Obama administration guts work requirements for Clinton-era welfare reform

posted at 11:21 am on July 13, 2012 by Rob Bluey

The landmark welfare reform law President Bill Clinton signed in 1996 helped move nearly 3 million families off the government dole — the result of federal work requirements that promoted greater self-reliance.

Yesterday the Obama administration gutted those federal work rules, ignoring the will of Congress by issuing a policy directive that allows the Department of Health and Human Services to waive the work requirements for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program. “The result is the end of welfare reform,” wrote Robert Rector and Kiki Bradley of The Heritage Foundation.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), author of welfare reform legislation, said in response to the news:

President Obama just tore up a basic foundation of the welfare contract. In exchange for taxpayer-funded TANF payments, the law calls on able-bodied adults to work, look for work, take classes, or undergo drug and alcohol counseling. It’s the tough love that gives people motivation to help themselves.

The administration’s decision follows other recent executive actions on immigration, marriage, religion, education and energy policies. In each case, President Obama has put his own “imperial presidency” ahead of Congress and federal law.

The latest maneuver is particularly alarming given the rising number of Americans who rely on the government for aid. Obama has dramatically increased welfare spending. TANF, the program in question, is just one of more than 70 welfare programs operated by the government at a cost of nearly $1 trillion per year.

Jordan, who leads the conservative Republican Study Committee, last year spearheaded a plan to reform welfare. The Welfare Reform Act of 2011 would require recipients of food stamps to work or prepare for a job, disclose the costs of total federal, state, and local welfare spending, and return welfare spending to its 2007 level once unemployment hits 6.5 percent.

The administration’s action goes in the opposite direction, Jordan warned: “By waiving the law’s requirements, President Obama will make it harder for Americans to escape poverty. He is hurting the very people he claims to help.”

UPDATE: In response to widespread criticism, the Obama administration is (predictably) dismissing the significance of its policy directive. George Sheldon, acting assistant secretary for the Administration for Children and Families, said the change will give states greater flexibility to spend more time assisting individuals and less time on paperwork.

Rob Bluey directs the Center for Media and Public Policy, an investigative journalism operation at The Heritage Foundation. Follow him on Twitter: @RobertBluey


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Gut Health and Human Services.

SouthernGent on July 13, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Where’s Dick Morris? He’ll take this personally.

Axe on July 13, 2012 at 11:23 AM

He is hurting the very people he claims to help

Ahhh, I see some people are beginning to realize this. But when do they go back into their shell and try not to believe it?

upinak on July 13, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Good Times.
Any time you meet a payment.
Good Times.
Any time you need a friend.
Good Times.
Any time you’re out from under.

Not getting hastled, not getting hustled.
Keepin’ your head above water,
Making a wave when you can.

Temporary lay offs.
Good Times.
Easy credit rip offs.
Good Times.
Scratchin’ and surviving.
Good Times.
Hangin in a chow line
Good Times.
Ain’t we lucky we got ‘em
Good Times.

aquaviva on July 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Obama really really hates Americans.

tom daschle concerned on July 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM

the law calls on able-bodied adults to work, look for work, take classes, or undergo drug and alcohol counseling. It’s the tough love that gives people motivation to help themselves.

requiring people to work, look for work, take classes and stay off drugs has got to be racist.
/

ted c on July 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM

OUCH – this one’s going to hurt – $i trillion

koaiko on July 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Do we need any more proof that the Obama plan is to make as many people as possible dependent on the govt?
Parasites eventually kill the host.

Bevan on July 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Good Lord !!
C’mon, November !!

pambi on July 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Step right up! Get’s your free welfare! We got Welfare here! Free stuff! Get your Free stuff!

Disgusting.

portlandon on July 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

I’m sure Romney will get around to attacking this in a couple of months when he finally decides it’s time to get off his ass.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Wow. As Joe DiGenova said, we are now dealing with a lawless regime.

WordsMatter on July 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

More people relying on government handouts, means more voters voting for him.
His hope is to gain 5 or 10% more votes, what do you bet it’s a push to sign those people up to vote?

right2bright on July 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

ignoring the will of Congress by issuing a policy directive

Ruling by imperial decree. We don’t need no stinkin’ Constitution, right Barry? Not when we have the all-wise, all-knowing Barry Obama to show us the Way, the Truth, and the Light.

And what are Congress and the Senate going to do about this usurption of their authority? Send Barry a strongly-worded letter of protest?

