Quotes of the day

posted at 9:11 pm on July 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

Hostility toward the Supreme Court has risen sharply since Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. upheld the Obama health care law. People are apparently angry that the court didn’t rid them of a law they detest. But that’s silly. If Americans want to replace this thing, they should do it themselves

Republicans say they trust the people. If that’s true, then they won’t waste another futile breath bashing the court for upholding Obamacare. They’ll explicitly tell the country how they would replace it. Democracy is a contest between alternatives, not a deus ex machina stroke from the lords in black robes.

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It’s on his to-do list, but U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says the odds are against repealing the health care law championed by President Barack Obama…

“If you thought it was a good idea for the federal government to go in this direction, I’d say the odds are still on your side,” McConnell said. “Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”…

If given control of the Senate next year, McConnell said he would support using budget reconciliation rules to repeal it. Doing so would prohibit Senate filibusters and require only 51 votes to succeed. In 2010, Republicans lambasted Democrats for relying on these rules to pass the health care bill, calling their tactics unusual and hyperpartisan.

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So now McConnell says he will force the issue before the election and then make repeal of Obamacare priority number one if the GOP takes back the Senate, but the odds are against full repeal. This is code for Republican leaders, timid as they are and driven by polling, keeping parts of Obamacare instead of doing full repeal and starting over.

The truth is many Republicans like parts of Obamacare. The truth is a number of Senate Republicans were willing to vote back in December of 2009 that the individual mandate was unconstitutional while keeping their names on healthcare legislation by Senator Bob Bennett that had an individual mandate.

The truth is with Republican leaders like we have in both Houses, who needs the Democrats? It was not just Democrats responsible for $16 trillion in debt. Even now, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell and the rest are trying to find ways to weasel out of paying down the debt and bring back earmarks.

When Republicans won’t fight on their ground, they just won’t fight.

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Even if Republicans win big on Election Day, though, repealing the Affordable Care Act will be a tall order

For Republicans, the dream of using reconciliation to torpedo the law is predicated on winning a net of three Senate seats, retaining the House and winning the presidency. Then both chambers would have to pass a budget resolution that includes reconciliation instructions. Romney’s vice president would be called upon to break a possible 50-50 roll call in the Senate…

Then, in the Senate, once a reconciliation bill came to the floor, Democrats could challenge specific provisions. They could say, for example, that any savings from repealing certain parts of the healthcare law would only be incidental. If they won those challenges, those parts of the law would remain in place…

“I think the bottom line is, it’s plausible to use reconciliation, but it’s really hard to know which provisions will pass muster,” Binder said.

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Chief Justice John Roberts ruled that the financial penalty enforcing the individual mandate is within Congress’s constitutional power to “lay and collect Taxes,” and that the mandate and penalty are inextricably linked. This should suffice to enable repeal, through reconciliation, of both the individual and employer mandates, and their respective penalty taxes.

The state exchanges and insurance rules—”guaranteed issue,” which forces an insurer to sell a policy to someone who is already sick, and “community rating,” which severely limits the insurer’s right to charge that person a higher premium—are procedurally more difficult. Yet both are linked to the individual mandate, which increases taxes. Whether they can be repealed in a reconciliation bill will ultimately be decided by the Senate Parliamentarian.

Once the individual mandate is repealed, these popular insurance changes cannot stand by themselves. Without the mandate, people have every incentive to save on premiums and not buy insurance until they fall ill. This will send premiums through the roof for healthy people and, if the government clamps down on increased premiums, destroy private insurance companies. Those Republicans who say they favor legislated guaranteed-issue and community-rating requirements but oppose the mandate will be forced to acknowledge that all three must go.

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[W]e all know the GOP’s myriad failures of will and principle over recent years. But it’s time to act, not to bicker. As a practical matter, no Democrat is ever going to vote for repeal. John Tester can film a commercial with a gun to show he’s not one of those wussy coastal libs, but when he leaves Montana, off come the cowboy boots and on go the Birkenstocks and he’s a guaranteed vote against repeal.

A vote for any Democrat is a vote for Obamacare. A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama. Period. That’s just a fact. One can whine and complain and mope, but unless you are actively supporting the GOP down the line, you are supporting Obama and Obamacare.

