Quotes of the day

posted at 9:11 pm on July 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

Hostility toward the Supreme Court has risen sharply since Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. upheld the Obama health care law. People are apparently angry that the court didn’t rid them of a law they detest. But that’s silly. If Americans want to replace this thing, they should do it themselves

Republicans say they trust the people. If that’s true, then they won’t waste another futile breath bashing the court for upholding Obamacare. They’ll explicitly tell the country how they would replace it. Democracy is a contest between alternatives, not a deus ex machina stroke from the lords in black robes.

***

It’s on his to-do list, but U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says the odds are against repealing the health care law championed by President Barack Obama…

“If you thought it was a good idea for the federal government to go in this direction, I’d say the odds are still on your side,” McConnell said. “Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”…

If given control of the Senate next year, McConnell said he would support using budget reconciliation rules to repeal it. Doing so would prohibit Senate filibusters and require only 51 votes to succeed. In 2010, Republicans lambasted Democrats for relying on these rules to pass the health care bill, calling their tactics unusual and hyperpartisan.

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So now McConnell says he will force the issue before the election and then make repeal of Obamacare priority number one if the GOP takes back the Senate, but the odds are against full repeal. This is code for Republican leaders, timid as they are and driven by polling, keeping parts of Obamacare instead of doing full repeal and starting over.

The truth is many Republicans like parts of Obamacare. The truth is a number of Senate Republicans were willing to vote back in December of 2009 that the individual mandate was unconstitutional while keeping their names on healthcare legislation by Senator Bob Bennett that had an individual mandate.

The truth is with Republican leaders like we have in both Houses, who needs the Democrats? It was not just Democrats responsible for $16 trillion in debt. Even now, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell and the rest are trying to find ways to weasel out of paying down the debt and bring back earmarks.

When Republicans won’t fight on their ground, they just won’t fight.

***

Even if Republicans win big on Election Day, though, repealing the Affordable Care Act will be a tall order

For Republicans, the dream of using reconciliation to torpedo the law is predicated on winning a net of three Senate seats, retaining the House and winning the presidency. Then both chambers would have to pass a budget resolution that includes reconciliation instructions. Romney’s vice president would be called upon to break a possible 50-50 roll call in the Senate…

Then, in the Senate, once a reconciliation bill came to the floor, Democrats could challenge specific provisions. They could say, for example, that any savings from repealing certain parts of the healthcare law would only be incidental. If they won those challenges, those parts of the law would remain in place…

“I think the bottom line is, it’s plausible to use reconciliation, but it’s really hard to know which provisions will pass muster,” Binder said.

***

Chief Justice John Roberts ruled that the financial penalty enforcing the individual mandate is within Congress’s constitutional power to “lay and collect Taxes,” and that the mandate and penalty are inextricably linked. This should suffice to enable repeal, through reconciliation, of both the individual and employer mandates, and their respective penalty taxes.

The state exchanges and insurance rules—”guaranteed issue,” which forces an insurer to sell a policy to someone who is already sick, and “community rating,” which severely limits the insurer’s right to charge that person a higher premium—are procedurally more difficult. Yet both are linked to the individual mandate, which increases taxes. Whether they can be repealed in a reconciliation bill will ultimately be decided by the Senate Parliamentarian.

Once the individual mandate is repealed, these popular insurance changes cannot stand by themselves. Without the mandate, people have every incentive to save on premiums and not buy insurance until they fall ill. This will send premiums through the roof for healthy people and, if the government clamps down on increased premiums, destroy private insurance companies. Those Republicans who say they favor legislated guaranteed-issue and community-rating requirements but oppose the mandate will be forced to acknowledge that all three must go.

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[W]e all know the GOP’s myriad failures of will and principle over recent years. But it’s time to act, not to bicker. As a practical matter, no Democrat is ever going to vote for repeal. John Tester can film a commercial with a gun to show he’s not one of those wussy coastal libs, but when he leaves Montana, off come the cowboy boots and on go the Birkenstocks and he’s a guaranteed vote against repeal.

A vote for any Democrat is a vote for Obamacare. A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama. Period. That’s just a fact. One can whine and complain and mope, but unless you are actively supporting the GOP down the line, you are supporting Obama and Obamacare.

