FBI: No racial bias in Trayvon Martin shooting
posted at 10:41 am on July 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Discovery documents released yesterday shows that the special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin shooting case has a difficult task in front of her. The presumed motive for the shooting, which defendant George Zimmerman claims was necessary to save his life, was racism. The FBI investigation ruled out that motive, NBC’s Miami affiliate reports — but that doesn’t mean Zimmerman is out of the woods yet:
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The FBI found no racial bias behind George Zimmerman’s shooting of Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin, according to dozens of documents related to the case released Thursday.
The second round of discovery documents released by prosecutors include reports from the FBI, Florida Department of Law Enforcement and State Attorney’s Office as well as photos of the crime scene, aerial photos, police calls and surveillance video related to the shooting.
Zimmerman, 28, is charged with second-degree murder for the killing of Martin, 17, in a Sanford gated community in February. He claims he shot Martin in self-defense.
The documents from the State Attorney’s Office include memorandums of interviews between investigators and witnesses, family members and officers who responded to the scene and worked on the case.
This may doom a second-degree murder case, in which there has to be some malice present prior to the killing. It doesn’t negate the possibility of a manslaughter charge, though, which doesn’t necessarily require a showing of malice. If the government has evidence that the use of lethal force was not a reasonable choice, Zimmerman could still be found guilty of manslaughter, as lethal force in self-defense can only be used when a reasonable person would conclude that it was the only way to save himself from death or grave bodily harm.
However, changing the charge from second-degree murder to manslaughter might be tough under the circumstances for the special prosecutor in this case. Technically, the FBI was working on a civil-rights case for the DoJ and not for the state’s special prosecutor, but the defense will certainly produce the FBI’s conclusion that racial bias played no part in the shooting during a second-degree murder trial. Having led with the second-degree charge, the special prosecutor’s credibility will be seriously undermined by the FBI report, and an attempt to shift the charge downward will undermine it even further. Unless the state has overwhelming evidence that the FBI missed, their case is in serious trouble.
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That used to be what parents were for, and why the government gave them tax breaks and other benefits. I guess that’s not an operable scenario anymore.
Socratease on March 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Just look to the Koran. There you’ll find your answers.
BobMbx on March 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Demtards like Moran don’t want women to defend themselves.
1) That would endanger his vicious son.
2) It would end the stream of victim sob stories used to justify their power-grabbing tyrannical control policies.
dentarthurdent on March 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM
And as luck would have it, we have this update
The “Lack of Affirmative No” defense.
Underage, intoxicated woman fails to clearly say no, ends up having “consensual sex”. This is the defense in this case.
Okay…so where’s the statutory rape charge?
BobMbx on March 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Thank you.
The best the proppressives can seem to manage is a dance around the truth that in the end they want innocent folk – including women – deprived of their right of self-defense against criminals and tyrants.
A LIE of obfuscation is still a LIE.
Galt2009 on March 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM
Galt2009, IF
we educate men NOT to rape; and as long as womyn have bladders and colons, plus access to rape whistles, they ARE prepared to deal with rape…Geeeez, you know how they are…all emotional and
Sh!te, they might just pull out a pistol and *pop*Pop*…
JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM
It’s not hypothetical when you have a tyrannical government breathing down you neck or you have perp breaking down your door in the middle of the night and the police are a lifetime away.
I suppose one reason we need to emphasize the opposition to tyranny aspect of the 2A is that we citizens need parity with our would-be oppressors.
The other aspect of this argument is that the government is Always going to have guns.
Proppressives like to play their little game of thinking that depriving the innocent of guns will somehow translate to depriving criminals of guns – that doesn’t work but they like to use that fanciful idea to push their disarmament cause.
Galt2009 on March 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Hahahaha.. That’s some good sarc there.
Galt2009 on March 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM
And no /s tag…I mean did Swift have to market “A Modest Proposal” with a /sarc tag?
My favourite so far has been the commenter here, who asked, What if blowing the “rape whistle” just brings more rapists?
JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Of course – as the Demtards in Colorado vote to ban magazines larger than 15 rounds. How did the ban on alcohol work? How have the bans on MJ, cocaine, heroin, and many other substance worked out?
This just makes more people criminals, and criminals will be able to get large magazines one way or another. The drug cartels will just add magazines into the bales of MJ and other drugs they regularly get into this country.
dentarthurdent on March 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Use a different strategy. Ban hypodermics larger than 10ml, prescriptions larger than 10 pills per refill, alcohol containers greater than 6 ozs., and rolling paper containers that have more than 3 papers.
This strategy is called “educating the people” in NY (by denying a choice).
BobMbx on March 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Consent is not what he “thinks.”
Resist We Much on March 12, 2013 at 5:55 PM
I thought the bank teller meant to give me $1,000,000! Honest! I did! It’s really, really true!
Resist We Much on March 12, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Or….just wait until married!?! Oh wait, there’s that Judeo-Christian thingy again so never mind.
