Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on July 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

President Obama’s bus tour through Ohio and Pennsylvania late last week offered a striking look at the evolution of a president. In 2008, Obama used soaring rhetoric and personal biography to talk about binding together a red-blue nation. His message today is about the urgent need to defeat a stubborn opposition party in order to move the country forward…

That is a change from the way he talked as a candidate in 2008. His message then was not so much about either-or choices. That was not the message he delivered when he first appeared on the national stage at the 2004 Democratic convention, nor was it the message he offered the night he scored his breakthrough victory in the 2008 Iowa caucuses that launched him toward the White House. He did not talk about elections as tiebreakers between two sides but of a country hungering for a new model for its politics…

Many Democrats say it’s about time that the president got tough, that he spent too much time trying to negotiate with Republicans who weren’t interested in negotiating with him.

***

It’s nothing like the first campaign, the former Illinois state legislator and U.S. senator said — when he and his wife circulated fliers printed at Kinko’s.

It sure isn’t…

Off the 68,443 ads that Obama has run on TV (local broadcast, national network & national cable) in the 30-day period ended July 2, 52,016 had an “anti-Romney message” — 76 percent of the total, according to New York-based Kantar Media’s CMAG, which monitors campaign advertising.

Obama’s negative ads have overtaken his positive ads. Since April 10, when Republican Rick Santorum’s exit essentially made Romney his party’s presumptive nominee, Obama has run 112,202 ads, of which 58,151 were anti-Romney and 54,051 positive.

***

Of the 17 TV advertisements Obama has aired here [in Iowa], eight have pummeled Romney’s resume as a governor of Massachusetts and founder of a large private equity firm. Increasingly, the ads have pressed the outsourcing hot button, although independent fact checkers have dressed down that attack as using false or thinly supported claims.

Republicans call it a smear campaign, arguing Romney was not responsible for what companies did after he left Bain Capital. Indeed, they point to Obama as an outsourcer, citing him as responsible for jobs sent overseas by companies who received federal stimulus money.

***

Top Democrats repeatedly slammed Mitt Romney on Sunday for his foreign wheelings and dealings, as President Obama’s campaign continues to make the case that the presumptive GOP nominee doesn’t understand the concerns of the middle class…

“He is the first and only candidate for President of the United States with a Swiss bank account, with tax shelters, with tax avoidance schemes that involve so many foreign countries,” Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

“When it comes down to his Swiss bank account, there is just no way to explain it,” Durbin added. “You either get a Swiss bank account to conceal what you are doing or you believe the Swiss franc is stronger than the American dollar.”

***

Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley (Md.) hammered Mitt Romney on Sunday over a report detailing his use of offshore accounts, saying the presumptive GOP nominee had “bet against America.”

“He bet against America when he put his money in Swiss bank accounts and tax havens and shelters and also set up a secret company, the shell company in Bermuda, which, by the way, in order to avoid disclosure, he put in his wife’s name right before he became governor of Massachusetts,” O’Malley charged.

His comments come after a Vanity Fair report released last week said Romney’s financial advisers formed a corporation in Bermuda and the GOP candidate maintained holdings in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

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“Being rich is not a problem,” said Bob Shrum, a Democratic consultant who helped Senator Edward M. Kennedy defeat Mr. Romney in their 1994 Senate race in Massachusetts. “Being rich and out of touch is a problem.”

Mr. Romney’s campaign has pushed back hard against some of the wealth-themed attacks, which have included assertions that at Bain he enriched himself by promoting the outsourcing of American jobs. Increasingly the Romney campaign is turning Mr. Obama’s attacks back on him by suggesting that the president is in denial about his record and is out of touch with the economic strains felt by most Americans.

“They just can’t come to grips with the reality of what’s happening out there and the president’s responsibility for it,” said [Stuart] Stevens, [a Romney] campaign strategist.