But giving some money and your vote, even if Mitt infuriated you in the primary, is not enough. The counterattack needs your time.

It needs you to help with the crummy scut work of elections, knocking on doors and making calls. It needs you getting active in social media to spread the word and fight the smears – on Facebook, on Twitter, wherever. It needs you to talk to your friends and neighbors, particularly the dumb ones who tune into politics about 15 minutes before the polls open. The dumb ones are natural Obama voters and require your special attention.

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“All that [Court ruling] did was energize conservatives,” declared Rasmussen in an exclusive interview on Monday. “The conservative interest in the election was already much higher than that of moderates and liberals. It went up to really stratospheric levels right after the ruling. We don’t know if that will continue or if it’s just a temporary response to the news cycle.”…

“Now as for that vote next week, while people were calling it symbolic, one of the interesting things to watch will be how many Democratic congressmen will sign on and support the repeal,” Rasmussen said. “There will probably be a fair number of Democratic members of Congress who are too afraid for their own future to vote in support of the healthcare law.”

***

In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News today, Senator McConnell put all … fears to rest. “I have said many times that if I’m the leader of the majority next year, I commit to the American people that the repeal of ‘Obamacare’ will be job one,” he reiterated. “That includes pursuing reconciliation. What people need to understand is that this is literally a fight for the future of our country and Democrats have proven during this debate that they will stop at nothing to protect this massive expansion of government into our lives and our health care. We need to be aware that this will take every ounce of our energy to accomplish.”

McConnell went on to explain that the fight would not stop with the election: “Our success is dependent upon the voices of the many who are concerned about Obamacare to get involved and stay involved. Do not shut up, do not sit down, do not be intimidated. Keep fighting with every ounce of energy you have. We’ll do the same. The road to repeal begins with a Republican Senate and Mitt Romney in the White House, but it won’t end for me until this historic mistake is wiped off the books for good.”

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inb4 Bishop!

vegconservative on July 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM

“Repeal?”

REPEAL!!!!!@!!!

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM

What as lousy pix of Gov Romney! Man, are you trying to make some kind of a point? He is a handsome man, and shame on you for putting that one beside the only one of the idiot in chief that looks half way (what?)!

Bambi on July 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Also its quite annoying we still have to worry about whether the GOP will screw its base in January. Its really getting old.

vegconservative on July 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM

really? nothing about Obama apologizing again on the main page or headline page? disappointing Hotair

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Repeal.

davidk on July 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM

“McConnell said. “Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”…”

Yeah Mitch…

… Why even try?

GFU…!!!

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM

I can guaran-damn-tee you that Schumer, Durbin, Reid, et al. will fight 1,000,000 times harder during a reconcilliation fight than McConnell and Co. ever thought to during the initial passage.

SouthernGent on July 3, 2012 at 9:17 PM

really? nothing about Obama apologizing again on the main page or headline page? disappointing Hotair

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Did he apologize to the hundreds dead in his favorite country, Mexico…
Or the Americans murdered on the border…?

Nope..
Just to the bad guys…

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM

People are apparently angry that the court didn’t rid them of a law they detest.

Not quite, genius. People are angry that the court didn’t rid them of an unconstitutional law they detest.

AZCoyote on July 3, 2012 at 9:19 PM

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Linky…?

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I can guaran-damn-tee you that Schumer, Durbin, Reid, et al. will fight 1,000,000 times harder during a reconcilliation fight than McConnell and Co. ever thought to during the initial passage.

SouthernGent on July 3, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Right beside you bro..

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM

NOTHING can be done without removing the Democrats from the Senate and the White House. In order to do that, we need to hang Obamatax around their collective necks like the albatross it is.

Biggest middle class tax increase in history in the middle of a depression.

OWN IT, Democrats!

crosspatch on July 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Did he apologize to the hundreds dead in his favorite country, Mexico…
Or the Americans murdered on the border…?

Nope..
Just to the bad guys…

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM

exactly

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM

The RINO’s again flipped us ALL the bird, Romney included. Feel better now Rom0bama supporters?

DannoJyd on July 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM

A repeal would be dreamy.

jaime on July 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Linky…?

