Did Ginsburg hint at the court’s direction on the HHS mandate?
posted at 2:01 pm on July 8, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
The legal win last week for Barack Obama at the Supreme Court on ObamaCare came with some significant downside. Among them, the affirmation of constitutionality for the ACA means that the HHS mandate on contraception remains in place, a diktat to religious organizations to fund and provide access to sterilization, abortifacients, and other means of birth control that violate the tenets of their faiths. Dozens of Catholic organizations have already filed suit, and plan to go full speed ahead with them:
The Supreme Court may have ruled on Obamacare, but a pro-life law firm that is behind some of the many lawsuits that have been filed against the HHS mandate that requires religious groups to pay for birth control and abortion-causing drugs say those challenges continue.
Last Thursday, the Supreme Court issued a 5-4 decision essentially upholding the Obamacare law that pro-life groups regard as the biggest expansion of abortion and abortion funding since Roe v. Wade. The law also drew strong opposition from the pro-life community not only over abortion but because the legislation also promotes rationing of medical care that could lead to involuntarily denying lifesaving treatment. …
But the law was also problematic for pro-lifers because of the controversial HHS mandate — which The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty indicates are still a topic of legal challenges that will move forward. Although the Supreme Court rejected claims challenging the individual mandate, the pro-life legal group says it allowed religious-liberty lawsuits against the HHS Mandate to proceed.
“The court’s opinion did not decide the issues in our cases,” said Hannah Smith, Senior Counsel at the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. “We are challenging the Health and Human Services (HHS) mandate on religious liberty grounds which are not part of today’s decision. We will move forward seeking vindication of our client’s First Amendment rights.”
In other words, the political problems with ObamaCare remain — and in this case, an inexplicably self-inflicted political problem. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops took a lot of flak for conducting its Fortnight for Freedom in the middle of an election campaign, but as they pointed out, they didn’t choose the timing of the order that would force Catholic organizations to fund and facilitate access to birth control. That decision came from the White House, which could have resolved the controversy — at least as far as the USCCB is concerned — by extending the religious exemption to all religious organizations, a change that would have impacted less than a million workers in an economy of over 142 million jobs. Instead, Obama and HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius chose to deliberately antagonize a constituency Obama won in 2008 by nine points, and a leadership group that should have been a natural ally, as it has pushed for universal health care for almost a century.
Earlier this week, Politico reported that Obama’s obstinacy on this point could lead to another defeat, this one both legal and political. In reading the dissent written by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, she defended the individual mandate to carry health insurance, but noted that the Constitution still limited the federal government from imposing other mandates:
Several of the groups that have filed suit saw a glimmer of hope for their case in Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s opinion in the Supreme Court’s individual mandate case.
“Other provisions of the Constitution also check congressional overreaching,” Ginsburg wrote. “A mandate to purchase a particular product would be unconstitutional if, for example, the edict impermissibly abridged the freedom of speech, interfered with the free exercise of religion or infringed on a liberty interest protected by the Due Process Clause.”
The phrasing caught the eye of many opponents of the law.
“You can never know the motivation of the justices, but the fact that she put that in there seems to me a suggestion to the administration that you need to find a way to figure this out,” said Grace-Marie Turner, president of the Galen Institute. “It’s just such a direct affront to the First Amendment.”
“I think the justices are aware that there are these HHS mandate cases out there,” said Eric Rassbach, deputy general counsel at the Becket Fund, which is representing the plaintiffs in four of the cases. “They’re going to be dealing with the Affordable Care Act cases for several years.”
Don’t forget that this is the same court that delivered an embarrassing and unanimous slap at the Department of Justice for its attempt to apply EEOC laws to churches in their employment of ministers — and, importantly, others as well. In that 9-0 decision in January, the court ruled that religious organizations had a First Amendment right to determine their own hiring policies as part of their religious expression. Quite to the point of this controversy, Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School v. EEOC did not involve an actual minister within the four walls of a church, but a teacher at a school of the kind that would be entirely subject to the HHS contraception mandate. Walter Olson at Cato described the case prior to the decision:
A Michigan teacher who taught a mix of secular and religious topics at a (now-closed) religious grade school filed suit against the school over alleged retaliation under the Americans with Disabilities Act. The church had designated her particular teaching position (unlike some others) as reserved for persons with a “calling,” and it deemed her not to have such a calling, given her willingness to resort to court action rather than internal church dispute mechanisms. But perhaps the school had erred by reserving the position for persons with a calling. If so, who should decide where to draw the line? The federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission? A federal court that might be unfamiliar with, or unsympathetic to, church doctrine?
