CNN poll shows majority approves of Holder contempt vote

posted at 10:01 am on July 9, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Last week, Eric Holder tried to argue that the effort by the House to hold him in civil and criminal contempt of Congress for his refusal to comply with subpoenas for documents related to Operation Fast and Furious was nothing more than a proxy attack on Barack Obama:

“I’ve become a symbol of what they don’t like about the positions this Justice Department has taken,” he said. “I am also a proxy for the president in an election year. You have to be exceedingly naive to think that vote was about . . . documents.”

Well, according to a new poll by CNN of general-population adults, a majority of Americans is … exceedingly naive.  They apparently still believe that government officials have to comply with subpoenas just like the rest of the hoi polloi:

Most Americans approve of the decision by the House of Representatives to censure Attorney General Eric Holder, but a new national poll also indicates that a majority of the public thinks that House Republicans are investigating Holder to gain political advantage.

According to a CNN/ORC International survey released Monday morning, 53% of people questioned say they approve of the House vote a week and a half ago to hold the attorney general in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over documents related to a controversial program called Operation Fast and Furious, with one in three saying they disapprove of the move and 13% unsure.

More than two-thirds want more answers on the ATF operation that cost the lives of two American law-enforcement officers and hundreds of Mexicans as well:

Nearly seven in 10 say the Obama administration should answer all questions, with 27% agreeing with the move to invoke executive privilege.

The numbers are about the same for Holder and Obama among registered voters.  The gap on approval for the contempt citation rises slightly to 54/32 among RVs, while slightly less want Obama to stop hiding behind executive privilege, 32/68 rather than 27/69 in the general population.  Independents hit right on the overall split for the Holder contempt citation, 54/33, and a bit stronger on opposition to executive privilege, 25/72. Non-white voters are less convinced but still break toward support for the contempt citation (45/40) and, more clearly, opposition to the assertion of executive privilege in this case (36/59).

Obama also has big problems in two of his core constituencies.  Younger voters oppose executive privilege just as strongly as independents, 23/72, and back the contempt citation 58/27, even more strongly than the other two age demos.  Low-income voters also support the contempt citation (51/34) and oppose executive privilege (23/72) by wide margins. That’s a danger sign for Obama as he tries to convince the 18-34 crowd that he still represents hope and change.  Asserting executive privilege to keep documents from Congressional investigators clearly isn’t going to impress them on that score.

Generally speaking, Americans expect government officials to obey the same laws to which we all are subject.  Trying to sell that as “naïveté” has flopped.


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Racists, all of them are racists.

Grunt on July 9, 2012 at 10:04 AM

why do we never hear the name of the second border patrol agent?

Donald Draper on July 9, 2012 at 10:06 AM

I hope Holder ends up in a Federal Meercat Manor.

Fallon on July 9, 2012 at 10:06 AM

There comes a point where you have had enough lies.

docflash on July 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM

How many more will want answers when they find out it isn’t just one border patrol agent that is dead, but at least a couple hundred dead Mexican citizens.

Now here come the trolls to tell us how those Mexican would’ve been killed anyway.

oldroy on July 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Holder lied and has kept documents from public view. He put into place a program that led to the murder of 2 federal agents and 200 Mexicans and that tried to subvert a Constitutional right of American citizens. His failure to be forthright has found him in a position to be held in contempt of Congress–an outcome that he chose. He should be stripped of his position, disbarred, and tried in a criminal court.

ted c on July 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM

why do we never hear the name of the second border patrol agent?

Donald Draper on July 9, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Jaime Zapata. ICE agent. Killed in Mexico.

oldroy on July 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Now here come the trolls to tell us how those Mexican would’ve been killed anyway.

oldroy on July 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Minorities are expendable.

/lib

CurtZHP on July 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM

When Holder is in federal care, I hope his cellmate will be a 6’8″ Jose who lost his family to drug cartels. Sometimes justice adopts very unusual shapes.

Archivarix on July 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM

What’s next regarding the contempt charges? The shit’s there, I just hope the fan gets turned on before the election.

Violina23 on July 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM

A President that can’t lead and a justice department that won’t prosecute.
What an administration.

TimBuk3 on July 9, 2012 at 10:13 AM

CNN poll shows majority approves of Holder contempt vote

…well Holder doesn’t approve!…so as in the past…the “majority” may as well just fart into the wind!

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2012 at 10:17 AM

“I am also a proxy for the president in an election year. You have to be exceedingly naive to think that vote was about . . . documents.”

Well no shiite, everyone can figure out this is simply about Holder’s skin color and nothing more. So a couple of American LE officers and 300+ Mexicans get blown away because of a horrifying scheme to subvert the 2nd Amendment, whatever no big deal. But keeping the black man down, now THAT is important stuff.

