Gov. Rick Scott: No Medicaid expansion for Florida, thanks

posted at 7:31 pm on July 2, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Florida Gov. Rick Scott has already demonstrated a propensity to be a total boss of a governor in the past — notably by rejecting federal cash ‘gifts‘ and standing up to the Justice Department over Florida’s voter fraud problems — and here he is again, letting it be known that Florida will not be participating in any of the optional portions of ObamaCare and Medicare expansion.

The Affordable Care Act does not require states to take any action before the 2012 general election, and the full law does not take effect until January 1, 2014, provided it is not repealed before that date. …

Florida will opt out of spending approximately $1.9 billion more taxpayer dollars required to implement a massive entitlement expansion of the Medicaid program. A second provision in the Affordable Care Act gives Governor Scott the flexibility to opt out of building insurance “exchanges.”

“Floridians are interested in jobs and economic growth, a quality education for their children, and keeping the cost of living low,” Governor Scott said. “Neither of these major provisions in ObamaCare will achieve those goals, and since Florida is legally allowed to opt out, that’s the right decision for our citizens.”

If ObamaCare isn’t repealed before the implementation date, then of course Florida will go forward with the mandatory parts of the law, but not until then, and Gov. Scott has made it clear he’ll join in the Republican efforts to get the law repealed. Since Florida is a clutch swing state and President Obama is looking mighty ready to move the campaign rhetoric away from ObamaCare, I can’t imagine this is welcome news — Team Obama likely doesn’t need or want anyone being more vocal about the still-unpopular legislation than necessary.

Other states’ governors are jumping on the sort of war-of-administrative-attrition bandwagon, too:

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, a Republican, told CBS Face the Nation on Sunday that Wisconsin would not implement the health care law:

“We’re going to wait. We said all along there was a legal step, there’s a political step and after each of those steps were exhausted we see what the future holds,” Walker said, noting that the election is crucial to the future of health care policy.

“The only chance to repeal that is to put in place a new president, a new Senate majority, and then ultimately repeal the law,” Walker said.

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, a Republican, said on a GOP governor’s conference call that his state will continue to not implement the health care law as well.

“Here in Louisiana we have not applied for the grants, we have not accepted many of these dollars, we’re not implementing the exchanges,” Jindal said. “We don’t think it makes any sense to implement Obamacare in Louisiana. We’re going to do what we can to fight it.”

Of course, this is all just for show unless we can actually get President Obama out of office and then get ObamaCare repealed, but I still like it. Not only are the governors being frugal — no point wasting money getting started on this thing while it’s still feasibly going to be repealed or altered — but I also respect the tenacity. The outspoken unwillingness to just roll over and die never fails to warm my heart.


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What’s Texas’s stand on this? Get it in gear Perry!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Obama refuses to uphold certain laws why can the states not follow suit. Obama wished to fundamentally transform America away from the rule of equal protection under the law. We must resist the earge to follow him down the path to dictatorship.

Grunt on July 2, 2012 at 7:34 PM

If Obama wins in November, the Governors are our last hope.

Night Owl on July 2, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Not only are the governors being frugal — no point wasting money getting started on this thing while it’s still feasibly going to be repealed or altered —

As opposed to California, which can’t spend millions of taxpayer dollars — that it doesn’t have — fast enough to fully implement Obamacare.

aunursa on July 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Why don’t governors want to hit the gas on all these bankrupt liberal programs?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Of course, this is all just for show unless we can actually get President Obama out of office and then get ObamaCare repealed

Still radio silence at HotAir over nullification. C’mon, guys, cut the apron strings and take a stand with federalists, the Founders/Framers, and the ratifiers.

Dante on July 2, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I’m rethinking this whole Roberts decision… If Romney is elected, he can just threaten to tax employers if they don’t hire more people… and the CBO will score it as deficit reduction.

Win! Win!1!!1!

dforston on July 2, 2012 at 7:42 PM

As opposed to California, which can’t spend millions of taxpayer dollars — that it doesn’t have — fast enough to fully implement Obamacare.

aunursa on July 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Who are they going to be exchanging with?
More states with debt?

