LePage: The IRS is like the “new Gestapo”

posted at 5:01 pm on July 8, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Even though President Obama’s recently Supreme Court-upheld health care law imposes a whole host of ‘penalties‘ that most definitively are not taxes, or something, it’s just ‘easiest‘ for the IRS to takeover the administration of said penalties. So of course, the IRS is rolling forward with plans to begin implementing the health care law, which in turn requires that they hire thousands of new employees and rewrite a bunch of rules and regulations. Oh, joy (emphasis mine):

The Supreme Court’s decision to uphold most of President Barack Obama’s health care law will come home to roost for most taxpayers in about 2 1/2 years, when they’ll have to start providing proof on their tax returns that they have health insurance. …

Under the law, the IRS will provide tax breaks and incentives to help pay for health insurance and impose penalties on some people who don’t buy coverage and on some businesses that don’t offer it to employees.

The changes will require new regulations, forms and publications, new computer programs and a big new outreach program to explain it all to taxpayers and tax professionals. Businesses that don’t claim an exemption will have to prove they offer health insurance to employees.

The health care law “includes the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years,” according to the Treasury inspector general who oversees the IRS. The agency will have to hire thousands of workers to manage it…

But it’s not a tax. Yeah, okay, got it.

The IRS might be getting a head start with implementing ObamaCare, but during his weekly radio address, Maine Governor Paul LePage jumped on the Republican-governor bandwagon of states refusing to even start preparing for the Medicaid expansion, etcetera, before they absolutely must.

LePage said the court decision has “made America less free.”

“We the people have been told there is no choice,” he said. “You must buy health insurance or pay the new Gestapo — the IRS.” …

The governor added that Maine will not move forward the ACA’s insurance exchanges — the marketplaces where individuals can shop for health plans from private companies — until the proposed $800 million tab to pay for them passes Congress.

“With these looming uncertainties circling around this issue, Maine cannot move forward right now with Obamacare,” LePage said. …

“Even more disheartening is that reviving the American dream just became nearly impossible to do,” he said. “We are now a nation which supports dependency rather than independence. Instead of encouraging self-reliance, we are encouraging people to rely on the government.”

I can’t support the Nazi imagery — it’s perhaps just a wee bit hyperbolic for my tastes (and that’s saying something!) — but I understand the outrage. This is shaping up to be the biggest encroachment on personal freedom in America’s history, and if the federal government can take their authority this far, we’d be fools not to question just how far the American people are going to allow the government to go before insisting that enough is enough.


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I’m comfortable with using NAZI imagery to describe these fascists. Obama is treating the Unions the same way Hitler did. The new Democrat policy platform is nearly indistinguishable from the NAZI party platform. Hitler’s peeps had brown shirts, Obama has Purple shirts(Gay for sure). Hitler nationalized industries, Obama has nationalized industries. Hitler encourage people to turn each other in, Obama launched fishy.gov, and attackwatch. Hitler encouraged children to spy on their parents to the State, Obama’s NEA encourages children to tell on their parents.

We haven’t gotten to the nasty business of the Reich yet, and we may not be expansionist, but the parallels are right there.

tom daschle concerned on July 8, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Just go ahead and call Obama Hitler. Everybody knows you’re crazy already.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Sorry to Post,….Breaking!

Spokesman: Oscar-winning film star Ernest Borgnine has died in Los Angeles at age 95 – @AP

Submitted 30 secs ago by editor

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Wonder how many young folks are going ‘to get religion’, so that if ObamaCare is not repealed, once the new forms are out asking for your health insurance provider and policy number, you can write in:

RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

Now if ObamaCare is repealed, a lot of folks will bitch about all the wasted time, drawing up those thousands of rules and regulations – only to have them thrown out.

Look at it this way, the bureaucracy was kept occupied and therefore NOT able to think up rules and regulations that would be kept.

GarandFan on July 8, 2012 at 5:15 PM

AUGUSTA, Maine—Democratic lawmakers are calling on Maine Gov. Paul LePage to apologize for his remarks comparing the Internal Revenue Service to the Gestapo.