But giving some money and your vote, even if Mitt infuriated you in the primary, is not enough. The counterattack needs your time.

It needs you to help with the crummy scut work of elections, knocking on doors and making calls. It needs you getting active in social media to spread the word and fight the smears – on Facebook, on Twitter, wherever. It needs you to talk to your friends and neighbors, particularly the dumb ones who tune into politics about 15 minutes before the polls open. The dumb ones are natural Obama voters and require your special attention.

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“All that [Court ruling] did was energize conservatives,” declared Rasmussen in an exclusive interview on Monday. “The conservative interest in the election was already much higher than that of moderates and liberals. It went up to really stratospheric levels right after the ruling. We don’t know if that will continue or if it’s just a temporary response to the news cycle.”…

“Now as for that vote next week, while people were calling it symbolic, one of the interesting things to watch will be how many Democratic congressmen will sign on and support the repeal,” Rasmussen said. “There will probably be a fair number of Democratic members of Congress who are too afraid for their own future to vote in support of the healthcare law.”

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In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News today, Senator McConnell put all … fears to rest. “I have said many times that if I’m the leader of the majority next year, I commit to the American people that the repeal of ‘Obamacare’ will be job one,” he reiterated. “That includes pursuing reconciliation. What people need to understand is that this is literally a fight for the future of our country and Democrats have proven during this debate that they will stop at nothing to protect this massive expansion of government into our lives and our health care. We need to be aware that this will take every ounce of our energy to accomplish.”

McConnell went on to explain that the fight would not stop with the election: “Our success is dependent upon the voices of the many who are concerned about Obamacare to get involved and stay involved. Do not shut up, do not sit down, do not be intimidated. Keep fighting with every ounce of energy you have. We’ll do the same. The road to repeal begins with a Republican Senate and Mitt Romney in the White House, but it won’t end for me until this historic mistake is wiped off the books for good.”

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Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Go, Sowell!

I just saw that at American Thinker.

INC on July 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I bet lotion boy prefers a different Divinyls song when viewing his Meggie Mac back fat portfolio…

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Who do you consider lotion boy to be – AP? renalin? FloatingRock? Joe Biden?

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Gotta roll.
As my friend Bmore says..bless the cup :)
I actually have some time off.
Good to see some good people here-and a special shout out to Predator.
Y’all take care and have a wonderful 4th.

bazil9 on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Thanks for the shout out, b9. You’re one of my favs. Have a wonderful Fourth and keep the faith. We will prevail.

And I’m gonna bless a little cup in your honor. *cheers*

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:20 AM

See clip I posted at the 12:15am..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:19 AM

I’m going rogue and am going to be one of those free riders/

JPeterman on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

KCB on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Yeah, I just heard of them too, I think thanks to a link from Cindy Munford.

bazil9 on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Goodnight bazil. Enjoy your holiday.

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:05 AM

which version do you like better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1lytua2dh4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ux4JDDFyzs

Might be slightly unfair, one is studio version, the other live.

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Who needs magic under wear when you can have a Johnson.

Take that Mitt.

SparkPlug on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Roberts has surrendered to the Law Review happy syndrome. This where liberal academics praise you for you brilliance surrender to meaningless political drivel designed to reconstruct the world these useless want it to be. And profit off of.

pat on July 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM

If the Rebulicans now in office are reluctant to repeal Obamacare, we can primary them in 2014. The Tea Party has a mission. Repeal Obamacare.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on July 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 12:17 AM

lolz..I hear you!..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM

You have to laugh to keep from crying..But a lot of folks think Obiecare will be free!!..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Trust me..in this business I know.

The Obamacare tax/penalty/mandate still puts him ahead of the game.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Yep-and that’s the rub. Whether it be individual policies or employer sponsored- they will pay the tax if it is cheaper and they cant afford it and not purchase a plan. Thus, it all collapsing- I see it by design. This is what they built.

Night all.

bazil9 on July 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

JPeterson, thank you. Here’s my favorite part

What they’re not saying is that Chief Justice Roberts has bequeathed to the rest of us a monstrosity of a health care system, now embedded in the law, where it will only grow, fester and metastasize. Worst of all, Chief Justice Roberts has given Congress, and all the Congresses to follow, the unrestrained power to rob, plunder and pillage as long as they call it a “tax.”

