Oh great, yet another new EPA regulation making things more expensive for everyone

posted at 1:01 pm on July 14, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Just in case you needed yet another example of Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency going above and beyond the call of duty in putting their own nebulous agenda before the concerns of the American people, here ya’ go.

The EPA, working through the auspices of the U.S. Coast Guard, is set to begin enforcing a new rule on August 1st that will require all large marine vessels (like cargo and cruise ships) sailing in southern Alaska waters to use low-sulfur fuel. The EPA is justifying the regulation as an extension of an amendment to a treaty, the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution from Ships (MARPOL), that Hillary Clinton accepted in 2010. The problem is that our Senate has yet to ratify that particular amendment — but when have such minute legal particulars ever bothered the EPA?

Fortunately, Alaska is fighting back — on Friday, the state filed a lawsuit against the Obama administration to try and block the costly new regulation.

The lawsuit faults the EPA, the Department of Homeland Security and others for using a marine treaty amendment as the basis for the new federal regulations without waiting for ratification of that amendment by the U.S. Senate.

The Alaska Department of Law said in a statement that the low-sulfur-fuel requirement would be costly, jacking up prices for products shipped by marine vessel and harming Alaska’s cruise industry. …

“There are reasonable and equally effective alternatives for the Secretary and the EPA to consider which would still protect the environment but dramatically reduce the severe impact these regulations will have on Alaskan jobs and families.”

Totem Ocean Trailer Express, a major shipper operating in Alaska, estimates that the move to low-sulfur fuel will increase its costs by 8 percent, Geraghty said.

Really, Obama administration? You’re already denying a boatload of jobs, wealth, revenue, and economic growth to Alaskans by disallowing them access to a bunch of their own oil and gas, and now you’re butting in with an ill-thought-out, overzealous regulation that will negatively impact the thousands of jobs in the shipping and cruise industries? The Alaskan economy just can’t seem to catch a break from these people!

When you impose costs on businesses, you’re also imposing costs on the consumers of that product and the employees who produce it — prices go up, people stand to lose their jobs, and the economy suffers. It sounds like there are other alternatives the EPA might consider (and you’d think they would, given their penchant for long, drawn-out environmental impact reviews!), and again, the United States hasn’t even agreed to the shipping treaty’s new amendment yet. This is just another example of an out-of-control independent regulatory agency grabbing more power for itself and using fiat to enforce their green worldview, the costs be damned. Bad form, EPA.


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Resist, rebel and renew!

ThePrez on July 14, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Let’s Shutdown the EPA and Repeal Obamacare without ever having a vote in the Senate.
Can’t John Boehner just start issuing Decrees like Obama?

Varchild on July 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM

But Obama wants to create jobs! This report can’t be right! The Obama owned EPA would never destroy jobs!

/sarc

john1schn on July 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM

This crap costs us either way, the lawsuits being filed by states to protect us from the federal government aren’t being done pro bono.

Bishop on July 14, 2012 at 1:11 PM

upinak? Your take, please.

Bmore on July 14, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Obama is right on track to put America out of business -
except for his crony capitalist buddies!!

General Electric signs deal to invest in Burma

General Electric is to become the first US company to restart doing business in Burma following the relaxation of Washington-imposed sanctions, it was announced on Saturday.

American firms are wasting no time after President Barack Obama announced the issue of general licenses on Wednesday to allow investment and financial services.

GE was the first to move, agreeing through its local dealer to provide x-ray machines for cardiology and topography to two private hospitals in Burma.

The deal was announced on Saturday during a US business trip to Burma, where investors are hoping to tap into everything from infrastructure and financial services to information technology, oil and gas.

Seventy people from 37 US firms were on hand to examine investment opportunities.

I wonder how many of these 37 firms are Obama donors????

redguy on July 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

The problem is that the Democrats are in love with the *idea* of this regulation but have no awareness of how much difference it will make. The actual benefit from the regulation is to be so tiny as to be negligible. If you look at the monthly increases in atmospheric sulfur coming from China and India, this reduction can not even be measured.