Impeach this lawless SOB for blatantly and repeatedly violating his oath of office.

AZCoyote on July 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I read this earlier at: p://www.foundry.org/2012/07/12/obama-guts-welfare-reform/.

The new welfare dictate issued by the Obama Administration clearly guts the law. The Administration tramples on the actual legislation passed by Congress and seeks to impose its own policy choices—a pattern that has become all too common in this Administration.

And who in the MSM/LSM is going to pick it up for tonight’s broadcast? Esh

CoffeeLover on July 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Yesterday the Obama administration gutted those federal work rules, ignoring the will of Congress by issuing a policy directive

Using some people’s money to buy other people’s votes.

petefrt on July 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Clinton went along with the republican congress.

newportmike on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

usurpation

AZCoyote on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

As Obama’s policies prove more and more successful expect GOP to try to claim ownership of them.
 
lester on May 8, 2012 at 8:49 PM

rogerb on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

But it’s Obama money! It pays the mortgage! ‘Cuz he’s the Man! We don’t need no Congress!

/Obama welfare queen off

Steve Z on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Team Romney is sure to send out a strongly-worded mass email about this. That’ll do the trick!

inthemiddle on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Imperial pResidency.

Del Dolemonte on July 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Bad campaign strategy by Team Obama…this is priceless.

workingclass artist on July 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Bill ?? What sayest thou, Mr. Clinton ?? Let him have it !!!

pambi on July 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Buying votes. Obama can’t get you a job (unless you’re a lobbyist) but he can transfer wealth to you from other citizens.

gwelf on July 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Is Democrat Obama saying Democrat Clinton was somehow ‘wrong’ for signing the Reform bill into law, when Clinton not only has bragged about doing it for 16 years but acting like he’s the one who authored it?

Liam on July 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM

When is the House going to grow some damn balls and start choking off funds to programs and agencies that violate the law in how they are using their resources?

NotCoach on July 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM

America’s crack dealer strikes again.

BKeyser on July 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Bill ?? What sayest thou, Mr. Clinton ?? Let him have it !!!

pambi on July 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Clinton will save Obama here. He’ll come out and say that Obama isn’t gutting his welfare reform.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Where is Boehner and his call to vote to defund this crap? When is House ever going to defend the Constitution and means to govern BY LAW?

riddick on July 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

And inthemidddens show up again brilliantly.

derecho on July 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

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derecho on July 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

The president does not have the power to “waive” laws.

forest on July 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Clinton went along with the republican congress.

newportmike on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

True…But he’s also been resting on those laurels.

Team Obama just bitchslapped him again

workingclass artist on July 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM

What the HELL is it going to take to get Congress to STOP the funding of ALL the Federal agencies that are killing us?

If not now..WHEN?????

STOP THE FUNDING!!!!!!!!!!!!

EPA-HHS-DOJ….

lib-or-tea on July 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM

will this administration stop at nothing in order to buy votes? what’s next?….free Viagra?

Renee on July 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Why have laws that can be waived…that is lawlessness and anarchy.

rjh on July 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Somehow I feel bho is only getting started with this type of krap? IMO, bho is going to be he!! bent on seeing to it if he is not re-elected, it will take years to un-do what he has/is doing?

WE have GOT to get rid of bho and his whole crooked anti-American team come Nov.!

BTW, I ha!e bho for what he is doing to our Republic!
L

letget on July 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I blame Congress as much as the Obama Administration. Where are the press conferences? The outrage? The fight? Only crickets.

lea on July 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

As Obama’s policies prove more and more successful expect GOP to try to claim ownership of them.

lester on May 8, 2012 at 8:49 PM

rogerb on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

That’s got to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen in my life.

NotCoach on July 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

In 2008, I told the wife–”If Obama wins, we are selling home in CO. and moving to TX”. I listed it the day after, and, only as God could arrange, we closed on Inauguration Day, and moved.

Fast forward 4 years later…I have been thinking about the “straw that broke the camel’s back” moment I might have that will have me pondering to leave this country altogether if this Panderer get re-elected…with this news, I just had the moment..

Eff-ewe B.O.

hillsoftx on July 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Bill ?? What sayest thou, Mr. Clinton ?? Let him have it !!!

pambi on July 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Clinton will save Obama here. He’ll come out and say that Obama isn’t gutting his welfare reform.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Que Newt

workingclass artist on July 13, 2012 at 11:36 AM

He’s pulling out all the stops. He only has a couple months left to destroy the country.