For his own glory he Fluked and condemned all who died for the freedom and the Constitution of the land, all who live and all who’re yet to be born.

I didn’t know that it was possible to hate anyone more than the charlatanic Obama. I’ve met Roberts recently.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Y’all take care and have a wonderful 4th.

bazil9 on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Have a Lovely Independence day bazil9. ox

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I’ve moved on from Roberts is a jackass, nothing we can do about that. I do have tons of anger about the way The Won has run this country. I have to admit that I thought his boast of fundamentally transforming the country was political speak but he truly has managed it. I happen to think that building on the already diminishing role of churches in this country has been very successful. Traditional values are equal to being racists and bigots at worse and silly at best. They are the only beliefs that deserve no respect. He’s been very effective.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM

“In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”

I’m down with that. I’ll stay free, thank you.

Tomorrow barky, you can kiss arse. Go ahead and BBQ a portaguese water dog on the south lawn for all I care, but one way or anotber you are outta here.

wolly4321 on July 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

It Is Well With My Soul

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

My favorite by Sandi Patty. Thanks!

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Just say no to pandering.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 3, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I know:-) I’ve always wondered if Greta extends the invitation as to which guests she’ll have on or if they contact her.

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Ehemmm…she’s married to John “Bhopal” Coale

if she can wake up to that there’s no hope for her

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

This is what they built.

Night all.

bazil9 on July 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Indeed. Pelosi is right “you ain’t seen nothin’ yeet” – they want national health care, where 130,000 old people are euthenized yearly in some European countries. Sibelius will decide. Your health records are no longer private.

I would love to see Obama’s health records now.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Both are aesome!!..Great tune from a *looks around for wife* a sexy Lead singer!..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

And I’m gonna bless a little cup in your honor. *cheers*

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

*cheers*

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Contestant #1…

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Hey OC, who is the bigger traitor Ben Nelson or John Roberts?

And what was funnier, F-Troop or Gomer Pyle?

SparkPlug on July 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Night all.

bazil9 on July 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Enjoyed it!..Later..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:32 AM

At midnight, it’s Independence Day. My shotgun will declare my independence tonight.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:32 AM

See clip I posted at the 12:15am..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

LOLZ! Bluto for Prez!

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:32 AM

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Both are awesome!!..Great tune from a *looks around for wife* a sexy Lead singer!..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Fixed!..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:33 AM

LOLZ! Bluto for Prez!

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Sounds like a plan..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:33 AM

For his own glory he Fluked and condemned all who died for the freedom and the Constitution of the land, all who live and all who’re yet to be born.

I didn’t know that it was possible to hate anyone more than the charlatanic Obama. I’ve met Roberts recently.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM

There was comment on that editorial that said “Roberts has been blackmailed twice because he paid for his adopted foreign children”

I hope you get to meet him again, spit on his shoe and tell him it’s from JPeterman former commie.

JPeterman on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Here you go, this should piss you off for the evening ;)

Photo of the Day: Turncoat Chief Justice Arrives at “Impregnable Island Fortress”

JPeterman on July 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

The slicked hair is really attractive.

I’m sure the reaction he’ll get back in DC will be interesting.

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Bmore,

I got your link at the throw away addy. Thanks. I’ll check it out in more depth tomorrow. *loved the cartoon, btw*

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Who is a bigger tool,

Roberts or Julan Assange?

SparkPlug on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Who is the DannoJyd person on the Team Romney thread? Obviously a very very important person.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Feel better now Rom0bama supporters?

DannoJyd on July 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Time to come back to earth, Danno. Howling at the moon with the Gary Johnson crazies isn’t going to magically make Obama go away, and you’ll wake up on Wednesday feeling stupid.

The race is bipolar, simple as that. Up or down; us vs. them; yes or no; on or off; left or right; right or wrong. There is no third party. There is only Obama or someone else, and only Romney is running now. Come in from the rain, dude…you’re going to get sick out there.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Boycott Google. They are celebrating a communist for the 4th. Plus, they do many things to you and with your information, none good.