I just don’t get it.

Electrongod on July 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Being able to purge the voter rolls is important. If FL can get rid of most or all of the names who are not qualified to vote, it makes cheating more difficult.

Congress has to be aware of polling on this issue and they will be aware of coming ire if the Rs don’t work to repeal it.

INC on July 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Still radio silence at HotAir over nullification. C’mon, guys, cut the apron strings and take a stand with federalists, the Founders/Framers, and the ratifiers.

Dante on July 2, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Have to take those pesky state legislatures, don’t ya know? (and actually get them to follow through). Your better bet is to get people energetic about overtaking the house and senate with more tea party representatives.

nobar on July 2, 2012 at 7:46 PM

I loved in in the 80′s when he would sing…

How can we dance when our earth is turning. How do we sleep while our beds are burning.

phreshone on July 2, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Scott’s only in favor of federal health care programs when he’s in a position to steal from them.

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I loved in in the 80′s when he would sing…

How can we dance when our earth is turning. How do we sleep while our beds are burning.

phreshone on July 2, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I liked the one…

“you gotta fight, for your right, to Tea Party!”

Electrongod on July 2, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Scott’s only in favor of federal health care programs when he’s in a position to steal from them.

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Typical Democrat attitude – you’re Hitler if you refuse to give the poor other people’s money.

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 7:53 PM

What’s Texas’s stand on this? Get it in gear Perry!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM

His statement through his COS was in yesterday’s Quote of the Day.

Basically – no freaking way.

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 7:54 PM

The outspoken unwillingness to just roll over and die never fails to warm my heart.

Barry and the MSM were so counting on it!

Yeah, lets expand a program that’s already headed for collapse!

And you wonder why they thought Solyndra was a good deal?

GarandFan on July 2, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor….
urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

O’tax: Screw the workers…

Electrongod on July 2, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Typical Democrat attitude – you’re Hitler if you refuse to give the poor other people’s money.

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 7:53 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I’m rethinking this whole Roberts decision… If Romney is elected, he can just threaten to tax employers if they don’t hire more people… and the CBO will score it as deficit reduction.

Win! Win!1!!1!

dforston on July 2, 2012 at 7:42 PM

BRILLIANT! Unemployment solved!
Why didn’t Pelosi think of this earlier?

J-Paul00 on July 2, 2012 at 7:57 PM

“Here in Louisiana we have not applied for the grants, we have not accepted many of these dollars, we’re not implementing the exchanges,” Jindal said. “We don’t think it makes any sense to implement Obamacare in Louisiana. We’re going to do what we can to fight it.”

Possible VP quote here – I hope so

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 7:57 PM

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 7:54 PM

That’s what I wanna hear!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Florida Gov. Rick Scott has already demonstrated a propensity to be a total boss of a governor in the past — notably by rejecting federal cash ‘gifts‘ and standing up to the Justice Department over Florida’s voter fraud problems — and here he is again, letting it be known that Florida will not be participating in any of the optional portions of ObamaCare and Medicare expansion.
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************** H*LL NO ********************************!

canopfor on July 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM

The decisions by Gov. Scott (FL) and Walker (WI) not to implement the optional part of ObamaCare could help Romney in important swing states. If the Governors of Virginia, Michigan, and Ohio (all Republicans) jump on this bandwagon, Obama could be in deep doo-doo by November.

Steve Z on July 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Possible VP quote here – I hope so

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Seconded!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Envy, continuing to be a deadly sin on the nation.

nobar on July 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Barry, is that you?

hillsoftx on July 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

ALT here is the quote

[Governor Rick] Perry “has no interest in fast-tracking any portion of this bankrupting and overreaching legislation,” deputy press secretary Josh Havens said.

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Oh, I don’t want poor people to die. I’m just saying you people are incompetent.

Medicare and Social Security is $120 trillion underfunded

That’s about 2.5 times the net worth of the country and last time I checked we still have poor people. So what’s the plan now?

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

And here we have the Dems only argument for another Oblamer term. How cute! You need to Con Call with DWS to get fresher talking points, like how to deal with that Penalty/Tax/Penalty problem y’all are having….LOL.

