Obama hits back: Romney’s a big flip-flopping fan of mandates, you know

posted at 4:46 pm on July 6, 2012 by Allahpundit

You know that jobs report was bad when this guy would rather talk about the trillion-dollar albatross perched on his head instead.

A pro-mandate Democrat who can’t get his story straight on whether it’s a tax attacking a pro-mandate Republican because he can’t get his story straight on whether it’s a tax. Perfection. Choices, my friends: They’re what elections are all about.

“One of the things that you learn as president is that what you say matters and your principles matter,” Obama told a local Cincinnati NBC affiliate, according to excerpts provided by his campaign. “And sometimes, you’ve got to fight for things that you believe in and you can’t just switch on a dime.”…

“And the fact that a whole bunch of Republicans in Washington suddenly said this is a tax — for six years he said it wasn’t, and now he has suddenly reversed himself,” Obama noted. “So the question becomes, are you doing that because of politics? Are you abandoning a principle that you fought for, for six years, simply because you’re getting pressure for two days from Rush Limbaugh or some critics in Washington?”…

“On the healthcare bill, Mr. Romney was one of the biggest promoters of the individual mandate,” he said. “In Massachusetts, his whole idea was that we shouldn’t have people who can afford to get health insurance to not buy it and then force you or me or John Q. Public to have to pay for him when he gets sick. That’s irresponsible. That’s exactly what’s included as part of my healthcare plan.”

To recap: The One campaigned against Hillary by opposing the mandate, then reversed himself once in office. He did damage control by swearing that it wasn’t a tax, then had his own SG tell the Supreme Court that it was, then let his campaign spokesman go out this week and lie his ass off about what had happened. Meanwhile, just to locate this within O’s wider campaign strategy, he spent 15 years transparently lying about his position on gay marriage before magically “evolving” a few months ago, and he just recently decided that he could in fact implement chunks of the DREAM Act by executive fiat even though he said last year that he couldn’t. If you believe Marc Ambinder and GQ, the White House is planning to start pushing for reforms to America’s drug-war strategy — but not until next year, as to do so now would be too risky for the Unicorn Prince’s chances in November.

And yet it’s Obama who’s lecturing Romney about fighting for what you believe in and not turning on a dime.

I wonder if he’d dare do that in any context except health care, as it’s the one policy area where he really did make good on his promise to the left to get something big done. Somehow it’s hard to imagine President “Kill List” sounding quite so superior about principles if this were a debate over, say, counterterrorism and national security. Give him credit for a smooth bit of messaging, though, in navigating the left’s two contradictory narratives about Romney. One: He’s a tea-party radical far to the right of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. Two: He’s a political weathervane who stands for nothing. By demagoging Rush Limbaugh, Obama gets to have it both ways — Romney’s a weathervane who stands for nothing and can therefore be manipulated by radicals to the right of Goldwater and Reagan. Click the image to watch.


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Albatross!

Albatross!

Perhaps O’Butthead can start selling it door to door.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on July 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Tax, or no tax? This old thread, right from HA itself in 2010, is rather amusing to read:

NYT: Obama WH will argue ObamaCare mandate is a tax

Here’s a good link from within it: The Insurance Mandate in Peril: First Congress said it was a regulation of commerce. Now it’s supposed to be a tax. Neither claim will survive Supreme Court scrutiny.

Bizarro No. 1 on July 6, 2012 at 9:47 PM

What’s really sad is how inept this whole piece of legislation was. The old Democrats, those from the 30′s who saddled us with Social Security and those from the 60′s who saddled us with Medicare, knew they couldn’t make it partisan legislation, if it was to succeed. This bunch, with Obama leading, said, “We’ve got the votes, screw the Republicans.” Well, they got what they wanted, a bill that appeals to exactly the number of people it should, partisan Democrats who make up less than 50% of the population. This wasn’t just ignorance that got them to this place in time, it was arrogance and arrogance on a Presidential Level. If they had any adult leadership in Congress, this wouldn’t have happened, but they didn’t.

