Quotes of the day

posted at 8:15 pm on July 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

The assumption of natural rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence can be summed up by the following proposition: “first comes rights, then comes government.” According to this view: (1) the rights of individuals do not originate with any government, but preexist its formation; (2) The protection of these rights is the first duty of government; and (3) Even after government is formed, these rights provide a standard by which its performance is measured and, in extreme cases, its systemic failure to protect rights — or its systematice violation of rights — can justify its alteration or abolition; (4) At least some of these rights are so fundamental that they are “inalienable,” meaning they are so intimately connected to one’s nature as a human being that they cannot be transferred to another even if one consents to do so. This is powerful stuff.

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By 1776, the Atlantic Ocean had become what one historian has called “an information highway” across which poured books, magazines, newspapers and copies of the debates in Parliament. The latter were read by John Adams, George Washington, Robert Morris and other politically minded men. They concluded that the British were planning to tax the Americans into the kind of humiliation that Great Britain had inflicted on Ireland.

As eight years of war engulfed the continent, not a few of the rebels saw that the Revolution was a spiritual enterprise that would never really end. Dr. Benjamin Rush, a Pennsylvanian who signed the Declaration of Independence, wrote that the war was only the first step in the Revolution’s destiny to transform America and the world.

History confirmed his intuition. In the next hundred years, other nations and peoples would issue 200 similar declarations.

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But then came the late 1960s, and over the next two decades American individualism was fully unleashed. A kind of tacit grand bargain was forged between the counterculture and the establishment, between the forever-young and the moneyed.

Going forward, the youthful masses of every age would be permitted as never before to indulge their self-expressive and hedonistic impulses. But capitalists in return would be unshackled as well, free to indulge their own animal spirits with fewer and fewer fetters in the forms of regulation, taxes or social opprobrium.

“Do your own thing” is not so different than “every man for himself.” If it feels good, do it, whether that means smoking weed and watching porn and never wearing a necktie, retiring at 50 with a six-figure public pension and refusing modest gun regulation, or moving your factories overseas and letting commercial banks become financial speculators. The self-absorbed “Me” Decade, having expanded during the ’80s and ’90s from personal life to encompass the political economy, will soon be the “Me” Half-Century.

People on the political right have blamed the late ’60s for what they loathe about contemporary life — anything-goes sexuality, cultural coarseness, multiculturalism. And people on the left buy into that, seeing only the ’60s legacies of freedom that they define as progress. But what the left and right respectively love and hate are mostly flip sides of the same libertarian coin minted around 1967. Thanks to the ’60s, we are all shamelessly selfish.

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Little by little, the home of the brave and the land of the free has become a nation of rent-seeking dependents clamoring for their share of state largess. Even before the latest entitlement blowout called Obamacare, we crossed the line where more than half of Americans receive some kind of assistance from the government every month, paid for by the fewer than half that still pay income taxes. As we move into the future and the number of dependents grows while the taxpayer pool shrinks, we call the result social justice rather than its old name: theft.

Our forefathers shed blood rather than render unto King George. Yet today we madly mortgage our nation’s future to foreign powers, piling debt upon debt without limit or thought as to how it will be repaid. These debts ensnare our children and grandchildren even as we stop having them, confident in the knowledge that the government will take care of us in our old age, so why bother with the trouble and expense?

If we were still a nation capable of shame with enough intellectual integrity to call things as they are, if we hadn’t debauched our language as badly as our currency, if we had the courage to look in the mirror and see how woefully we have squandered our Founders’ legacy, this Fourth of July would be a day not of celebration but of atonement.

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Via Mediaite.


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Dreams of my Country.

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Come back from a walk and decided that this is a Personal Independence Day. I have decided to go Galt.

From a book I read:

“People driven by success are rarely satisfied, no matter how high they climb-no accomplishment gives lasting satisfaction. Whenever they reach one level of success, they imagine yet another, higher level. The income they once dreamed of now looks like a starvation salary. It comes down to this: people who equate happiness with success will never achieve enough success to be happy. They’re like Sisyphus, interminably pushing a rock up a hill. Ironically, Sisyphus’s only period of happiness was probably that short moment when the rock was rolling down-when he wasn’t pushing, when he had time for self-reflection.”