In their minds “every little bit helps” but it doesn’t. The damage caused by the regulation greatly exceeds any benefit. In fact, you would not even be able to measure the amount of benefit from the regulation.

In fact, there IS a mechanism by which they could make a HUGE difference in atmospheric sulfur that I would gladly support:

Have the nations of the world band together and put out the coal seam fires that are burning globally. Each year, coal seam fires burning in the US, China, India, and Indonesia produce as much CO2 as ALL automotive traffic in North America and dump tons of sulfur into the air. Want to make a REAL difference? Engage on an internationally cooperative project to put these fires out. It would require development of new engineering skills and require cooperation among nations. These are extremely difficult to put out but if we are just going to blow cash, lets blow the cash on something that actually makes a difference.

crosspatch on July 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Many of towns in that area receive their basic supplies by water. Barges and ferries transport people and their supplies where they need to go. If this law affects those vessels, this could be major hardship foisted onto poor and middle class Alaskans.

Also, would it affect fishing vessels? I was watching Deadliest Catch the other night and they mentioned how high diesel is right now, and that it costs $100,000 to fill up a tank on one of those 100-150 ft. crab boats.

juliesa on July 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Obama is right on track to put America out of business

I would say that is pretty much the plan.

crosspatch on July 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Because other nations do this…oh wait. We are the only ones committing economic suicide.
It is time for the States to start ignoring the Federal Government.

pat on July 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Please let us get Mitt for president, please! And Mitt, you better do something about the epa in the first week/month you are in office! This agency is about as bad as any we have in dc and bho/epa are going whole hog to do their nasty best to do things before election to stop jobs. For the life of me I don’t understand why, we NEED jobs! Just like everything else bho/team does, don’t let the congress/courts/constitutions get in their way?
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letget on July 14, 2012 at 1:15 PM

The federal government is way beyond anything envisioned by the founders. It must be reigned in and limited to the 17 enumerated powers. The Confederate States were right about an out of control fed, let’s hope we can solve it without bullets this time…

Doomsday on July 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM

The problem is that our Senate has yet to ratify that particular amendment —

If it were a movie, any amusement at the farce would be giving way to disgust at the disrespect being shown the audience.

Time to boo and walk out.

Axe on July 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM

The lawsuit faults the EPA, the Department of Homeland Security and others for using a marine treaty amendment as the basis for the new federal regulations without waiting for ratification of that amendment by the U.S. Senate.

Imperial Presidency- example #11062012

These clowns love to talk about “the greater good” or “common good”. Indeed, Joe Biden claimed that’s the President’s job. What have they done for the “common good”?

Shut down coal plants? Raise utility prices? Stop Keystone Pipeline? Halt all offshore drilling? Allow guide dogs horses on planes, buses & in restaurants? Give waivers to unions? Free birth control for women?

Buy Danish on July 14, 2012 at 1:21 PM

The Obama Effect.

SagebrushPuppet on July 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Not the least bit surprising.

One need look no further than California and the last 25± years to see what all Democrats and their cult of ‘If It Looks Good And Feels Good — No Matter What The Cost — Do It!’ has in store for the entire USA if the vapid national electorate continues to remain vapid and void of even a shred of common sense.

FlatFoot on July 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Because other nations do this…oh wait. We are the only ones committing economic suicide.
It is time for the States to start ignoring the Federal Government.

pat on July 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM

“When in the course of human events…”

I think the only thing missing from the DOI was a notation to wash, rinse and repeat as necessary.

This government is utterly and completely out of control, needs to be stopped dead in its tracks and replaced with a much smaller and far less powerful one right now in complete accordance with the originalist interpretation of the Constitution.