This election is going to decide if Obamacare stays. If this election turns out like 2010, it will be a mandate to get rid of Obamacare. If the Democrats refuse to recognize that, I’m not sure where the country goes, but it’s going to be a serious problem, especially if we have a Republican President along with a Republican Senate and House.

bflat879 on July 6, 2012 at 10:00 PM

You know that jobs report was bad when this guy would rather talk about the trillion-dollar albatross perched on his head instead.

Congrats, AP – you just topped Stephen Crane’s “The Open Boat” for my favorite opening sentence.

redmama on July 6, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Bring it on, Barry. This isn’t the Harvard commons and nobody cares that your a pompous, Affirmative Action, pampered snob. Welcome to a real campaign after four years of destroying this nation on every level.

Hening on July 6, 2012 at 10:32 PM

What they do in Massachusetts doesn’t affect me. What they do in Washington D.C. does.

Ken James on July 6, 2012 at 11:05 PM

A pro-mandate Democrat who can’t get his story straight on whether it’s a tax attacking a pro-mandate Republican because he can’t get his story straight on whether it’s a tax. Perfection. Choices, my friends: They’re what elections are all about.

This is high quality.

Spliff Menendez on July 6, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Romney might as well let Obie talk himself out.

It is the wrong time to argue tax versus mandate. Romney doesnt have to hit the issue until the debates. Until then, his only issue is the way obamcare kills jobs and economic growth. Jobs first, to save the nation

Right now the argument about taxing obscures the real source of rage. It is up to Romney to let the public know Obama is trying to hide behind old arguments while the nation sinks like a rock.

Tax, schmax, its the economy stupid

Roberts did a gold ole job messing up the future. No sense wasting time on something you cannot change with the present court

Rush is so good right now, it is amazing. The Club did everyone a favor disowning Rush – in public – a few years back. No one can form an argument like the Rushbo and he has become a champion for the masses. He is the only wonk who doesnt overload his arguments so they become so top heavy the audience loses track. Frankly he is not inbred like the beltway and his IQ is higher. Plus he’s a patriot

entagor on July 6, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Mitt needs to stay away from tit-4-tat with Obama and make jobs and the economy the centerpiece of his campaign. Ignore the dem’s and their henchmen. And no generalizations, Mitt but more specifics – such as bringing back manufacturing and industrial jobs to the US. DD

Darvin Dowdy on July 7, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Barack & forth:
Mr Obama is quite a flip-flopper himself.
I compiled this list in my blog some months before Obama was elected President. I should’ve kept adding; it would be well past 100 by now.

1) was against 1990s welfare reform, now for it
2) was for Washington, DC gun ban, now against it
3) was against death penalty for any reason, now favors it for child rapists and Osama Bin Laden
4) was against NAFTA, now for it
5) was against Cuban embargo, now for it
6) promised to accept campaign spending limits/matching funds if McCain did, now refuses to participate even though McCain does
7) was “strongly” against FISA, then voted for it
8) was against homosexual marriage, now supports it (a rare leftward move)
9) was against personally displaying patriotism via flag lapel pins, now wears one
10) was against Jerusalem being the undivided capital of Israel, now for it
11) was for chatting unconditionally with Iran’s President AckMyDumbJihad, now for conditions
12) had promised never to “disown” Reverend Wright, now Wright is disowned
13) for 20 years was for family’s membership in hateful so-called “Trinity Church”, now against it
14) was for mental health exceptions for allowing partial-birth abortions, now against them
15) voted against laws protecting abortion survivors, now for such laws
16) claimed to be for several town hall-style debates with Senator McCain before the conventions, but his campaign later said only one, and only at a time no one would watch (Independence Day)
17) promised to never use negative ads, yet started using them against McCain before McCain went negative
18) was against President Bush’s faith-based initiatives, now for them
19) had demanded that Bush boycott Olympic opening ceremonies, then he financially supported the ceremonies by buying advertising time during them
20) was for pulling troops out of Iraq per timetable, with little or no regard to conditions, now “entirely conditions-based”
21) two years ago, promised to bring assistance to impoverished African school where 10 of his relatives attend, but nothing yet
22) said in June that “my party” wouldn’t take money from lobbyists, but as of late July his campaign as well as his party have accepted tens of thousands of dollars from individual registered lobbyists
23) was against all offshore drilling, now for it as long as it’s “carefully circumscribed”
24) as of 7/7, was against using oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to bring about a “decrease in gas prices”, now for it
25) was for punishing Michigan and Florida delegates by not seating them at the Dem convention, now he wants them seated
26) said in June that “my party” wouldn’t take money from PACs, but as of mid-August he’s accepting large donations from PACs and unions
27) said before PA primary, no “bagmen”*, but will have them for general election
28) was against 527s (PACs, special-interest groups, and non-affiliated political allies) advertising in his behalf, but now he’s allowing it
29) was for raising taxes on many individuals and corporations, but now that the economy is better, he says those tax increases will have to wait until the economy is much better
30) called for bipartisan commission on Wall Street oversight in April, but after McCain recently agreed, Obama rejected the idea as a political dodge (“We’ll get back to ya”)
31) said every candidate should reveal complete earmark history when it was him vs. Hillary, but now that earmark king Biden is his partner, secrecy is OK
32) 2/11/07: “We… have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted.” 9/26/08: “No US soldier ever dies in vain.”
33) In January, told the San Fran Chronicle he would “bankrupt” the coal industry, but after he won the Dem nomination he came out in favor of coal