The Rogue Tomato on July 13, 2012 at 11:37 AM

This is the Cloward-Pivens strategy, add people to the welfare rolls until you bankrupt the system.

Obama just removed an impediment to that goal.

Herald of Woe on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Would it be too much of a stretch to think that part of the motivation behind this is a growing animosity Obama has toward Bill Clinton? Welfare reform was a big part of Clinton’s legacy, and I’m sure BO is quite aware of that.

In any case, I really don’t think that Obama wants Clinton on his bad side. I wasn’t a fan of Bill Clinton to say the least, but I believe he is a hell of a lot better political tactician than is Obama, and could devastate his campaign if Obama really pisses him off.

Reggie1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

the Obama administration gutted those federal work rules, ignoring the will of Congress by issuing a policy directive

he is now daring Congress to impeach him.

ted c on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

De-fund HHS
And do it NOW

Delsa on July 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM

THOSE FKING PARASITES DO NOT WANT TO WORK, H3LL, THEY CAN’T EVEN SPELL “WORK”….PARASITES HAVE GOT TO GO!!!!!!

ARIZONAVETERAN on July 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Well Rob, your work has just been posted by Herman Cain on Facebook.

Good job. :)

upinak on July 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM

“By waiving the law’s requirements, President Obama will make it harder for Americans to escape poverty. He is hurting the very people he claims to help.”

Don’t forget his statements come with an expiration date, be sure to check that before you buy the bull.

Ukiah on July 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Team Romney is sure to send out a strongly-worded mass email about this. That’ll do the trick!

inthemiddle on July 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Why turn this on Romney and his team? Oh. that’s right, because you are a douchebag that fluffs the obambi team every chance you get. You are probably on SNAP and loving it.

VegasRick on July 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

So what is the point of Congress these days? They can pass all the laws they like but seemingly Emperor Pookie can simply ignore them by executive fiat.

I’m sure the MSM will be all over this kind of constitutional abuse.

CorporatePiggy on July 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Hey, Billy Jeff, isn’t this the same little pisher that called you a racist? You gonna take this crap from him?

Naturally Curly on July 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Congress needs to start writing laws with a section that declares the law, or any part of it, cannot be impeded or invalidated by executive order.

Liam on July 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM

In ’08 he ran an ad taking credit for “passing” the Clinton / Gingrich welfare reform proposals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47xSvTzRv0

Midnightrain on July 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Fascist-in-Chief.

Dear Liar does not believe in democracy or the rule of law.

rbj on July 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Can somebody explain this whole “waive the requirements of the law” thing? Are we in total lawlessness-land here now? Maybe we should ask John Roberts; he might be able to explain it…

MTF on July 13, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Boehner get out of the bar, coctail dinner hour and a half is over, time to do something about this SCOAMF and his peeing on the constituttionand separation of powers. At least come forth and cry for us for Gods sake!

ConcealedKerry on July 13, 2012 at 11:43 AM

he is now daring Congress to impeach him.

ted c on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Yep.

petefrt on July 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

I have trouble even categorizing this as vote buying. This impacts his core constituents for sure, but does it add to the gross total vote count he needs? I’m not convinced it brings any new voters into the President’s camp. Could it be that other liberal types where on the fence waiting for just this kind of gesture to get them out in November? The political calculus is befuddling, but certainly the act of an imperator.

DumboTheAvenger on July 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Do you really think Clinton cares about his welfare reform remaining intact? I think he could give a sh!t. It was something he did at the time to show voters he wasn’t a liberal.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

ignoring the will of Congress by issuing a policy directive

Wait, WHAT???

I didn’t realize we are living in a constitutional monarchy.

Congress needs to put a stop to this NOW. Otherwise, what is it that they actually do??

KMC1 on July 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Dear Liar does not believe in democracy or the rule of law.

rbj on July 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM

The rule of law is racist because the laws were written to preserve white supremacy.

The Rogue Tomato on July 13, 2012 at 11:45 AM

President Obama has put his own “imperial presidency” ahead of Congress and federal law.

He will not be satisfied until he has dragged everyone down to the lowest common denominator and bankrupted the nation. November cannot come too soon.

We need congress to scream what barack is doing from the top of the capitol building. This has to be shown on the news, along with how it will impact the nation, and that barack did it on his own.