ManWithNoParty on July 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Possible VP quote here – I hope so

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Seconded!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Third!..The motion carries!..:)

Dire Straits on July 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Of course, this is all just for show unless we can actually get President Obama out of office and then get ObamaCare repealed, but I still like it.

Why should it be “only for show”? Why would states want to bankrupt themselves further by increasing Medicaid spending (eligibility would increase up to an annual income of $29,000 for a family of four)? The legislation does not require states create exchanges nor can the Feds force the states to expand Medicaid under the law.

Furthermore, in Obamacare, subsidies are authorised only for those individuals enrolled in an exchange established by the state under § 1311, but the legislation has no similar language authorising the subsidisation of individuals enrolled within any exchange that the Federal government might create.

How are the Feds going to subsidise people in the proposed, Federal exchanges where the states have declined to create their own?

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Still radio silence at HotAir over nullification. C’mon, guys, cut the apron strings and take a stand with federalists, the Founders/Framers, and the ratifiers.

Dante on July 2, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Dante:Thanks for the heads up,I’ll see if I can get sparky
back in the radio-room!!!!

canopfor on July 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Good-but could’ve been a bit stronger.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

The other opinion aside, aren’t Democrats the ones always blocking a legitimate, legal company from opening locations in certain states and areas?

Therefore denying jobs and income to “working poor”?

Typical Republican values are: Let people work, and keep as much of their money as possible to sustain themselves. If it worked for my grandaddy and great grandaddy, then gotta be something to the idea.

BlaxPac on July 2, 2012 at 8:05 PM

While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Let’s end ALL subsidies. Flat tax, baby!

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Envy, continuing to be a deadly sin on the nation.

nobar on July 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

An affection for something resembling justice is hardly envy. I don’t mind the rich, I’ve met a few and most of them are pretty OK. A couple have even put a little money in my pocket.

On the other hand, giving them ludicrous and economically unjustifiable — Adam Smith would hat them — tax breaks that they don’t need while sneering at the needs of the lower-middle class is fundamentally wrong.

Having rigged the game to the extent that 90% of of GDP growth flows into about 5% of the pockets, it’s clear that the rich are doing OK and we need to address fundamental issues such as: if you work full-time in America, should you die because you can’t afford to see a doctor?

Scott says: “yes.”

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Thank you – I haven’t laughed this hard in days.

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Let’s end ALL subsidies. Flat tax, baby!

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Given a standard deduction large enough to make the tax progressive for families with income under $100K, I could live with this.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Typical Democrat attitude – you’re Hitler if you refuse to give the poor other people’s money.

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 7:53 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

So Urban elitist, which government programs to you want to sacrifice to pay for the Medicaid expansion? Teacher’s salaries, public libraries, University funding, or how about public safety like police and fire? Gotta choose.

txmomof6 on July 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.
urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I didn’t know people making $89k were hedge fund managers and owned vacation homes. When, not if, their employers drop insurance coverage those folks are going to be out $12,000 a year. That’s twice what the average person pays in premiums, deductibles and copays. Meanwhile the poor will still get health care.

txhsmom on July 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

That’s what I wanna hear!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Upthread, Urban Elitist suggested we at HA want you to die!

massrighty on July 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Let’s end ALL subsidies. Flat tax, baby!

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

For EVERYBODY!

gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Upthread, Urban Elitist suggested we at HA want you to die!

massrighty on July 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Her and her spawn LOL!

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gophergirl on July 2, 2012 at 8:10 PM

An affection for something resembling justice is hardly envy. I don’t mind the rich, I’ve met a few and most of them are pretty OK. A couple have even put a little money in my pocket.

On the other hand, giving them ludicrous and economically unjustifiable — Adam Smith would hat them — tax breaks that they don’t need while sneering at the needs of the lower-middle class is fundamentally wrong.

Having rigged the game to the extent that 90% of of GDP growth flows into about 5% of the pockets, it’s clear that the rich are doing OK and we need to address fundamental issues such as: if you work full-time in America, should you die because you can’t afford to see a doctor?