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:19 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/03/clinton-apologizes-to-pakistan-for-airstrike-deaths-says-supply-lines-to-re/

that pretty much says it all..

what i want is an apology from Pakistan about housing bin laden for so long
i want an apology from them for supporting the taliban and other terrorist
groups that we are fighting there..it’s really an outrageous apology and
Charles K on special report was kinda spineless about it tonight

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM

“We need to be aware that this will take every ounce of our energy to accomplish.”

Until the press calls you a bad name and your Hampton’s cocktail party invitation is lost in the mail…

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM

exactly

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Just think…

Obama will be more flexible after the election….

Hopefully he will be flexing his bullshit in Chicago…around 2013..

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM

sadsushi on July 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Thanks!

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Republicans just want people to die, democrats want them to live, plain and simple.

Bishop on July 3, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Whatever vitriol they want to spew about the GOP, we never apologized to our enemies. Never. We will repeal O’Care by whatever means necessary.

Slainte on July 3, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Hostility toward the Supreme Court has risen sharply since Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. upheld the Obama health care law. People are apparently angry that the court didn’t rid them of a law they detest. But that’s silly. If Americans want to replace this thing, they should do it themselves…

How exactly are the American people supposed to do that?

Obamacare was a political deal fraught with kickbacks to get it through Congress. John (Benedict) Roberts went out of his way to uphold what is clearly bad law.

Americans hate this thing and are doing there utmost to replace it.

Happy Nomad on July 3, 2012 at 9:27 PM

If Americans want to replace this thing, they should do it themselves…

yeeah..just like they decided and voted 2 times for Prop 8 ,
because no judge will ever dare to overturn the voters

burrata on July 3, 2012 at 9:28 PM

The GOP will betray you……

But Obama will kill you….

Pick your poison..

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:28 PM

i hope everyone on this board who reads this post will look into their hearts and see that romney will lose in november.

the time to dump him is now. send his jet skis to malta where he can chill with his homey, and lets get this country back.

our only hope is a conservative president. if romney wins the nomination we are doomed.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

The GOP needs to take the gloves off when it comes to repealing OCare and when it comes to the next several SCOTUS nominations. They though scare the crap out of me.

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

i hope everyone on this board who reads this post will look into their hearts and see that romney will lose in november.

the time to dump him is now. send his jet skis to malta where he can chill with his homey, and lets get this country back.

our only hope is a conservative president. if romney wins the nomination we are doomed.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Arguing with yourself?

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

The GOP will betray you……

But Obama will kill you….

Pick your poison..

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:28 PM

kill me now then. with romney i die a slow death.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Repeal Obama in 2012.

Then, repeal Romney in 2016.

Bruno Strozek on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

. The dumb ones are natural Obama voters and require your special attention.

….that there’s an understatement!

also…

“McConnell said. “Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”…”

Yeah Mitch…

… Why even try?

GFU…!!!

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM

…is there some way we can FINALLY get Mitch to accomplish something?

KOOLAID2 on July 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Also its quite annoying we still have to worry about whether the GOP will screw its base in January. Its really getting old.

vegconservative on July 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM

C’mon I’m used to it. The GOP is consistent.

arnold ziffel on July 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Hillary apologized to the Pakistani for the loss of their military personnel. When have the Pakistani ever apologized for killing our military or harboring Bin Laden right next to their military post?

Slainte on July 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

mitts the nominee but its not official till tampa. we have time. if he win the nomination he will lose the general. that better?

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM

our only hope is a conservative president. if romney wins the nomination we are doomed.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

.
Ron Paul?

listens2glenn on July 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM

kill me now then. with romney i die a slow death.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Drama queen.

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM

“McConnell said. “Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”…”

Yeah Mitch…

… Why even try?

GFU…!!!

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM

You don’t remember Mitch the Bold, on the senate ramparts fighting Ocare the whole way? Apparently that wasn’t the right hill to die on.

arnold ziffel on July 3, 2012 at 9:35 PM

kill me now then.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Wish granted. You have a 10:00 AM appointment for tomorrow.

jaime on July 3, 2012 at 9:35 PM

i hope everyone on this board who reads this post will look into their hearts and see that romney will lose in november.
our only hope is a conservative president. if romney wins the nomination we are doomed.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

How is it possible you didn’t get the memo? Romney is our nominee. What is it with these one trick pony trolls.