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 8:17 PM

First?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AMERICA!

RedNewEnglander on July 4, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I watched The Patriot on Netflix.
We are screwed, but not as screwed as we were in 1776.

the new aesthetic on July 4, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Barrack Obamma will be a dreadful, embarrassing footnote in American history.

American Idol President.
No talent.
No backbone.
No there, there.

the new aesthetic on July 4, 2012 at 8:19 PM

No link or embed of Netanyahu’s remarks on our Independence Day?

Ok, here it is.

Wish our guy understood The DoI as well as Bibi does.

knob on July 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM

i wish Jon Robberts well.

the new aesthetic on July 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM

American Idol President.
No talent.
No backbone.
No there, there.

the new aesthetic on July 4, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Remember “Sanjaya”?

arnold ziffel on July 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM

I guess King George got the last laugh…after all.

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM

It’s so hot!

Happy birthday America. May we do your proud in November.

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

“May providence have mercy on our nation, lest we end up getting what we deserve…”

Voting these things out of office won’t be enough for me…

… It’s time to hold individuals accountable.

Seven Percent Solution on July 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Shameless I am :
http://www.therightscoop.com/irs-whistleblower-blows-the-roof-off-irs-tax-fraud/
but it needs to be seen

burrata on July 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Good for you. I went semi-Galt (even before I knew “Who is John Galt” … Reading Atlas Shrugged was like reading my own thoughts, except with railroads and an amazing motor) 21 years ago, and Full Galt when they nominated McCain.

Not one moments regret for doing it.

LegendHasIt on July 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Man, is it miserable out…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I guess King George got the last laugh…after all.

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM

The colonies revolted over a lot less grievances than we now have against emperor Baracka the Magnificent I and his cohorts—-repub and dem.

arnold ziffel on July 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

No link or embed of Netanyahu’s remarks on our Independence Day?

Ok, here it is.

Wish our guy understood The DoI as well as Bibi does.

knob on July 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Thank you for that…!

*clink*

Seven Percent Solution on July 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Wish our guy understood The DoI as well as Bibi does.

knob on July 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM

You can say that again!

If it were possible, I’d want Bibi as our President.

PatriotGal2257 on July 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Little by little, the home of the brave and the land of the free has become a nation of rent-seeking dependents

Think we can claim them as dependents on our taxes?

:-)

lynncgb on July 4, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Wish our guy understood The DoI as well as Bibi does.

knob on July 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Oh he understands it alright. That’s why he is at war with it.

VorDaj on July 4, 2012 at 8:43 PM

left-libs like kurt anderson can never understand conservatives. he can only create stramen and then say..the libertine and the right have done damage to this country

i’m sure that goes over well with the david brooks crowd, but actually it is more complex. I’m sure that he’s for very high taxes, maybe a robin hood tax, etc. etc. etc.

i’m sure he agrees with V. Jarett that a rich nation like ours can Provide h/c for all of its citizens

yet, he talks about things simple mindedly..that we are all selfish

right…and he lives in a city that is mostly paid for by other peoples money…pretty selfish of you kurt

r keller on July 4, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Richard Henry Lee, a delegate from Virginia, had introduced the resolution to adopt the Declaration of Independence in June of 1776. He was prophetic in his concluding remarks:

“Why then sir, why do we longer delay? Why still deliberate? Let this happy day give birth to an American Republic. Let her arise not to devastate and to conquer but to reestablish the reign of peace and law. The eyes of Europe are fixed upon us. She demands of us a living example of freedom that may exhibit a contrast in the felicity of the citizen to the ever increasing tyranny which desolates her polluted shores. She invites us to prepare an asylum where the unhappy may find solace, and the persecuted repost. If we are not this day wanting in our duty, the names of the American Legislatures of 1776 will be placed by posterity at the side of all of those whose memory has been and ever will be dear to virtuous men and good citizens.”

“Our Lives, Our Fortunes, Our Sacred Honor”

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM

If it were possible, I’d want Bibi as our President.

PatriotGal2257 on July 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Oh, it’s possible. Anything can be done today. Just ask Chief Roberts.

platypus on July 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Man, is it miserable out…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Sure is!! My lil ole air conditioner has been running non-stop for over a week. $$$$$

bluealice on July 4, 2012 at 8:47 PM

I guess King George got the last laugh…after all.