Had the Obama administration sought to sidestep culture-war politics and buff up its pluralist credentials, it might have urged the high court to read the ministerial exception broadly to include jobs including religious instruction, or at least urge it to decide the case at hand narrowly. Instead, it astonished some onlookers by urging the Court to reconsider the ministerial exception entirely.
If Ginsburg was trying to send a message to the Obama administration, she must have been mystified as to why it was necessary to do so. Hosanna-Tabor should have been message enough. Clearly, the administration will lose in federal court, and lose big. If they’re bothering to read the opinions in the ACA decision, the geniuses who thought up the incredibly narrow and repulsive religious exemption to the HHS contraception mandate had better start working on an exit strategy from it — when it still might do Obama some political good.
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Bishop on February 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Mahoney for the Win. The Holy Spirit Wills it!! LOL!
abobo on February 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Uh, no.
platypus on February 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM
I’m more hoping for an American President.
Just kidding.
Really.
MTF on February 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM
A lot of the talk just seems like pre-confab make-work musings. I’m sure this summer, someone reporting on football will do a “Jets in the Super Bowl?” speculation piece. Doesn’t mean it has a chance of happening.
jon1979 on February 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM
I wonder if any of these American “potential candidates” are fluent in Latin and Italian?
Pork-Chop on February 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM
Mahoney for the Win. The Holy Spirit Wills it!! LOL!
abobo on February 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Him or Law, just as a giant “We don’t even care anymore.” And then the pope could say, “I am the Law!”
JohnW on February 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM
I’m betting it’s gonna be Cardinal Lustigere (sp?) of Paris.
Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM
The WaPo made the case for an American Pope last weekend. Essentially the author thought an American would reform the church and get rid of some of the “stupid stuff” like the RCC position on abortion and celebecy. In short, the case was based on the idea that an American Pope would modernize the RCC by changing the tenets of Roman Catholic faith. Of course, the same edition also made the case that the next Pope should be a Nun. Take that for what it is worth.
Bottom line, this is like the electoral college. Nothing matters except those that actually have a vote that counts. I think that the odds are good that the next pontiff will not be from Europe which has been centuries overdue. For political reasons, an American may be too controversial but my understanding is that there is a Canadian on the short list of non-Europeans. Maybe that is the candidate we should be rallying around. That or maybe looking into that whole nun thing.
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM
…either O’Malley or Dolan…would be nice!
KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2013 at 9:43 AM
Yeah because, for whatever reason, when God’s spirit fills the conclave and speaks to the cardinals about who should be the next Bishop of Rome He always seems to choose a candidate from within a few hundred miles of Vatican City.
Seriously, catholic means universal. Isn’t it about time the RCC proves that it is a faith guided by somebody other than an old European guy who has spent a lifetime embroiled in church politics?
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Amended:
17 comments or bust!
Bishop on February 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM
It would make sense…Americans are good at running big corporations.
Hat Trick on February 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM
The Holy Spirit to the conclave concerning Roger Mahoney….
At this point does it really matter?
Seriously, the man should be in jail for abetting pedophiles for years. The only reason why he wasn’t de-frocked was that he was doing Rome’s bidding when he shuffled the pedophiles off to unsuspecting congregations. It is a black mark on the RCC that will not soon be forgotten.
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Is it the same Mahoney as in Police Academy movies of old? If not, I’m not interested.
Archivarix on February 21, 2013 at 9:50 AM
The epitome of low information voter. Things were so much clearer when we could call them by their rightful title…. moron. But apparently that is a medical classification and the morons got upset that “low information” idiots were bogarting on their turf.