***

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Obama campaign senior adviser Robert Gibbs said Sunday that Americans simply don’t know enough about Mitt Romney’s finances to determine if he’s doing anything illegal.

“We don’t know. Nobody knows,” the former White House press secretary said on CNN’s “State of the Union” when asked if the presumptive Republican presidential nominee was skirting tax law.

“The one thing he can do, Candy, to clear up whether or not he’s done anything illegally, whether he’s shielding his income from taxes in Bermuda or Switzerland, is to do what ever other presidential candidate is done and that’s to release a series of years of their own tax returns,” Gibbs told host Candy Crowley.

***

This president has already shown that he’s not who he said he was. He claimed he was going to bring everyone together, he was going to be this uniter. He’s been the most divisive, nasty, negative campaigner this country’s ever seen without running any positive ads.

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Del is an excellent commenter. Funny too.

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Del is a facts machine!

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Don’t hate, parmesan and gorgonzola dolcelatte cheese sauce, fried bacon + green onion + pasta and bread crumbs = amazing. Do not sleep on the cooking skills.

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Wow, the campaign is seriously scared enough to unleash you to release you to put out this drivel this early in the cycle, huh? Excellent! Loves me the smell of Barryish fear in the morning….nooon…and night….LOL!

ManWithNoParty on July 9, 2012 at 12:51 AM

“Noon”.;

ManWithNoParty on July 9, 2012 at 12:52 AM

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 12:49 AM

+ 100..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Congratulations! We’ll be at the barricades, together, but after that you owe them nothing.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 12:50 AM

That did work. Red Ryder, Lunitic Fringe. ; ) funny.

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 12:53 AM

ITguy on July 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Very good.

Terrye on July 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM

To allow the Bush Tax Cuts to expire would be irresponsible.

ITguy on July 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Thanks for that info.

bluefox on July 9, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Thank you both for the feedback. Please share this with people you know. The media constantly lies and claims that the Bush Tax Cuts are contributing to our deficits. That’s simply not true. The Bush Tax cuts INCREASED revenues, in no small part because they INCREASED employment. Two things that TARP and “Stimulus” FAILED to do. Increasing taxes now would lead to a double dip recession.

ITguy on July 9, 2012 at 12:54 AM

I hope you will be happy if your side convinces sufficient people to vote for Johnson to the point that Obama wins re-election.

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 12:37 AM

And I hope you will be happy if your side convinces sufficient people to vote for the new boss, same as the old boss.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2012 at 12:54 AM

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 12:21 AM

…E X A C T L Y …!!!

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Floating Rock isn’t the difference between winning and losing. The people subject to the influence of campaign advertising are.

wolfsDad on July 9, 2012 at 12:47 AM

And according to Rasmussen, there are only about 6% of the voters left to influence:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows both Mitt Romney and President Obama attracting 45% of the vote. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.

Jay Cost (RCP) has been arguing for some time that each party has a 45% “floor.” The winner of this election will be the guy who captures 5% of the “undecideds.” Someone described: a game of inches.

de rigueur on July 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

bayview,

“I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others. I covet no man’s soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.”

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Meanwhile you all act like those who inherited their wealth have as much to be proud about as the guy who comes from nothing.

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Funny thing, all that stuff you claim to be doing to hurt the people who inherit wealth (well, except for the Kennedy’s, the Gores, the Heinz-Kerry’s and the like, I guess their inherited wealth is the “good” kind of inherited wealth) wind up hurting people who are not wealthy. Your policies hurt people who spent their lives on their parents’ farms or working in their parents’ businesses, often causing them to have to sell the farm or business to pay the inheritance taxes. Yet the Kennedy’s, Gores, Heinz-Kerry’s, etc. still remain rich and don’t seem to be burdened by those policies.

So I’m a little tired of the old saw about making the “rich pay their fair share” crap when all of those policies always seem to flow down to middle-class people bearing the brunt of the burden.

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Amen to that.

