Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads
posted at 8:00 am on July 1, 2012 by Allahpundit
One last burst of obsessive Court analysis this morning before the media gets back to the campaign. Pelosi will hit “Meet the Press” to expound on her compelling “are you serious?” theory of congressional power while Boehner will turn up on “Face the Nation” to discuss repeal. Your best bet, though, is “This Week,” where Stephanopoulos will ask Ted Kennedy’s wife the tough questions about whether she thinks Teddy’s high-fiving with God in heaven. Then comes the roundtable featuring (a) Artur Davis, who’s gone from Democrat to independent to conservative warrior in record time; (b) Keith Olbermann, who’s earned a spot on this highly rated national television show by, I guess, keeping up his Twitter feed; and (c) George Will, who’ll explain to America why having the Court bless the biggest congressional power grab in decades is a huge win for conservatism or something.
The line-up via WaPo:
NBC’s Meet the Press: Democratic Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA); former Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT); Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA); Rich Lowry, National Review; Eugene Robinson, Washington Post; Chuck Todd, NBC; Savannah Guthrie, NBC
CBS’ Face the Nation: Speaker Rep. John Boehner (R-OH); Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY); Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK); Gov. Martin O’Malley (D-MD); Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI); John Harris, Politico; Major Garrett, National Journal; John Dickerson, CBS and Slate; Jan Crawford, CBS
ABC’s This Week: Vicki Kennedy, widow of former Sen. Ted Kennedy; White House chief of staff, Jack Lew; Rep. Paul Ryan, (R-WI); Keith Olbermann, political commentator; George Will, ABC News; Donna Brazile, ABC News; Rep. Artur Davis (R-AL); Terry Moran, ABC News
Fox News Sunday: John Brennan, White House Counterterrorism Adviser; Joel Osteen, Lakewood Church; Victoria Osteen, Lakewood Church; Brit Hume, Fox News; Liz Marlantes, Christian Science Monitor; Kimberly Strassel, Wall Street Journal; Charles Lane, Washington Post; Dr. Suzan Murray, The National Zoo
CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: Jack Lew, White House chief of staff; former Governor Jennifer Granholm, (D-MI); Carly Florina, California Senate Candidate; Dan Lothian, CNN; Susan Page, USA Today; Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO)
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22044 on May 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Pfeiffer made Goebbels scream with joy all day.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:35 PM
H/t Vegas Rick
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM
All that’s left is for them to say “I am not a crook”
gophergirl on May 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM
The Liar in Chief
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Well what do ya know……SURPRISE.
The gop knew of this last year.
Like Romney and his pathetic campaign the republicans are incapable of effective opposition to Obama……….or are they just happy to be complicit and let Obama be the “bad cop” so they can whine about “big government” and then enjoy the perks of it?
Once again……………..THE gop SUCKS.
http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-informed-irs-investigation-last-125615676–abc-news-politics.html
PappyD61 on May 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM
I think they really mean to say: IRS Elephant.
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM
What’s the over/under on when the First Lady joins the “full ginsberg” defense line-up? 2 weeks?
Robert_Paulson on May 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM
President Obama-
least informed person in the country. Who knew!
gerrym51 on May 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if they say, “It’s none of your business.”
Liam on May 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM
ir·rel·e·vant
[ i rélləvənt ]
not applicable: not relevant or important
If it’s irrelevant… than why is it..somehow not?
The twists and contortions they must make for themselves to turn lies into truth.. and hide their contempt for the people and the law.
JellyToast on May 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM
That’s the thing that makes this so entertaining. Obama is either a thug lying crook or a doofus who is not doing his job.
Basically he’s everything we thought he was.
gophergirl on May 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM
yes they were informed that an investigation was started. apparently
Obama was not told
gerrym51 on May 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Oh please oh please let them say that. PLEASE!
gophergirl on May 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Dude’s a failure.
CW on May 19, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Nah, the Democrats have left Goebbles and have since moved on to more advanced Soviet-style propaganda.
Soviet propaganda documents poor, fat Americans “starving” while you yourself are starving and scratching your head in bewilderment at what the state is trying tell you about fat starving Americans. But don’t scratch your head too hard, comrade, lest you would want to raise suspicion from your party-minded neighbor (who is also starving, BTW.)
