Eric Holder: Texas voter ID laws are like poll taxes

posted at 11:21 am on July 11, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Speaking at the annual conference of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Houston on Tuesday, Attorney General Eric Holder roundly criticized Texas for the voter ID law that Gov. Rick Perry signed last year in order to combat voter fraud. The U.S. Department of Justice is currently suing Texas over the law — the federal trial is scheduled to end Friday, but we probably won’t get the ruling until next month.

The NAACP is mounting their own campaign to assail state voter ID laws across the country, and the attorney general went on and on in his speech to the organization, detailing the many and abhorrent ways in which asking an individual to present a government-issued form of photo identification amounts to the very basest discrimination.

Holder said many voters would have to travel “great distances” to get a government-issued photo ID and that some would “struggle” to pay for the requisite paperwork.

“We call these poll taxes,” Holder said. …

“I don’t know what will happen as this case moves forward,” Holder said. “But I can assure you that the Justice Department’s efforts to uphold and enforce voting rights will remain aggressive.”

He also said the agency found the law “would be harmful to minority voters.”

“We will not allow political pretext to disenfranchise American citizens of their most precious rights.”

Allright, why is the mainstream media up in arms when Rep. Allen West uses the term ‘economic slavery’ to describe the culture of dependency created through the federal government’s overzealous entitlement spending, but when the sitting attorney general accuses states of actively trying to exclude minorities with laws harkening back to the days of poll taxes, it’s totally fine? Will anyone in the media call it hyperbolic, inflammatory, or perhaps just a little unfair? That Texas is maybe just the tiniest bit justified in trying to prevent the very real problem of corruption and voter fraud? I won’t hold my breath. (The NAACP, by the way, required media to show two forms of ID to enter the event — using Holder’s logic, is the NAACP trying to “disenfranchise” the media?)

So, the Justice Department is not going to allow ‘political pretext to disenfranchise American citizens,’ but they refuse to do anything productive about letting political pretext enfranchise illegal immigrants, the deceased, the nonexistent, people’s pets, and etcetera. Sweet, got it.


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Gee, it’s gonna be REALLY awkward when somebody gets around to explaining to Mr. Holder that the Supreme Court just declared Obamacare a “Poll Tax”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitation_tax

TeresainFortWorth on July 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM

I know right but what tax is Texas collecting from someone without a photo ID? And what branch of the State Government would be in charge of collecting that tax?

We know who is going to collect the tax for ACA non compliance- the IRS.

Free Riders indeed.

Dr Evil on July 11, 2012 at 12:37 PM

What I don’t understand is this.

In 2008, the Supreme Court in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181, upheld an Indiana law requiring voters to provide photo IDs did not violate the Constitution of the United States by a vote of 6-3. The majority opinion was written by uber-liberal, John Paul Stevens.

So how can E.Holder stop any state from implementing voter I.D.?

WV. Paul on July 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Remember, photo ID is a tax but ObamaCare is not a tax…

yubley on July 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM

If it doesn’t fit with the agenda –

Rename it!

TimBuk3 on July 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM

“We call these poll taxes,” Holder said.

..”Shuddup! I keeeel you!”

The War Planner on July 11, 2012 at 12:40 PM

How exactly do you cash a government check without a photo ID? If you have direct deposit, how do you OPEN an account or remove money from it without a photo ID? J-walkers in Washington DC have been arrested (at least at one time—haven’t read of an incident in recent times) for not having an ID. How do you even apply for benefits of any kind without an ID?

In a land where legal residents and their children must have a SS number and we must produce a perfect birth certificate to get our kids into kindergarden or play little league baseball, how does anyone get through anything without an ID?

Portia46 on July 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM

I don’t believe you need photo id for most government benefits. Also, the government doesn’t just cut checks. Most states (maybe all) provide you with an individual account and a debit-type card.

red_herring on July 11, 2012 at 12:41 PM

The State of Texas says STFU to the criminal Holder & his lyin’ socialist boss!

Texas #1 for businesses this year & that in spite of Obama’s war against us and other red states.

workingclass artist on July 11, 2012 at 12:41 PM

So how can E.Holder stop any state from implementing voter I.D.?

WV. Paul on July 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Because counting votes fairly in America is racism.

tetriskid on July 11, 2012 at 12:42 PM

What I don’t understand is this.