Slainte on July 3, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Drama queen.

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM

it comes with territory if you are a Latino. but then again we don’t get erectile dysfunction. so we have that going for us.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Drama queen.

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Cronic Wanker.

idesign on July 3, 2012 at 9:39 PM

but then again we don’t get erectile dysfunction. so we have that going for us.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Dysfunction has many applications.

Slainte on July 3, 2012 at 9:40 PM

kill me now then. with romney i die a slow death.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Just take the pain pill..

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Apparently that wasn’t the right hill to die on.

arnold ziffel on July 3, 2012 at 9:35 PM

It never is…

… he might not have been invited back to ‘Face the Nation’, and that is all what really matters, isn’t it?

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM

I can guaran-damn-tee you that Schumer, Durbin, Reid, et al. will fight 1,000,000 times harder during a reconcilliation fight than McConnell and Co. ever thought to during the initial passage.

SouthernGent on July 3, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Easy to do, really, with the media servicing them and Obama, like ho’s in a truck stop. McConnell and them, however, they don’t know how to street fight, I mean ripping the throat out of the enemy, and not just talking or thinking about it. Many on our side have no concept of going for the jugular, they just want to play kick ball and win on the rules.

F*ck the rules, man, this is about survival, not a game, and if McConnell and the others want to play softball in a hard ball world, maybe they should step aside, now, for Rubio and others who get it.

TXUS on July 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM

mitts the nominee but its not official till tampa. …..
renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM

if romney wins the nomination we are doomed.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Arguing with yourself?

You weren’t born here were you?

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Cronic Wanker.

idesign on July 3, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Do you know how to spell?
Heck you have the shortest posts of anyone on HA and you spell 50% of your words incorrectly.

Top 5 baby. Congrats!!

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Ron Paul?

listens2glenn on July 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Isn’t he back in his crypt for the Summer?

slickwillie2001 on July 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM

kill me now then.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Why should a self reliant conservative like you asking other people do thing that you should do yourself?

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:43 PM

actually i was. how about you? you blonde haired blue eyed brute you. (winky, winky)

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Back in 2008..
When we theorized what would happen to America with Obama…
Were we right?

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:46 PM

How is it possible you didn’t get the memo? Romney is our nominee. What is it with these one trick pony trolls.

Slainte on July 3, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Dude lives in an alternate universe. This group of anti-roms keep saying the same crap over and over. I just don’t see anything new , creative, or persuasive.

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:46 PM

It’s on his to-do list, but U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says the odds are against repealing the health care law championed by President Barack Obama…

That’s only because you and too many GOP squishes like you are farking cowards, Mitch.

predator on July 3, 2012 at 9:47 PM

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Why don’t you post like you had an American education? Your grammar and spelling tend to be atrocious.

Oh wait I meant to say an American private school education.

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Apparently that wasn’t the right hill to die on.

arnold ziffel on July 3, 2012 at 9:35 PM

…(he was humping it!)

KOOLAID2 on July 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Democracy is a contest between alternatives, not a deus ex machina stroke from the lords in black robes.

And the NYT right on cue frames up a strawman argument, yet again. It’s what they do best.

No, democracy is a contest between ideas, not two competing government plans to take over 1/7th of the economy either one of which will make our bankruptcy all the more quicker.

Whosoever believes this drivel deserves the moribund failure that will surely follow.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on July 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Why should a self reliant conservative like you asking other people do thing that you should do yourself?

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM

And because of his decision..
Allow Government to impose a tax on his inactive…

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM

So now McConnell says he will force the issue before the election and then make repeal of Obamacare priority number one if the GOP takes back the Senate, but the odds are against full repeal. This is code for Republican leaders, timid as they are and driven by polling, keeping parts of Obamacare instead of doing full repeal and starting over.

I hate to defend McSquishy on this one, but how precisely are we supposed to repeal the whole thing without a filibuster-proof majority? The vast majority of this cr@ptastic offense against all that is good was passed in a 60-39 vote in the Senate in 2009.

Are we going to repeal the mandate with Reconciliation even if we don’t have the 60 votes needed to repeal the budget-neutral requirement to cover pre-existing conditions? Would that still be conservative?