What’s next? Are they going to tell Carnival Cruise Lines that they have to put catalytic converters on top of the smoke stacks of their ships?

turfmann on July 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM

The EPA is justifying the regulation as an extension of an amendment to a treaty, the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution from Ships (MARPOL), that Hillary Clinton accepted in 2010. The problem is that our Senate has yet to ratify that particular amendment — but when have such minute legal particulars ever bothered the EPA?

More treason, literally. Allying with an enemy to attack the US.

This criminal administration just won’t quit. Congress has the responsibility to try and stop these dangerous enemies of America. But, we all know that won’t happen.

Once again, I stress that just winning an election will not fix things. These traitors must face the law and suffer appropriate consequences for their insane and treasonous actions.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM

…These are extremely difficult to put out but if we are just going to blow cash, lets blow the cash on something that actually makes a difference.

crosspatch on July 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Ah, but you see, if a problem is solved then politicians can’t spend money on it year after year ‘trying to solve it’. Fixing a situation is not how politicians define success. I’m not sure they really want it. Power, on the other hand…Well, that’s the game.

Liam on July 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM

When you impose costs on businesses, you’re also imposing costs on the consumers of that product and the employees who produce it — prices go up, people stand to lose their jobs, and the economy suffers.

The Obama Mission Statement, in a nutshell. So far, Mission Accomplished.

TXUS on July 14, 2012 at 1:28 PM

I wonder how many new jobs at the EPA will be needed to implement and oversee this new regulation. Would they be civil service jobs? Anybody know?

Paddington on July 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Let’s Shutdown the EPA and Repeal Obamacare without ever having a vote in the Senate.
Can’t John Boehner just start issuing Decrees like Obama?

Varchild on July 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM

As much as it goes against my principles, I’d love to see that.

The Rogue Tomato on July 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM

“Let’s just be clear. We’ve lowered taxes for middle class families since I came in office.”
 
- President Barack H. Obama, July 2012

rogerb on July 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Can’t John Boehner just start issuing Decrees like Obama?

Varchild on July 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Unfortunately,this fool is part of the problem. Remember when obamacare was passed, Boehner, McConnel and the other RINOs rushed to the microphone to assure the libs that they had no plans to repeal obamacare. Guess they didn’t want to risk being disinvited to the Sunday talk shows and Washington parties.

Alabama Infidel on July 14, 2012 at 1:38 PM

When you impose costs on businesses, you’re also imposing costs on the consumers of that product and the employees who produce it — prices go up, people stand to lose their jobs, and the economy suffers.

The Obama Mission Statement, in a nutshell. So far, Mission Accomplished.

TXUS on July 14, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Bingo.

Buy Danish on July 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Why haven’t they defunded that organization yet? Even if Obama fights it, at least it could tie him up and stop him from more damage.

ctmom on July 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM

“boatload”, heh.

BKeyser on July 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Haven’t the courts been ruling in favor of the EPA lately?

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2012 at 1:43 PM

While it is good to scrutinize what the EPA is doing, it is just one of Obama’s instruments to destroy the United States.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 14, 2012 at 1:44 PM

And Mexicans want to come to this country because Mexico is corrupt or something.
And they cheer Obama.
Bizarro.

Electrongod on July 14, 2012 at 1:48 PM

EPA………..Evil Progressive Advocates.

Hey, let’s do this Mr. President. Let’s set up an agency that will grow unquestioned into a regulatory nightmare for America and it’s people.

Good, do it.

….and so it was.

PappyD61 on July 14, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Obama is right on track to put America out of business -
except for his crony capitalist buddies!!

General Electric signs deal to invest in Burma

GE is……….Obamas’ Halliburton.