In 2008, the Supreme Court in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181, upheld an Indiana law requiring voters to provide photo IDs did not violate the Constitution of the United States by a vote of 6-3. The majority opinion was written by uber-liberal, John Paul Stevens.

So how can E.Holder stop any state from implementing voter I.D.?

WV. Paul on July 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM

I think he’s arguing that it violates the Voting Rights Act. I think Crawford is only about the Constitution.

red_herring on July 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

What bugs me no end is the presumption that there is some constitutional or human right not to have to go to any effort in order to vote.

If a citizen doesn’t have a viable “voter ID” of some sort he or she can get one with not too much effort. Why should the law essentially condone or encourage laziness? The right of states to see to it that only qualified citizens can vote clearly overrides the desire of some to be lazy or negligent and vote anyway. The standards lowering NAACP and its ilk should be ashamed of itself – or does shame for such people not exit anymore?

Chessplayer on July 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

So then Obama, his wife, and Holder, when they require IDs be shown to go to one of their appearances are actually issuing a poll tax in order to see them?

Got it. Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Holder.

I will also inform my bank when they ask for my ID, that such a requirement is akin to a poll tax also.

gravityman on July 11, 2012 at 12:45 PM

red_herring on July 11, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Well at least you’re still living up to your screen name.
Try looking up the word disenfranchise in the dictionary. It has more meanings/uses than just denying someone the right to vote.

dis·en·fran·chise/ˌdisenˈfranCHīz/Verb:
1.Deprive (someone) of the right to vote.
2.Deprived of power; marginalized.

Go find a new red herring to chase.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Showing ID to get beer? Its like a poll tax!

Showing ID to get on board an aircraft? Its like a poll tax!

Showing ID to get into the Holder presser to tell you that showing ID to vote is like a poll tax? Its a poll tax!

ajacksonian on July 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I don’t believe you need photo id for most government benefits. Also, the government doesn’t just cut checks. Most states (maybe all) provide you with an individual account and a debit-type card.

red_herring on July 11, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Which likely explains how the government has paid out $14 BILLION in invalid unemployment benefits.
When you remove requirements for valid ID, you open the door to fraud – whether for benefits or voting.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

The sad thing is that this douche is winning. He refuses to give Florida the list they need to check their state list against for eligible voters. He and his minions will scream bloody murder after the election and I can see the election results being settled in the courts like in 2000. Only this time, the left has loaded up so many courts with lefty dupes that we could lose. That’s why the Obama admin has hired 10,000 lawyers for the election folks. The ONLY way to win this thing is to turn out in huge numbers. We’ve got to get past the margin of fraud and the margin of protest for Romney to win. If you are thinking of sitting this election out folks because Romney doesn’t thrill you, I’d think again. We will need EVERY vote.

neyney on July 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

What I’m waiting for is for someone to sue the federal government on the grounds that requiring an ID to buy a gun (a constitutionally-guaranteed right) disproportionately affects minorities and the elderly and should be declared unconstitutional. The contortions DOJ would then go through should allow us to visit several new dimensions.

PersonFromPorlock on July 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

The Dems are worried that some of their voters will have to show Death Certificates with a picture.

kenny on July 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

neyney on July 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

This is going to come down to $$$ and I do believe that Romney is going to out raise Obama in campaign donations.

Dr Evil on July 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

What I’m waiting for is for someone to sue the federal government on the grounds that requiring an ID to buy a gun (a constitutionally-guaranteed right) disproportionately affects minorities and the elderly and should be declared unconstitutional.

nah, the leftists in government don’t want citizens to buy guns at all so that point is moot. Leave it to the left, though, to find a wya to declare private gun ownership unconstitutional since ID is required to buy a gun, thus disproportionately affecting minorities and the elderly.

hawkeye54 on July 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

I am a dual citizen of two countries, and I can vote in both;

in Canada, I get asked for my ID to vote and they strike out my name on a computer generated sheet with my address

in France, they ask for more, asking for 2 ID pieces, and strike out my name on a computerized sheet with my address..

You in the US, and I say this, in enormous respect to conservatives all over tehe US, are bats$$$ crzy to make this an issue

Checking ID’s to vote, Ohhh the Horror /s

Your country is NUTS!
J

Gauthijm on July 11, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Interesting.

