paying job in order to go put on an Olympics whereas Obama just showed up in Norway and got smacked down by them.

comparisons.

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:17 PM

This is the dumbest, most lame-brained of Obama’s distractions.

faraway on July 14, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Yes but that won’t stop the ABRs and concern trolls from hand wringing.

wargamer6 on July 14, 2012 at 5:17 PM

er. “he”= Romney

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

I’m waiting for a reported to offer up this question. If the CEo of record is responsible for all transactions of a company, why does Obama constantly blame Bush?

Zaggs on July 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Obama is just jealous because he Romney had to leave a good paying job in order to go put on an Olympics whereas Obama just showed up in Norway and got smacked down by them.

comparisons.

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:17 PM

fifm

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

I’m waiting for a reported to offer up this question. If the CEo of record is responsible for all transactions of a company, why does Obama constantly blame Bush?

Zaggs on July 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

good question. If Bush is all that is wrong during the Obama presidency then Romney is all that is wrong with Bain capital after he left.

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:20 PM

everyone understands they are trying to do to Romney what they did to Palin, keep coming out with stories that sound really bad, might even have a grain of truth or seem like they do, and keep hammering them regardless of the fact they have been dis-proven.

RonK on July 14, 2012 at 5:21 PM

I think voters will really rally to the GOP side once they see Mitt going on TV and demanding an apology.

Get em, Mitt!!

e-pirate on July 14, 2012 at 5:22 PM

It’s the chronically stupid and uber-left that think any of this means anything. The uber-left are never gonna vote Romney. The chronically stupid are gonna vote for whomever The Candy Man is (Free stuff!) – so they’re going Obama as well.
Pray that there are still more not-chronically-stupid folks out there than CSF’s.

Sugar Land on July 14, 2012 at 5:23 PM

The facts don’t matter, this is just a dog whistle to remind voters that Romney has more money than you.

pedestrian on July 14, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I’m waiting for a reported to offer up this question. If the CEo of record is responsible for all transactions of a company, why does Obama constantly blame Bush?

Zaggs on July 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

I keep waiting for Romney to say “If the Obama admin knew anything about business, they would know what these SEC filings mean”

faraway on July 14, 2012 at 5:27 PM

This is totally and completely 100% a non story. Will it gain traction? Of course it will. The dems will mention it over and over and over until the soundbites stick. All the walking dead will know is that Bain = bad and Romney = Bain. The Republican response will be pathetic as usual because they are so poor both strategically and tactically at the game of politics. Get used to it, this is how the entire campaign will play out and it’s only going to get worse.

Farenht451 on July 14, 2012 at 5:29 PM

The facts don’t matter, this is just a dog whistle to remind voters that Romney has more money than you.

pedestrian on July 14, 2012 at 5:25 PM

No. This is.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:30 PM

i’ll take Althouse on this

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/07/be-afraid-be-very-afraid.html

i think that Mataconis is a little too eager to blame the Rs…he should use his time fighting for something (preferably the R side)

Rs do have to fight back. the left is insidious..and they are fighting for their lives…for barry.care and a thousand other chits they have put in place for the hard left.

r keller on July 14, 2012 at 5:31 PM

So can we see what Hussein did as a Constitutional Law professor ?
Or as a lawyer ?
Since he was sold to Americans as a lawyer and Constitutional Law professor ?

burrata on July 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Lecturer … not professor. VERY big difference.

Although many misguided Obama fans tossed “professor” around as if were true.

fred5678 on July 14, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Romney should remind everyone that this was back in the good ol’ days when you could actually leave a job to go do another one. Unlike today that is……

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I’m waiting for a reported to offer up this question. If the CEo of record is responsible for all transactions of a company, why does Obama constantly blame Bush?

Zaggs on July 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

A reporter?

Why isn’t Romney asking that?

sharrukin on July 14, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Jazz, try to work in the photo of 0 smoking sometime, would ya?