PappyD61 on July 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Dismantle the EPA

workingclass artist on July 14, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Well, the Pentagon, in spite of the wailing and garment rending regarding budget cuts, is now partially using biogreen fuel in their vessels at 25 bucks a gallon as opposed to fosssil fuel at 4/gal. No reason that concept can’t also be extended to the civilian vessels in question, only at 100% usage. It makes sense if we want to save the earth.

a capella on July 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Where the hell are Boehner and McConnell? GOP leadership is a fantasy.

ultracon on July 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM

While it is good to scrutinize what the EPA is doing, it is just one of Obama’s instruments to destroy the United States.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 14, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Hold on, isn’t this an example of an EPA enforcement that will ultimately cost foreign manufacturers by far the most, increasing the cost of imports and thereby creating more jobs in the USA?

I know it’s popular to rail against the EPA but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t actually think about the impact of a specific regulation.

bayam on July 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Congress critters are scared to death of the greenboots on their necks. Even the big lovers of everything left Apple relented and agreed to continue to pay tribute to the greenies; how Kosher of them.

aposematic on July 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM

The problem is that the Democrats are in love with the *idea* of this regulation but have no awareness of how much difference it will make…
crosspatch on July 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

An interesting story — and perhaps some sort of movie or at at least a video should be made about it — is that of the quintessential big govt liberal George McGovern changing his mind about govt regulation after trying to operate a chain of Hotels. McGovern wrote:

“I wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had first hand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. Senator and a more understanding presidential contender.”
McGovern goes on to explain how needless regulations, Federal, State, and local rules–many that he says he supported–created impossible conditions for doing business.

anotherJoe on July 14, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Watching the clowns from this administration packing their bags and leaving town will warm my heart and I hope I can be there with a PITCH FORK!

tim c on July 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Haven’t the courts been ruling in favor of the EPA lately?

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Yes that’s a difficult part of the problem. Those brilliant scientists on the Supreme Court and other federal courts have been ruling on the validity of selected scientific theories.

slickwillie2001 on July 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Why should Alaska even bother arguing its case in court while a much cheaper solution is available. Just extend a flaming middle finger in EPA’s general direction and let them pound sand till cows come home.

Archivarix on July 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM

The EPA will betray you. (:

SparkPlug on July 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM

tim c on July 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I think I have found a prison sentence, number of years, I could live with that bho/team would get if convicted of all the illegal krap they have done!

ttp://www.gazette.com/articles/bank-141658-gets-tricks.html
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letget on July 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

@#2:02,
Sorry, here is the link.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/bank-141658-gets-tricks.html
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letget on July 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

The proposed “Small Arms Treaty” will be used to justify new gun regulations just like MARPOL is being used domestically to enact new environmental regulations.

Wigglesworth on July 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Thank God for Democrats. If not for them I wouldn’t know what to do with this huge stash of money I’ve been sitting on. They’re just going to up and take it from me. Problem solved. They’re geniuses.

jan3 on July 14, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Hold on, isn’t this an example of an EPA enforcement that will ultimately cost foreign manufacturers by far the most, increasing the cost of imports and thereby creating more jobs in the USA?
 
bayam on July 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM

 

I’m genuinely interested in how you think an 8% increase in the cost of imported components for assembled-in-America widgets will encourage local job creation. Please explain.

rogerb on July 14, 2012 at 2:24 PM

I think I have found a prison sentence, number of years, I could live with that bho/team would get if convicted of all the illegal krap they have done!

ttp://www.gazette.com/articles/bank-141658-gets-tricks.html
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letget on July 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

And I wouldn’t mind if their orange jumpsuits were all manufactured in China.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Laws? We don’t need no stinking laws! This is The Imperial Presidency of His Royal Highness, The Chosen One, The Lord Obamassiah!

GarandFan on July 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Never a dull moment with these lilliputian Big-Endian minions and their lilliputian wannabe king, namely jugears.

I promised never to mumble Obama’s name in public, hence jugears.
Oh wait….

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

an ill-thought-out, overzealous regulation that will negatively impact the thousands of jobs in the shipping and cruise industries?