KMC1 on July 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

When you remove requirements for valid ID, you open the door to fraud – whether for benefits or voting.

Opening the door to more fraud doesn’t really matter to the government self-serving bureaucrats. The more clients, legal or illegal, the more funding, the more their jobs are secure.

hawkeye54 on July 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

What I don’t understand is this.

In 2008, the Supreme Court in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181, upheld an Indiana law requiring voters to provide photo IDs did not violate the Constitution of the United States by a vote of 6-3. The majority opinion was written by uber-liberal, John Paul Stevens.

So how can E.Holder stop any state from implementing voter I.D.?

WV. Paul on July 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM

It isnt legal for Obama-Holder to issue work permits to a million plus illegals brought to the US under the age of 30 but he did it

Obama cannot ignore a court order on Gulf drilling but they did it

The Senate will not impeach Obama because it is owned by his party, and his party is a crooked as he is. So, we have an extra legal government

We also have a GOP top heavy with RINOs who not only fear motor voters, but crave motor voter employees. Lust for power makes the greedy turn their eyes away from illegality. Face it, Bush was crooked on immigration, and denounced those who would enforce border law

The GOP Governor of my state, Michigan, just vetoed a voterID act.

Logically Texas should ignore the Feds on the basis it feels right. Perry is the guy who said ‘in my state we dont ask where folk come from’. Guess this time around he cares

This election will decide if we have a government of law. Of course, Obama is trying to stack the vote with illegals, and his million man amnesty was part of the process, at least for blue state motor voters

Voter ID law interferes with the ones too stupid to get a state ID and register under motor voter by checking the box which says ‘I want to vote too’. A stupid voter is the perfect voter

entagor on July 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Your country is NUTS!
J
Gauthijm on July 11, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Right now, considering the people we have in charge, and with respect to the voter ID issue – I have to agree with you.

However, considering how overwhelmingly you French voters went hardcore socialist in your latest election, I have to say you should take a good hard look in your collective mirror.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 1:11 PM

The NAACP strikes me as a racist organization.

Their boyfriend/hero/god Barack Obama strikes me as a racist person. (Assuming the phrase “typical white person” is a stone-cold racist thing to say. If it’s not, would a B.O. defender please define “typical white person” for me, and then “do a brother a solvent” and also define for me “typical black person”? [If one exists, then the other also, logically, has to exist.])

And who do these NAACP promoters think they are, using the term “colored” to represent themselves? What is this, 1950?!

If I attended an NAACP convention, would the other attendees be insulted if I referred to them as “colored”?

Man, these slippery slopes sure are… well, slippery.

Dion on July 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM

When you remove requirements for valid ID, you open the door to fraud – whether for benefits or voting.

Opening the door to more fraud doesn’t really matter to the government self-serving bureaucrats. The more clients, legal or illegal, the more funding, the more their jobs are secure.

hawkeye54 on July 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Speaking of which, there’s a big brouhaha in MA about what Government EBT cards can and cannot be used for. Democrat Governor Deval Patrick just vetoed some provisions of a new overhaul for that program, and for the time being the EBT cards will still be allowed to use to purchase such necessities as tattoos, porn, and…guns!

Welfare City as usual in MA

Del Dolemonte on July 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Somebody needs to get Artur Davis on the air talking about this. One of the reasons he left the Democratic Party was because he witnessed so much voter fraud being perpetrated by Democrats in his distict in Alabama and refused to be party to it. He supports voter ID laws and thinks the civil-rights arguments againt them are bogus and actually demeaning to black people.

rockmom on July 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Dion on July 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM
LOL!
I wonder what might happen (rhetorical question) to a white person who went into that National Association for the Advancement of Colored People convention and actually said something like “I’m so happy to be here with all you fine colored people”?

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 1:19 PM

EBT cards will still be allowed to use to purchase such necessities as tattoos, porn, and…guns!

Welfare City as usual in MA

Del Dolemonte on July 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Obviously its racist to not allow people to buy those things.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM

I had to show ID just to get my daughter some sinus medication at the pharmacy last week…….
………………………dam# racist CVS.