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 5:34 PM

So can we see what Hussein did as a Constitutional Law professor ?
Or as a lawyer ?
Since he was sold to Americans as a lawyer and Constitutional Law professor ?

burrata on July 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM

It is presumptuous to think that Obama even has a law degree. I want proof.

I do not doubt that Michelle Robinson held a law degree, but I am curious as to why it was voluntarily forfeited.

Strange people.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2012 at 5:35 PM

OT but I heard a rumor. People wonder what will become of Joe Paterno’s statue at PSU. They have found middle ground. It will forever be adorned with a blindfold.

CW on July 14, 2012 at 5:35 PM

The best explanation that I’ve heard is not flattering to Romney, but has the ring of truth. He left Bain in 1999, and spent the next three years negotiating his severance package. THAT was his only role at Bain (between 1999 and 2002)–trying to get a better severance deal.

RBMN on July 14, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Republicans want to talk about the day to day reality of the events at Bain. Romney was gone and mostly likely had very little idea what was going on.

And that plays to the second meme immediately: it’s disgraceful to not have a clue as to what was going on. And the outrage that a CEO would not know what is going on in his own company is going to further play into outrage involving issues like this.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Stoic…this is idiotic! Just as a person who has investments…they are YOUR investments and YOU are the CEO of these investments YET you do not manage them yourself and do NOT generally know what is going on with them hour to hour and day to day. You hire brokers, managers, etc for this…

This is all a distraction and personally I think Romney should just move on now that he has come out and straightened it out. If Obama wants to keep bringing it up, which he will, that is fine. The American people will see through this as Obama has NOTHING else to run on…I mean he just “WON” freakin’ the ruling on Obamacare and yet they still do not want to bring this up and tote its merits (as there are none).

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM

I do not care. I am voting for Obama. He has flowers.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2012 at 5:31 PM

You can’t make this shite up….duude, ‘my EBT, my EBT’…what has become of this country, sad really..

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM

The best explanation that I’ve heard is not flattering to Romney, but has the ring of truth. He left Bain in 1999, and spent the next three years negotiating his severance package. THAT was his only role at Bain (between 1999 and 2002)–trying to get a better severance deal.

RBMN on July 14, 2012 at 5:41 PM

I hope you are being paid overtime.

On the heels of ObamaCare, I demand an answer to this.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM

can someone please tell me what Mitt was doing these past 4 years waiting to get to this point?WERE THERE MEETINGS OF SOME KIND ON HOW TO GO UP AGAINST OBAMA IF PER CHANCE MITTENS GOT HIS STUPID ASS THE NOMINATION??? DID THEY, I DUNNO, GO OVER SCENARIOS AS TO WHAT TO SAY IF OBAMA SAID HE RAN A LEMONADE STAND POORLY WHEN HE WAS SIX YEARS OLD??? JESUS H MOTHER#@!$%^ CHRIST AM I SICK OF THIS ALREADY. HIT THIS BASTARD WITH EVERYTHING YOU’VE GOT AND THEN SOME!!!!!!

GhoulAid on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM

There’s a lot of protesting that O is swift-boating Romney, that he is knowingly pushing outright lies, and so that O is absolutely horrible, a louse.

Problem: people could care less that O is a horrible lying campaigner; that is politics, they think.

And herein lies a lesson for Romney: you are not going to win any brownie points by being so lily pure that you won’t launch your own brutal attacks against O. Worse is if you only whine about O’s attacks, but don’t bring on your own dirty attacks.