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Non-partisan genius. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCSav4UrBPI

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 12:58 AM

And I hope you will be happy if your side convinces sufficient people to vote for the new boss, same as the old boss.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2012 at 12:54 AM

I have yet to see an electable option out of you, as much as the caterwauling seems to take over these threads. Got one for us? Remember, electable. now…

ManWithNoParty on July 9, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Jay Cost (RCP)…

de rigueur on July 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

He moved.

Jay Cost is a staff writer for The Weekly Standard and the author of Spoiled Rotten, a critical history of the Democratic party, forthcoming from Broadside Books.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Remember Ross Perot? Twice?

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Perot came within a meltdown of defeating G.H.W. and Clinton. Johnson’s name i.d. isn’t approaching H. Ross’ vote count. Your sentiment is valid, it’s just a matter of numbers.

wolfsDad on July 9, 2012 at 1:00 AM

So I’m a little tired of the old saw about making the “rich pay their fair share” crap when all of those policies always seem to flow down to middle-class people bearing the brunt of the burden.

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 12:56 AM

+ 100..You are on a roll!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Non-partisan genius. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCSav4UrBPI

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Care to the multiple posts in this very thread that shred your arguments into little, tiny pieces? Just checkin’…..Sport.

ManWithNoParty on July 9, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Dire Straits QOTD song. Itchy.

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 1:01 AM

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 12:56 AM

The goal is not to ruin the rich, the goal is to, as you said so eloquently “get them to pay their fair share.” There are times when regulations and taxes inadvertently hurt smaller businesses. New IL cigarette regulations are going to do some horrible things to small “roll your own cigarette” shops. Not a real revenue raiser and just unfair to those who it victimizes. But, I’d rather pick effective regulations then throw all of them away.

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

“People driven by success are rarely satisfied, no matter how high they climb-no accomplishment gives lasting satisfaction. Whenever they reach one level of success, they imagine yet another, higher level. The income they once dreamed of now looks like a starvation salary. It comes down to this: people who equate happiness with success will never achieve enough success to be happy. They’re like Sisyphus, interminably pushing a rock up a hill. Ironically, Sisyphus’s only period of happiness was probably that short moment when the rock was rolling down-when he wasn’t pushing, when he had time for self-reflection.”

This also played a part to move me to slow down and smell the roses.

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Let’s talk libfree to death…

Del Dolemonte on July 9, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Won’t work, Del. The android was trying to understand.

When did it become cool to be totally ignorant of politics?

“It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”
― Ronald Reagan

novaculus on July 9, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Meanwhile you all act like those who inherited their wealth have as much to be proud about as the guy who comes from nothing.

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 12:48 AM

They do. Their ancestors worked incredibly hard to acquire it, if it was gathered ethically and legally.

Your subte harping at Romney is the same caca that Obama, the hypocrite, doles out all day long. He was never poor, never, ever, never. He lies through his teeth. His grandma in HI was the first female VP of a large bank. They lived very well. All the rest is made up crap.

Only stolen and illegal wealth is to be shunned. “Redistribution” is theft by thuggery.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:03 AM

And I hope you will be happy if your side convinces sufficient people to vote for the new boss, same as the old boss.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2012 at 12:54 AM

You really aren’t getting it. If you think Romney is just an Obama with an (R) after his name, you really do not understand the threat that Obama presents to the Republic that you claim to want to defend. Even after all of the policies and actions Obama has taken over the past 3 1/2 years, you still want to make the claim that Romney is an equivalent threat.

If that is your position, you are truly hopeless and I really hope that enough people see through that such that Johnson gets sub-percentage votes.

Yeah, its that important. Whatever you say about Romney, you cannot accuse him of being an enemy appeasing marxist. Can’t say that about Obama. This isn’t like other elections, this is as bad or worse than 1980 when Goldwater famously made the statement in his Convention Keynote, “If Reagan doesn’t win, I’m not sure that we will be having another election in four years”.