Baxter Greene on July 11, 2012 at 1:27 PM

EBT cards will still be allowed to use to purchase such necessities as tattoos, porn, and…guns!

Welfare City as usual in MA

Del Dolemonte on July 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Obviously its racist to not allow people to buy those things.

Obviously its racist to not allow government to provide the money to allow people to buy those things.

hawkeye54 on July 11, 2012 at 1:31 PM

There are not enough words in the dictionary to describe how much I really hate that -hole Holder and all of them in the white house. Com’on Nov.

jistincase on July 11, 2012 at 1:31 PM

The NAACP, by the way, required media to show two forms of ID to enter the event — using Holder’s logic, is the NAACP trying to “disenfranchise” the media?
POSTED AT 11:21 AM ON JULY 11, 2012 BY ERIKA JOHNSEN

Ha.
There is nothing remotely analgous here.
How weak is your argument, Erika?
Cause that is some serious straw grasping.
Maybe a break from the ‘Holder beat’ is in order…

verbaluce on July 11, 2012 at 1:32 PM

TX SecState, the legislation in question, PROVIDES FREE STATE ID to those that don’t have it. IIRC, it even provides transportation to get the morons down to the DMV to get it.
Attorney General Eric Holder is LYING when he portrays the situation as anything else.

rayra on July 11, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I wonder what might happen (rhetorical question) to a white person who went into that National Association for the Advancement of Colored People convention and actually said something like “I’m so happy to be here with all you fine colored people”?

Why, that’s Joe Biden’s opening remark for tomorrow, isn’t it? You’ve peeked at his speech haven’t you?

They’ll all groan and chuckle at Slow Joe. Had Mitt said the very same thing, there would be instantaneous rioting in the aisles.

hawkeye54 on July 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Firstly, who really listens to Holder, this man has lost all credibility with most Americans and almost all Texans. I will agree with the progressives on one point, that is voter fraud is not rampant. However, it does exists and should be eliminated. On a State or National election voter fraud would hardly affect the outcome. But, when your talking local politics and it comes down to fewer than 5 votes on some occasions, then it becomes much more offensive.

DDay on July 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM

1.Apply in person at a Texas Driver License office.
2.Present documents that verify your Identity. Different documents are required if you are a U.S. citizen or have Lawful Presence. This may require you to present one or more documents at the driver license office. All information on each document you present must match. Additional documentation may be required to verify conflicting information, incomplete names and date of birth.
3.Present proof of your Texas residency.
4.Complete the application (PDF). You may type your information on the form, print it, and bring it with you to the office. If you don’t have a printer, the form is also available at the office.
5. Consent to be photographed, fingerprinted, and provide your signature at the time of application.
6.Pay the required fee with a credit card, cash, money order, or a non-temporary check.

Here are the steps for getting a Texas ID (not a drivers’ license). My mother never drove, but she had an ID to cah checks, do her banking, etc. My grandmother never drove, but she had an ID to cash checks, do her banking, etc. They aren’t hard to get. But I think requirement #2 is the rub as far as Holder is concerned.

kbTexan on July 11, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I will agree with the progressives on one point, that is voter fraud is not rampant.

DDay on July 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM

How would we know if we have no way of verifying who is voting and whether they are qualified to do so? I’m bettng it’s a lot more common than we want to believe. Otherwise, the Democrats wouldn’t be fighting it so hard.

kbTexan on July 11, 2012 at 1:49 PM

“We call these poll taxes,” Holder said.

..”Shuddup! SILENCE! I keeeel you!”

The War Planner on July 11, 2012 at 12:40 PM

*no CHARGE* hehehehehehehe

Katfish on July 11, 2012 at 1:55 PM

kbTexan on July 11, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I don’t know kb, I believe voter fraud would be caught during local elections. Especially when you have two Democrats running against each other. Either way, voter id is a step in the right direction. I say no harm, no foul.

DDay on July 11, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I don’t believe you need photo id for most government benefits. Also, the government doesn’t just cut checks. Most states (maybe all) provide you with an individual account and a debit-type card.

red_herring on July 11, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Let me get this straight. I just walk into the welfare office, say I’m Katie Barthedoor and they give me a card to go spend as I wish? Please tell me this is a joke. Does someone know how to contact John O’Keefe?

Portia46 on July 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM

ERIC HOLDER IS A RACIST!