Try this

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Good, angrymikes. ; )

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Hi folks-

Hey Flora, I checked the article you linked earlier. Looks like the committee talked to Styers a day or two before they talked to Melson. Interesting that Styers apparently mentions gunwalking but has other criticisms of the op. He notes the practice of dividing and isolating those who did criticize the strategy.

Exactly which supervisors did he notify, I wonder?

novaculus on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Fixed!..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:33 AM

BOTH hands on the keyboard, pal…

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Roberts or Julan Assange?

SparkPlug on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

The better question

Who exposed more national secrets of the USA, Assange or Obama?

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:38 AM

BOTH hands on the keyboard, pal…

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

lolz..Good advice!..:)

PS..SparkPlug can use that for the tech tip of the night on QOTD thread!

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

I’ve never seen that, I use to use this but have been on bing lately

http://www.dogpile.com/

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Good, angrymikes. ; )

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Thanks. I’ve gotta hit it. Need some rest for the match tomorrow.

Good night to all you tried and true patriots here at HA. Tomorrow is our day. And remember–screw the left.

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:41 AM

which version do you like better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1lytua2dh4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ux4JDDFyzs

Might be slightly unfair, one is studio version, the other live.

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Oh, I like the original far better, which followed the general rule of thumb that cover versions don’t measure up to original versions. I don’t mind Pink’s version, though.

Divinyls were a great band that was almost burnt out by the time “I Touch Myself” came out – imo, they peaked in 1985 or so!

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:41 AM

There are several, of course. Whichever works for you, but boycott them. They are the bane of so much, including what’s going on of late.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:42 AM

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Shoot well, drink well, live well. Enjoy the day brother. ; )

Bmore on July 4, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Contestant #1…

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

lol :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Who is the DannoJyd person on the Team Romney thread?

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Solid conservative, been here a long time. Sad to see him isolated in Johnson-crazy-land…hoping to reign him in.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Tomorrow is our day. And remember–screw the left.

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:41 AM

But remember not to do it in a good way.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:43 AM

JPeterman on July 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

I don’t understand how he could be blackmailed for adopting his children. The Hollyweird people pay other people to carry their children to keep their figures or in the case of gay couples, don’t have the equipment. No one cares about that.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:44 AM

” For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent”

I hope you all have a wonderful 4th of July. Stay safe.

wolly4321 on July 4, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Your answer to your Question..A clock..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Who is the DannoJyd person on the Team Romney thread?

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

One of the best the land and HA has. Does more in practice for Conservatism than most all of us put together.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:45 AM

predator on July 4, 2012 at 12:41

AM

Hit em straight!

KCB on July 4, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Oh, okay. I don’t try to change their minds anymore, I understand how they can feel betrayed by Republicans even if I don’t agree with their course of action.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Solid conservative, been here a long time. Sad to see him isolated in Johnson-crazy-land…hoping to reign him in.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:43 AM

It will never happen with insults from the Mitt-honeys. This is a one good person, smart, persistent, clear, undeterred and committed to family, freedom and country.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM

I understand how they can feel betrayed by Republicans even if I don’t agree with their course of action.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM

He deserves only respect. While we yack, he fights and fights, in the actual political trenches.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Look at what’s quietly happening in silicon valley- the next great area of tech disruption is healthcare. It’s more important than Obamacare or any other government mandate and it will eventually transform the system.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davechase/2012/06/25/sleeping-healthit-giant-awakens-massive-venture-investment-growth/

bayam on July 3, 2012 at 11:39 PM

I’ll read that later. I did read the other one you posted by the Doctor and what she is doing. Made a lot of sense both for the Doctors and the Patients. Using Technology saves money and time.

bluefox on July 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Solid conservative, been here a long time. Sad to see him isolated in Johnson-crazy-land…hoping to reign him in.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:43 AM

It will never happen with insults from the Mitt-honeys. This is a one good person, smart, persistent, clear, undeterred and committed to family, freedom and country.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM

he seems to be losing it on the other thread…but it’s late

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM

It will never happen with insults from the Mitt-honeys.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Who are the “Mitt-honeys”?

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Rats! It is support and comments like that keep causing me to do more every election cycle.

Sooner or later I’ll either have to either stop working for a living or find a person to replace me at the grass roots level. I refuse to sell off my family… /s

BTW, thank you.