The Democratic leaders of the House and Senate issued a statement Sunday calling LePage’s language “intentionally offensive.” Rep. Emily Cain and Sen. Justin Alfond said Holocaust survivors and Word War II veterans who witnessed the terror of the Adolph Hitler’s secret police “should not be trivialized for political shock.”

These folks belong to the same Party that called Chimpy Bush “Hitler” and “A Nazi” for 8 years, and still do.

I feel their pain, really, I do.

/

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. We might as well call it what it is.

esr1951 on July 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

I have no problem whatsoever with the “gestapo” analogy. NONE…..

Lester, STFU. None of this concerns those of you that have no jobs and pay no taxes.

Canopfor, thanks for the heads up, may he rest in peace.

Tim Zank on July 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM

So how will we know that we have reached Utopia?

Kinda like trying to find gold at the end of rainbow.

Electrongod on July 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Oops…………………….

Report:

IRS To Hire Thousands More Agents To Enforce New Healthcare ‘Non-Taxes’
July 07, 2012
**************

The Supreme Court’s decision to uphold most of President Barack Obama’s health care law will come home to roost for most taxpayers in about 2 1/2 years, when they’ll have to start providing proof on their tax returns that they have health insurance.

That scenario puts the Internal Revenue Service at the center of the debate, renewing questions about whether the agency is capable of policing the health care decisions of millions of people in the United States while also collecting the taxes needed to run the federal government.

Under the law, the IRS will provide tax breaks and incentives to help pay for health insurance and impose penalties on some people who don’t buy coverage and on some businesses that don’t offer it to employees.

The changes will require new regulations, forms and publications, new computer programs and a big new outreach program to explain it all to taxpayers and tax professionals. Businesses that don’t claim an exemption will have to prove they offer health insurance to employees.

The health care law “includes the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years,” according to the Treasury inspector general who oversees the IRS. The agency will have to hire thousands of workers to manage it, requiring significant budget increases that already are being targeted by congressional Republicans determined to dismantle the president’s signature initiative.
===========

http://nation.foxnews.com/irs/2012/07/07/report-irs-hire-thousands-more-agents-enforce-new-healthcare-non-taxes

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM

If Fauxahontas can just say she is Cherokee and be endorsed by democratics, why can’t we all say we are muslims and get exceptions?

slickwillie2001 on July 8, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Just go ahead and call Obama Hitler. Everybody knows you’re crazy already.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Everybody? :(

tom daschle concerned on July 8, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Vell,I hopenzee that your herr HealthCare paperenzee
isz inz zee herr properenzee orderenzee!

(snark).

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Just go ahead and call Obama Hitler. Everybody knows you’re crazy already.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Everybody? :(

tom daschle concerned on July 8, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I’m talking about LaPage. It’s not the first time he’s proven himself an idiot.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

This is shaping up to be the biggest encroachment on personal freedom in America’s history

Oh spare me the faux outrage. Where were the small government Conservative crowd when the republicans were shredding the constitution and effectively getting rid of the Fourth Amendment in 2001. Apparently it’s okay for the government to listen our private telephones, check our mail/emails, check our business records, even search what we read at the library, all of that w/o court order. But how dare they mandate us to buy health insurance, even though more than 90% of the population already have health insurance!

Salahuddin on July 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

“I can’t support the Nazi imagery — it’s perhaps just a wee bit hyperbolic for my tastes…”

That’s your problem.

rrpjr on July 8, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Well if we vote Mitt in, maybe he can do his eo thing to undo the new gestapo thing as bho does with his almost daily eo’s?

If Mitt does get elected, he better get his eo pen going 24/7 on all bho has done!
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letget on July 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

I’m talking about LaPage. It’s not the first time he’s proven himself an idiot.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

You don’t live in Maine.

L-

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

The IRS hired 13,000 agents to enforce the ObamaTax.

The IRS also ‘coincidentally’ just ordered 13,000 Mossbergs.