Jump in, get getting dirty over with, so you can keep bringing on fresh barrages against O daily without worrying about your manicure getting ruffled. Some of the attacks will stick, some won’t.
Of note, I heard of a study which suggested that people, when told an untruth about someone, and then immediately afterwards told that it is untrue, often, amazingly, still believe the untruth (or still maintain a negative opinion of the person). That’s a reason why the Bain attacks could have an impact despite most everyone knowing that they are false. And most importantly for us, it points to the critical importance of us countering O’s attacks… with attacks. Mudslinging has been proven for decades running to work… to be decisive in winning a campaign. You can’t “win clean” like McCain wanted to do. It’s like “clean energy”… it’s not going to happen.

anotherJoe on July 14, 2012 at 5:45 PM

“you didn’t build that”

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 5:45 PM

But Democrats want to focus on the word responsibility. If your name is on the record as being in charge, then the ultimate responsibility falls on your shoulders

One would think they would run away from this argument as Fast and Furious as they could.

arik1969 on July 14, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Michelle Obama kicks humans to the curb

ObamaCare.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Jerky got you all wee-weed up?

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM

The oddest part of all this is that even the media – for once – seems to be defending Romney’s side of the story. And yet it doesn’t go away.
=========

Freagg’n NeverEnding Story.I’m thinking,were all in Gotham
City,and its Bain attacks every day,all week long,er month(s)
long!!!

(snark).

canopfor on July 14, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I mean he just “WON” freakin’ the ruling on Obamacare and yet they still do not want to bring this up and tote its merits (as there are none).

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM

he’s still mulling whether to call it a tax or a penalty :-)…we witnessed the first Freudian slip yesterday, he said that there would be no ‘tax hikes’ on those who already have/pay for health insurance :-)…so he’s getting where we want him to be, admit the largest tax increase on middle class in recent history…now, I want to see him run on that, see how well he tells that ‘story’ :-)…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 5:50 PM

When did President Obama stop snorting cocaine?

vityas on July 14, 2012 at 5:50 PM

I thought it was taking credit for Jobs created past 1999-2002 that gave teamO the opening, combined w/ a lack of quick response at the beginning, and doing a little political gymnastics in the primary to inflate his job creation record. Thats why it has legs that at its a Republican and not a Libs giving guns to Drug cartels and giving bean bags to our agents.

boogaleesnots on July 14, 2012 at 5:50 PM

The facts don’t matter, this is just a dog whistle to remind voters that Romney has more money than you.

pedestrian on July 14, 2012 at 5:25 PM
No. This is.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Also another MSM hit job…How many times has Obama played golf, vacationed, campaigned, etc since he was crowne…errrr….elected? We all know the media is going to be against Romney NO MATTER what he does or says!

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Barack Obama’s Dad

Key West Reader on July 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM

JESUS H MOTHER#@!$%^ CHRIST AM I SICK OF THIS ALREADY. HIT THIS BASTARD WITH EVERYTHING YOU’VE GOT AND THEN SOME!!!!!!

GhoulAid on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM

I agree on that fully, and if you see my last post, it doesn’t even matter a huge amount whether the attack is true. But there are plenty of ugly truths on Obama to bring to the fore, so get ur done!

anotherJoe on July 14, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Oops,Le Compronise!!

JULY 14, 2012
Florida wins access to federal citizenship database

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/florida-wins-access-federal-citizenship-database

canopfor on July 14, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Thats Compromise,not (Compronise!!)

canopfor on July 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM
Jerky got you all wee-weed up?

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM

hahaaha Actually I think that was gone by day two or three!

Romney will be fine and he just needs to keep on the offense. We also need to realize that 75% of the public is NOT even paying attention right now like us here at HA.

My wife and other brothers and sisters and their spouses are not even engaged per se on what is happening other than ocassionally following snippets on the news. They are ALL voting Romney though as I do know that.

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:54 PM

canopfor on July 14, 2012 at 5:52 PM

canopfor…I think I am going to start calling you “Linky” and I seriously mean that as a compliment! :o)

I think we all enjoy your quick links on items of interest. Thanks.

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:57 PM

No. This is.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:30 PM

yawn…I too am sitting in my garden, by the pool (don’t have a lake, daaann!!), coincidentally bare foot and with my ipad on my lap to complete yet another donation to Romney campaign…jee, I feel like am so out of touch :)…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 5:59 PM

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Yep ole 0 is done. Tour next Commander in Chief, Mitt Romney. Works for you, right?