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Nice..Wasn’t that in one of the Star Wars movies??..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:05 AM

He moved.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Yes. Hard to think of him apart from RCP. They still link all his WS articles.

de rigueur on July 9, 2012 at 1:06 AM

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Indeed. Add also that if the taxes eat more and more of one’s efforts, for Utopian adventurism and theft, and it all goes against one’s philosophy, to hell with them all.

Enjoy life and starve them. I love them in the dark in Starnesvilles. This might be just the beginning.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:07 AM

And I hope you will be happy if your side convinces sufficient people to vote for the new boss, same as the old boss.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Considering the alternative is another four years of Obama, the status quo is looking mighty attractive.

kim roy on July 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Nice..Wasn’t that in one of the Star Wars movies??..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Don’t know, but it’s not the source of it :)

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM

The goal is not to ruin the rich, the goal is to, as you said so eloquently “get them to pay their fair share.” There are times when regulations and taxes inadvertently hurt smaller businesses. New IL cigarette regulations are going to do some horrible things to small “roll your own cigarette” shops. Not a real revenue raiser and just unfair to those who it victimizes. But, I’d rather pick effective regulations then throw all of them away.

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 1:01 AM

So, given all the policies already in place “to make the rich pay their fair share” and yet we still have the rich avoiding taxes while the middle class and small businesses can’t avoid those taxes, you still make the claim that more crushing regulation is all that’s needed to fix that problem? So, the small businesses haven’t been crushed enough yet?

“Inadvertently hurt smaller businesses” is OK with you? A little collateral damage on the way to Utopia and punishing the rich is OK in your eyes?

/liberalism is a sick, sick philosophy. Covetous, envious, hateful of those who succeed, only desiring to plunder from those who have made money in order to give to others who have not worked for it.

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Good evening!..:)

PS..Remember!..It s all about this!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 12:42 AM

I saw Red Rider open for Cheap Trick in the ’80s. I had front row seats, too!

He’s a Whore

PS how are you doing tonight, buddy? :) Where do you live, btw?

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Thank you both for the feedback. Please share this with people you know. The media constantly lies and claims that the Bush Tax Cuts are contributing to our deficits. That’s simply not true. The Bush Tax cuts INCREASED revenues, in no small part because they INCREASED employment. Two things that TARP and “Stimulus” FAILED to do. Increasing taxes now would lead to a double dip recession.

ITguy on July 9, 2012 at 12:54 AM

I’ve bookmarked it. Intend to share it with a couple of Family members since they have many more contacts than I. Both have a variety of fellow employees and friends that need this info.
I always appreciate the posters here that take the time to gather important information!

bluefox on July 9, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Lolz..Nice comeback!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Nice..Wasn’t that in one of the Star Wars movies??..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Don’t know, but it’s not the source of it :)

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Ayn Rand. Anthem (1938). p. 63

de rigueur on July 9, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Hadn’t heard this great one for years!

Southern Girls

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:14 AM

de rigueur on July 9, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Thanks, mon ami. Didn’t answer our friend Dire because I love to just tease him about all his smileys.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I am doing well..The Police are after me!..:)

PS.Cheap Trick rules!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Libfree- if inheriting wealth is bad, woulldn’t bequeathing also be?

I don’t even have kids and see that’s not cool. Families pool wealth. Where do you want that money to go? To the gubmint?

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a bandage for their wounds. I am not a sacrifice on their altars.

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 1:18 AM

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 12:56 AM

I’m so glad you’re here.

They are the bigges liars and hypocrits. One day they will be found out and pitchforked. I hope to be there.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Ayn Rand. Anthem (1938). p. 63

de rigueur on July 9, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Nice!..:)

PS..Was Alas Shrugged a good movie??..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Where do you want that money to go? To the gubmint?