RINO in Name Only on July 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM

our only hope is a conservative president. if romney wins the nomination we are doomed.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

.
Ron Paul?

listens2glenn on July 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM

“What the kidney produces” is a Palinista.

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM

OT: Just got home from a pool party. I am burned to a crisp and need something soothing on my shoulder blades and back…
NO, I will NOT vote for Gary Johnson.

OmahaConservative on July 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Cronic Wanker.

idesign on July 3, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Do you know how to spell?
Heck you have the shortest posts of anyone on HA and you spell 50% of your words incorrectly.

Top 5 baby. Congrats!!

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

…hey!…who can spell?…when they’re wanking!

KOOLAID2 on July 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Are we going to repeal the mandate with Reconciliation even if we don’t have the 60 votes needed to repeal the budget-neutral requirement to cover pre-existing conditions? Would that still be conservative?

RINO in Name Only on July 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Because Roberts determined the mandate was a tax it can be overturned by 51 votes. IIRC.

predator on July 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Back in 2008..
When we theorized what would happen to America with Obama…
Were we right?

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:46 PM

We were right, but because we are racists homophobes bitter gun and bible clingers , we don’t know what we are talking about !

burrata on July 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Dude lives in an alternate universe. This group of anti-roms keep saying the same crap over and over. I just don’t see anything new , creative, or persuasive.

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:46 PM

They’re all over the other Romney thread. Same tired sh!t. It must be nice to get paid for writing complete drivel. Although, maybe they do it just because they’re sad and lonely.

Slainte on July 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:48 PM

actually i had a private education for most of my life. never did me any good. never got paid more for speaking proper.

showered, shaved, worked my butt off. it was enough back in the day.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM

How can anyone talk about anything other than David Brooks using the phrase “hating on” without batting an eyelash. Ebonics has gone moderate GOP?

libfreeordie on July 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Do you know how to spell?
Heck you have the shortest posts of anyone on HA and you spell 50% of your words incorrectly.

Top 5 baby. Congrats!!

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

LOL

http://spedfrk.5.forumer.com/a/intervention-on-cronic-wanker_post6822.html

idesign on July 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM

… he might not have been invited back to ‘Face the Nation’, and that is all what really matters, isn’t it?

Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Face the Nation would be fine if he used the forum. Apparently the coffee mug and handshake they give you is plenty.

arnold ziffel on July 3, 2012 at 9:54 PM

“A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama”, he said, with Romney’s koolaid dribbling down his chin.

FloatingRock on July 3, 2012 at 9:54 PM

it comes with territory if you are a Latino. but then again we don’t get erectile dysfunction. so we have that going for us.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM

You ought to seek help for rather obvious mental dysfunction though.

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 9:54 PM

OT: Just got home from a pool party. I am burned to a crisp and need something soothing on my shoulder blades and back…
NO, I will NOT vote for Gary Johnson.

OmahaConservative on July 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Are you sayin’ that you let the sun get to you?

Did you circumvent the indoor sun tanning saloon tax?

You will be sent a bill from the IRS shortly..

Thank you for your support..

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:54 PM

actually i had a private education for most of my life. never did me any good. .

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Talk about self-evident truth.

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 9:56 PM

burrata on July 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Back in the day when I was listening to Glenn Beck..
Beck said after Obama was elected…
That he would give Obama a chance..

I quit listening to Glenn Beck after that..

I know that Glenn is very active in exposing Obama today but…

He gave Obama some slack..
Knowing who he was…

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 9:58 PM

OT: Just got home from a pool party. I am burned to a crisp and need something soothing on my shoulder blades and back…
NO, I will NOT vote for Gary Johnson.

OmahaConservative on July 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM

President Romney can give him back the China gig, he seemed to enjoy that.

slickwillie2001 on July 3, 2012 at 9:58 PM

but unless you are actively supporting the GOP down the line, you are supporting Obama and Obamacare.

Not me, you effing liar, I’m supporting Gary Johnson, the only candidate on every ballot that isn’t responsible for Obamacare/Romneycare.