Punchenko on May 19, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Sorry, Jazz. I’ve got lots of kindness in my heart. But, like Susan Rice before him, Dan Pfeiffer had a choice. Be a good Obama soldier and get his reputation (such as it is) shredded, or stand up and say, “Hell no. Get someone else.” He chose poorly.
Mitoch55 on May 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM
So Dear Liar is barely informed when an ambassador is under attack, doesn’t have any high ranking officials tell him about the IRS problem, but when a marginal basketball player announces he’s gay, Dear Liar calls him that day. That’s the story you want to go with?
rbj on May 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM
What did we expect out of Obama? He was never vetted. This job is way above his paygrade.
kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Pathological liars lying pathologically.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM
“We’re not crooks – we’re incompetent” is their battlecry. The water is circling the drain, Barry.
Philly on May 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Kindness is not an infinite commodity and is not to be wasted on the depraved indifferent.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM
I don’t know about that. Jabba the Crowley was crowing on CNN about Barry’s 53% approval rating despite all of the scandals surrounding his administration. She was in absolute glee — all 800 pounds of her! — at how the Democrats could break the law and get away with it. She was cackling away in delight while downing a whole bottle of Hershey’s chocolate syrup.
Punchenko on May 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM
It’s just amazing to me how many in the LSM and general population are willing to buy the notions that Obama was uninformed or otherwise asleep at the wheel, low-level flunkies were operating totally under the radar for two years, and the law is irrelevant.
Is this what Obama’s supporters are willing to believe, and also give him a pass for it?
Liam on May 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Relevant
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Goebbels was just a premature partially working prototype of Pfeiffer.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM
I see a pattern here.
Irrelevant!
“What difference, at this point, does it make?”
“That is inappropriate and is too consistent with the way in which you conduct yourself as a member of Congress. It’s unacceptable and it’s shameful.” — Holder to Issa
Paul-Cincy on May 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM
Looks like a lot of unfettered irrelevancy going on around here.
wright on May 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM
They would sooner be waterboarded than admit they were taken in by Dear Leader.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Pfeiffer, like Carney, sold out to Obama. He is not a poor ho’ who got into prostitution because of poverty or abuse. He is a willing, knowing participant who sold out for proximity to power.
Or if he’s a True Believer, he is finding out that there any many who did not greet Obama’s election as the Second Coming of the Messiah. Cultists are stunned and tongue-tied when they find out their dogma doesn’t cut it in the rational world.
Wethal on May 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Democrats play to win and his supporters are rooting him on in using the federal government to hammer and ruin the opposition. Conservatives need to wake up and realize the struggle that they are engaged in.
Punchenko on May 19, 2013 at 3:55 PM
I think I’ll go out and rob a bank. After all, the crime doesn’t matter; all that matters is we stop this from ever happening again.
PattyJ on May 19, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Look at how long leftists denied Stalinism’s atrocities, and the failure of Communism.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” -Philip K. Dick,
Wethal on May 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM
That slope isn’t just slippery, it’s dead vertical.
Kenosha Kid on May 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM
This time Barry went too far. Everyone fears and loathes the IRS, and Democrats have stepped up to condemn the targeting and urge an investigation, mostly to save their hides in the 2014 midterms. What scares the Dems is that they have no idea how far up this goes, and they need to be in front of it for damage control and salvaging the brand if (when) we find out it goes all the way to Obama’s desk.
Barry will find a scapegoat to wear prison stripes, even if he has to get tax cheat Geithner out of mothballs to throw him under the bus. Let’s see what Sarah Hall Ingram has to say under oath. Actually, I’d like the investigation to go uphill all the way from the Cincy office so the stench can be followed up the ladder. Special prosecutor all the way.
Philly on May 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM
The Crime Syndicate la Obama Nostra – Al Capone could only dream.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM
I thought that the word “irrelevant” was only supposed to be used to describe Sarah Palin.
NoNails on May 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM
You’re joshing me, right?
lynncgb on May 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM
Oh, my, with all that money that she makes carrying water for the One you’d think she could afford some Godiva or other fine Belgian chocolatiers’ creations :) she should learn from her role model, Marie Mooch Antoinette :)
jimver on May 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Stupid R chick who voted for Obama.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Sadly, Dan is eating up a lot of the news cycle with his amazing tour of whitewash. There’s another story coming later.