DuctTapeMyBrain on July 13, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Obama really really hates Americans.

Well, half of them, anyway.

Fredo on July 13, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Can we call him a Socialist NOW?

Socratease on July 13, 2012 at 11:45 AM

The MSM will have King Barry’s back on this. They’ll be saying it’s some minor, meaningless change that the GOP is trying to exploit for political gain.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM

The president does not have the power to “waive” laws.

forest on July 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Oh yes he does! Because there apparently isn’t anyone with the guts to actually stand up to his arrogant bullying.

Hoof Hearted on July 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM

NOWHERE TO CUT!

This trend of ignoring the will of the people and the laws on the books is most troubling but what I expected from the boy-king.

Those wild internet rumors that 0bama would be a complete disaster and a tyrant are proving quite underestimated.

Where are the republicans?

jukin3 on July 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Do you really think Clinton cares about his welfare reform remaining intact? I think he could give a sh!t. It was something he did at the time to show voters he wasn’t a liberal.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Billy Jeff is focused on hookers and parties with some decidedly suspect characters these days. Politics? Not so much.

CorporatePiggy on July 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

he is now daring Congress to impeach him.

ted c on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Hmmm… he knows Congress would never even start impeachment proceedings.

The Rogue Tomato on July 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Congress under Obama looks more & more superfluous: he essentially makes & changes legislation by executive fiat. Give him a second term and freeloaders will wonder why they even need a Congress.

Chessplayer on July 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Wait, WHAT???

I didn’t realize we are living in a constitutional monarchy.

Congress needs to put a stop to this NOW. Otherwise, what is it that they actually do??

KMC1 on July 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

There is no primogentiure. There is no concern for any sort of Constitution. This is a dictatorship.

And it all goes back to 1998 midterms and the media narrative that the impeachment hurt what should have been GOP gains. Everybody is far too gutless to impeach here when we have a President with clearly no concern for the Constitutional separation of powers.

Gingotts on July 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Our Friday news dump while lsm is distracting with bain

cmsinaz on July 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Yesterday the Obama administration gutted those federal work rules, ignoring the will of Congress by issuing a policy directive that allows the Department of Health and Human Services to waive the work requirements for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program. “The result is the end of welfare reform

…how long before the gobberment starts advertising that fact with your tax dollars on ALL the airwaves!

KOOLAID2 on July 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Would it be too much of a stretch to think that part of the motivation behind this is a growing animosity Obama has toward Bill Clinton? Welfare reform was a big part of Clinton’s legacy, and I’m sure BO is quite aware of that.

In any case, I really don’t think that Obama wants Clinton on his bad side. I wasn’t a fan of Bill Clinton to say the least, but I believe he is a hell of a lot better political tactician than is Obama, and could devastate his campaign if Obama really pisses him off.

Reggie1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

No it’s not a stretch at all.

workingclass artist on July 13, 2012 at 11:49 AM

No this is a good thing…..

The National Uber-Teet State (NUTS) will collapse under this thug.

Face it …. we don’t live under a constitution any more … there are no limits to taxation for anything we may or may not be doing. The NUTS is the global sponsor of Marxist Socialism and has put more blood and money in the the expansion of Necro-monging Islam than any other country in the history of the world.

Americans will live on past the end of the NUTS. Just as Russians lived through CZARS and Commies.

And ….. the next version will be re-establish freedom and government that is based on what must be done….not what can be done.

lm10001 on July 13, 2012 at 11:49 AM

My Obamaclock says 191 days until sanity returns to our government. No President could get away with this if we had a free press and a COngress concerned about the separation of powers. Right now we have Izvestia and Pravda, disguised as the MSM, and a Senate that can’t even pass a budget for fear the voters wouldn’t re-elect them to not pass a budget next year either.

If the past 4 years have shown us anything it’s there is such a thing as lack of experience.

bflat879 on July 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM

he is now daring Congress to impeach him.

ted c on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Hmmm… he knows Congress would never even start impeachment proceedings.

The Rogue Tomato on July 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

…John Bonehead would proceed to weep first!

KOOLAID2 on July 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Yep, keep’em on the Gubmint dole; that will keep their vote (do these people vote?). Zero don’t need no Congress when he’s got Imperial Decrees. I’m waiting for the one making him el Presidente for Life.

ghostwalker1 on July 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM

If Obama is willing to do this sort of thing during a reelection campaign, imagine what he would do if given another term. He’ll have absolutely nothing to lose. Sure you could try to impeach him, in fact with a GOP majority in the House you might actually succeed.