Delsa on July 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM

In Israel, everyone has a state-issued photo ID called a Teudat Zehut. By law, you must carry it with you at all times. The ID is issued free of charge to all citizens. When there are elections, you show your Teudat Zehut, your name is checked off on an electronic system so you can’t vote twice in two polling stations, and you vote.

Now I understand that anytime anyone comes up with the idea of free, state-sponsored ID that must be carried around at all times in the US, people scream “Gestapo!”.

But if “Gestapo!” type demagoguery hasn’t stopped Israel, of all countries, from implementing free and mandatory state ID then by God what right does the US have to attack the system as such?!

solatic on July 11, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Especially when you have two Democrats running against each other.
DDay on July 11, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I could see the confusion by the Dims in that situation when 12,000 people vote in a town with a population of only 2000.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM

verbaluce on July 11, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Your confusion is understandable since you liberals never seem able to see hypocrisy when it stares at you in the mirror.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Geez anyone besides me hear the dang crickets chirping when folks have to show an I.D. to get there freakin SSI disability checks cashed at the damned liquor store??????????????????????/

Katfish on July 11, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Eric Holder: Texas voter ID laws are like poll taxes

…lying reprobate holder’s SLIGHT OMISSION: ANY US Citizen in Texas can get a government ID valid for voting purposes absolutely, totally, completely, 100% FREE. That’s right, it will cost them NOTHING, ZERO, ZIP, al “race-baiter” sharpton’s IQ, ZILCH, The NULL Set, NADA, FURGETABOUTIT…

TeaPartyNation on July 11, 2012 at 2:17 PM

but they refuse to do anything productive about letting political pretext enfranchise illegal immigrants, the deceased, the nonexistent, people’s pets, and etcetera.

hey! don’t forget the dead pets. no way will eric holder ever allow your dead pets to be disenfranchised by whitey righty! he’s a crusader for the justices like that… a selfless crusader for all that is socially just.

why doesn’t anyone stop to consider how racist it is to imply that ‘minorities’ are too stupid, ignorant and without the wherewith all to manage to obtain an ID? is eric holder saying minorities are naturally below average in intelligence and common sense-genetically and emotionally perpetually helpless babies?

right now i could, in about 5 minutes, make contact to purchase a new identity, complete with SSN, from a source that provides them to illegal aliens. hapless dopey teenagers and college students manage to get fake IDs to drink and go clubbing but adult minorities are incapable of securing even one picture ID? funny- no one seems to have a problem getting that picture ID for welfare and food stamps.

no one ever seems to have a problem getting an ID so they can drink or get welfare benefits but the instant the ID is necessary for the privilege- because if you are NOT a citizen and not alive voting is not your right- and responsibility of voting, they’re lost confused and need eric holder to protect them?

mittens on July 11, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Everything is race with these two, Obama and Holder. They are the two most despicable and loathsome people I can even fathom at this point.

tom daschle concerned on July 11, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Anyone find the irony that he gave this speech in Houston (Harris County), Texas? Courtesy of the work by True the Vote:

Their work paid off. Two weeks ago the Harris County voter registrar took their work and the findings of his own investigation and handed them over to both the Texas secretary of state’s office and the Harris County district attorney.

Most of the findings focused on a group called Houston Votes, a voter registration group headed by Sean Caddle, who also worked for the Service Employees International Union before coming to Houston. Among the findings were that only 1,793 of the 25,000 registrations the group submitted appeared to be valid.

2nd Ammendment Mother on July 11, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Get out of my sight, Holder, you pathetic liar.

Shouldn’t you be fitted for your orange jumpsuit right about now?

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on July 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Grrrr! Hisssss! Spit! Growl!
*Glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on July 11, 2012 at 2:40 PM

LOL. If illegal aliens and felons leaned Republican you wouldn’t be able to vote in this country without a retinal scan.

Kataklysmic on July 11, 2012 at 11:41 AM

————-

Thread winner by far!!!

And yes, France is an even worse mess
wonderful.. Lusitania vs Titanic, nice contest!