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:18 AM

libfreeordie doesn’t deserve to libfree. Has the worst nom of all.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Ayn Rand. Anthem (1938). p. 63

de rigueur on July 9, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Nice!..:)

PS..Was Atlas Shrugged a good movie??..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Fixed!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:21 AM

PS..Was Atlas Shrugged a good movie??..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Given its budget it was ok. It had its moments. I loved the train ride and the destruction.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Nice tune!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:22 AM

The goal is not to ruin the rich, the goal is to, as you said so eloquently “get them to pay their fair share.” There are times when regulations and taxes inadvertently hurt smaller businesses. New IL cigarette regulations are going to do some horrible things to small “roll your own cigarette” shops. Not a real revenue raiser and just unfair to those who it victimizes. But, I’d rather pick effective regulations then throw all of them away.

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 1:01 AM

lib…i think the saying that you are looking for is ‘you have to break some eggs to make an omelet’

oddly, you seem to be sensitive to the idea that ROY shops will close up…i assume you know that the bit tobacco firms are pushing this…the kind of cronyism that is endemic in socialist countries

also, i assume you know that the pretext of this is ‘for medicaid’ (at least in IL)

right. So i assume you support draconian taxes to nudge people to behave in certain ways. You are much closer to the Temperance Union than you understand

ok, so you are not a libertarian. And if there is collateral damage done by the state..well, that’s ok…whatevs

but know that you are on the side of a dark future. the world used to have kingdoms, and fiefdoms…and the landed aristocracy. We had Emperors, and warlords.

and the best people could hope for is that they had a kind Lord to work for instead of a brute

that’s not progress, lib

r keller on July 9, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Thank you!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:22 AM

PS..Was Atlas Shrugged a good movie??..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:20 AM

No. Very few movies are better than the books they are based on. (OK, Godfather.)

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:24 AM

libfreeordie doesn’t deserve to libfree. Has the worst nom of all.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:21 AM

If memory serves, it stated it had made an error at registration, and spelled its nic wrong.

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 1:27 AM

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Theft by thuggery is not “fair”. Who is anyone to determine that I owe anyone “a fair share” of my labor? Who decides the term “fair”. There is no fairness in the world. Get used to it or live in modern day plantations, as a capo, or a moocher. The former is a thug, the latter is an idiot.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Azfed. Glad to know your caliber resides here. Your posts are a treat.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Your posts are a treat.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:30 AM

+1

Also, AZ, keep yer state on the level!

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:32 AM

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Um, about your sobriquet for the Federalist…

wolfsDad on July 9, 2012 at 1:33 AM

Cheap Trick makes think about this power-pop band out of Memphis. Some of their appropriate song titles:

November 4, 2008:

Tragedy

January 20, 2009 – July 9, 2012, & beyond?:

I’m a Failure

The good guys & gals in the US will be getting some of this on November 6, 2012! :):

Revenge

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Azfed. Glad to know your caliber resides here. Your posts are a treat.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:30 AM

…ditto to that sentiment..

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2012 at 1:34 AM

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:24 AM

I agree, about the books, but they did the best they could, with limited resources, incl. time.

On the other hand, just looking around in the last few years is the book in vivo, better than any movie could be. She was incredibly prescient…sadly so soon, almost to the letter.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:35 AM

wolfsDad, yeah it’s why most of us just call him AZ. LOL,

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 1:36 AM

No. Very few movies are better than the books they are based on. (OK, Godfather.)

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:24 AM

You have a very good point!..)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Azfed. Glad to know your caliber resides here. Your posts are a treat.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:30 AM

…ditto to that sentiment..

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2012 at 1:34 AM

+ 100..I agree!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 1:39 AM

If you enjoy the great Marion Williams, no doubt you’ll be joining the Clark Sisters after Obama wins re-election? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4uKG-l6Lk0

libfreeordie on July 9, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Good song, but no, it’s more like you‘ll be joining Ted Nugent after Romney wins!