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM
Well, although having been raised and disciplined by devout Catholic nuns for whom I still hold a warm spot in my heart, I am not of the Roman Catholic faith so I don’t have a direct “dog in the fight”; my interest is solely in observing what role it might play in possible end-times scenarios.
I’m not convinced that God has ever had much to say about who is elected Pope and your emphasis on Post-modern Western influences being the deciding factor in the next one seems to underscore that point.
Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM
The irony that the WaPo couldn’t possibly grasp is that the only realistic way an American Pope would be selected by the synod would be as a rebuke to the current occupant of the White House, due to his attempts to limit the Catholic Church’s freedom of religion due to government rulings, including the mandates that church-run medical facilities support measures involved with birth control and abortion.
Basically, if they got their American head of the Catholic Church, it would be because that person would be seen as a counterweight to the current administration, not as an adjunct. That was one of the prime reasons John Paul II was elected, as a counterweight to the anti-church regimes of Eastern Europe. I don’t think the rest of the Catholic Church sees the U.S. as in the same position as Poland or the Soviet Union, circa 1978, which is why you’re not likely to get a Pope from the U.S. But outlets like the Washington Post and other liberal big media haunts would be getting the vapors within six months or so when they figured out the Bishops didn’t just appoint one of the Berrigan brothers to its highest position.
jon1979 on February 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM
not going to happen, the same was said last time around about a pope from AFRICA. believe it or not there’s politics in religion.
phatfawzi on February 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM
An American Pope…Why not?
workingclass artist on February 21, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Do I have to remind you that your pathetic tin-god church routinely bent over for the Fedzilla Caesar, and still has murder-happy Nancy Pelosi under its wing? Until I see these two flaws rectified, forgive me for not giving a mouthful of warm spit for your religion.
Archivarix on February 21, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Um…. I’m a Protestant. Nancy Pelosi, I’m happy to say, is not a member of my particular denomination. Beyond that I have no clue what you are ranting about and no concern about your faith other than the fact it is useless to even discuss religion with an idiot who refers to our creator as a “pathetic tin-god”
Like I said before, you are definitely the epitome of low information, mouth-breathing, moron.
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM
At the risk of pointing out the obvious, Europe is part of the Orbum. NO candidate should be ruled out based upon where they live. Their lives to date — their contributions in words and deeds to the world (the only possible measure of faith to us humans) — and their ability to function as Pope — are all that should be considered.
I have no dog in this race, even though I’m Catholic. I have one dog I’m betting against (Mahoney) because of the harm he has done to the Church with his sins of commission and omission regarding pedophilia. Obviously, the Vatican insiders feel the same way.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM
There are two ways of looking at your comments.
1. When the Holy Spirit guides the decision, the political effectiveness of the Pontiff is part of the calling because it is necessary for the job.
2. Or the more cynical idea that elevation of a cardinal to Pope is nothing but the end result of political intrigue and in-fighting by a select group of politicians.
I don’t think that option one necessarily negates option two (or the other way around).
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM
That’s fine. But, obviously, you’ve given far more than a mouthful of spittle here.
As for bending over for Mr. Caesar, wouldn’t you say the Church got into a great amount of trouble by not doing so in the case of the pedophile/homosexual priests? As for the Bishops, their original embrace of Obamacare has turned around. Maybe they finally read a few encyclicals and figured out that social justice must come from the individual, not Caesar, for Caesar rules using the fasces, and the fasces do not promote willful obedience, but rather fearful obedience.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM
I suggest – nay, insist! – that you perform an obscene, anatomically impossible act. If troglocons like you, Phuckabee and Scrotorum are what “conservatives” are supposed to be, I’ll take RINO Romney any day. Heck, I’ll probably take Ron Paul zombie any day over that.
Archivarix on February 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM
There’s a reason why the word Cardinal and the word Cat begin with the same first two letters.
I think.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Impressive attack. It looks like a blenderful of red herrings just got tossed into the mix.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2013 at 10:22 AM
I find the concepts of court intrigue and behind the scenes maneuvering a bit distasteful when dealing with a humans spiritual state.
BL@KBIRD on February 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM
No candidate should be ruled out but how many centuries ago was there a non-European? 600? 700? You really would think that location shouldn’t be a job requirement either.