Why do some people continue to give the obamanation and his (mis)administration the benefit of the doubt? The various blows to our economy, the various socialistic policies promoted, the rulings from on high by fiat aren’t haphazard happenings. After 3 1/2 years, one would think that our learned colleagues would QUIT being politically correct and call a spade a spade…

Gohawgs on July 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Hold on, isn’t this an example of an EPA enforcement that will ultimately cost foreign manufacturers by far the most, increasing the cost of imports and thereby creating more jobs in the USA?

bayam on July 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Maybe you should just make foreign imports illegal? JOBS!!!

Then you can just put price controls in for American goods to keep inflation at bay. Price stability – by law!!! (Well, by dictat, but that qualifies as “law” to the ‘empathetic’ leftist scum, like yourself)

Then you can just have the Fed print up as many free dollars as you want. FREE MONEY!!! STIMULUS!!!!

Paradise is only months away.

You guys are friggin sooper-geniuses.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I recently had to ship an ink sample to an ink manufacturing company. It was only about 240 ml (8oz), but it was methanol based ink. I packed up my sample using the original liter container, and headed off to FedEx, where I was informed that I would need a hazmat license to ship it, plus they claimed the regulation said it had to be packed in a glass or metal container, not the original plastic one.

So, I headed over to UPS. There they made a phone call since they were not knowledgeable about the regulations even though they spend all day shipping things. Then I was told that, yes I needed a hazmat license. I called the company that I was sending it to and explained my dilemma. They issued a shipping order through a local trucking company, that had no regular office in our area. I then had to contact the parent shipping company in Missoula which gave me the cell phone number of a driver that worked out of a dark shipping point in town. I called him and arranged a meeting by the security fence surrounding the local ship point. Without any paperwork I handed over the 250cc of ink, and was told no worries it would get to it’s destination sometime soon.

Thanks EPA for all you do. I feel so much safer…

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Does anybody miss Bush yet?

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM

See all those jobs you saved or created by having to run all over, calling people up and asking questions, buying new packaging …

JOBS!!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 2:33 PM

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Next time when asked “does your package contain any liquids, etc, etc” simply say, nope…

Gohawgs on July 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Does your contact have a friend who can deliver smokes from an indian reservation for me? Just wondering.

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM

The problem is that the Democrats are in love with the *idea* of this regulation but have no awareness of how much difference it will make.

crosspatch on July 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

They don’t care how much difference it will make, or what effect it might have on Alaskans. They give the enviros something they want, and they have no chance to win Alaska.

Athanasius on July 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Oh great, yet another new EPA regulation making things more expensive for everyone

In a rational world the EPA wouldn’t exist at all to torment, extort and destroy domestic business and industry as well as individual citizens. It’s veered far beyond merely protecting the environment which was always just a cover for it’s being a a strongarm political tool of the extreme left. I concur with its need to be abolished.

hawkeye54 on July 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

After 3 1/2 years, one would think that our learned colleagues would QUIT being politically correct and call a spade a spade…

Gohawgs on July 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

After giving this 5 second s of thought, it has been decided that “calling a spade a spade” has unfortunate racial overtones, and is to be replaced by “calling a parakeet a parakeet”.

Thanks for your cooperation, Comrade.

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Does your contact have a friend who can deliver smokes from an indian reservation for me? Just wondering.

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Not worth it. Buy MYO tobacco, tubes and an injection machine. I’ve been doing it for over a year. For good tobacco (it’s marked “pipe tobacco” or “dual use” but it’s cigarette tobacco that is just cut longer) I make a pack of cigs for about $1.20 and I prefer my cigarettes to Marlboros and other brands.

I use Kentucky Red Select tobacco. It’s good stuff, but there are many other tobaccos to choose from. I highly recommend this and I recommend doing it before they hike the taxes on the dual use/pipe tobacco.

Take a look at rollyourown dot com.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 2:40 PM

After giving this 5 second s of thought, it has been decided that “calling a spade a spade” has unfortunate racial overtones, and is to be replaced by “calling a parakeet a parakeet”.