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Barack Obama’s Dad

Key West Reader on July 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Key West…
My system out here blocked that site whatever it linked to BUT if it was a pic of Frank Marshall Davis that I have seen next to Obama the resemblance is striking as he looks more like him than he does Senior!

Why is the media not investigating this and the Choom Gang and the Conn SS card AND on and on and on…yet we find out Romney jumped on a kid FIFTY YEARS ago and cut his hair!! Oh, the HORROR!!

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Tour=Your.

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Yep ole 0 is done. Tour next Commander in Chief, Mitt Romney. Works for you, right?

You hope. But its way too early to say ole O is done. We’ve barely scratched the surface of summer. Its going to be long, hot and dirty with ole O and his syndicate.

hawkeye54 on July 14, 2012 at 6:03 PM

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Yep ole 0 is done. Tour next Commander in Chief, Mitt Romney. Works for you, right?

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Yeah, CinC Romney sounds excellent! He, like Bush, Reagan, etc, has a GREAT RESPECT for the military as well as you can see it in his speeches when talking to and about the military. Something that has ALWAYS been missing during the Clinton and Obama years.

This has not gone unnoticed by those in uniform…

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Why is the media not investigating this and the Choom Gang and the Conn SS card AND on and on and on…yet we find out Romney jumped on a kid FIFTY YEARS ago and cut his hair!! Oh, the HORROR!!

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

that’s actually quite legit question, since we all saw the pics with the ‘chooming gang’, now does anyone knows what are the HI laws as far as recreational drugs are concerned? I mean is/was ‘choomin’ legal?? then he was a potential felon, no? and a minor one at it :)…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Completely ignoring the benefits of “off-shoring”.
Confusing “outsourcing” with “off-shoring”.
Conflating “overseas expansion” with “off-shoring”.
Conflating “official position” with “active oversight”.
Making spurious (and ridiculously hypocritical) accusations of law breaking based on misunderstanding.

How is anybody taking this seriously?

Count to 10 on July 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM

‘does anyone know’ that is….

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM

hawkeye54 on July 14, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Nope, no hope, confidence. I love the heat. See ya in the streets. Next stop 8-3.

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:06 PM

So wait, you can be the CEO/President/Chairman of the Board for the company for 3 years and at the same time have absolutely positively no involvement with the company whatsoever in that interim period? Whatever happened to CEOs receiving high wages as a result of hard work?

Of course that’s entertaining the idea that his story wasn’t bull in the first place. He signed documents when they acquired those companies which were responsible for the outsourcing. Whether or not you care about what Bain did is immaterial, all that this is about is how Romney’s campaign has been lying about his involvement with the company post-1999 for the last few weeks and he was caught.

As for Hotair’s coverage, this is probably the best that can be expected, and credit to the staff for doing an honest write-up about the controversy even if it does have a lot of spin in it. Most partisan blogs wouldn’t even bother and for that you guys deserve a hat tip on this one.

Typhonsentra on July 14, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Then next question of this saga should be when will the SEC, DOJ etc. start a investigation on this charge. When will warrants for arrest for Mitt and all the key players at Bain, even the Democrats and open Obama supporters be issued.

If not they are part of the Bainers conspiracy that is older than Truthers but, not as old as the Birthers conspiracy that stated in 1961.

tjexcite on July 14, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I agree with others who say that Romney needs to ignore this from now on and go on the attack. This was ginned up by Obama and company.
So the news is Fast and Furious, tax/penalty, unemployment, deficit,…oh look…Romney at Bain and the Olympic uniforms are made in China.
All totally planned, “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing,” to quote someone;)
Personally I would pound on the welfare reform throw down and hey, aren’t we still in Afghanistan and isn’t Guantanamo still open, and isn’t unemployment still high, etc. Obama’s mouth made promises his actions aren’t keeping. There’s alot out there but Romney is letting Obama set the topic.