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Ya gotta wonder if he isn’t going “Ha ha ha! You rabble kicked out king and crown to replace it with THIS?”

MelonCollie on July 4, 2012 at 8:47 PM

*clink* all around

we got some rain today…pure joy :)

drank a few cervesas this pm…feeling good Lewis

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 8:48 PM

May we do your proud in November.

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

amen gg

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 8:49 PM

If America can’t handle this at the ballot box, she deserves what she gets.

God Bless America. Happy Independence Day.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 8:54 PM

*clink* all around

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 8:48 PM

*clink*

I remember when I lived in Mesa..
When it rained…
It poured…

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

I’d kill for some rain, cms…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

knob on July 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Bibi’s brother ,Yoni, was killed in Entebbe July 4, 1976.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Man, is it miserable out…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Sure is!! My lil ole air conditioner has been running non-stop for over a week. $$$$$

bluealice on July 4, 2012 at 8:47 PM

It was horrible out there today. Started golfing at 10 a.m. and all of us were near collapse by the end. No amount of water, shade, or rest was enough. I came home and laid down on the bed, promptly fell asleep for three hours and woke up feeling as dehydrated as I’ve felt in some time.

predator on July 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

I’d kill for some rain, cms…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Just checked your weather online…

79 degrees is your lows?

:(

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

we got some rain today…pure joy :)

drank a few cervesas this pm…feeling good Lewis

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Auuugghh! Rain! Gimme, gimme! The midwest is burning.

predator on July 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

But then came the late 1960s, and over the next two decades American individualism was fully unleashed. A kind of tacit grand bargain was forged between the counterculture and the establishment, between the forever-young and the moneyed.

Dang those people over at the NYT are both stupid and ignorant of history. There was great expansion in thought and inventiveness before the 60′s when the liberals writing at the NYT were apparently semi-conscious. That was nothing but a bunch of strawmen trying to justify the damage that those idiots did to the country during the 60′s, now coming home to roost. When you look at the author’s bio, it all comes clear, he was a rich man’s son who was ashamed of success. Apparently didn’t read much history either; IIRC Rockefeller, Gould, Hearst, and the others who showed extravagance with their wealth came before the 1960′s. Yeah, he got the last sentence right too, he is a preachy liberal communist fool.

AZfederalist on July 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Happy Birthday America!

Around 4 months from now, we get to “fix it”…

Khun Joe on July 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Voting these things out of office won’t be enough for me…

… It’s time to hold individuals accountable.

Seven Percent Solution on July 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM

That’s right, every time I see a cigarette smoking, tattoed up, scraggly, overweight, professional baby maker, getting out of their car in a handicap space, talkin on their free Obama phone, I want to say have you no SHAME, grab the thing from their hands and stomp it to smithereens while saying, “there I paid for it with the money I didn’t spend on tattoos, cigarettes,fast food, booze and drugs so its mine and you can’t have it anymore!
Or just stop at have you no shame!

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Oh, it’s possible. Anything can be done today. Just ask Chief Roberts.

platypus on July 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Yup, call it a Bibi Tax !

burrata on July 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

yepper, in the nw valley here…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

i hear ya OC…will try to send some your way…

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Luntzs’ special roundtable on FOX!

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

predator on July 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

how long are you all going to be burning up? any relief coming?

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Allen West on Hannity! Luntz special!

Philly on July 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

we got some rain today…pure joy :)

drank a few cervesas this pm…feeling good Lewis

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Auuugghh! Rain! Gimme, gimme! The midwest is burning.

predator on July 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Rain??? Don’t remember it…

bluealice on July 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

These men knew what they risked. The penalty for treason was death by hanging. And remember: a great British fleet was already at anchor in New York Harbor.

They were sober men. There were no dreamy-eyed intellectuals or draft card burners here. They were far from hot-eyed fanatics, yammering for an explosion. They simply asked for the status quo. It was change they resisted. It was equality with the mother country they desired. It was taxation with representation they sought. They were all conservatives, yet they rebelled.

It was principle, not property, that had brought these men to Philadelphia. Source

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Amen, Az, did you just request some Todd Rundgren?

the new aesthetic on July 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

thanks for the heads up

colonel west…go buddy!