Actually calling a parrot a parrot. Cause Mr. Flexibilty is just so wonderful at repeating everything TOTUS tells him to sqauwk.

hawkeye54 on July 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM

After giving this 5 second s of thought, it has been decided that “calling a spade a spade” has unfortunate racial overtones,

There’s nothing racial about it. Don’t give in to stupidity. They would like you to think that the term “black hole” is “raaaaaacissst!!” too.

There’s never anything to be gained by yielding even an inch to this sort of abject stupidity.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Seventy people from 37 US firms were on hand to examine investment opportunities.

I wonder how many of these 37 firms are Obama donors????

redguy on July 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

My guess is…ALL OF THEM.

Tomolena1 on July 14, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Obama is right on track to put America out of business

I would say that is pretty much the plan.

crosspatch on July 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Exactly. Can some of us please stop saying that “0bama is a failure”? He’s wildly successful. Look at the destruction.

bofh on July 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM

anotherJoe on July 14, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Thanks, that a goodie !!

pambi on July 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM

The majority of Obama voters are big city dwelling rich liberals, blacks, hispanics, union workers, and 42 million Food Stampers…as long as they get their hand outs paid by everyone else they do not care what Obama does.

albill on July 14, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Does anybody miss Bush yet?

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Didn’t take long at all for me. Started missing Bush the moment I heard the “police acted stupidly” remark.

Tomolena1 on July 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Taxation and Inflation.

This is your democrat policy to destroy the middle class.

tom daschle concerned on July 14, 2012 at 3:04 PM

This isn’t the only area where the EPA is causing hardship on Alaskans. In the interior, electricity is through the roof because the EPA will not let the electric company here open a coal plant in Healy. Coal is in abundance and cheaper than diesel. But because the EPA and the environmental whack jobs here in the state have thrown continual roadblocks on the plan, we are charged not only for the electricity, but a separate fuel charge on our bill as well. And my last month’s bill was $275, with over half being fuel costs. Also, the electric company raised their rates at the beginning of the year so interior Alaskans are getting slammed on both ends.

ak moose stew on July 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM

There’s nothing racial about it. Don’t give in to stupidity. They would like you to think that the term “black hole” is “raaaaaacissst!!” too.

There’s never anything to be gained by yielding even an inch to this sort of abject stupidity.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 2:46 PM

There you go again. Actually, “black hole” might be better replaced with “sucking spot”, but then gays might be offended —not to mention fans of bestiality. Also, “abject stupidity” is a little harsh and unnecessary, don’t you think? How about “new edge thinking”? It seems to mean the same thing.

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Taxation and Inflation.

This is your democrat policy to destroy the middle class.

tom daschle concerned on July 14, 2012 at 3:04 PM

“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”
—Lenin

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Does anybody miss Bush yet?

timberline on July 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Didn’t take long at all for me. Started missing Bush the moment I heard the “police acted stupidly” remark.

Tomolena1 on July 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM

For me it was the Mussolinian pose on election night on the stage in Chicago. That sent shivers down my spine.

slickwillie2001 on July 14, 2012 at 3:13 PM

It’s almost like this 0bama fellow is actively working to bring about the demise of the USA.

jukin3 on July 14, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Also, “abject stupidity” is a little harsh and unnecessary, don’t you think? How about “new edge thinking”? It seems to mean the same thing.

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Heh. So true.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Bad form EPA? That’s all she could come up with as a closing tag line? Bad form?

How about

Nice disastrous policy bent on US job destruction EPA Morons.

If the EPA were any dumber, we’d had a failed government…oh wait.

You’d think the EPA wanted to slash jobs like they were having a USA Going Out of Business Sale.

Something like that. “Bad form” is like she was angry at the tea and crumpets they served were cold and tasteless.

JP1986UM on July 14, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I can’t wait until we sweep all the TRASH out of the White House and sweep ALL the TRASH from the rest of Obama’s government!