Deanna on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

You hope. But its way too early to say ole O is done. We’ve barely scratched the surface of summer. Its going to be long, hot and dirty with ole O and his syndicate.

hawkeye54 on July 14, 2012 at 6:03 PM

I agree…BUT I also read Karl Rove’s analysis in the WSJ and the other guy, Root, I think is his name, and they both come to the conclusion, which I agree with, that Obama just is not going to draw the same crowds as he did in 2008 AND EVERY freakin’ poll is weighted 8-12 points towards the Dems which we all know is unrealistic. This is deja vu ’79-’80 election with the MSM.

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Barack Obama’s Dad

Key West Reader on July 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM

This YouTube and the ones you posted earlier have led me to the conclusion that Mama Stanley slept with one or both Malcolm X and Frank Marshall Davis, communists both, and one of them actually fathered Obama, but certainly not the Kenyan named on his CGI birth certificate. My bet is on Malcolm X, however, due to the incredible resemblance and mannerisms.

His real birth certificate, the one the public hasn’t seen will have one of the two communists named as “Father”, hence why we haven’t seen it.

FYI, I had never believed, nor do I now, that Obama was born outside the USA, though perhaps not in Hawaii.

TXUS on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

“But Democrats want to focus on the word responsibility. If your name is on the record as being in charge, then the ultimate responsibility falls on your shoulders. “

No problem…

… The ecomony, ‘Fast and Furious’, joblessness, gas and food prices, etc., etc., etc!

Seven Percent Solution on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

So when did the campaign strategy, of the Obama campaign, become Goebbels strategy, “If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.”

When Romney says it’s beneath the office of the Presidency, he’s assuming he’s running against someone that cares about the office of the Presidency.

bflat879 on July 14, 2012 at 6:10 PM

But Democrats want to focus on the word responsibility. If your name is on the record as being in charge, then the ultimate responsibility falls on your shoulders. If you’re the captain of the ship and it hits an iceberg, it’s your fault even if you are asleep in your cabin at the time. And like it or not, that’s a fairly easy message to sell in sixty second sound bites.

Tell that to the man who is still blaming George Bush for the economy.

The problem is that it is rather apparent that the Romney campaign isn’t doing a very good job of explaining all of this to the public. To the average person, and indeed to me, it doesn’t make sense that one would give up active control of a business and yet remain as the responsible party in SEC filings for the next three years, nor does it make sense that someone who isn’t actively working for a company anymore would receive a $100,000 per year salary nonetheless.

I have got news for Doug, the media has gotten this so botched that nothing Romney says is going to make it simple

And most people do understand this concept, in fact a person could be in a nursing home and still get paid if they had controlling interest in the company. The whole point is that Romney left quickly and it takes time to divest someone of that kind of interest..but he was obviously somewhere else doing something else.

If Doug can not understand that, I am not sure how Romney can make it plainer.

BTW, I read that Democrats in the state of Mass tried to keep Romney from running as Governor by saying he was not a citizen of the state and did not live or work there..they claimed he had moved to Utah..now they are saying something else.

I am sure most people think all of this is just really stupid.

Terrye on July 14, 2012 at 6:12 PM

TXUS on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

to make the picture complete I’d venture that Rodney King was his bro…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Typhonsentra on July 14, 2012 at 6:06 PM

you must have missed the MSM actually interviewing current Bain CEO’s and CFO’s at Bain, two of which are Democrats, and they said Romney’s version is correct that he had NO DEALINGS with Bain since his departure in 1999. His sudden departure for the Olympics actually is what caused the “controversy” as they did not have time to write up the paperwork and straighten everything out in the manner they would have preferred though NO LAWS WERE EVER BROKEN…per these DEMS. :o)

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:13 PM

from another momma :-)…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:13 PM

The oddest part of all this is that even the media – for once – seems to be defending Romney’s side of the story. And yet it doesn’t go away.

Jazz, it won’t go away because the MSM, including HA, refuse to stop covering it. Because everybody wants to get the last opinion in, the story will live on…and on…and on…and so on.