Your point is valid, french voters in almost their rntirety are idiots

In the US, Only 52.7% are (Obama’s victory percentage in 2008)

TC
J

Gauthijm on July 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

2nd Ammendment Mother on July 11, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Is Sean Caddle originally from Chicago?
He’s really good at that Dem voter registration stuff…../

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM

I could see the confusion by the Dims in that situation when 12,000 people vote in a town with a population of only 2000.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM

LOL. Trust me, I have seen a lot and your joke is closer to the truth than you might know. Write-ins from dead people could account for the additional 10,000 people.

DDay on July 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

LOL. Trust me, I have seen a lot and your joke is closer to the truth than you might know. Write-ins from dead people could account for the additional 10,000 people.

DDay on July 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Are you from Houston? (or Chicago?)

Most of the findings focused on a group called Houston Votes, a voter registration group headed by Sean Caddle, who also worked for the Service Employees International Union before coming to Houston. Among the findings were that only 1,793 of the 25,000 registrations the group submitted appeared to be valid.

2nd Ammendment Mother on July 11, 2012 at 2:25 PM

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Lets just say I live south of Houston. I don’t doubt the study that found so many registrations to be invalid. But, again in a State with the populace as large as ours, 23,207 votes would be a drop in the bucket and that’s if they all did actually vote. As I stated earlier, voter fraud affects local and county elections more significantly. As for myself, I always insist that they check my identification.

DDay on July 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

entagor on July 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Michigan still has a Voter ID law and has for several years.

Governor Snyder vetoed a proposal requiring a photo ID for absentee voting. The logic was that the proposal was too confusing for those voting absentee.

Snyder also vetoed a proposal that would require voters to affirm their U.S. citizenship before receiving ballots. There is already a block on the ballot application where the voter must affirm they are a citizen, so I’m not sure about this proposal.

My wife is a Full-time Township Clerk and is responsible for administering elections in the Township. I have worked as a Precinct Chair during elections (but cannot whenever she is on the ballot). Prior to the Voter ID requirement, we would have many voters come in an want to show their ID (all were Rebublicans – during the primaries they would have to declare which ballot they wanted). We politely told them it was not required. They were not happy. They wanted to prevent voter fraud. Since implementation of the Voter ID law, the only complaints have come from Democrats. Usually with a snide remark about suppressing the vote. We have been trained not to reply, but just smile at them.

GAlpha10 on July 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM

6.Pay the required fee with a credit card, cash, money order, or a non-temporary check.

Here are the steps for getting a Texas ID (not a drivers’ license). My mother never drove, but she had an ID to cah checks, do her banking, etc. My grandmother never drove, but she had an ID to cash checks, do her banking, etc. They aren’t hard to get. But I think requirement #2 is the rub as far as Holder is concerned.

kbTexan on July 11, 2012 at 1:46 PM

The rub, as you put it, is number 6. Their argument is that if you can’t afford the fee for the ID, you can’t vote, disenfranchising those too poor to pay the fee. I don’t know what the fee is, but I can’t imagine even the poorest person not being able to scrape it together once every how many years so they have it for the MYRIAD of things they need it for, like cashing checks and going to Obama events (I’d call them rallies, but then he’d have to be back in venues bigger than the local family restaurant).

So their argument is that having to spend ANY money in order to vote is discriminatory against the poor. He also wants to stereotype minorities as being extra likely to be too poor to do this. If that’s the case, the simple change states can make is that it costs a fee for a DRIVER’s license, but a no-driving-allowed ID is FREE. Bump driver’s license fees up one dollar each renewal and should easily cover the non-driver ones.

In today’s world the argument that they can’t get to the DMV or other licensing agency is absurd. Busses, friends, “community organizing” groups would all happily transport them. The “I can’t vote because I couldn’t get to the DMV” argument is bogus BS!

PastorJon on July 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

I have to show an ID to pick up my kids from our public school, even though we’ve been going there for several years and everyone knows me by sight. So all of the low income and minority parents have to as well. But they can’t be required to show an ID to vote? Absolutely ridiculous.

toby11 on July 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

In today’s world the argument that they can’t get to the DMV or other licensing agency is absurd. Busses, friends, “community organizing” groups would all happily transport them. The “I can’t vote because I couldn’t get to the DMV” argument is bogus BS!