Call anyone anything you wish. This is NO coincidence.

Why does the IRS need any guns?

p.s. lester is always a fool.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

canopfor, saw that, always enjoyed him. I guess mastrubation can only get you so far./

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

…Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins hardest hit!…will retire to become SS agents!

KOOLAID2 on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I LOVE this guy!

jukin3 on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I can’t support the Nazi imagery


Indeed. The IRS is much worse and much more insidious.

the gestapo at least you could see them coming and could fight back.

The power of the IRS is nothing short of what you would have in an Orwellian world.

huntingmoose on July 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. We might as well call it what it is.

esr1951 on July 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

I guess the Nazis did nothing but create the Holocaust. So, until the Holocaust is recreated, you aren’t allowed to draw parallels. Which, when you think about it, is about the dumbest strategy anyone could adopt to try to prevent a recreation of the Holocaust. (Talking loudly near the ADL here.)

Everybody? :(

tom daschle concerned on July 8, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I didn’t know. :)

Axe on July 8, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I can’t support the Nazi imagery — it’s perhaps just a wee bit hyperbolic for my tastes (and that’s saying something!)

I remember a certain group of folks with much the same take. Say, are any of them still around to ask?

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:27 PM

we’d be fools not to question just how far the American people are going to allow the government to go before insisting that enough is enough.

By the time this happens, we will be long past the point where “insisting” will do us any good. We should have been screaming “enough is enough” a long time ago (and it predates W’s presidency).

College Prof on July 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Oh spare me the faux outrage. Where were the small government Conservative crowd when the republicans were shredding the constitution and effectively getting rid of the Fourth Amendment in 2001. REGARDLESS WHERE THEY WERE IN 2001, WHAT POSSIBLE JUSTIFICATION IS IT TO ALLOW THIS MONSTROSITY? Apparently it’s okay for the government to listen our private telephones, check our mail/emails, check our business records, even search what we read at the library, all of that w/o court order. But how dare they mandate us to buy health insurance, even though more than 90% of the population already have health insurance! IF 90% OF US HAVE IT, WHY IN THE FUC* IS THIS NECESSARY AT ALL?

Salahuddin on July 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Tim Zank on July 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM

The IRS also ‘coincidentally’ just ordered 13,000 Mossbergs.

Call anyone anything you wish. This is NO coincidence.

Why does the IRS need any guns?

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

JIC™-JUST-IN-CASE Series?

Electrongod on July 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Holder threatened sheriff Arpaio again.

The administration are thugs who’re into theft, aka “social justice”.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Oh spare me the faux outrage. Where were the small government Conservative crowd when the republicans were shredding the constitution and effectively getting rid of the Fourth Amendment in 2001.

Salahuddin on July 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Tell it to the bi-partisan Congress that was in place in 2001, Kid. Or are you claiming that the Republicans rammed all that stuff thru the same way the Democrats rammed O’bamacare thru?

By the way, the Looney Left 9th Circus Court ruled way back in 1973 that folks going thru airports did not have 4th Amendment rights like everyone else. The case was U.S. VS Davis.

I wasn’t aware Bush was President back then.

Please try some new Talking Points.

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM

You don’t live in Maine.

L-

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

What happens in Maine stays in Maine?

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Sorry, but Nazi comparisons are both lazy and stupid when done by either party.

AngusMc on July 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM

The Gestapo had humble beginnings, too, I’m sure.

http://global.nationalreview.com/images/cartoon_070512_A.jpg

Liam on July 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM

You don’t live in Maine.

L-

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM

What happens in Maine stays in Maine?

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Stupidest thing you’ve ever posted here.

A+

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Sorry, but Nazi comparisons are both lazy and stupid when done by either party.

AngusMc on July 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM

You’re right.

However, the standards the parties are held to are like zenith and abyss.

Therefore, Fluke them all, speak your mind and fight for your and anyone else’s freedom to do so.

The leftists will never do it. They want rightists to shut up and they say anything they want.