Free For All

Call Of the Wild

Bizarro No. 1 on July 9, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:27 AM

This is my math. Come January, the top rate on each additional dollar is 39%. State Tax takes an additional 7%. City Tax 3%. So for each additional dollar, you end up with 51 cents after tax. If you did not spend that 50 cents before you die, Estate Tax takes another 50%. So for each additional dollar you earned working hard for, you may get 25 cents after the government takes the “fair share”.

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:41 AM

I usually start out with a baseline of 100% when it comes to my wages and what is my fair share. I’m greedy like that. I really don’t want any help. I’d rather just keep my check.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:42 AM

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Fluke them. Enjoy life and go to the ranges now and then. That way you starve them but you never starve.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 1:45 AM

wolly4321 on July 9, 2012 at 1:42 AM

:)

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:44 AM

I fully intend to enjoy my life, freedom and TIME (an irreplaceable entity).

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on July 9, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Just for you

Gute Nacht ihr lieben Sorgen
Leckt mich alle am Arsch bis morgen.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:47 AM

I fully intend to enjoy my life, freedom and TIME (an irreplaceable entity).

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 1:47 AM

May it be so!!!

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2012 at 1:48 AM

… and I too need to turn in for the night. Thank-you all for the kind words.

AZfederalist on July 9, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Team O is wasting its time. This election isn’t about Romney. It’s about the people. Romney is about as non-descript as it gets, in ideological terms, and in his personal life, his qualities range from non-threatening to mainstream to inspiring. He registers mainly as an accomplished executive. He’s not fighting Obama on deep principles, so much as opposing Obama on the exact content, e.g., in “para. XII.C – 1(f),” of policy measures.

That’s not very exciting. In fact, it’s downright dull. If Romney were more enthusiastic about conservative ideas on government, he would have demonstrated that by now. But he’s not.

What he is, is another politician in the old-consensus mode. Earnest, comparatively honest, lacking a predatory approach to the people, if not a paternalistic one. He’s a fixer, which is not the most desirable type for a president, but he’s not a radical left-wing ideologue. In that way, he represents a reversion to the prevailing idea of government and its relationship with the citizen in the 20th century. The 20th century was mostly a bad one for limited government and constitutionalism; fitting in its mold is not a compliment.

But Romney is the alternative in 2012. The question for the people is how we see our vote in 2012, and whether we have the maturity to accept that there’s no Reagan this time, and we’re going to have to do the heavy lifting ourselves.

Frenkly, for the American voters who understand the watershed we have reached with this election, the Obama campaign is irrelevant. There is no possibility whatsoever of voting for him. There is only the decision about what our priorities are, and how to approach the looming problem. My choice is to buy some breathing room with a vote for Romney, even though he leaves me cold in terms of his ideological bona fides. We’ll see in November what choice others make. But I predict Obama is an option only for his committed base, which can’t give him the election if voters make the choice I’ve decided on.

J.E. Dyer on July 9, 2012 at 1:56 AM

We’ll see in November what choice others make. But I predict Obama is an option only for his committed base, which can’t give him the election if voters make the choice I’ve decided on.

J.E. Dyer on July 9, 2012 at 1:56 AM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2012 at 2:03 AM

J.E. Dyer on July 9, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Hope the majority of the undecided comes to that conclusion. Bur Romney needs to step up in his games.

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 2:09 AM

The question for the people is how we see our vote in 2012, and whether we have the maturity to accept that there’s no Reagan this time, and we’re going to have to do the heavy lifting ourselves.

It might be that this is sort of an “us” problem this time anyway. Heavy lifting for us at the moment is probably not some unfair burden. :)

Not that you said that. I’m just talking.

Axe on July 9, 2012 at 2:25 AM

*JED

Axe on July 9, 2012 at 2:26 AM

I agree with Larry Kudlow: Obama’s goose is cooked.