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Looks like Dannojyd just jumped something bigger than a shark on the other thread! (12:37am post)..

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:51 AM

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Divinyls…wasn’t close.

KCB on July 4, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Thank you!

I’m easy. Give me a SOLID Conservative to vote for in the race for POTUS and I’ll forget all about Gary Johnson.

Easy peasy… NOT!

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

He just said I called him a POS, which of course I did not and called me a liberal, which compared to him, maybe I am. Good thing I’m not thin skinned.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

BTW, thank you.

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Don’t thank me. I thank you, and yours, since I know how hard they work too, following your example.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:54 AM

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

I don’t even know who a solid conservative is anymore. I truly cannot think of a soul that I would proudly cast my vote for.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Exactly which supervisors did he notify, I wonder?

novaculus on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

I just came across this. Very interesting.

Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Interesting new ATF internal document generated the day before the 4 February “withdrawn” (lying) DOJ letter to Grassley.
The link for the pdf of this letter is here.

U.S. Department of Justice

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

http://www.atf.gov

February 3, 2011

MEMORANDUM TO: Special Agent in Charge, Dallas Field Division

THRU: Resident Agent in Charge , Lubbock Field Office

FROM: Gary M. Styers, Special Agent, Lubbock Field Office

SUBJECT: Contact with Congressional Investigators

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Danno, my good friend, this is a very nice lady, not that happy with the outcome after the primaries. I don’t care to read the other thread.

You too ‘shake’ hands, whatever happened.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:56 AM

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 11:32 PM

From their point of view it makes a lot of sense. They pick up the Bush crowd and the Latino vote and Jeb is the heir to the throne for the Bush dynasty.

I honestly think they are so out of touch that they could well go with him.

sharrukin on July 3, 2012 at 11:41 PM

It does make sense. However, it would be a risk because Obama has used GW Bush as his scapegoat for over 3 years. Not sure how the Bush name would play. We also know the Elder Bush has endorsed Romney. I think the big question is how the Conservatives would react. They’ll do whatever they want anyway:-)

bluefox on July 4, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 12:51 AM

I saw it. I’m sure he meant it in the nicest possible way.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:56 AM

I’m fine, he’s fine.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:58 AM

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

These 2 songs exemplify why I find Christina Amphlett, whom I consider an entertainment genius as far as rock goes + I like her lyrics, so sexy.

I love Janis Joplin as a singer, but she couldn’t have pulled something like this off I don’t think!: Old Radios

In My Life

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:59 AM

I truly cannot think of a soul that I would proudly cast my vote for.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:55 AM

I can but, they aren’t running…

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Who are the “Mitt-honeys”?

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Not tonight. Today they were all over, on other threads. But, it’s Independence, or Dependence Day and we’ll fight another time dear Jaibones. Reflect and fly the flag, for many reasons, one for the obvious one, several of your choice and one reason, it might annoy a leftist.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I saw it. I’m sure he meant it in the nicest possible way.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:57 AM

I’m sure!!//..:)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Uh oh! You used lol in your comment. Sherman’s going to slap you with a Roberts lol Tax.

Flora Duh on July 3, 2012 at 11:48 PM

How about a Ha-Ha. I haven’t seen Sherman so I thot I was safe:-)

bluefox on July 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

He just said I called him a POS, which of course I did not and called me a liberal, which compared to him, maybe I am. Good thing I’m not thin skinned.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Who said this???

novaculus on July 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Up or down; us vs. them; yes or no; on or off; left or right; right or wrong.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

OK! Time to shoot myself in the foot again…

First, there ARE thr4id party candidates that Could win when you remember Romney’s tendency to lean waay left.

Second, the race you describe is leftist vs. leftist. the only question is which one is a bigger liberal, and NO Romney supporter has argued effectively for Willard. their best attempts are filled with crude language and insult. Want a few examples? I’m saving them for later.

Third, NO CRIME is committed without the act of lying. It is impossible to get away with any crime without it, and liars believe that the people they lie to are damnfools, which brings us to Mitt Romney, ‘Conservative’.

IMHO, in order to get a representational government we first need to set down for ourselves a solid core of values. Then we must stand on those and work to acheive our goals.