Therefore, never, ever, call them liberals or progressives because they are Goebbels. They make him proud.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Why does the IRS need any guns?

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Sure as heII isn’t because the price point on Mossbergs is good.

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:34 PM

I’m talking about LaPage. It’s not the first time he’s proven himself an idiot.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

…says mo lester who proves the phenomenon daily… whenever posting!

KOOLAID2 on July 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM

What’s wrong with calling a spade a spade…?

Seven Percent Solution on July 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Sorry, but Nazi comparisons are both lazy and stupid when done by either party.

AngusMc on July 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Why? What makes NAZI comparisons invalid? Seriously, answer that.

Tim Zank on July 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM

America is a frog in a pot of “warm” water right now unless we wake up before the water gets to boiling…

g2825m on July 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Sure as heII isn’t because the price point on Mossbergs is good.

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Where is the R congress on this? Mitt? The right is derelict, in 1001 regards. The Mossies are just some of what they got. Remingtons too and millions of rounds for pistols.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM


The IRS also ‘coincidentally’ just ordered 13,000 Mossbergs.


Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

To compliment the 450 million rounds of hollow point pistol ammunition the DHS just ordered.

clippermiami on July 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM

What’s wrong with calling a spade a spade…?

Seven Percent Solution on July 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM

It was done by a R governor.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM

clippermiami on July 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Note the timing of your comment, and mine, above it.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

These folks belong to the same Party that called Chimpy Bush “Hitler” and “A Nazi” for 8 years, and still do.

I feel their pain, really, I do.

/

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

LePage should invite those slugs to pound sand.

I hear from friends in ME that he’s quite popular up there.

petefrt on July 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM

clippermiami on July 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Still, the Mossie acquisition is the one you should worry about a lot…while not ignoring the other.

These thugs are out of control, in ways never before experienced.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:39 PM

I can’t support the Nazi imagery — it’s perhaps just a wee bit hyperbolic for my tastes (and that’s saying something!) — but I understand the outrage.

I’m sure the Germans thought the same way.

faraway on July 8, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Oops Part Deux!

IRS gearing up for new responsibilities in health care
2 Hours ago
***********

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court’s decision to uphold most of President Barack Obama’s health care law will come home to roost for most taxpayers in about 2½ years, when they’ll have to start providing proof on their tax returns that they have health insurance.

That scenario puts the Internal Revenue Service at the center of the debate, renewing questions about whether the agency is capable of policing the health care decisions of millions of people in the United States while also collecting the taxes needed to run the federal government.

Under the law, the IRS will provide tax breaks and incentives to help pay for health insurance and impose penalties on some people who don’t buy coverage and on some businesses that don’t offer it to employees.

The IRS is expected to spend $881 million on the law from 2010 through 2013, hiring more than 2,700 new workers and upgrading its computer systems. But the IRS has not made public information about its spending plans in the following years, when the bulk of the health care law takes effect.

The committee chairman, Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., has scheduled a hearing on the tax implications of the Supreme Court’s ruling for Tuesday.
(More………….)
===================

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/08/12628058-irs-gearing-up-for-new-responsibilities-in-health-care?lite

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Why? What makes NAZI comparisons invalid? Seriously, answer that.

Tim Zank on July 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Because they are never even close accurate and are usually based on a History Channel level understanding of Nazi Germany. No, not even that. Based on an understanding gleaned from seeing a commercial about a Nazi documentary on the History Channel.

AngusMc on July 8, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Where is the R congress on this? Mitt? The right is derelict, in 1001 regards. The Mossies are just some of what they got. Remingtons too and millions of rounds for pistols.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Yep, nothing to worry about, I’ll just ask some of the folks. You know, the ones who waited too long, and are no longer around.

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:40 PM

US IRS
******

http://www.irs.gov/

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

you’re crazy already.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Nice grammar. Can you define redundant?