Scott says: “yes.”
urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Got links to support all this, Sparky?

ManWithNoParty on July 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Why don’t you just explicitly come out and state that one group of citizens, call them the hosts, have to provide sustenance to another group of citizens, call them parasites. It’s what you’re really after.

When I go to work, I go to work for the benefit of me and my family, not some “working poor” stranger across town, across the state, or across the nation.

It never ceases to amaze me that you Leftists are ok with confiscating the money, labor, and property of one man to give away to another. Why that’s so…socialistic of you.

Charlemagne on July 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM

So,I wonder what the other states will do,I mean
Dopey/Rageys (57) State mis-speak clusterFark!!

canopfor on July 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I hereby propose we confiscate all of urban elitist’s income to pay for the Medicaid expansion in his/her state. He/she doesn’t need it as much as the poor who need health insurance and clearly that is the most important and best use of money that belongs to the state./

txmomof6 on July 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Upthread, Urban Elitist suggested we at HA want you to die!

massrighty on July 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I’m too mean and evil to die…and many of my fellow associates @ my store SUPPORT Rick Perry.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Having rigged the game to the extent that 90% of of GDP growth flows into about 5% of the pockets, it’s clear that the rich are doing OK and we need to address fundamental issues such as: if you work full-time in America, should you die because you can’t afford to see a doctor?

Scott says: “yes.”

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Again- we know the problem. Your solutions are failures and you refuse to admit it. Look at ObamaCare. It’s a disaster.

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Charlemagne on July 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Starve the looters. They are the most despicable creatures on Earth. The moochers are just fools, kept in modern day plantations, for votes. UE and Obama hate them, they despise them, but they exploit and use them.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2012 at 8:16 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

John Corzine, still walking around free, bundling his little heart out for Obama. Spare us the liberal outrage.

Night Owl on July 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

75% of ObamaTax, formerly known as Obama’care’, will be paid by those who make 120,000/yr, or less. Because it’s a regressive tax Obama hates the middle class and the poor.

This is all you and Obama want. Period. You s/b pitchforked by the moochers, whom you keep enslaved.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM
Barry, is that you?

hillsoftx on July 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

…(no!…it’s his feces!)

KOOLAID2 on July 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Typical Democrat attitude – you’re Hitler if you refuse to give the poor other people’s money.

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 7:53 PM

So frakkin’ true. That should be a quote of the month right there…

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

What poor people were dying before Obamataxcare? Hmmm? They go to a hospital, they have to be treated. But oh…a couple of American LEOs and several hundred Mexicans get killed by guns that Obama’s minions sell to drug cartels and it’s ho hum, yawn, no big deal…

You libs disgust me. A pox on your houses.

Battlecruiser-operational on July 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

“Capitalist money given to Obama, good; Capitalist money given to Romney, bad” — Obama and Urban Elitist

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Hey! How are you feeling?

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

I wonder Bentley of Alabama is? I want to hear him join this chorus.

AubieJon on July 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Charlemagne on July 2, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Please stop thanking Justice Roberts, he did no one any favors, especially himself.

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Architect of ObamaCare Jonathan Gruber completely recants the idea it lowers costs:

Gruber then: Obamacare will “for sure” reduce insurance costs

President Obama, too, touted the bill’s ability to “bend the cost curve,” repeatedly promising that the law would “bring down premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.”

But that was then.

Gruber now: Obamacare will increase premiums by 19-30 percent

As states began the process of considering whether or not to set up the insurance exchanges mandated by the new health law, several retained Gruber as a consultant. In at least three cases—Wisconsin in August 2011, Minnesota in November 2011, and Colorado in January 2012—Gruber reported that premiums in the individual market would increase, not decrease, as a result of Obamacare.

In Wisconsin, Gruber reported that people purchasing insurance for themselves on the individual market would see, on average, premium increases of 30 percent by 2016, relative to what would have happened in the absence of Obamacare.In Minnesota, the law would increase premiums by 29 percent over the same period. Colorado was the least worst off, with premiums under the law rising by only 19 percent.