Jazz Shaw on May 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Well, we accepted it when he said the numerous problems and inconsistencies surrounding his Constitutional eligibility were irrelevant instead of demanding that he authorize the release of all relevant documents and fully answer the questions of the American people he wanted to represent.
When an abusive spouse hits you the first time, it’s just the start of the abuse to follow. If you bury your head in the sand because the truth is too uncomfortable, difficult, or painful to face, he might very well end up killing you before it’s all over.
Cara C on May 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM
‘Irrelevant’ is arrogance personified.
I do not think that this is a winning hand for the Obama White House.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM
Chomski, the Left’s favorite ‘intellectual’, guru and apologist for genocidal monsters still insists that Pol Pot actually saved a million of souls by ordering the evacuation of Phnom Penh and that the deaths by Americans in Cambodgia were comparable if not equivalent to Poll Pot’s genocide (which he insisted for a long time – in his idiotic books – it never happened).
jimver on May 19, 2013 at 4:17 PM
Liar.
On 12 September 2012, Matt Spetalnick of Reuters reported that:
Pffeifer: ‘O in loop all night’
Hicks: ‘I told State that Stevens was dead @ 9 PM Tues.’
Reuters: ‘O was told of Stevens’ death Wed AM.’
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Elaboration requested. Confirm sources and break it here.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Obama’s new campaign song.
President Irrelevant.
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Where are the photographs of Obama on the night of Benghazi?
We’ve seen Obama in the Situation Room when Osama bin Laden was killed.
We’ve seen the moment that he was told about Newtown in the Oval Office.
We’ve seen him
shooting skeetbruising the hell out of his shoulder at Camp David.We’ve seen him trapped in a spider web in the West Wing.
We’ve seen him meeting with a pirate in the Oval Office.
We’ve seen him praying in the Oval Office after the Boston bombing.
Where are the photos of him on the night of Benghazi? Do they not exist because the official WH photog doesn’t take photos of the President while he is asleep? And, if so, what does that say about the Commander-in-Chief, who knew the first Ambassador in more than 3 decades was missing?
How is an incompetent, neglectful and passive executive better than a malevolent one? If both end up creating disasters, does it really matter why?
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM
National Day of Protest sponsored by the Tea Party Patriots.
Tuesday! Look for your city.
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/irs-protests/
katy on May 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM
You can’t fix what you don’t understand. I think there are still far too many on our side who think all this is normal cookie cutter politics…it’s not and this administration fruits bear witness to that. God only knows what we are NOT aware of…
Alinsky on May 19, 2013 at 4:27 PM
So the white house word of the day is “irrelevant”. What difference does that make? The symbol for the white house is an empty chair. The country is lost because nobody cares. When it all breaks down, maybe somebody will care. Caesar, where are you? I think I’ll buy a few more boxes of bullets next week.
Old Country Boy on May 19, 2013 at 4:30 PM
The pumpkins are all around, even here. Nice to see president…you name them. But, don’t get emotional. Stay RINOed or in love with this or that name. Otherwise you need a shrink.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Irrelevant, huh?
That wasn’t one of the “I” words I had in mind.
ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM
When even that old and confused geezer Bob Schieffer has a clue what is going on you know you have been caught….red handed…
William Eaton on May 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Obama was doing something that night that would shock America. My imagination will only go so far and then I have to stop…
He was NOT sleeping.
Where was he and what was he doing that his admin would go to such lengths to cover it up?
katy on May 19, 2013 at 4:36 PM
Obama’s Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 4:37 PM
Obama’s Dumb and Dumber, by a leftist
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Why does it have to be one or the other? Seems to me Zero is both Malevolent AND incompetent.
What do you think?
They did say he Went to bed. Completely indifferent to what was going on.
dogsoldier on May 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Let me point out again re Benghazi, there were two facilities in Benghazi, one the nominal consulate, the other a building with twenty or more CIA employees. What were they doing there?
How did we make it this long without answering that very basic question? Why isn’t that the first question in any interview?
Don’t want to know the answer maybe?