CW on July 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

“We the people have been told there is no choice.” No, not now, not ever. The Founder knew we had a propensity for Freedom of Rights Revolution, after all we just went through one, so they built into the Constitution the ability to have an orderly revolution every 2-8 years. In the last few decades the “ruling” parties have so insulated themselves from this as to make this choice impotent. We the people still have one other choice. The same that happened to King George can happen to our current King Demigods, “An Armed Insurrection” even in this they have been attempting to negate the ability. I do not advocate armed revolt, I do not look to an armed revolt, but if our “Collective Party Leaders” do not “Get Their Collective Heads” out of their “Collective butts” this will happen.

All gun carrying members of the government, our soldiers and our police take much the same oath of allegiance. It is in fact a list of priorities. First on the list is the Preservation of the Constitution of the United States. All service member are taught that it is their duty to not obey unlawful order.

Not even on the list is protection of the “Ruling Parties Members”

jpcpt03 on July 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

These folks belong to the same Party that called Chimpy Bush “Hitler” and “A Nazi” for 8 years, and still do.

I feel their pain, really, I do.

/

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Lester will just keep drinking the koolaid.

CW on July 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I can’t support the Nazi imagery — it’s perhaps just a wee bit hyperbolic for my tastes (and that’s saying something!) — but I understand the outrage.
========================

Yup,agreed!

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

From comments so far:

Comparison with Nazi Germany is not fair, to Nazis.

LaPage’s madness is more widespread on right than I thought.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Fast and furious, nah, no connection to things at all.

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Sorry to Post,….Breaking!

Spokesman: Oscar-winning film star Ernest Borgnine has died in Los Angeles at age 95 – @AP

Submitted 30 secs ago by editor

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

RIP Borgy, One of the very best and last of a great, dying breed that Hollywood desperately needs nowadays. Sadly, guys like EB are nowhere to be found among all the skinny jean emos and tattooed havent-beens being passed of as leading men these days.

Can anyone name an under-50 Borgnine equivalent in Hollywood today?
How about a modern-day Burt Lancaster or Gregory Peck? They dont exist.

Issue 2: In my opinion the whole Nazi thing never has, doesnt now and hopefully never will apply in this country, and its just as ignorant, divisive and wrong when a righty uses the profoundly false analogy as when a lefty does it.

When the IRS stops fining and slapping liens on errant taxpayers, and starts sending agents all over North America pulling people out of bed and tossing them into a mass grave an hour later, then the analogy will be accurate. But please, not before. At a minimum, the GOP at its acolytes should be better than that and refrain from making this comparison. C’mon, man!

Sacramento on July 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

From comments so far:

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM

lester is still a fool, but you knew that.

Schadenfreude on July 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM

13,000 mossbergs might be enough,,

For this County.

But I doubt it.

wolly4321 on July 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM

From comments so far:

Comparison with Nazi Germany is not fair, to Nazis.

LaPage’s madness is more widespread on right than I thought.

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Translated: “I’m having my alien getalife kicked to the Equator and back on this thread too!”

Just curious, Hans: Was it “madness” when the U.S. Democrats called President Bush a “Nazi” and “Hitler” for 8 years too?

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

I’m pretty comfortable with the, “new Gestapo” term. Quite comfortable, in fact.

ellifint on July 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM

From comments so far:

lester on July 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM

More asesome grammar . Either that or you meant comments in the future.

Were you edumacated in these United States of Americer??? Pubwic screwel?

OT but Ernest Borgnine passed away at age 95.

CW on July 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I notice idiots like Lester would prefer to attack Lepage than deal with his charge.

CW on July 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM

The IRS seems pretty clearly on the Tax side of the #TaxorNoTax debate

ChrisL on July 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Were you edumacated in these United States of Americer??? Pubwic screwel?

CW on July 8, 2012 at 5:48 PM

lesster has already admitted that it’s not an American.

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM

These folks belong to the same Party that called Chimpy Bush “Hitler” and “A Nazi” for 8 years, and still do.

I feel their pain, really, I do.

/

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Tell me about. My neighborhood is still papered with old Bush/Hitler posters.

Hey, lester! Come clean up your crap!