Nutstuyu on March 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM
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I missed that one ! … Thanks for re-posting. : )
listens2glenn on March 12, 2013 at 7:50 PM
So someone questioned a a public servant at a public meeting?
Well, she should be thankful the public servant didn’t call 911 and accuse her of terroristic threats.
NJ Mother Pressured to Turn Over Her Guns, Charged With ‘Terroristic Threats’ After Reading the Constitution at Tax Dispute Assembly
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/12/nj-mother-forced-to-turn-over-her-guns-charged-with-terroristic-threats-after-reading-the-constitution-at-tax-dispute-assembly/
JellyToast on March 12, 2013 at 8:43 PM
Type Alert: It’s Moron, not Moran.
EdmundBurke247 on March 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM
Jeez AWFU, do you hear how stupid you sound? So does the mugger think the muggee consented because they ended up giving him their wallet anyway?
Nutstuyu on March 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM
…in stead of saying NO…more than once…shoot him inthenuts!…end of conversation!
KOOLAID2 on March 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Moran’s a perpetual piece of crap to begin with; pick a topic, any topic.
Midas on March 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM
These fools have no decency.
Schadenfreude on March 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM
…never thought about that before…spooky and very true!
MelonCollie on March 13, 2013 at 12:13 AM
It’s obvious: white democrat male knows what’s best for everyone, females and minorities included. When it comes to the reach of his power, it’s inclusive and knows no boundary.
He should just say that. It’s what he thinks.
virgo on March 13, 2013 at 12:57 AM
You elect
Moransmorons and a moron you get.Sherman1864 on March 13, 2013 at 1:18 AM
Q: “Why aren’t you pro-choice [on] self-defense for women?”
A: “We’re going to have to limit these questions.”
FTG.
Kenosha Kid on March 13, 2013 at 1:46 AM
Strawman, and a miserably weak one at that.
Conservatives aren’t claiming that guns are the solution to rape.
Conservatives are claiming that women should have the right to choose a gun if that’s their preferred solution.
Nobody is saying that all women should have a gun. Conservatives are saying that women should have the right to choose to have a gun if they want to.
Read the headline of this post. It’s about the right to choose self-defense.
Men have been taught by liberals that there are no consequences to their actions, and that all humans are free to express their sexuality any way they choose.
So, YOU have probably caused men to rape, libfreeordie.
Yes, the larger cultural issue at play here is liberalism.
When will liberals own up to it?
And when will liberals allow women the right to choose self-defense?
Look, it’s obvious that you’re losing this debate in a big way. This is why you’re being forced to use a terrible strawman argument.
You’re better off just giving this one up before you continue to embarrass yourself any further.
blink on March 13, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Seriously? This is how you’re going to accuse liberals of fostering rape culture? I didn’t think it could get any stupider than your “True Marriage Equality” shtick, but here’s a lower place.
libfreeordie on March 13, 2013 at 11:12 AM
You all do realize that rapists are not zombies right?
libfreeordie on March 13, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Liberalism really has infected Steubenville Ohio I guess. How would a gun have helped this young woman? The culprit here are two young men who have been taught that because they play football they can do whatever they want. I guess liberals are behind the worship of football culture?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57573919-504083/steubenville-rape-case-how-drunk-is-too-drunk-to-consent-to-sex/
libfreeordie on March 13, 2013 at 11:17 AM
You realize you are humour-challenged, right?
JFKY on March 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM
How would have “education” helped, though Lib? Are you saying that these players were never told that taking advantage of drunk girls was frowned upon?
And no one is claiming fire arms are THE solution, but they are A solution, but one that Moran and you seem determined to deny to womynz.
JFKY on March 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM
You really going to try to claim that you freaks on the left who want to sell g-strings to five year old girls are not to blame for this childish hyper-sexualized culture that we currently suffer under?
Remember, we on the right are sexual prudes I thought? At least according to your Hollywood inspired version of reality?
I will ask again…if your liberal Dem icons Clinton/Kennedy were not educated by the “strong”, “intelligent” leftist mothers then what could possibly be the explanation.
Your attempt to spin this the way you are makes me question your humanity, but like most hypocritical leftist woman you will claim to believe in anything as long as gubment daddy says so. Just another weak woman.
ClassicCon on March 13, 2013 at 11:44 AM
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ANY … hedonistic, “party-hearty” environment is going to be a “petri dish” for ANYTHING (rape falls under that).
ALL of the participating kids, and their PARENTS should be charged with EVERYTHING they can possibly be charged with.
Especially the parents !
listens2glenn on March 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM
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You do realize, it’s still funny though, right ?
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Oh wait …..
listens2glenn on March 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM
http://www.ebony.com/news-views/5-ways-we-can-teach-men-not-to-rape-456#axzz2NKk72o9D
libfreeordie on March 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM
And Pravda proclaimed the Arsisng of the New Soviet Man….I can summon fiery demons from the vasty deep….see we can ALL talk, that doesn’tmake the claims TRUE….