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Holy shite, Allah sounded like a pissed off conservative! There is hope in this election after all!

specialkayel on July 7, 2012 at 2:00 AM

What they do in Massachusetts doesn’t affect me. What they do in Washington D.C. does.

Ken James on July 6, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Hey, TehWon is arguing in principle and he’s reaching out to the independents = generally people who hate the lies of both parties.

He’s not reaching out to you.

Sadly, the Republican Nominee has none coz he himself is the biggest flip-flopper of them all, bigger than TehWon.

Oohh lala!

TheAlamos on July 7, 2012 at 5:52 AM

I wonder if he’d dare do that in any context except health care, as it’s the one policy area where he really did make good on his promise to the left to get something big done.

Why would he do that? Bwahahah.

The main issue of the day is Obamacare and its constitutionality. On the other side of the road, Demoncrats are telling the idiotpendents that TheRealObama succeeded in taking the higher f’cking road when it comes to “access to all” principle of healthcare, undermining “property rights”.

And your FakeNLiteObama clearly stated that the only significant thing about the 4-year rule of TheRealObama was Obamacare, which is a major sh*t.

So, at the moment, TheRealObama is p*ssing on HealthCare and Mandate.

Good strategy for the TehWon.

Romneybots like you Allahpundit will have to drink on that piss.

Goodluck in November!

TheAlamos on July 7, 2012 at 6:02 AM

“This Presidentin’ sure is hard work!”
/PBHO

Khun Joe on July 7, 2012 at 7:21 AM

So Obama is hypocritical in accusing Romney of changing positions or ‘evolving’ on policy issues?
Ok. But here’s a huge difference – Obama’s shifts tend to come from a confidence that allows him to more fully embrace the progressive ideas pretty much everyone agrees he’s more genuinely inclined towards (SSM, immigration reform, etc. ). But Romney shifts away from what most agree are his genuine postions out of fear…the concern that conservatives don’t ‘trust’ him. Both of these guys are largley pro-choice, in favor of the concepts of ACA, for immigration reform that includes amnesty, etc.
But only one of them admits it.

verbaluce on July 7, 2012 at 7:27 AM

Election 2012

Etch-A-Sketch (D) vs. Etch-A-Sketch (R)

dforston on July 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

of course… and some people wonder why Ron Paul was so popular!

nathor on July 7, 2012 at 8:34 AM

So Obama is hypocritical in accusing Romney of changing positions or ‘evolving’ on policy issues?
Ok. But here’s a huge difference – Obama’s shifts tend to come from a confidence that allows him to more fully embrace the progressive ideas pretty much everyone agrees he’s more genuinely inclined towards (SSM, immigration reform, etc. ). But Romney shifts away from what most agree are his genuine postions out of fear…the concern that conservatives don’t ‘trust’ him. Both of these guys are largley pro-choice, in favor of the concepts of ACA, for immigration reform that includes amnesty, etc.
But only one of them admits it.

verbaluce on July 7, 2012 at 7:27 AM

resuming, they are both libs, but one is pretending he is not. just great :(

nathor on July 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Jobs first, to save the nation

The Soviets all had jobs -freedom is what is at risk here folks. Keep your eye on the ball – having rewarding jobs are the product of a free people and that our freedom is what they are trying the most to take away while we cry about jobs.