Hopefully,the TRASH in the SENATE and HOUSE will be swept out as well!

Delsa on July 14, 2012 at 3:23 PM

…I WANNA PUNCH SOMEBODY…!!!…(can you get in trouble… for “wanting”?)
I’m starting to lose it!

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I recently had to ship an ink sample to an ink manufacturing company. It was only about 240 ml (8oz), but it was methanol based ink. I packed up my sample using the original liter container, and headed off to FedEx, where I was informed that I would need a hazmat license to ship it, plus they claimed the regulation said it had to be packed in a glass or metal container, not the original plastic one.

So, I headed over to UPS. There they made a phone call since they were not knowledgeable about the regulations even though they spend all day shipping things. Then I was told that, yes I needed a hazmat license. I called the company that I was sending it to and explained my dilemma. They issued a shipping order through a local trucking company, that had no regular office in our area. I then had to contact the parent shipping company in Missoula which gave me the cell phone number of a driver that worked out of a dark shipping point in town. I called him and arranged a meeting by the security fence surrounding the local ship point. Without any paperwork I handed over the 250cc of ink, and was told no worries it would get to it’s destination sometime soon.

Thanks EPA for all you do. I feel so much safer…

claudius on July 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM

What a nightmare…on the upside…Obamacare will pay for any additional anxiety meds?

really I hate the EPA…but I’m a Texan…basically I’m all for defunding most of DC & turn congress into a part time deal. Return the federal government to it’s constitutional duties.

workingclass artist on July 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Remember this line?

Why isn’t it working?

This is why, P.BO.

Count to 10 on July 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Not worth it. Buy MYO tobacco, tubes and an injection machine. I’ve been doing it for over a year. For good tobacco (it’s marked “pipe tobacco” or “dual use” but it’s cigarette tobacco that is just cut longer) I make a pack of cigs for about $1.20 and I prefer my cigarettes to Marlboros and other brands.

I use Kentucky Red Select tobacco. It’s good stuff, but there are many other tobaccos to choose from. I highly recommend this and I recommend doing it before they hike the taxes on the dual use/pipe tobacco.

Take a look at rollyourown dot com.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Rolling your own with pure tobacco is safer for you as well, as many scientists believe that many of the health problems associated with cigarettes are due to all the chemical additives used to create a more even burn.

JFS61 on July 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Most of the nations of the world propose and ratify such treaties because they know only Western nations have any intention of abiding.The others simply ignore what they have subscribed to.

pat on July 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

All part of the plan to destroy our economy and crash our Nation. They keep turning the screws, wherever they find an opportunity. Never mind the Constitution or the law.

Treasonous scum, the lot.

PakviRoti on July 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM

When you impose costs on businesses, you’re also imposing costs on the consumers of that product and the employees who produce it — prices go up, people stand to lose their jobs, and the economy suffers.

That’s why (over)taxing the rich isn’t taxing the rich. Overtaxing the rich just makes them pass the cost of their goods and services on to the middle-class consumer, who ends up paying the taxes indirectly.

Even so, that IS mission accomplished for Obama.

The Rogue Tomato on July 14, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Energy suppression = Job #1 for O-admin.

So easy for Romney to campaign with, those two little words. Nobody likes to be suppressed, and Romney could make this case. Hope to see him stiffen up and go on the offensive, rather than pansy-ass “I want you to apologize” time-wasters to hostile media.