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

All this talk about heat..

You and your neighbors obviously didn’t take Obama’s US Secretary of Energy and a Nobel prize-winning scientist, Steven Chu, idea of painting all your roofs white..

Oh…
And because of this inactivity…..

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

dems giving west a lower score than gop natch

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

west given that youngin’ a lesson…

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 9:05 PM

As we move into the future and the number of dependents grows while the taxpayer pool shrinks, we call the result social justice rather than its old name: theft.

…November is our future!

KOOLAID2 on July 4, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Alan West knockin it outta the park! On Luntzs panel

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:08 PM

79 degrees is your lows?

:(

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

AC has been running nonstop for a week now, and I mostly go outside to smoke…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Whoootttt ISSA up next on Luntzs panel wonder how many on panel even know what fast and Furious is

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I watched The Patriot on Netflix.
We are screwed, but not as screwed as we were in 1776.
the new aesthetic on July 4, 2012 at 8:18 PM

No. We are worse off than they. They at least were engaged in a struggle within the framework of a Biblical worldview. Our struggle is between what’s left of that perspective and it’s antithesis.

The writer for the New York Times has inadvertently swerved into it although he can’t seem to make the connection as to the source of the change – the rejection, as a culture, of the Biblical framework from which this country’s principles were derived.

Cleombrotus on July 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Loved listening to Allen West on Luntz’s special. Issa next.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM

As we move into the future and the number of dependents grows while the taxpayer pool shrinks, we call the result social justice rather than its old name: theft.

Racist !!!!

burrata on July 4, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Happy Birthday America!

Around 4 months from now, we get to “fix it”…

Khun Joe on July 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

First we stop the bleeding. Then we armtwist Romney and 51 senators to take a chainsaw to Obamacare. There’s a lot more moochers than there were in 2010, so it’s an uphill battle to say the least.

TxAnn56 on July 4, 2012 at 9:14 PM

West needs to speak in this tone more often. Sometimes he gets a little strong…

Barred on July 4, 2012 at 9:14 PM

No. We are worse off than they.

Cleombrotus on July 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Yes, and no. Our real enemy today is domestic, so therefore more insidious. Much like de Tocqueville predicted.

However, we haven’t come close to the sacrifice our forefathers gave. Those men gave it all. Most of us are just whining on the internet.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:15 PM

John Roberts must be feeling really f***ing good today.

ObamaCare stands, America teeters toward economic ruin (Obama’s aim), and the Leftist Establishment adores him. They’re kissing him all over that rigid smiling face.

minnesoter on July 4, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Roberts is a squish. Romney is a squish. None of this should be a surprise to anyone.

We better figure out how to deal with it.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Roberts is a squish. Romney is a squish. None of this should be a surprise to anyone.

We better figure out how to deal with it.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Get the Hussein out of the WH…

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:22 PM

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness?”

… and “Taxes” “Penalties”, don’t forget the “Taxes” “Penalties” if you don’t participate in a government mandated behavior.

Oh, and “Debt”, you can’t forget “Debt”, to the tune of +$16 Trillion and growing…

… but don’t worry about that, the only thing that truly counts is if the New York Times likes you.

Seven Percent Solution on July 4, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Get the Hussein out of the WH…

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:22 PM

That’d be a great first step.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:23 PM

The concept of “unalienable rights” is only possible in a construct that involves deity. In a purely material construct, there are no such things as “rights” except if you want to concede that people are allowed to grant these to each other… but even then, there is no such thing as a right that cannot be abridged if people decide it can be abridged. Nothing is unalienable in that construct.

mankai on July 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Been playing on You Tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJNqep77vBw

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Just saw an ad from Americans for Prosperity. In the 30 second spot they hit Obama 3 or 4 times for sticking Americans with the largest tax increase in history after he had promised he wouldn’t raise taxes.

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM

There’s a lot more moochers than there were in 2010, so it’s an uphill battle to say the least.

TxAnn56 on July 4, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Remember Cloward-Piven and what they wanted to accomplish ?
BTW, check this out, how a Republican is trying to please an actual racist thief Conyers :

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/michigan-governor-vetoes-voter-id-elections-reform-laws/

burrata on July 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Little by little, the home of the brave and the land of the free has become a nation of rent-seeking dependents clamoring for their share of state largess.