Forbes

Chuck Schick on July 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Of course, creating a dependent population that has been taught that they have no hope except for the government and that they can’t get or keep a job without government intervention was a wonderful idea, right?!? And now that intelligent people want to put a stop to the madness, you still want to stand by it.

Liberalism is a mental and a spiritual disease.

AubieJon on July 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Better-but my Pcp said that if I get that combo of symptoms again to call 911

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 8:32 PM

We’ll all pay for it regardless in our federal taxes. Think the people of florida won’t be paying? Think again.

That’s what’s so sick about this nonsense. If my state chooses not to be involved then I shouldn’t pay for other states to be involved through my federal taxes.

Karmashock on July 2, 2012 at 8:33 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

You liberals are so sad. You do realize that there is a lot of middle ground between taking the poor to raise and letting them die, right? And I’d be willing to bet that Obama has done more “subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses” in his three and half years as president than Romney did his entire tenure at Bain. He actually approved bonuses for bailed out bankers and managers of bankrupt “green” industries where he invested confiscated taxpayer dollars. We can’t afford your guy for four more years.

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 8:34 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Well that’s scary! Can’t you get a golf cart to drive to work?

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Better-but my Pcp said that if I get that combo of symptoms again to call 911

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Just want you to know that there are a lot of us concerned for you. You are quite the kick on HA. Stay healthy.

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Governor Scott had better hope that his state doesn’t need any serious hurricane federal aid anytime soon. I can just see little Bammie saying something pissy like “if they don’t need our Medicaid money then they shouldn’t need FEMA aid either”.

slickwillie2001 on July 2, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Our governor has not said much, other than the state would comply with the law. No firm statements about not accepting Medicaid and establishing exchanges.

Philly on July 2, 2012 at 8:52 PM

I don’t think people understand the depth and breadth of opposition to this.

Scott, Jindal, and Walker’s commitments notwithstanding, the American people are not waiting to see if this law stands, and then resolving to acquiesce if it does.

The American people will revolt against this if the GOP does not demonstrate the proper resolve in eliminating it. If people can resist with the strength and blessing of their states, all the better. But people will revolt against ObamaCare with or without the states, if the GOP doesn’t do it politically.

The federal government has crossed the line into abuses and usurpations territory. Our nation was founded because of such egregious tyranny. ObamaCare will not stand.

IronDioPriest on July 2, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Actually, if something happened to you I would not care one bit…just being honest…

PatriotRider on July 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

So when Florida and I would assume, at least the other 25 states do not implement the Medicaide expansion of ObamaTax, that would mean that the ObamaTax team must now find another… how many Billion, in new taxes to cover the inevitable shortfall? Or does the ObamaTax team just not cover them?

God Bless America!

paratisi on July 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

slickwillie2001 on July 2, 2012 at 8:52 PM

As long as it happens before election day, he’ll be okay.

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Actually, if something happened to you I would not care one bit…just being honest…

PatriotRider on July 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

C’mon, you just know we would be crying in our extra beer trying to ease the feeling of loss.

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

My question is… Will an attempt at Nullification stop a general strike if somehow ObamaTax gets reelected?

The possibility of a total shutdown due to perceived voter fraud, if ObamaTax gets reelected, would make the crowds at the 9/12 event look like a high school chess club meeting. 2012 is going to have more cameras trained on polling places than you could ever imagine. Any “New Black Panther like Voter Intimidation” may well be met with resistance at a level, never thought possible in this country.

It’s a sad thought, but when the rule of law is no longer the law of the land, bloodshed is only inches away and revolution is just around the block. I hope these theories will never be answered or even tested, but that depends on Nov.6th and getting the Racist-in-Chief out of “HIS” office(as he’s so fond of saying).

God Bless America!

paratisi on July 2, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Actually, if something happened to you I would not care one bit…just being honest…

PatriotRider on July 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

C’mon, you just know we would be crying in our extra beer trying to ease the feeling of loss.

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Honestly, gotta go with PatriotRider on this one arnold, cuz it’d only be as long as the next open registration before he’d be replaced by 10 more Soro’s bots….ha!