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM
That’s too simple an answer for this situation and for who we know he is. No…I do not believe he is indifferent. He is incredibly calculated.
katy on May 19, 2013 at 4:44 PM
I read thirty or more and based on what happened I think they must be analysts, not field assets.
dogsoldier on May 19, 2013 at 4:45 PM
FIFY
talkingpoints on May 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM
HERE’S A THOUGHT! WHY DON’T THEY TRY TELLING THE TRUTH!
GarandFan on May 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Probably some sort of Iran-Contra type op.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 4:48 PM
What did the GOP know? Have you read Issa’s letter?
Basilsbest on May 19, 2013 at 4:49 PM
There are some Americans who have been watching this “plan” come to fruition. The Ammo buys. The curious firing and/or resignations of top 4 star generals, the gun grab attempts (not to mention the UN arms treaty threat which is coming soon)…
They don’t seem to be too worried about congressional hearings or scandals do they? They have something in the works and it isn’t going to be pleasant.
katy on May 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM
valerie will not be pleased. thats dans big problem.
t8stlikchkn on May 19, 2013 at 4:50 PM
I knew he would become irrelevant at some point in his second term, but it did not see it happening this quickly. The next 3 years are going to be spent handling scandals, and I am sure this is just the beginning of the scandals that are going to come out. Time to start the campaign for 2016 because Obama, whether he stays in office or not, has just become President Irrelevant.
Ellis on May 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Obama: “IRS, AP, State Department and Benghazi…I don’t know nothin’. I have no idea what happened and I don’t know anything about any of it.”
Mr. President, never go full retard.
“Kirk Lazarus: Everybody knows you never go full retard.
Tugg Speedman: What do you mean?
Kirk Lazarus: Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, ‘Rain Man,’ look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho’. Not retarded. You know Tom Hanks, ‘Forrest Gump.’ Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and won a ping-pong competition. That ain’t retarded. Peter Sellers, ‘Being There.’ Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don’t buy that? Ask Sean Penn, 2001, ‘I Am Sam.’ Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed…”
Django on May 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Carney was interviewed about his week…and he said he enjoyed it.
So there ya go…
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
tomshup on May 19, 2013 at 4:52 PM
I think we need to start looking at this from the standpoint of what WH staffer has both the power to forcefeed these types of performances, and also has a total and complete lack of discernment, professionalism, faith in the country and political/p.r. skill to realize that such things are gasoline on a grass fire.
i.e, who in the white house…close to the president…has a) immense power and influence, and is b) dumber than a sack of rocks, twice as tone deaf and is so untouchable as to not give a shit what people think?
I have a pretty good idea who this person might be. And although there are more than handful of possibilities, there’s one in particular who stands out, iykwimaityd
Sacramento on May 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM
You mean Syria/Al Qaeda, wherein the administration’s end run around Congress and the law was in support of elements of Al Qaeda in Syria via arms from Libya.
Yup, it seems plausible.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 4:55 PM
Yeah.. that’s why they elected him as President.. and why we pay his salary. . so he can be an irrelevant fact.
But try telling that to the 4 dead Americans. I guess you could say Obama thought their cries for help were irrelevant too.
Will the IRS consider it irrelevant if we don’t pay our taxes?
If we gave the same kind of answers to the IRS during an audit.. would they say in response to our repeated “I don’t know that.. I can’t remember that.. I can’t recollect that…but I’m sorry” would they just shrug their shoulders and say “Oh well.. however much money you made is irrelevant anyway. How ever many taxes you owe is an irrelevant fact. Have a nice day We go now in peace.”
I don’t think so.
JellyToast on May 19, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Jay Sekulow is suing the IRS on behalf of some conservative clients this next week.
Maybe we can get him to bring a RICO action against the Obama administration.
BuckeyeSam on May 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/anonymous-cincinnati-irs-official-everything-comes-from-the-top./article/2530001
BOOM
Ve Vere chust following orders…
dogsoldier on May 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Chicolini: Now I aska you one. What has a trunk, but no key, weighs 2,000 pounds and lives in a circus?
Prosecutor: That’s irrelevant.
Chicolini: Irrelephant? Hey, that’sa that answer. There’s a whole lot of irrelephants in the circus.