Damn, AP, that’s a good one. Mark Levin had a caller last night who wished him a “happy Dependence Day.” Oy! Cheers! and Happy July 4th to you and your loved ones.

minnesoter on July 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM

That’d be a great first step.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:23 PM

One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind..

This country has done it before..

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/michigan-governor-vetoes-voter-id-elections-reform-laws/

burrata on July 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM

just saw this on another site…cripe….what an idiot

cmsinaz on July 4, 2012 at 9:27 PM

I gotta admit I was bummed today, but all the positive notes here from everyone talking about Nov. was really cool. It helped. A heartfelt thanks to those that bouyed the rest of us.

I’m hanging in and fighting like hell till Nov. PRAYING we win. If we do it’s a good start. If we don’t I’m done and leaving the grid.

There are some amazing people here. Everyday, not just today, I can find hope and wisdom.

So thanks for that.

wolly4321 on July 4, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM

I’ve seen that one too – it’s great

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Damn, AP, that’s a good one. Mark Levin had a caller last night who wished him a “happy Dependence Day.” Oy! Cheers! and Happy July 4th to you and your loved ones.

minnesoter on July 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Before you leave, you seem to be confused about the QOTD. They are not written by Allah. They are a culmination of snippets from different articles around the internet. Clicking on the links will take you to the entire article.

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:31 PM

This country has done it before..

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Yes. We did in in 2010, we did it in Wisconsin.

If we won’t fight for freedom, we deserve what we get.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:31 PM

I can’t make to the fireworks locally, I’m gonna keep an eye on the Statue of Liberty cam (great live streaming video), which is from the Lady’s POV.

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/statueofliberty/?cam=liberty_hd

Ugly on July 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Watching Yankee Doodle Dandy with James Cagney for about the zillionth time. This is the first time I’ve felt so melancholy watching it.

TxAnn56 on July 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

I’ve seen that one too – it’s great

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 9:29 PM

I heart youtube.

http://youtu.be/8oE5guoix3w

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

If we won’t fight for freedom, we deserve what we get.

TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:31 PM

True dat..

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:35 PM

TxAnn56 on July 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

We’re watching it too. My husband HATES musicals-but this is the SECOND musical I’ve gotten him glue to today.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 4, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I heart youtube.

http://youtu.be/8oE5guoix3w

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Heh

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Luntz in a suit and tennis shoes, dunce!

Something about that kind of dress screams liberal at me tennis shoes and suits do not mix!

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:39 PM

One of the keys to saving our country is electing more conservatives to Congress, should Obama somehow get reelected of to keep Romney in check should he get elected.

While newspaper circulation is down and fewer people tune in the evening news. don’t discount the power of the MSM to sway the election just as it swayed the vote of Chief Justice Roberts.

bw222 on July 4, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Something about that kind of dress screams liberal at me tennis shoes and suits do not mix!

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:39 PM

That’s how Matt Millen dresses. Look what he did for the Detroit Lions.

bw222 on July 4, 2012 at 9:41 PM

I can’t make it to the fireworks locally, so I’m gonna keep an eye on the Statue of Liberty cam (great live streaming video), which is from the Lady’s torch POV.

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/statueofliberty/?cam=liberty_hd

Ugly on July 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Jeez. I left out three words that time. I should work as a journalist.

Ugly on July 4, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Yes, and no. Our real enemy today is domestic, so therefore more insidious. Much like de Tocqueville predicted.
However, we haven’t come close to the sacrifice our forefathers gave. Those men gave it all. Most of us are just whining on the internet.
TitularHead on July 4, 2012 at 9:15 PM

True. But do you understand why I say we are worse off?

If they had lost, the basis upon which they determined what was true or false in human conduct and a proper social system would have remained intact and more than likely they would have eventually prevailed. Just as slavery HAD to come to an end given the moral consensus of their day, so the usurpations of their individual rights eventually would have given way to the liberties we now enjoy.

But if WE lose, the very basis upon which we interpret reality is threatened. That is what is really at stake here. Although she was rigidly anti-religious, Ayn Rand saw that the enemy we face is a Hegelian/ Kantian Collectivist mentality which hates that which is right and true.