Bishop on July 9, 2012 at 10:18 AM

A President that can’t lead and a justice department that won’t prosecute…

TimBuk3 on July 9, 2012 at 10:13 AM

…And a national news media that covers for them in every possible way no matter how ludicrous the excuses.

Liam on July 9, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Well, it looks like Obama should be worried about the implications of Gunwalkergate after all.

Chip on July 9, 2012 at 10:20 AM

+1 timbuk

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 10:21 AM

When it’s “safe” to answer polls against the administration, people do so. When it’s obviously not “safe” they are totally for Barry, aka massage the message.

vityas on July 9, 2012 at 10:22 AM

I hope Holder ends up in a Mexican Jail. That is outside Obama’s Pardon Power.

Issa could ask if the Pardons are already written awaiting Obama’s signature.

meci on July 9, 2012 at 10:23 AM

What’s next regarding the contempt charges? The shit’s there, I just hope the fan gets turned on before the election.

Violina23 on July 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Representative Trey Gowdy discusses that here.

GOP Rep. Gowdy: “If I Was Inspector General I Would Plan For A Very Long Day On Capitol Hill”

Flora Duh on July 9, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Obama also has big problems in two of his core constituencies.

Perhaps, but they’ll still vote for him in droves.

KS Rex on July 9, 2012 at 10:30 AM

New polls out today aren’t being kind to Obummer.

HotAirian on July 9, 2012 at 10:30 AM

If F&F had happened under Booooosh! the AG would have already been fired and there would have been 24/7 hyperventilating news coverage, massive protests by the ‘latino’ community (La Raza) etc.

I despise the media more than I do liberal politicians.

gwelf on July 9, 2012 at 10:33 AM

But keeping the black man down, now THAT is important stuff.

Bishop on July 9, 2012 at 10:18 AM

It is your basic racist nature that keeps you from appreciating the trials and tribulations of being a black cabinet appointee or a black multimillionaire most powerful man on the planet. Shame.

SKYFOX on July 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM

If F&F had happened under Booooosh! the AG would have already been fired and there would have been 24/7 hyperventilating news coverage, massive protests by the ‘latino’ community (La Raza) etc…

gwelf on July 9, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Reminds me of the RCP headline I saw when I clicked Flora Duh’s link above … “Garofalo: There’s A Difference Between Criticizing Bush And Obama” … needless to say, I didn’t click it, since I’m eating breakfast now.

KS Rex on July 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM

It is your basic racist nature that keeps you from appreciating the trials and tribulations of being a black cabinet appointee or a black multimillionaire most powerful man on the planet. Shame.

SKYFOX on July 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Only if I’m white, otherwise there are some credentials which need to be revoked which would then make me an inauthentic colored dude.

Bishop on July 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM

BTW, I don’t know about the contempt vote, but I do approve of Holder living in a cardboard box behind an IHOP in Maryland…or in a federal prison. I’ll take either one.

SKYFOX on July 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM

I do approve of Holder living in a cardboard box behind an IHOP in Maryland…

SKYFOX on July 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM

No, no, no. Then he’ll be dumpster diving for the discarded Rooty Tooty Fresh ‘N Fruity®. That’s too good for him.

Flora Duh on July 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM

BTW, I don’t know about the contempt vote, but I do approve of Holder living in a cardboard box behind an IHOP in Maryland…or in a federal prison. I’ll take either one.

SKYFOX on July 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM

More likely: he gets disbarred but Soros puts him on permanent retainer at the Hague or the UN.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on July 9, 2012 at 10:49 AM

I would like to remind the AG and any other libs/media/pols that Zero is only half black and any opposition that I have to him is directed solely at his white half. Thus I am not a racist. As for the AG himself, he is one of the smarmiest, slimiest wordsmiths to have ever disgraced your office (nope, don’t see anything in there about race…). The only appropriate punishment for this scum is life in prison in shackles (right hand to left ankle).

ghostwalker1 on July 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM

HotAiren,
That poll was taken over the weekend .
Republicians don’t poll so well on weekends .
Must have something to do with ” having a
life ” .

Lucano on July 9, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Murdergate

kurtzz3 on July 9, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Somebody ask SOS Hillary if she can fast track sleazy Holder’s extradition to Mexico for multiple homicides.

viking01 on July 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Since this is a CNN poll you can add 20 points to that figure to get a glimmer of what the real Average American thinks on account of how heavily Leftists are represented in CNN polls.

Browncoatone on July 9, 2012 at 11:42 AM

viking01 on July 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Lil ol’ Hillary is involved in Fast&Furious as deeply as d’ohbama and holder.
She’s just been able to cover her tracks better than they have…..so far.