Couldn’t help but think of this went The Line of the Day went out on this morning’s talk shows. Only thing is Groucho, Chico and Harpo governed Fredonia better than the current administration is running this country (though if Obama were to sing Groucho’s lines:
“The country’s taxes must be fixed,
and I know what to do with it.
If you think you’re paying too much now,
just wait till I get through with it!
Nobody would think he was making a joke).
jon1979 on May 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM
I would. I must have less than an ounce.
fogw on May 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Of course they knew about it…They requested the investigation in June.
Sheeesh!
“In a letter dated July 11, 2012, the man who conducted the investigation — IRS inspector general J. Russell George — wrote to Rep. Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, telling him that he was investigating the issue and offering to keep him updated as the investigation progressed.
“The Oversight Committee knew about the audit because it requested it,” an Issa aide told ABC News. Issa released the letter, along with his own letter dated June 28, 2012 requesting the investigation, last week…”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/republicans-informed-of-irs-investigation-last-year/
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:07 PM
Great likes think amind.
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 5:07 PM
Was Pfeiffer appointed as Secretary of Relevance?
lynncgb on May 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Some on our side need to do a much better job of preventing themselves from being played by deceitful Dem propagandists – it would be very good for us if they’d examine why they are susceptible to that sort of manipulation in the first place.
Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Carney was interviewed about his week…and he said he enjoyed it.
So there ya go…
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
That man is a genuine cretin, on top of being a liar. I don’t think he even realizes or cares anymore that it’s 80% lies that comes out of his mouth.
jimver on May 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM
We understand plenty:
1.) The media shapes public opinion through newspapers, movies, television shows, etc. and pushes the American mind leftward.
2.) The universities also shape public opinion but elite public opinion. The future elites — the cognitive elite — are left-leaning and are told what to think instead of how to think in the pursuit of truth.
Control both and you control the direction of the country. Oh, and someone like Barry Obama would be mocked for thinking he could be POTUS.
Punchenko on May 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Well that could be anybody! Hell, it could be Barry’s boy toy, Reggie Love.
Hmmm… Her Most Exalted Excellency, Madame Shadow President Valerie Jarrett, perhaps?
Punchenko on May 19, 2013 at 5:17 PM
Are the LSM Presstitutes finally having an Irrevelation about Obama?
Irrevelation: Sudden discovery that something or someone is totally irrelevant.
glcinpdx on May 19, 2013 at 5:21 PM
His pension is secure.
His lies will bring no repercussions.
Lie on!
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Resist we much at 4:21 pm:
“Perhaps the WH photographer doesn’t take pictures of the President when he’s …. Chooming?”
FIFY
Turn MD Red on May 19, 2013 at 5:37 PM
“when the feds came knocking for AP journalists’ call records last year, Verizon apparently turned the data over with no questions asked. The New York Times, citing an AP employee, reported Tuesday that at least two of the reporters’ personal cellphone records “were provided to the government by Verizon Wireless without any attempt to obtain permission to tell them so the reporters could ask a court to quash the subpoena….”
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/05/18/top-secret-verizon-gave-phone-records-to-doj/
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:52 PM
Yep…Reminds me of Clinton(s)
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM
There may be an opportunity here for a wireless company to gain market share by advertising “we only provide phone records to the federal government if they show us a search warrant”.
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 6:15 PM
Colbyjack on May 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM
All this does is underscore again the disrespect the people who support Obama have for him.
How weak they consider him.
The press won’t ask him hard questions. Why? Because they know he can’t answer them. They know he’s weak. They know that if they treated him as they should, with hard questions and demands for the truth, he’d crumple.
They have babied him, propped him up, and they continue to do so because deep in their hearts they hold him in contempt. And I think the roots of it are liberal racism.
MAC1000 on May 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM
Like throwing spagetti at the fridge to see if any stick…
Hmmmm…
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM
It’s also Pride…Dan Rather still thinks he was right.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM
Should’ve asked him how his search for Lucy Ramirez was going.
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM
Who will be the first one to use the incorrect IRREVELANT?
Biden, maybe?
Or BO himself?
TimBuk3 on May 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM
Or, they could go with this Ron Ziegler gem:
massrighty on May 19, 2013 at 7:54 PM
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