Some powerful figures — including Rupert Murdoch, Jack Welch, and even my brothers and sisters at the Wall Street Journal editorial page — have taken shots at Romney in recent days. But I am more optimistic. In response to his critics on the day of the bad June jobs report, Romney talked about expanding energy resources, approving the Keystone pipeline, cutting taxes, and increasing trade with Latin America. He reaffirmed his intention to cut federal spending and eliminate programs.

Basically, Romney is promising a return to free-market, supply-side policies on taxes, trade, regulation, and spending. Hopefully he will embrace a sound and stable dollar as well. I still believe Romney is the most underrated politician in America today, and that he’s the most conservative Republican standard-bearer since Ronald Reagan.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/304935/obama-s-goose-cooked-larry-kudlow

crosspatch on July 9, 2012 at 2:38 AM

People will vote for a Ham Sandwich over Obama.

Romney is better than a Ham Sandwich.

Therefore people will vote for Romney over Obama.

FYI: Romney is not better than a cheese-steak but that doesn’t matter.

SparkPlug on July 9, 2012 at 2:45 AM

Ham Sandwich/Jindal 2012.

TitularHead on July 9, 2012 at 3:14 AM

Jimmy Carter and Vladimir Putin died and went to hell. While they were greeted by the devil, they noticed a phone on the desk and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

Putin asked to call Russia and talked for 5 minutes. When he was finished the devil informs him that the cost was a million rubles , Putin grudgingly paid up.

Then Jimmy got his turn, called the USA, and talked for 5 hours. When he was done the devil informed him that he owed $5.00.

Putin went ballistic and asked the devil why Carter got to call the USA so cheaply. The devil replied, “Since Obama took over, the country had gone to hell, so it was a local call.”

bayview on July 9, 2012 at 3:29 AM

O T:

Woke up to find this on DRUDGE, this morning. Not really a big surprise, but still . . . . . .

listens2glenn on July 9, 2012 at 4:56 AM

listens2glenn on July 9, 2012 at 4:56 AM

“OT” : LOL! (This is the QOTD, man–it’s all good!

And, OTOH, this “treaty” is most definitely all bad.

Have no doubt that this plan is very real, with strong Obama administration support.

Is there no sovereignty our jackass POTUS will not give up?!

RedCrow on July 9, 2012 at 5:10 AM

listens2glenn on July 9, 2012 at 4:56 AM

Also, your quoted article is from Forbes–and it’s a good article.

RedCrow on July 9, 2012 at 5:19 AM

From L2G:

Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the ant-gun media never seem to grasp).

Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation.

If anyone wants to see an Axe go all dark side, try this. :)

Axe on July 9, 2012 at 5:33 AM

So the majority in our Senate is smart enough to realize that the U.N.’s gun-grab agenda is unconstitutional, politically suicidal for those who support it, and down-right idiotic—right? Let’s hope so, but not entirely count on it. While a few loyal Obama Democrats are truly “pro-gun”, many are loathe to vote against treaties that carry the president’s international prestige, causing him embarrassment.

Axe on July 9, 2012 at 5:37 AM

Now let’s talk auto industry. Obama’s Department of Energy gave nearly $6 billion in taxpayer-guaranteed loans to the Ford Motor Company, which is expanding its business outside the U.S.

Flora Duh on July 8, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I may be too late for this correction, but Flora, I think that statement about Ford is incorrect. Ford did not take any bailout money. They are the only auto company that did not take any money. They are also doing the best of all of them.

Voter from WA State on July 8, 2012 at 11:48 PM

That is true, they did not receive government money in the “bailout” but they did receive an ATVM (Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing) loan from the DOE in Sept, 2009. And Ford is expanding its business outside the U.S. My source in learning about the loan is here.

Flora Duh on July 9, 2012 at 6:37 AM

SparkPlug on July 9, 2012 at 2:45 AM

A ham sandwich would be a better chief executive than Obama, no question.
Romney may be a better chief executive than a ham sandwich.
It does not follow, however, that I like Romney better than a good ham sandwich. A ham sandwich isn’t running this year. In it’s place I will vote for Romney.