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 6:16 PM

When Romney says it’s beneath the office of the Presidency, he’s assuming he’s running against someone that cares about the office of the Presidency.

bflat879 on July 14, 2012 at 6:10 PM

hahaha So true!!!

+1000

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Avoiding the issue of responsibility by focusing on who was in charge when Mitt’s name is on the forms as CEO and sole stockholder is going to be an Achilles heel for Mitt.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Oh come on…no one who runs a private equity firm can be held totally responsible for absolutely everything every single company ever does…especially when the man trying to hold him responsible makes such a point of avoiding responsibility himself.

Terrye on July 14, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Jazz, it won’t go away because the MSM, including HA, refuse to stop covering it. Because everybody wants to get the last opinion in, the story will live on…and on…and on…and so on.

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 6:16 PM

even Drudge kept that dang’ title ‘is it a crime’ since yesterday…I think he went to the beaches and forgot to change the main story…and btw, what’s up with the new B&W aesthetic at Drudge? I mean it’s nice and it looks classy and all, was just wondering what prompted the change…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Avoiding the issue of responsibility by focusing on who was in charge when Mitt’s name is on the forms as CEO and sole stockholder is going to be an Achilles heel for Mitt.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM

nonsense…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:21 PM

and btw, what’s up with the new B&W aesthetic at Drudge? I mean it’s nice and it looks classy and all, was just wondering what prompted the change…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Maybe Drudge is saying it is plain as black and white OR night and day who we should be voting for…

just FYI…this is NOT meant as anything racist before that is thrown out there by someone. :o)

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Since Romney is forced to argue with lunatics…I think he’s doing it pretty well.

He said he left the company to run the Olympics.

If Obama wants to lecture about responsibility and the buck stopping at the top…he can start with his Border Games & killing 300 Mexicans in Mexico and Two US Border Agents in the US

workingclass artist on July 14, 2012 at 6:22 PM

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Looking towards a black and white fall me thinks.

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Well, time to head to bed over here…

have a great Saturday night all!

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:23 PM

i think that Mataconis is a little too eager to blame the Rs…he should use his time fighting for something (preferably the R side)

Rs do have to fight back. the left is insidious..and they are fighting for their lives…for barry.care and a thousand other chits they have put in place for the hard left.

r keller on July 14, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Doug always blames the Rs..

Terrye on July 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Avoiding the issue of responsibility by focusing on who was in charge when Mitt’s name is on the forms as CEO and sole stockholder is going to be an Achilles heel for Mitt.

Stoic Patriot on July 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM

He should take responsibility for it. Then insist the same thing goes for Obama.

JimC on July 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Good Night g2825m, Sleep Easy.

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:25 PM

even Drudge kept that dang’ title ‘is it a crime’ since yesterday…I think he went to the beaches and forgot to change the main story…and btw, what’s up with the new B&W aesthetic at Drudge? I mean it’s nice and it looks classy and all, was just wondering what prompted the change…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:19 PM

I think Drudge meant that as a slap at Obama.

Terrye on July 14, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Speaking of Attacks,Team Blue has launched
a Political Exocet,at USS Mittens!!!(sarc)
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VIDEO
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July 14, 2012, 8:48
Obama Ad Continues Effort to Tie Romney to Outsourcing
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President Obama’s campaign continued on Saturday to prosecute its case against Mitt Romney for holding offshore accounts, releasing a new television ad

that mockingly shows Mr. Romney, the Republican candidate,

singing “America the Beautiful.”
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The president’s campaign has spent more than a week hammering Mr. Romney’s personal wealth and calling on him to disclose more information about his personal finances by releasing his tax returns.

The new ad — which the campaign said was running in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia — reminds viewers of those issues even as it shows a clip of Mr. Romney singing at a campaign event in Florida earlier this year.(More….)
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/obama-ad-features-a-singing-romney/?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto

canopfor on July 14, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Obama is just jealous because he had to leave a good paying job in order to go put on an Olympics whereas Obama just showed up in Norway and got smacked down by them.

comparisons.