Don L on July 7, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Election 2012

Etch-A-Sketch (D) vs. Etch-A-Sketch (R)

dforston on July 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I nominate this as the quote of the campaign!

Don L on July 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Romneybots like you Allahpundit will have to drink on that piss.

Goodluck in November!

TheAlamos on July 7, 2012 at 6:02 AM

wow.just.wow!..You make me want to join the tea party/////..:)

Dire Straits on July 7, 2012 at 8:52 AM

I nominate this as the quote of the campaign!

Don L on July 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Why does that not suprise me!..:)

Dire Straits on July 7, 2012 at 8:53 AM

“I suspect that most people in Cincinnati would acknowledge that I’ve tried real hard, and we haven’t gotten the Republicans to engage on a whole range of issues that, I wish had happened,” Obama said in an interview with WLWT-TV in Cincinnati, Ohio.

“Part of what I think needs to happen in this election is the voters once again have to send a message, ‘We want common sense ideas. We don’t folks who are just saying no to everything. Even stuff, traditionally [they] were in favor of,” Obama said.

THAT is what we want…………just effort.

Not jobs.

Not you destroying our economy.

Not you taking over Healthcare.

We just wanted the big widdle Pwesident to wascally jus twy…..just twy, such a big boy heeee is.

Disgusting.

PappyD61 on July 7, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Well you see it’s one thing for a state to have mandates, but another for all fifty states to have mandates. One, Fifty, a difference !! President Axelrod and his stooge could only get away with this stupidity with the help of a conniving media. Still, they’re to dumb to notice.

arand on July 7, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Yes, but the average person will understand the difference between a mandate in a plan created for an individual state and a mandate for the nation as a whole once it’s explained to them.

eyedoc on July 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Obama hits back: Romney’s a blah blah blah blah blah blah

Yeah whatever, champ.

Kenosha Kid on July 7, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Yeah whatever, champ.

Kenosha Kid on July 7, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Heh

Obama mmight as well save his air for later, no one is listening.

Romney figured it out already and kept it to a one liner – kick in the gut. Pretty good. The line stuck and has staying power. He’s the first one since Palin to land one. It humanized him

I would work that line more – later. It would work well in late election talk

Cannot imagine a Kerry landing one of those zingers. While Romney is protrayed as an elite, he does not have the Kerry detach.

Obama isnt capable because he has no empathy. Obama cant throw a ball, and he cant land one either.

entagor on July 7, 2012 at 2:06 PM

What they do in Massachusetts doesn’t affect me. What they do in Washington D.C. does.

Ken James on July 6, 2012 at 11:05 PM

WRONG!

Very wrong. You and I are paying for the deficit, currently ore than $500 MILLLION per year and rising, for RomneyCare. I really wouldn’t give crap about what they do in MA except that I am paying for the choices they make. For the choice Romney made, to be exact.

Learn some facts. Let’s not have another “bash Romeny thread”, as along as you people stop posting lies.

riddick on July 7, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Election 2012

Etch-A-Sketch (D) vs. Etch-A-Sketch (R)

dforston on July 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

This. The only reason to vote for Romney is he’s white.

The Republican primary is over!

But the convention hasn’t made Etch-A-Sketch(R) official, so honesty still has a shot.

SDN on July 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM

Legit criticism!This is what you get when you nominate the one guy who has absolutely no ability to take on Obama on what should be the biggest issue in the campaign.

redware on July 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Sorry, I read the headline and all I can see is Odumbo in a limp wristed slap fight.

waterytart on July 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

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