FloatingRock on July 3, 2012 at 9:59 PM

“McConnell said. “Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”…”
Seven Percent Solution on July 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Is he getting senile? Doesn’t he even remember there was no way to stop that Obamacare vote? Good grief, what a stupid thing to say.
Hopefully, we’ll have a new Speaker and a new Majority Leader. We need someone on our side for a change:-)

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Re the push from proggies to have something ready to ‘replace’ Obamacare with, -stolen from the other thread:

Thomas Sowell, as so often, said it best:

“No one who extinguishes a forest fire or removes a cancer has to ‘replace’ it with anything. We are well rid of evils.”

Splunge on July 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM

slickwillie2001 on July 3, 2012 at 10:00 PM

What he did was betray his oath to be faithful to the Constitution of the United States.

Who he betrayed were the hundreds of millions of Americans – past, present and future – whole generations in the past who have fought and died for a freedom that he has put in jeopardy, in a moment of intellectual inspiration and moral forgetfulness, 300 million Americans today whose lives are to be regimented by Washington bureaucrats, and generations yet unborn who may never know the individual freedoms that their ancestors took for granted.

Some claim that Chief Justice Roberts did what he did to save the Supreme Court as an institution from the wrath – and retaliation – of those in Congress who have been railing against Justices who invalidate the laws they have passed. Many in the media and in academia have joined the shrill chorus of those who claim that the Supreme Court does not show proper “deference” to the legislative branch of government.

But what does the Bill of Rights seek to protect the ordinary citizen from? The government! To defer to those who expand government power beyond its constitutional limits is to betray those whose freedom depends on the Bill of Rights.

Schadenfreude on July 3, 2012 at 10:01 PM

President Romney can give him back the China gig, he seemed to enjoy that.

slickwillie2001 on July 3, 2012 at 9:58 PM

You confuse Gary with That Dog cannot Huntsman. Gary Johnson will do well as Special Trade Commissioner to Mexico to sample the marijuana shipments for quality control before they got smuggled into the U.S.

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM

McConnell and Boehner are surely talking a different tune. Where have they been since the 2010 elections? They never supported the Tea Party or the Conservatives nor even supported those that ran for election.

Where’s Dire? These two will betray you also:-)

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

If Republicans are going to give up trying to keep taxes low then why should anybody vote for them? Romney is one of the biggest tax hikers in the history of America, Gary Johnson is one of the biggest tax cutters. Why would anybody but a small percentage of koolaid drinkers vote for Romney? It doesn’t make a bit of sense.

FloatingRock on July 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Are there any countries that Dear Leader has not apologized to..?

d1carter on July 3, 2012 at 10:06 PM

it would be a lot different if we had an honest press…they will shriek and hiss any change.

but there’s some ugly stuff here…for example

a family of 4 making 92K (at age 40) pays 8700 for h/c

a family of 4 making 96K (at age 40) pays 12.3K for h/c

so that 4K raise you got gets you f***ed

4K will generate 280 in fica, prob. 1500 in income tax and you p ay 3600 more in premiums…that is you are losing money with that raise

this is why socialist systems fall apart…they have stupid people at the top

r keller on July 3, 2012 at 10:06 PM

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 9:56 PM

don’t take it so personal dude. it doesn’t make you look good. rush said it today best. obamacare is the law of the land, we lost, our country is finished unless the law is completely eradicated.

romney has no desire to repeal the law. show me the proof. not just words. we have his blood brother ferhnstorm saying he agrees with obama that its not a tax. now we see him on jet skis.

he is not serious about his run for the presidency. he’s mccain 2.

i have nothing personal against you. i just happen to know (based on his past behavior) that romney is going hard left when he becomes president.

no one from your team can show me that his heart is on the right side.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Hostility toward the Supreme Court has risen sharply since Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. upheld the Obama health care law. People are apparently angry that the court didn’t rid them of a law they detest. But that’s silly. If Americans want to replace this thing, they should do it themselves…

The NYT’s is just repeating what Roberts said in his opinion. Also before he left for Malta, he was joking about this.
“Malta, as you know, is an impregnable island fortress. It seemed like a good idea,” Roberts said, drawing laughter from about 300 judges, attorneys and others attending a four-day conference, which started Thursday at the posh Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in Farmington, about 50 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.