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:17 PM

er. “he”= Romney

ted c on July 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Ted, you focused on the wrong claim. Obama got the peace prize in Norway, not a smack down.

Anywho, I wish your claim was true, because O really needs to get those arrogant jugears slapped around real hard.

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Good Night g2825m, Sleep Easy.

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Tasha Kor (Thank you)!

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:26 PM

This YouTube and the ones you posted earlier have led me to the conclusion that Mama Stanley slept with one or both Malcolm X and Frank Marshall Davis, communists both, and one of them actually fathered Obama, but certainly not the Kenyan named on his CGI birth certificate. My bet is on Malcolm X, however, due to the incredible resemblance and mannerisms.

His real birth certificate, the one the public hasn’t seen will have one of the two communists named as “Father”, hence why we haven’t seen it.

FYI, I had never believed, nor do I now, that Obama was born outside the USA, though perhaps not in Hawaii.

TXUS on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

The video was indeed shocking — the resemblance is amazing. But all I could think was what a dreadful psychological and emotional mess our president is: abandoned by his mother and two fathers, likely lying to the world about who his father is, the product of some kind of meaningless hook-up (or worse), “mentored” by a commie pedophile whom barack so much as said (in some college poetry) sexually abused him. You look into his eyes and they are just dead, the eyes of a permanently damaged and sick child, and the nation gets to be this sick man’s tragic playhouse. One does not survive a history like that intact. I have predicted all along that as soon as he leaves the White House, his wife will either file for divorce or they’ll live separate lives like the Clintons do. The marriage is such a sham – separate vacations, the daughters always looking so down and sad. Moochelle’s in it for the money. What a dreadful existence for those children, to be stuck there with this soulless, disturbed man whose life is just one enormous lie piled upon another, and a mother who played along so she could wear expensive shoes. Awful. I simply cannot wait until they are gone.

Rational Thought on July 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Maybe Drudge is saying it is plain as black and white OR night and day who we should be voting for…

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 6:21 PM

I’d assume that people who read Drudge know that already :-)

PS disclaimer noted, you are not a wacist :-)…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM

When Romney says it’s beneath the office of the Presidency, he’s assuming he’s running against someone that cares about the office of the Presidency.

bflat879 on July 14, 2012 at 6:10 PM

I do not think he is assuming anything of the kind..I think he is letting people know that he believes Obama is unfit for the office.

Terrye on July 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM

canopfor…I think I am going to start calling you “Linky” and I seriously mean that as a compliment! :o)

I think we all enjoy your quick links on items of interest. Thanks.

g2825m on July 14, 2012 at 5:57 PM

…Hot Air and the links supplied have save me a ton of time looking for news …some one here gave me the news about the ACLU suing Highland Park for students who couldn’t read 2 days before it hit the Detroit News headline. HA and JWR are all the info sources I need!

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2012 at 6:28 PM

This YouTube and the ones you posted earlier have led me to the conclusion that Mama Stanley slept with one or both Malcolm X and Frank Marshall Davis, communists both, and one of them actually fathered Obama, but certainly not the Kenyan named on his CGI birth certificate. My bet is on Malcolm X, however, due to the incredible resemblance and mannerisms.

His real birth certificate, the one the public hasn’t seen will have one of the two communists named as “Father”, hence why we haven’t seen it.

FYI, I had never believed, nor do I now, that Obama was born outside the USA, though perhaps not in Hawaii.

TXUS on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Yep. I’d like to see someone look at the timelines and figure out if the tramp could have crossed paths with Malcolm X in about the right month.

slickwillie2001 on July 14, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Looking towards a black and white fall me thinks.

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 6:22 PM

I’m dreamin’ of a white…fall :-)…

jimver on July 14, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Better to have Obama pound Romney on this now an voters get innured to it.

gerrym51 on July 14, 2012 at 6:30 PM

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