I’m not a Catholic so this is really more of a spectator sport than anything else for me (you’ll note I’ve not backed any candidate). Nevertheless, I do think that the Holy Spirit could really energize the RCC by guiding the choice for the next Bishop of Rome to somebody who has served the church in a part of the world where the faith is strong and growing instead of a Western European nation where single digit percentages of the population actually participate in the life of the church.
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Catholicism. LOL.
CoffeeMan on February 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM
We already have an American Pope, silly rabbit. His name is Al Gore, Pope of the Church of Global Warming and his newest High Priest is John Kerry, Secretary of the State of Global Warming.
VorDaj on February 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM
My go to source for all matters ecclesiastical is CBS news.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on February 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Will Candy Crawley moderate the Pope debate?
Oil Can on February 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM
I do not accept your premise.
Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM
LOL
Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Welp, my guess was wrong. Unless he’s miraculously raised from the dead, Lustiger is out of the running and has been so since 2007 it appears.
Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 10:40 AM
There is a whole world out there that needs Christ and I’m afraid you’re expending effort incorrectly. Christ commands us to follow him so at the end of the day when you tell someone their sins have been justified, the election of the pope is meaningless.
LaughterJones on February 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Okay. And?
Happy Nomad on February 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM
American Pope, African Pope, Nun Pope, etc., etc., etc. Are we somehow viewing the Papacy as being in need of more “diversity” and/or tolerance? Are we also to believe that the selection of a Pope from a Non-European country will somehow bring some acclaim to that country? How would we know the new Pope was not selected in spite of his home country rather than because of it? I’m not even Catholic and I find that idea offensive. Will we next be hearing about the possibilities of a Muslim Pope? How about a gay Pope, Maybe we need for Obama to select a Pope Czar! Maybe Obama should just claim the title for his own.
MikeA on February 21, 2013 at 10:52 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MORE COFFEE!!
And a can of Red Bull.
Solaratov on February 21, 2013 at 10:52 AM
As a Protestant, I’d love the idea of an American pope very visibly and effectively busting 0bama’s tiny balls over abortion.
CurtZHP on February 21, 2013 at 10:53 AM
I asked someone about this a few years ago (I forget who I was talking to, but I think it was a bishop) and I asked about the American Pope idea. He said that it was pretty much a non-starter because America is perceived by the rest of the world as being so powerful, that it’s unlikely the Church would select someone from America simply for that reason. They don’t want the perception of a Church being influenced by the most powerful nation in the world into selecting a Pope from there.
Nethicus on February 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Good points MikeA.
LaughterJones, the election of a Pope is not meaningless. Look at the impact of Pope John Paul II. It may have been the greatest example of the power of a pope. Without commanding a single soldier, along with the West he help bring the end of the Soviet State.
Which pope will be there? I don’t know, but I think MikeA is right; it shouldn’t be for diversity or tolerance. Although I do believe the Cardinal Peter Turkson from Ghana is my personal favorite. Not because of diversity or tolerance, but my understanding of his works and personal commitment to the faith.
We’ll see.
itsspideyman on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Is Obama being considered? I wonder if the paygrade of Pope is where the decision of “where does life begin” is made.
BobMbx on February 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Let’s just leave it at that.
Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 10:58 AM
ED-
You should know Media pandering when you see it.
Or has the media idiocy of these last 5 years jaded the senses?
FlaMurph on February 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM
On second thought, Happy Nomad…what LJ said.
Cleombrotus on February 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Cardinal Peter Turkson
Stop with all this other nonsense and let’s get this Armageddon on!
LoganSix on February 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Most cardinals are still European, but the next largest contingent are Americans. There may not be enough South American or African cardinals to choose among, since the College of Cardinals likes to choose among their own number. So an American bishop is not outside the realm of possibility. It would make the growing animosity the Democrat Party has towards the Church more obvious to the World.
theCork on February 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Timothy Dolan would be my choice. But it’s up to God.
wildcat72 on February 21, 2013 at 11:54 AM
I’ve read about Canadian Cardinal Marc Ouellet and he seems like a good candidate. However, he himself was quoted as saying that:
Then there’s another U.S Cardinal who isn’t mentioned at all, but has a great track record of being a very able administrator: Cardinal Donald Wuerl, currently in Washington, D.C. But even so, IMHO, I doubt very much that any of the Cardinals from North America will be chosen, especially from the U.S.