Tim Zank on July 2, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Given a standard deduction large enough to make the tax progressive for families with income under $100K, I could live with this.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM

There’s not enough money made by those making over $100K to pay for the size of government you and your friends want.

“I rob banks because that’s where the money is.”

– Willie Sutton

Big Government Robs The Middle Class Because That’s Where The Money Is!

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 9:30 PM

What’s Texas’s stand on this? Get it in gear Perry!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Perry is not down with it.

stvnscott on July 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Actually, if something happened to you I would not care one bit…just being honest…

PatriotRider on July 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM

C’mon, you just know we would be crying in our extra beer trying to ease the feeling of loss.

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Arnold, I love ya, man, but I’m going to have to go with PatriotRider and Tim Zank on this one.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Arnold, I love ya, man, but I’m going to have to go with PatriotRider and Tim Zank on this one.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Don’t they have sarcasm where you come from? lol, Made me think of the time I asked you if you were Mormon. It was a joke about being ok with being a multiple wife—not really an inquiry into your religion. :)

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Save your breath. The crew here are a lost cause. These radical ideologues don’t mind watching their loved ones drown if the result favors their bankrupt ideology.

Uppereastside on July 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Lol. You will be fine when he wins. You will continue coming to HA bi$hing and moaning about how the world will come to an end if the dems win in 2016.

Uppereastside on July 2, 2012 at 9:46 PM

My question is… Will an attempt at Nullification stop a general strike if somehow ObamaTax gets reelected?

The possibility of a total shutdown due to perceived voter fraud, if ObamaTax gets reelected, would make the crowds at the 9/12 event look like a high school chess club meeting. 2012 is going to have more cameras trained on polling places than you could ever imagine. Any “New Black Panther like Voter Intimidation” may well be met with resistance at a level, never thought possible in this country.

It’s a sad thought, but when the rule of law is no longer the law of the land, bloodshed is only inches away and revolution is just around the block. I hope these theories will never be answered or even tested, but that depends on Nov.6th and getting the Racist-in-Chief out of “HIS” office(as he’s so fond of saying).

God Bless America!

paratisi on July 2, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Democratics will cheat, they always do, and most of that cheating is invisible to an uninvolved observer. You can’t tell that a busload of ‘voters’ in St. Louis didn’t come from East St. Louis. Cheating is done months ahead of time, by padding the rolls, by registering the dead, the illegal aliens, voters voting in multiple states and towns, those in jails, stealing the votes of the infirm, etc.

Long-term we fight cheating with strong voter-ID and voting roll cleaning laws. There’s no other way.

slickwillie2001 on July 2, 2012 at 9:46 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Save your breath. The crew here are a lost cause. These radical ideologues don’t mind watching their loved ones drown if the result favors their bankrupt ideology.

Uppereastside on July 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Nonsense, we take care of our loved ones, we just enjoy batting the clueless and soulless like ya’ll around….

Tim Zank on July 2, 2012 at 9:47 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Save your breath. The crew here are a lost cause. These radical ideologues don’t mind watching their loved ones drown if the result favors their bankrupt ideology.

Uppereastside on July 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Too many people in the world anyway. And nobody loves me so it’s all good.

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Lol. You will be fine when he wins. You will continue coming to HA bi$hing and moaning about how the world will come to an end if the dems win in 2016.

Uppereastsidewelfarerecipient on July 2, 2012 at 9:46 PM

You kids really do live in a bubble doncha?

Tim Zank on July 2, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Scott’s only in favor of federal health care programs when he’s in a position to steal from them.

Typical Republican attitude: screw the working poor. it’s an honest reflection of Republican values. It would be more honest if they’d simply admit that they actually don’t care if Wal Mart employees live or die.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I kinda like having Rick Scott as my governor. So, u. e., you can feel free to enjoy a big 64 oz. cup of STFU.