It is not merely a political struggle we are engaged in but a spiritual one which manifests itself in the political.

Cleombrotus on July 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM

But capitalists in return would be unshackled as well, free to indulge their own animal spirits with fewer and fewer fetters in the forms of regulation, taxes or social opprobrium

Funny, I see capitalism shackled by an endless stack of regulation. None of my business owner friends would be able to start their businesses in today’s climate.

Mini-14 on July 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM

“I don’t think that we can make judgments based on peoples’ spirit,” Obama said. … “Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery, but taking painkillers.” – FORWARD

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:43 PM

http://youtu.be/8oE5guoix3w

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Now thats an ad! short, sweet voice, telling the story, those read only things to music are a waste of money! people are not that engaged, those read only ads are like junk mail, or phone solicitations, history, annoying, more damage than good.

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:44 PM

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 9:44 PM

I too prefer voice-over and text ads as opposed to just text and music.

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:48 PM

“My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off if you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” – FORWARD

Electrongod on July 4, 2012 at 9:48 PM

It was change they resisted. It was equality with the mother country they desired. It was taxation with representation they sought. They were all conservatives, yet they rebelled.

It was principle, not property, that had brought these men to Philadelphia. Source

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

There is a lesson in there for the libs; they have pushed too far. Look where we’ve gone:

1) The founders empowered Congress to regulate interstate commerce. They clearly meant this to be regulating the actual commerce as it was crossing state lines and prohibiting the states from doing so. They had just dealt with all the problems of the Federation of States where states were putting tariffs on goods crossing their borders with other states.

Then we moved to the New Deal era
2) The federal government now started regulating the goods that would be crossing the state lines, most notably how much of those goods could be produced. Thus the agricultural allotments were born, regulating how much wheat, corn, or soybeans could be grown on an individual farmer’s land because wheat, corn, and soybeans were used in interstate commerce.

Which gave rise to the absolutely horrible wickard vs. filburn decision in which it was determined that
3) A farmer, raising wheat on his own land to feed his own chickens, wheat that would never leave the confines of his own land and possibly, the chickens may not have left the boundaries of his own land either, was engaged in interstate commerce because the wheat that he was raising could have been raised by someone in another state and that by raising his own wheat, this farmer was possibly depriving a farmer in another state of the ability to sell his grain. Therefore, because wheat was found to be an interstate commodity because it was traded across state lines, the government could therefore regulate not just the traffic of wheat across state lines, but production of wheat within state boundaries and now could regulate the production of wheat on an individuals farm even though that wheat would never leave the boundaries of that individual farm.

We then graduated to the government being able to regulate
4) The kind, types and characteristics of automobiles or other goods being produced anywhere because those goods would cross state lines as commerce

We now have the case where the government asserts
5) The right to regulate the production of various emissions within a state because those emissions might cross state boundaries

And finally, that gives rise to the latest usurpation of liberty:
6) The government can now tell citizens that they must engage in commerce of a specific kind or will be subject to a penalty tax for failing to have done so.

… and what exactly led to the first Declaration of Independence and American r.e.v.o.l.ution?

November is crucial; if we don’t win in November, then the options before us are even more bleak

AZfederalist on July 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

There is a lesson in there for the libs; they have pushed too far.

AZfederalist on July 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Well said. The leftists have no idea what they’ve created because of their bullying and overreach. I can’t wait until November.

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Happy Independence Day from my Puppy! Pic

Hope everyone had a safe & enjoyable day.

beancounter on July 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Happy Independence Day from my Puppy! Pic

Hope everyone had a safe & enjoyable day.

beancounter on July 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM

A red, white, and blue patriotic puppeh!

Very cool!

predator on July 4, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Happy Fourth!, spoil sport. Lol!

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 9:31 PM

That is a long established given in these precincts. I’m surprised any HA poster would be confused over that…

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Happy Fourth!, spoil sport. Lol!

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Uh oh! Sherman’s not going to be happy.

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 10:22 PM

For thr record, Allah shoots all the videos too.

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 10:24 PM

OmahaConservative on July 4, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Looks like your rain is on its way just east of N Platte

ConcealedKerry on July 4, 2012 at 10:25 PM

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