Why don’t we also teach men not to drive to fast, not to steal, not to under-pay taxes…OH WAIT we do, but it’s ahsn’t ended those scourges either.
Libfree you are a spam-bot or just a very clever Conservative, trolling to make “your” side look bad, right? Or this is a sophisticated piece of Performance Art, desgined to entertain, correct?
JFKY on March 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM
blockquote>You all do realize that rapists are not zombies right?
libfreeordie on March 13, 2013 at 11:16 AM
You do realize that rapists actually have brain problems right?
Sidestepping the fact that you’re showing no comprehension of sarcasm or dark humor – and some people are just plain bad – no matter what they’ve been taught.
The problem is a liberal mentality that the rapist can do or have whatever he wants, and liberals don’t want women to be empowered enough to be able to defend themselves. See Jim Moron’s son, Bill Clinton, the entire Kennedy clan, Eliot Spitzer, and many more examples.
Conservative men encourage the women in their lives to get guns and learn how to use them for self-defense.
Liberal men are afraid of women having guns.
What does that say about each of them?
BTW – I just helped my wife pick out her own AR-15 to go with her Draco AK pistol, and we’ve been looking over concealed carry handguns for her as well.
dentarthurdent on March 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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Hey blink, your first word (men) should be replaced with “people”.
Other than that, I’d say blink‘s comment is DEAD NUTS, RIGHT-ON ! … The (expletives)s the matter with you, libfree’ ?
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The absence of open, public recognition of God.
listens2glenn on March 13, 2013 at 1:00 PM
And yet the “black culture” does none of that. Listen to the most popular rap music and you will find exactly the opposite attitudes and behaviors being glorified.
And none of those 5 steps will prevent a deviant, disturbed man from raping if he is so inclined. Getting shot by a potential victim will definitely stop him though.
And nobody is telling any woman she MUST have a gun. Conservatives are saying women must BE ALLOWED to have a gun for self-defense if that is their CHOICE.
dentarthurdent on March 13, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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“Billy J” and Teddy would’ve been taken care of , lonnnnnnng ago.
Hell, we would have been spared the whole Clinton Presidency !
listens2glenn on March 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM
http://therapup.net/2009/04/11-rap-songs-to-disrespect-women-to/
Which one of these will young black males pay more attention to?
Tell us again where the culture problem is.
dentarthurdent on March 13, 2013 at 1:10 PM
I’ve always loved the story about Dick Armey when he was leading the investigation into the Clinton / Monica affair.
(supposedly) A reporter asked Armey what he would be doing if he was in Clinton’s shoes. Armey’s response was (supposedly) “I’d be looking up from a pool of blood while my wife said how do I reload this thing.”
My wife, who is a hot tempered, possessive Irish/Norwegian redhead, said “darn right!!!” about that story.
And I’m busy helping her buy more guns…..
(maybe I’m not so bright….)
dentarthurdent on March 13, 2013 at 1:16 PM
It’s much closer to the mark than your blame of conservatives. That attempt was just pure stupidity.
You think giving equal marital rights to every is some kind of stupid shtick?
You couldn’t get any more bigoted.
blink on March 13, 2013 at 1:24 PM
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Who do you know that is teaching these “5 ways” to any youth, any where ?
Zerlina Maxwell should take the lead ….. and head into the “urban jungles” and present these ideas to all those testosterone-loaded young men, and see what happens.
We all know exactly what’s going to happen . . . . . unless God is invoked.
Every one needs GOD to help them deal with “impulses” that they know damn well are WRONG.
Testosterone-loaded young men need God to remind them not to “think with the wrong head”.
listens2glenn on March 13, 2013 at 1:25 PM
What’s your justification for NOT giving this woman a choice to defend herself with a firearm?
Liberals are behind the concept that there are no consequences for one’s actions. Athletic heros are simply the worst offenders of what you’ve created.
blink on March 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM
It’s great that you want to teach men not to rape.
Now, please explain why you want to deny women the choice to use a firearm to defend themselves.
Is it because you hate women?
blink on March 13, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Of course it is. libtardfree is from the culture of “sometimes you just gotta slap a ho”. They sure as he11 don’t want women shooting at them when they get slapped around…..
dentarthurdent on March 13, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Now – let’s also see them just teach young black men not to shoot each other, not to drive by shootings at groups of innocent people, not to use and deal illegal drugs, not to rob innocent people, not to beat up and rob old people, etc, etc.
Let’s see how that goes…
Oh ya – it’s been tried – and it doesn’t work!!
dentarthurdent on March 13, 2013 at 1:36 PM
I think a better example might be your commentary here advocating older men being able to have their way with teenage boys.
hawkdriver on March 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM
From the Jim Moron paranoid thread in the green room:
dentarthurdent on March 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM
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