PastorJon on July 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Exactly. And if they can’t get to DMV, how do they get to the polls to vote?

toby11 on July 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM

They wanted to prevent voter fraud. Since implementation of the Voter ID law, the only complaints have come from Democrats. Usually with a snide remark about suppressing the vote. We have been trained not to reply, but just smile at them.

GAlpha10 on July 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Right, because the GOP does SOOOO well in Michigan. If ever there was proof Voter ID laws don’t suppress the liberal vote . . .

PastorJon on July 11, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Exactly. And if they can’t get to DMV, how do they get to the polls to vote?

toby11 on July 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Hate to keep playing devil’s advocate, since we agree, but the polling places are everywhere, while there’s maybe one or two DMV’s per city. They can usually walk to the school or church or whatever where they vote.

However, the argument that they CAN get to the DMV still stands too

PastorJon on July 11, 2012 at 3:42 PM

I have to show an ID to pick up my kids from our public school, even though we’ve been going there for several years and everyone knows me by sight. So all of the low income and minority parents have to as well. But they can’t be required to show an ID to vote? Absolutely ridiculous.

toby11 on July 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

The lib trolls in here will try to say you don’t have a “Constitutional right” to have kids, or have kids in school, or pick up kids from school – so it’s not the same thing.
The libtards fail to see their own hypocrisy and idiocy in continuing the same lame arguments.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Hate to keep playing devil’s advocate, since we agree, but the polling places are everywhere, while there’s maybe one or two DMV’s per city. They can usually walk to the school or church or whatever where they vote.

However, the argument that they CAN get to the DMV still stands too

PastorJon on July 11, 2012 at 3:42 PM

There is no end to the lib strawmen. They would say a minority quadraplegic confined to their bedroom wouldn’t be able to vote if ID was required even if the DMV hand delivered a driver’s license and you put the polling station in their living room.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM

The U.S. Department of Justice is currently suing Texas over the law — the federal trial is scheduled to end Friday…

This will be exciting with the new Chief Justice John Roberts precedent whereby the judges can rewrite laws to please themselves.

RJL on July 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Dion on July 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM
LOL!
I wonder what might happen (rhetorical question) to a white person who went into that National Association for the Advancement of Colored People convention and actually said something like “I’m so happy to be here with all you fine colored people”?

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 1:19 PM

ehemmm…
“The Race Riot of 1908 in Abraham Lincoln’s hometown of Springfield, Illinois had highlighted the urgent need for an effective civil rights organization in the U.S. This event is often cited as the catalyst for the formation of the NAACP. Mary White Ovington, journalist William English Walling and Henry Moskowitz met in New York City in January 1909 and the NAACP was born.[10] Solicitations for support went out to more than 60 prominent Americans, and a meeting date was set for February 12, 1909…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People

These three founders were white…the rest of the early members jumped on board after they raised the seed money

workingclass artist on July 11, 2012 at 4:43 PM

workingclass artist on July 11, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Ok – granted.
But I think you may have missed the irony of what I was saying/insinuating about the use of the term colored.

dentarthurdent on July 11, 2012 at 5:51 PM

I don’t believe you need photo id for most government benefits. Also, the government doesn’t just cut checks. Most states (maybe all) provide you with an individual account and a debit-type card.

red_herring on July 11, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Let me get this straight. I just walk into the welfare office, say I’m Katie Barthedoor and they give me a card to go spend as I wish? Please tell me this is a joke. Does someone know how to contact John O’Keefe?

Portia46 on July 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Big surprise…no response from red.

Holder’s an arse and the fact that we are even having to have this debate is arsinine.

CW on July 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM

nah, the leftists in government don’t want citizens to buy guns at all so that point is moot. Leave it to the left, though, to find a [way] to declare private gun ownership unconstitutional since ID is required to buy a gun, thus disproportionately affecting minorities and the elderly.

hawkeye54 on July 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Sir or Madam, that is magnificently perverse! I abase myself.

PersonFromPorlock on July 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM

HOLDER=JAIL

TX-96 on July 11, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Let him come to Florida (that also requires an ID) and say that same BS in a swing state.

elfman on July 11, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Every time Holder touts this line, he should be asked why he wants to allow people to cheat by fraudulent voting.

/Just another example of if a Republican were doing this, what would the presstitutes be asking.

AZfederalist on July 11, 2012 at 10:36 PM

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