Blake on July 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I’m comfortable with using NAZI imagery to describe these fascists.

tom daschle concerned on July 8, 2012 at 5:07 PM

I think this image is more appropriate.

WeekendAtBernankes on July 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

RIP Borgy, One of the very best and last of a great, dying breed that Hollywood desperately needs nowadays. Sadly, guys like EB are nowhere to be found among all the skinny jean emos and tattooed havent-beens being passed of as leading men these days.

Sacramento on July 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Sacramento:I speak from experience,on o/t discussions,and I
loved the McHale Navy show,yes,a dying breed,and
I have tears of sadness,anywho,back on topic!:)

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:53 PM

lesster has already admitted that it’s not an American.

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM

I missed that. I almost was going to totally rude and ask if he was simply mentally retarded. He must be Canadian.

/

CW on July 8, 2012 at 5:53 PM

RIP Borgy, One of the very best and last of a great, dying breed that Hollywood desperately needs nowadays. Sadly, guys like EB are nowhere to be found among all the skinny jean emos and tattooed havent-beens being passed of as leading men these days.

Can anyone name an under-50 Borgnine equivalent in Hollywood today?
How about a modern-day Burt Lancaster or Gregory Peck? They dont exist.

Sacramento on July 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

SAcramento,
one other important point to your discussion is that not only Ernest Borgnine serve in the military, but dozens and dozens of others have served in the yesteryears of Hollywood. How many current actors/TV personalities today can you think of?

I think the most current is Drew Carey who “is” a Marine.

And now we know why every movie about war coming out of Hollyweird is anti-US and war! There are so many heroic movies that could be made about people serving over here in AFG and in Iraq.

Who knows, maybe they’ll roll out a “the Nazi’s were only misunderstood” type film.

g2825m on July 8, 2012 at 5:54 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Wimp.

I’m a Jew. And I say, use it. You’re not going to offend me.

OBAMA is a NAZI. And we need to do to him what we did to Hitler in the mid 1940s.

UODuckMan on July 8, 2012 at 5:55 PM

I can’t support the Nazi imagery — it’s perhaps just a wee bit hyperbolic for my tastes

I know –its sort of like –having the IRS in charge of my healthcare or something.

canditaylor68 on July 8, 2012 at 5:55 PM

to *be* totally rude

CW on July 8, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Just don’t comply.

wolly4321 on July 8, 2012 at 5:57 PM

On Topic: Obama has invited Egypt’s newly elected Islamist president, Mohamed Mursi, to visit the United States in September,

faraway on July 8, 2012 at 5:57 PM

I think this image is more appropriate.

WeekendAtBernankes on July 8, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I’m happy with tightening the analogy. As long as we get to draw comparisons to the erosion of freedom and stirring of totalitarianism, I’m good. Because waiting until:

the IRS stops fining and slapping liens on errant taxpayers, and starts sending agents all over North America pulling people out of bed and tossing them into a mass grave an hour later, then the analogy will be accurate. But please, not before.

Sacramento on July 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

… would be foolish.

Axe on July 8, 2012 at 5:58 PM

ellifint, nice to see you, apparently the IRS is not comfortable. Hence the heavy firepower. ; )

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM

skinny jean emos

… but that was really funny. :)

Axe on July 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Even the epa is armed up. Ask Gibson guitars.

wolly4321 on July 8, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Who knows, maybe they’ll roll out a “the Nazi’s were only misunderstood” type film.

g2825m on July 8, 2012 at 5:54 PM

LOL!

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Indeed we do have the new age Gestapo and it’s only the beginning. Unless the gutless politicians challenge the little dictator we will soon see the end of a once great Republic.

rplat on July 8, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Oops Part Trois……………..

Supreme Court’s decision renews questions about IRS capability to enforce health care mandate
Published: July 7
*****************

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court’s decision to uphold most of President Barack Obama’s health care law will come home to roost for most taxpayers in about 2½ years, when they’ll have to start providing proof on their tax returns that they have health insurance.