PatriotGal2257 on February 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM
Born Irish Catholic, 12 years of Catholic schools, but as long as the church allows murderers like Pelosi, Kennedy et all I will no longer care who they choose as pope. The church in the US supported Obama in the last election. Eff them.
megthered on February 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Regardless of which way the “buzz” is trending, I am still firmly in support of Timothy Cardinal Dolan as the next Pope. It’s time for an American to be seriously considered. It’s certainly time to select a non-European Pope. And Cardinal Dolan is about as good as cardinals come. He could do wonders for the Church. In the coming days as we approach the conclave, he will be in my prayers.
Shump on February 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Regardless of her political positions, Laura Bush is a classy woman. One of the classiest women to come through Washington, DC in a long time. I miss having her as First Lady, and I think it’s abhorrent that she would be used in a political ad without her consent.
Laura Bush. Condoleeza Rice. Dana Perino.
Nancy Pelosi. Valerie Jarrett. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
I judge presidents by the company they keep…
Shump on February 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Oops. Wrong thread.
Shump on February 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM
what about bark? he does everythign else so well.
acyl72 on February 21, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Probably not, since Lustiger died in 2007!
The next pope is unlikely to be from the United States, because Church membership is declining in the United States, while it is growing rapidly in South America and sub-Saharan Africa. The next pope is likely to be Latin American, in order to lead the growing Latin American contingent away from “liberation theology”, an attempt to conflate Christianity with Marxism which was virulently opposed by John Paul II, one of Marxism’s most outspoken victims.
There may be an outside chance of an African pope, but this would be more unlikely, not due to racism, but because many African Catholics are converts from Islam or various animist sects, and the Church would probably want to ensure that the new Pope does not bring doctrine from other religions into the official doctrine of the Church.
Steve Z on February 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Well, you have your idea, and God has His.
That said, this chart may be interesting to you. Numerologists can take it as they will.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM
‘Nuf said.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM
If only because I hate repeating myself … This Just In: Benedict XVI Still Pope!
manwithblackhat on February 21, 2013 at 4:11 PM
Cardinal Oellete, quebec?
Would you like some Poutine with your
eggsPope?can_con on February 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM
With a few notable exceptions, most American bishops are more concerned with promoting socialism. Sadly, championing life and religious liberty are secondary.
Is the Holy Spirit really in charge or is God merely allowing our Catholic leaders their way? I wonder.
shinty on February 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Don’t make me laugh…Dolan’s train left the station the night he yuked it up with the One and gave cover to all the weak knee’d “Catholics” who ended up voting against the basic tennets of their own faith. O’Malley is not up to the task no matter how “othodox” he might seem on some basic issues like right to life…imagine that a Catholic Cardinal that is committed to opposing abortion, what is the world coming to…and that’s supposed to be a selling point for his candidacy? Madness…both O’Malley and Dolan have this little issue of politicans within their domains that have this little problem with voting for abortion, birth control provided by the government, etc…and Dolan really has a problem with a “Catholic” governor, living in sin and promoting the most extensive expansion of abortion rights in the nation…and had done nothing in response.Oh I’m sure that is going down very well in Rome. If Dolan really wanted to boost his his chances he would announce that Cuomo was banned from recieving communion in any church in the archdiocese…and then get on a plane to Rome.
ironmarshal on February 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Liberation theology, while still around is not the problem with Latin America. Despite what the media wants to report the Church in South America is a mess, with many priests and catholics falling victim to the need to compete with the Evangelical on their turf…masses turned into rock concerts and abandoning Catholic theology…Catholics from South America just shake their heads when they hear about the “growing” Catholic church in Latin America…it is anything but. There will be no South American Pope…not this time anyways.
ironmarshal on February 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM
Ahh, such egalitarianism!
Granted, in Vatican circles it probably is just that….
There Goes The Neighborhood on February 22, 2013 at 2:21 AM