RushBaby on July 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Congress has an answer to the ridiculous laws of the EPA, stop funding it. Is our Congress deaf? Yes! Does it listen to the screams of the people that put them in office? No! No wonder they have the power.

mixplix on July 14, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Obama’s war on energy is a war on the middle class…His policies will make everything more expensive. Inflation in basic goods and services along with electricity, and gas will savage the very poor and middle class. This is a rogue government…Instead, the Federal government should be committed to helping make our energy costs as low as possible in order to benefit our people and our manufacturers…Obama and his EPA surrogates are incredibly stupid and insensitive to the needs of Americans. Preaching to the choir I know…

Nozzle on July 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM

What I want to hear Romney say is that within an hour of taking office he will sign executive orders vacating every one of Obama’s executive orders and every unilaterally and/or unconstitutionally enacted cabinet and agency regulation that suppresses commerce, right to work, energy production, food production, impedes medical care, encourages welfare dependency, invades privacy and supplants our rights to peaceful use of our own rightfully obtained private property. In other words, everything the regime has done to circumvent congressional responsibilities and misuse it’s own tacit position of power.

ironked on July 14, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Why is this only going to be enforced in southern Alaska waters? Why aren’t cruise lines and shipping companies out of California being hit with this? If it’s going to be the rules why only the one state?

sdan on July 14, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Gohawgs on July 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Racist…

affenhauer on July 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

ak moose stew on July 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Why not just open the coal plant anyway, and when the EPA locals squawk, chain their doors shut when they go home that evening? I believe that’s called a ‘shot across the bow’…

affenhauer on July 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

This is more proof that President Obama’s administration doesn’t care about the law or the Constitution. The EPA can’t use the provisions of a treaty that hasn’t been ratified as the basis for rulemaking.

If it isn’t ratified, it’s just another scrap of paper.

LFRGary on July 14, 2012 at 6:38 PM

MARPOL impacts both coastal ships and overseas transportation ships. Operating within 200 miles of the coastline of the US including Alaska and Hawaii including the connecting waters along the pacific coast of Canada. http://www.liscr.com/liscr/Portals/0/MarineAdvisory_08-2012.pdf

“The North American ECA covers three distinct areas:
1. Off the North American Atlantic/Gulf Coasts;
2. Off the North American Pacific coast; and
3. Around certain parts of Hawaii.
It also includes the St. Lawrence Seaway, the Great Lakes and rivers (such as Mississippi) which are
accessed by international shipping.”

Ships that operate beyond the 200 mile limit can use higher sulphur fuel and switch to lower sulphur MARPOL compliant fuel as the ships begin operations within the restriction zone. Thus, all MARPOL controlled ships that operate in trans-oceanic trade will have to carry two types of fuel, at least two types of lubrication oil an engage in a certified cutover well outside the restricted zones. Failure to use the proper fuel can result in substantial penalties, and of course there are strict documentation requirements. I’m not sure precisely this impacts foreign flagged ships, but in the Alaska and Hawaii segments regulated under the Jones Act, interstate shipping is limited to US flagged vessels.

“Operational Guidance: Low and high sulphur fuel has to be stored in different tanks. Different
grades of cylinder oils may have to be carried if operating with low sulphur fuel for any length of
time to prevent excessive calcium deposits and resultant liner wear. If low sulphur fuels are used,
high wear rates may be experienced with fuel injection equipment. “

islestar on July 14, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Affenhauer,
I wish we could just lock them out. The EPA is also the group who gets on us every year for causing poor air quality in the winter because folks here have the audacity to keep their vehicles running in -50 degrees while they run in the grocery store to pick up a few items. I wish they would leave us alone.

ak moose stew on July 14, 2012 at 8:28 PM

This Alaskan says screw the EPA!

8starsnorth on July 14, 2012 at 8:32 PM

According to the Constitution, Article II Section 2 Clause 2. He (the President) shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur:

Don’t see anything there that says the EPA make and enforces treaties. But I’m not sure it would fly with this Supreme Court, because they seem to have a problem with reading and understanding the Constitution.

savage24 on July 14, 2012 at 10:48 PM

bayam on July 14, 2012 at 1:53 PM

 
I’m genuinely interested in how you think an 8% increase in the cost of imported components for assembled-in-America widgets will encourage local job creation. Please explain.
 
rogerb on July 14, 2012 at 2:24 PM

 
I wonder why this thread died?

rogerb on July 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

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