Solaratov on July 9, 2012 at 11:44 AM

In case you haven’t seen it yet…

Formal complaint seeks disbarment of Eric Holder in DC

Last week, the bloggers who first exposed Operation Fast and Furious, Mike Vanderboegh and David Codrea, filed a formal complaint with the Washington, D.C. Office of Bar Counsel alleging that Holder committed “professional misconduct” during the congressional investigation into the scandal.

petefrt on July 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Flora Duh on July 9, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Gotta agree with Greta. The civil contempt proceedings should have been ready to file the next day. In the real world, where Greta spent some time doing actual lawyering, it would have been or heads would have been rolling. It isn’t rocket science, the initial filings only have to put the administration on notice of the basic nature of the claims, and it ought to be on file already.

novaculus on July 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

There is something seriously wrong when the top law enforcement officer of the nation takes the Fifth.

pat on July 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Now this is the kind of opinion poll that means something. It means that people seem to be paying attention and seem not to like what they are learning.

yhxqqsn on July 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM

The same poll also says 61% thinks the investigation was political and not about ethics. The breakdown is totally partisan, of course. Everything is…

stingray9813 on July 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Now here come the trolls to tell us how those Mexican would’ve been killed anyway.

oldroy on July 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Minorities are expendable.

/lib

CurtZHP on July 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM

…unless they are in our country as illegal aliens and potential democratic party voters, then the victimology dominates.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM

People are finally starting to get an inkling of a clue. Wait til they start getting a whiff of “Operation Castaway” and the other ops run under the same F&F tactics of Gun Walking.

Operation Castaway was a much sweeter op, the Tampa,Fl. field office of the ATF only gave automatic weapons to the most murderous gang in the world, MS-13(google them to see what sweethearts our govt. was arming).

God Bless America!

paratisi on July 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

A President that can’t lead and a justice department that won’t prosecute.
What an administration.

TimBuk3 on July 9, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Withholding documents isn’t a crime. You have to have committed a crime to be prosecuted by the Justice Dept.

stingray9813 on July 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Gotta agree with Greta. The civil contempt proceedings should have been ready to file the next day. In the real world, where Greta spent some time doing actual lawyering, it would have been or heads would have been rolling. It isn’t rocket science, the initial filings only have to put the administration on notice of the basic nature of the claims, and it ought to be on file already.

novaculus on July 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Is it possible something else is going on, behind the scenes, to explain the delay? I admit it’s not easy for me to believe that incompetence alone deserves the credit…

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:15 PM

How many more will want answers when they find out it isn’t just one border patrol agent that is dead, but at least a couple hundred dead Mexican citizens.

Now here come the trolls to tell us how those Mexican would’ve been killed anyway.

oldroy on July 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Two American citizens that we KNOW of – don’t forget Jamie Zapata.

But it’s all political, even though the Zapata family have filed a lawsuit and Brian Terry’s mother has been all over the place trying to shame this government into coughing up some information.

kim roy on July 9, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Gotta agree with Greta. The civil contempt proceedings should have been ready to file the next day. In the real world, where Greta spent some time doing actual lawyering, it would have been or heads would have been rolling. It isn’t rocket science, the initial filings only have to put the administration on notice of the basic nature of the claims, and it ought to be on file already.

novaculus on July 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Is it possible something else is going on, behind the scenes, to explain the delay? I admit it’s not easy for me to believe that incompetence alone deserves the credit…

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:15 PM

The contempt vote also allocated funding to hire a lawyer to take it to court, so I assume that’s in the process. Once you file, your filing isn’t processed instantly. Once it is you get a court date. Who knows when that will be. Friendly judge means next February.

Darrell Issa is a pitbull, once his jaws lock on something he don’t let go.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Darrell Issa is a pitbull, once his jaws lock on something he don’t let go.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Yes he is. So are Chaffetz and Gowdy, among others – that’s why I haven’t been worrying at all about them letting us down.

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM

why do we never hear the name of the second border patrol agent?

Donald Draper on July 9, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Jaime Zapata. ICE agent. Killed in Mexico.

oldroy on July 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Because its potentially 100x more explosive than Brian Terry, if anyone ever bothered to investigate it.

Zapatas’ name is on a report investigating some murders where F&F guns were recovered.

He and his partners killing in Mexico looked like a ‘hit’, from the first second the news broke. They were just over the border, and were blockaded, run down and gunned down. Its was odd because that was not the drug gangs MO. Thats the last anything was ever said of that.

orbitalair on July 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Because its potentially 100x more explosive than Brian Terry, if anyone ever bothered to investigate it.

Zapatas’ name is on a report investigating some murders where F&F guns were recovered.

He and his partners killing in Mexico looked like a ‘hit’, from the first second the news broke. They were just over the border, and were blockaded, run down and gunned down. Its was odd because that was not the drug gangs MO. Thats the last anything was ever said of that.

orbitalair on July 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM

I have run across posts where the possibility of him being set up was mentioned. No mention of evidence, but smoke –> fire…?

LooseCannon on July 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Two-thirds want answers from Obama administration on Operation Fast and Furious.

Member of the 67%.

IrishEyes on July 9, 2012 at 9:39 PM