Extrafishy on July 9, 2012 at 6:40 AM

J.E. Dyer on July 9, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Exactly. My take.

kingsjester on July 9, 2012 at 6:42 AM

Hear Hear JE!

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 6:53 AM

kingsjester on July 9, 2012 at 6:42 AM

good take KJ…i’m hoping the polls tick up for Mitt closer in the fall and the folks who don’t pay attention, actually do wake up and see what an idiot we have now…

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 7:01 AM

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 7:01 AM

Thank you. I hope so, too.

kingsjester on July 9, 2012 at 7:04 AM

OT: dear leader wants to extend the bush/obama tax cuts for a year for only those making less than $250…

didn’t we hear for the last 6 months none of the tax cuts will be extended…

hypocrite in chief…

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 7:06 AM

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 7:06 AM

Yep. America is looking for a leader who stands for something.

kingsjester on July 9, 2012 at 7:07 AM

kingsjester on July 9, 2012 at 7:07 AM

*sigh*

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 7:10 AM

A half century ago, Johnson took office after John F. Kennedy’s assassination and faced some formidable obstacles on Capitol Hill. How he broke down the resistance is a case study that Mr. Obama would do well to consider.

Johnson recognized a reality that seems to have eluded Mr. Obama: Politics is personal. Political Perceptions: LBJ’s Lessons for Obama

Flora Duh on July 9, 2012 at 7:10 AM

Voter from WA State on July 8, 2012 at 11:48 PM

You know, you really ought to do some research before you open your font d!ckhead. Toyota was first with 8.5 million, GM a close second with 8.4. Guess where Ford was numbnutz? FIFTH. Behind Hyundai AND VW.

Doing better…. we didn’t take any gummint candy…LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I can hear them in Dearborn now. We’re No. 5, We’re No. 5….

Jerk.

DevilsPrinciple on July 9, 2012 at 7:13 AM

Yep. America is looking for a leader who stands for something.

kingsjester on July 9, 2012 at 7:07 AM

I think that is true…but I also think America is looking for a leader who knows how to run things and keep a low profile. I really do. A sort of Silent Calvin Coolidge kind of guy or gal.

People are tired of something happening every freaking day. They want some peace and quiet. They want things running at least sort of smoothly.

I think they are tired of drama. I also think it would be mistake to believe that just because Mitt Romney is not charismatic he does not have character. It seems to me that he is more of the quiet steady kind of man. I think that is why people often compare him to the 50s sitcom Dad.

Terrye on July 9, 2012 at 7:14 AM

gibbsy…fair share!!!

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 7:17 AM

Terrye on July 9, 2012 at 7:14 AM

If there is ambivalence in the messages put out by his campaign spokespeople, no matter if Mitt himself says it or not, that will not help his chances.

kingsjester on July 9, 2012 at 7:22 AM

cmsinaz on July 9, 2012 at 7:06 AM

Same ol’ song and dance. The boy king wants to extend the Obama tax cuts for a year only on those making less than $250K, the Republicans say extend them for everyone or no deal.

“Let’s make some progress on our spending by doing away with tax cuts for people that quite frankly don’t need them, tax cuts that haven’t worked and have them pay their fair share,” Gibbs told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley.

The so-called “Buffett Rule,” named after billionaire investor Warren Buffett, would impose a minimum 30% tax rate on those making more than $1 million. The measure, however, was blocked in the Democratic-controlled Senate in April.

On the campaign trail, the president continues to call for a tax increase on the wealthy, saying they need to pay their “fair share.”

“We have got to make sure that those of us who can afford to do a little bit more, because we have been so blessed by this country, that the wealthiest among us can pay a little bit more to help close this deficit,” Obama said at a campaign stop in Poland, Ohio, on Friday.

Republicans, on the other hand, say the solution to the country’s deficit problems should center on spending cuts and further tax breaks. Source

Flora Duh on July 9, 2012 at 7:25 AM

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