But then what? You have to have 2/3 of the Senate to remove him. Fat chance.

Chilling.

Reggie1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM

The Fundamental Transformation of America.

Our country made a colossal mistake in 2008.

visions on July 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM

…how long before the gobberment starts advertising that fact with your tax dollars on ALL the airwaves!

KOOLAID2 on July 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

I expect the ads to start immediately, with back-to-back ads for SNAP.

The Rogue Tomato on July 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Hey! Barry’s in trouble! Can’t get re-election donations! His base is ticked off at him! 120 days to the election. TIME TO BUY VOTES!

It’s the Chicago way!

GarandFan on July 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Is there any law Obama will not break to pander for votes?

WannabeAnglican on July 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Would it be too much of a stretch to think that part of the motivation behind this is a growing animosity Obama has toward Bill Clinton? Welfare reform was a big part of Clinton’s legacy, and I’m sure BO is quite aware of that.

In any case, I really don’t think that Obama wants Clinton on his bad side. I wasn’t a fan of Bill Clinton to say the least, but I believe he is a hell of a lot better political tactician than is Obama, and could devastate his campaign if Obama really pisses him off.

Reggie1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Clinton never wanted this reform, it was forced on him to win election…he may grumble just to save face, but not really care.
The irony, it was one of his landmark policies.

right2bright on July 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Why shouldn’t Obama do this? He’s been acting like an a-hole for 3 1/2 years and he’s still leading in the polls. He never pays a price for anything he does.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Every day I’m going to repeat myself and say about O :
Don’t ever say…….. ” He wouldn’t dare ” .

Lucano on July 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Romney @ NAALCP scared him enough to wink and hand them all sumpin’ so sweet ???

pambi on July 13, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Rascist. Seriously.

eyedoc on July 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM

So let it be written.

So let it be done.

Ben Hur on July 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM

If Obama is willing to do this sort of thing during a reelection campaign, imagine what he would do if given another term. He’ll have absolutely nothing to lose. Sure you could try to impeach him, in fact with a GOP majority in the House you might actually succeed.

But then what? You have to have 2/3 of the Senate to remove him. Fat chance.

Chilling.

Reggie1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM

While the media reflects on ’98 and talks about what an unfair partisan political move it all is.

I can hope that Romney will be elected and undertake the long process of repairing the damage. The problem with this executive order crap though, is that nobody who gets in there reverses power-grabs. They just co-opt such for their own side…

Every day I think more and more as if the only answer left is for it all to go the rest of the way to hell and be fixed with another revolution.

Gingotts on July 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Can’t the House fight back here? Are they even relevant with a President who can rule by executive order? These are dangerous precedents being set, what the hell is going on here.

At least he just handed us a new campaign issue.

Daemonocracy on July 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM

During Rick Warren’s little debate thing in the last campaign, Obama said welfare reform was the one thing that surprised him most about the opposition (how it worked) or some such thing. He just did away with it. He is so brazen…we should be able to pounce all over this stuff.

Youngs98 on July 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM

What a surprise! The Cloward Piven playbook has been dusted off once again. Maybe Mitt should make Rudy Guiliani his veep – he has a proven track record of not only halting, but reversing, the expansion of the welfare state and successfully implementing “workfare” in NYC. At the very least, he should replace Holder as A.G.

Buy Danish on July 13, 2012 at 12:01 PM

What could be the purpose of this other than simple malice on little Bammie’s part? This is Cloward-Piven, he wants to bankrupt the USA to punish us for our past sins and make the population ready for socialism.

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2012 at 12:01 PM

..He never pays a price for anything he does.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM

..On the first Tuesday of this November the bill comes due.

The War Planner on July 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Why shouldn’t Obama do this? He’s been acting like an a-hole for 3 1/2 years and he’s still leading in the polls. He never pays a price for anything he does.

Mark1971 on July 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM

I can’t understand what has happened to people. Are they too busy keeping up with the Kardashians to recognize that the Constitution is being run through a shredder?

Reggie1971 on July 13, 2012 at 12:03 PM

I didn’t realize we are living in a constitutional monarchy.
KMC1 on July 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Nothing Constitutional about it.
Also probably not really a monarchy so much as dictatorship.

dentarthurdent on July 13, 2012 at 12:04 PM

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