Moose Drool on July 2, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Don’t they have sarcasm where you come from? lol, Made me think of the time I asked you if you were Mormon. It was a joke about being ok with being a multiple wife—not really an inquiry into your religion. :)

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I was being sarcastic, too!!! XOXO

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Uppereastside on July 2, 2012 at 9:46 PM

You are the one lying about killing poor people and giving passes to the 1%, that’s your guy. And don’t forget about your guy arming the Mexican drug cartels either. He’s so cool. More pictures of him with George Clooney and he is a shoe in for reelection. And why would I stop coming to HA regardless of who wins? You are illogical.

Cindy Munford on July 2, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I was being sarcastic, too!!! XOXO

Resist We Much on July 2, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Well then you caught me looking with that curve ball. :)

arnold ziffel on July 2, 2012 at 10:22 PM

The Republicans in congress need to promise to give a rebate to the states who don’t expand the medicare once they have control. It’s not a winning idea to make your state a willing host if you won’t be compensated later.

I don’t know if that would be constitutional, however. The rebate.

Buddahpundit on July 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM

That’s okay, Mr. Scott for the next governor of Florida will just opt in.

Sherman1864 on July 2, 2012 at 11:42 PM

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Save your breath. The crew here are a lost cause. These radical ideologues don’t mind watching their loved ones drown if the result favors their bankrupt ideology.

Uppereastside on July 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Nancy calls me and my family Free Riders–I don’t know if her medications make her incoherent when using insurance-speak or if she really is that ignorant–because we pay for our own medical care out of our own pockets.

In your shared-responsibility world, whose care should I be paying for? Or who would you rather have pay for mine? (Never mind that we also help elderly family and friends, that’s none of your d**n business, and if you try to compel me to do it I’ll refuse.)

You smug little house-slaves should learn some self-respect. Don’t you ever feel the slightest shame for warming the beds of your overlords? Do you really expect our respect, knowing that you’ve become sugar babies?

No, I’d rather me and mine be free. And I’d rather never be forced onto the plantation. Any plantation. And mine are the only ones I can teach to value that freedom. You, however, obviously believe that freedom is irresponsible. And (shudder) costly. And too hard. And the plantation is sooo nice, if the rest of us would just learn how to cooperate with the masters.

rwenger43 on July 3, 2012 at 12:13 AM

What warmsmy heart is Erika’s spunky, spot on posts. A huge improvement over the gee willikers tone of Tina Korbe’s posts.

ardenenoch on July 3, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Hey, and speaking of Democrap tax increases, I got my *Crook County, Illinois* tax bill today. That’s O’Bozo’s Crook County, run by Democrats for a few decades? Black Corruptocrats, white mobster Democrats, illegal aliens, limousine liberals, socialists, union thugs, Mexicans who can barely speak English — you know, the DNC coalition?

33% increase. One year. Coming your way, America.

Jaibones on July 3, 2012 at 12:28 AM

That’s okay, Mr. Scott for the next governor of Florida will just opt in.

Sherman1864 on July 2, 2012 at 11:42 PM

When we successfully get rid of Obama care, it won’t be a problem for a future governor to opt into.

FoxyLady on July 3, 2012 at 12:36 AM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Great idea! I’ve had my eye on some lakefront property…………

(btw, ue, have you got any idea just how stupid you sound?)

Solaratov on July 3, 2012 at 12:56 AM

You’re right. You should let poor people die. While subsidizing vacation homes and hedge fund managers’ bonuses.

urban elitist on July 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Oh? And how much of your paycheck have you turned over voluntarily to buy “the poor” health insurance to keep them from dying?

None. Which makes you a murderer.

Why won’t you hand over 50% of your income to buy the poor health insurance? Why do you want poor people to die? You could do something about that RIGHT NOW, TODAY, but instead you let poor people die.

What’s the matter? Your lies suddenly backfiring on you?

northdallasthirty on July 3, 2012 at 1:51 AM

Save your breath. The crew here are a lost cause. These radical ideologues don’t mind watching their loved ones drown if the result favors their bankrupt ideology.

Uppereastside on July 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Projection. The only way your loved ones would ever receive help is if someone else was paying for it, so you project onto conservatives the fact that you won’t pay for and won’t care for your own family.

Plus the fact that you’re a tax cheat and commit welfare fraud.

northdallasthirty on July 3, 2012 at 1:53 AM

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