Why the RomBots do not understand that is most apparent to me.

My thanks again for seeing me for who I am instead of what the RomBot liberals wish I were. It is always hard work to dig through the lies of liberals. You did that work.

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Gohawgs on July 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I told you we should have stayed with Buddy!!…:):)

Dire Straits on July 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 12:56 AM

I like what Sen. Grassley is doing, releasing enough to show that there is something to investigate. I think it make Holder and The Won look much worse for stonewalling.

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 1:04 AM

On this Independence Day…

Remember Who We Are

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Howdy all, is everyone having a good evening before we celebrate the independence of this wonderful country?

uncommon sense on July 4, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 4, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Thanks.

bayview on July 4, 2012 at 1:06 AM

I just came across this. Very interesting.
Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 12:56 AM

excellent link.

Question: Is telephonically even a word?

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Ted Cruz. Run-off is late this month…and Dewhurst is still a roach!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 4, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Question: Is telephonically even a word?

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

tel·e·phon·ic (t l-f n k) adj. 1. Of or relating to telephones. 2. Transmitted or conveyed by telephone. tel e·phon i·cal·ly adv. Translations

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Telephonically

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Question: Is telephonically even a word?

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

It sure is.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Who is the DannoJyd person on the Team Romney thread?

Cindy Munford on July 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

One of the best the land and HA has. Does more in practice for Conservatism than most all of us put together.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 12:45 AM

…trust your judgement Schadenfreude…was starting to think he was having pillow talk with FR all the time and was getting on the nerves lately…wasn’t like that a month or so ago.

KOOLAID2 on July 4, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Love you Flora, in a good Platonic way. Hugs.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Give me a SOLID Conservative to vote for in the race for POTUS and I’ll forget all about Gary Johnson.

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Amen…book it, Danno.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 11:32 PM

From their point of view it makes a lot of sense. They pick up the Bush crowd and the Latino vote and Jeb is the heir to the throne for the Bush dynasty.

I honestly think they are so out of touch that they could well go with him.

sharrukin on July 3, 2012 at 11:41 PM

It does make sense. However, it would be a risk because Obama has used GW Bush as his scapegoat for over 3 years. Not sure how the Bush name would play. We also know the Elder Bush has endorsed Romney. I think the big question is how the Conservatives would react. They’ll do whatever they want anyway:-)

bluefox on July 4, 2012 at 12:57 AM

in that poll where Obama polls under Carter as worst prezident ever…he still polls above W.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/likely-voters-carter-was-better-president-obama_648085.html

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Question: Is telephonically even a word?

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

So is telepathically.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:13 AM

July 4′th, time for some fireworks. :-)

/Yeah, I know, it’s from the wrong side, but still cool.

AZfederalist on July 4, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Good night all.

Happy 4th to all of you – stay cool and remember no matter what the liberals tell you – we are still the greatest country on the face of this earth.

God Bless America :)

gophergirl on July 4, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Give me a SOLID Conservative to vote for in the race for POTUS and I’ll forget all about Gary Johnson.

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Amen…book it, Danno.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM

We’ll be at the barricades, together. Don’t let words from this board affect you.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Question: Is telephonically even a word?

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

tel·e·phon·ic (t l-f n k) adj. 1. Of or relating to telephones. 2. Transmitted or conveyed by telephone. tel e·phon i·cal·ly adv. Translations

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Telephonically

Flora Duh on July 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Question: Is telephonically even a word?

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

It sure is.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:11 AM

OK…it’s an awkward word…But then again it’s an internal federal communiqué so that makes sense

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM

My thanks again for seeing me for who I am instead of what the RomBot liberals wish I were. It is always hard work to dig through the lies of liberals. You did that work.

DannoJyd on July 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM

I think we’re (almost) all conservatives, here. Romney has never been a philosophical conservative, and I’ve never been a fan. But the party gave us no one better, so I am left with a pretty simple choice, imo.

Keep fighting the good fight, and don’t lose sight of the goal line.

Jaibones on July 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Happy 4th of July to one and all, including the leftists.

Freedom is never free and fighting for it is never finished.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:17 AM

So is telepathically.

Schadenfreude on July 4, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Star Trek

workingclass artist on July 4, 2012 at 1:17 AM

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