Roberts was alluding to escaping criticism from conservatives upset that he sanctioned a law they abhor.

bluefox on July 3, 2012 at 10:12 PM

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Oh, that Johnson, the husky pony-tailed dude that hiked 100 miles through the snow of Oregon when Indians stole his horse! Gotcha.

slickwillie2001 on July 3, 2012 at 10:13 PM

he is not serious about his run for the presidency. he’s mccain 2.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 10:09 PM

You have a problem…
Reality..

Mccain2???

WTF?

Governor….senator…
CEO…????

Nothing to see here….

Electrongod on July 3, 2012 at 10:14 PM

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Somewhere, there’s an empty chair for you at a Gary Johnson phone bank. What are you waiting for? Get to work.

PatriotGal2257 on July 3, 2012 at 10:14 PM

r keller on July 3, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Yep, they run out of other peoples money pretty fast that way…

d1carter on July 3, 2012 at 10:16 PM

predator on July 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Your presence here pleases my gazillion brown recluses-who aren’t acting especially reclusive @ the moment-and rabid prairie dogs…and the Asian tree beetle.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 3, 2012 at 10:16 PM

mitts the nominee but its not official till tampa. …..
renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM

if romney wins the nomination we are doomed.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Arguing with yourself?

You weren’t born here were you?

CW on July 3, 2012 at 9:43 PM

funny that

workingclass artist on July 3, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Are we going to repeal the mandate with Reconciliation even if we don’t have the 60 votes needed to repeal the budget-neutral requirement to cover pre-existing conditions? Would that still be conservative?

RINO in Name Only on July 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Because Roberts determined the mandate was a tax it can be overturned by 51 votes. IIRC.

predator on July 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM

You misunderstand. I know we can repeal the mandate with 51 votes. We CANNOT, if my understanding is correct, repeal the requirement that insurance companies cover individuals with pre-existing conditions. Moreover, they may not take those conditions into account when determining rates. This part of the bill has nothing to do with the budget, so it cannot be repealed with less than 60 votes if the democrats want to filibuster.

Are you willing to kill the mandate even if the requirement for covering pre-existing conditions remains?

RINO in Name Only on July 3, 2012 at 10:17 PM

After this week, I’m voting O. Let’s get this BBQ started sooner then later.

Mr. Arrogant on July 3, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Laugh so hard you’ll throw up: For Those Near, the Miserable Hum of Clean Energy

slickwillie2001 on July 3, 2012 at 10:19 PM

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 10:09 PM

People will not call you out when you engage in reasoned debates, but your posts had largely been nothing but obnoxious distortions, best practiced by posters from the DailyKos. For instance: making this snide remark about Romney’s upcoming trip to Isarel.

if you really think that romney wants to repeal obamacare, your dreaming. he’s on a ski boat now. having a great time. off to meet the palestinians next.

renalin on July 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM

bayview on July 3, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Your presence here pleases my gazillion brown recluses-who aren’t acting especially reclusive @ the moment-and rabid prairie dogs…and the Asian tree beetle.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 3, 2012 at 10:16 PM

That’s me. I’m a pleaser. :D

predator on July 3, 2012 at 10:21 PM

NOTHING can be done without removing the Democrats from the Senate and the White House. In order to do that, we need to hang Obamatax around their collective necks like the albatross it is.

Biggest middle class tax increase in history in the middle of a depression.

OWN IT, Democrats!

crosspatch on July 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM

True, but the way history is shaking out we’ll be screwed again when, inevitably, a Dem gets elected.

No way to ensure that a Dem NEVER gets elected again.

Well, there’s one way, which won’t happen until it’s too late, so we’re scroomed.

Who is John Galt on July 3, 2012 at 10:21 PM

“Because it’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.”…

Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988 enacted 1 July 1988

Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Repeal Act of 1989 enacted 23 November 1989

A very interesting read:

Retreat in Congress; The Catastrophic-Care Debacle – A special report.; How the New Medicare Law Fell on Hard Times in a Hurry

Resist We Much on July 3, 2012 at 10:21 PM

predator on July 3, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Lubbock’s being over-run by BR’s. I haven’t seen any since last year. I hope to keep it that way.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 3, 2012 at 10:22 PM

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