That scenario puts the Internal Revenue Service at the center of the debate, renewing questions about whether the agency is capable of policing the health care decisions of millions of people in the United States while also collecting the taxes needed to run the federal government.

“Knowing the complexity of the health law, there’s no question that the IRS is going to struggle with this,” said Rep. Charles Boustany Jr., R-La., chairman of the House Ways and Means oversight subcommittee. “The IRS wants more resources. Well, we need to start digging down into what are they doing with the resources and personnel.”(More……)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/supreme-courts-decision-renews-questions-about-irs-capability-to-enforce-health-care-mandate/2012/07/07/gJQAJHe3UW_story.html

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 6:01 PM

LOL!

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Bmore…
No mail run the last couple of days here but I thank you in advance when they do arrive!

g2825m on July 8, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Notice when Lesster is challenged he crawls back under his rock. So predictable.

CW on July 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM

The “Gestapo” comparison was unfortunate for the Nazi connotation. But I can understand why it was used. “Gestapo” is an easily understood allusion to an all powerful secret police.

Perhaps “Stasi” would be more fitting. But might not be understood by the low information voter.

schmuck281 on July 8, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Ahem,speaking of Hitler!!

Hitler learns of the Obamacare Ruling
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU86jjZuli4

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I am still amazed as I read REAL autobiographies of Jefferson, Washington, Adams, etc how these Congresses over the years have gotten around phrases such as “congress shall make no laws abridging…”, “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms”, SCOTUS Justices telling foreign countries NOT to model their Constitutions after OURS!!??, and MAKING people buy a product or service they do not want nor may need! Where are we as a country headed?

g2825m on July 8, 2012 at 6:07 PM

g2825m, probably the holiday, I have another heading your way soon. I did not include magazines. My friend has volunteered all of his. You will hardly notice the difference between brand new, except for the dates. I did have to tell minor fibs as far as the contents of one of the three. My postal person assured me it was okay. ; )

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Spokesman: Oscar-winning film star Ernest Borgnine has died in Los Angeles at age 95 – @AP

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

I loved him in the Dirty Dozen.

And no, I don’t have a problem at all with the Gestapo analogy. The Gestapo was evil and Obama’s as evil as they come.

TxAnn56 on July 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM

canopfor, saw that, always enjoyed him. I guess mastrubation can only get you so far./

Bmore on July 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Bnore:

******************* You’ll Go Blind ***********************!!

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Perhaps “Stasi” would be more fitting. But might not be understood by the low information voter.

schmuck281 on July 8, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I once dated Stasi in the 9th grade but we broke up later after not understanding a broadway play and the struggle MY race has gone through…

g2825m on July 8, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Notice when Lesster is challenged he crawls back under his rock. So predictable.

CW on July 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Lesster is butterfly dancing between this thread and another one, and getting keelhauled in both. Epic.

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Thanks Bmore, great to see you too! Comforting thinking that the IRS is stocking up on weapons, eh?

ellifint on July 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

I loved him in the Dirty Dozen.

And no, I don’t have a problem at all with the Gestapo analogy. The Gestapo was evil and Obama’s as evil as they come.

TxAnn56 on July 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM

TxAnn56:Totalitarian sums it up,Progressives RUs!:)

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM

******************* You’ll Go Blind ***********************!!

canopfor on July 8, 2012 at 6:09 PM

lol — watch Canada, Bmore — He gets a little weird. I think it’s the igloo.

g2825m on July 8, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I think we still have a choice? There are limits to the totalitarian analogies. We aren’t actually Nazis. It’s not over. :)

Axe on July 8, 2012 at 6:13 PM

I’m not so sure about Gestapo. I think that title rest squarely on the shoulders of the BATF. At least the IRS hasn’t murdered any religious groups yet.

Dunedainn on July 8, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Stupidest thing you’ve ever posted here.

A+

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Del, that is saying something! Because that a-hole has really posted ALOT of dumbazz sh!t here at HA.

VegasRick on July 8, 2012 at 6:16 PM

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