Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:00 am on July 1, 2012 by Allahpundit

One last burst of obsessive Court analysis this morning before the media gets back to the campaign. Pelosi will hit “Meet the Press” to expound on her compelling “are you serious?” theory of congressional power while Boehner will turn up on “Face the Nation” to discuss repeal. Your best bet, though, is “This Week,” where Stephanopoulos will ask Ted Kennedy’s wife the tough questions about whether she thinks Teddy’s high-fiving with God in heaven. Then comes the roundtable featuring (a) Artur Davis, who’s gone from Democrat to independent to conservative warrior in record time; (b) Keith Olbermann, who’s earned a spot on this highly rated national television show by, I guess, keeping up his Twitter feed; and (c) George Will, who’ll explain to America why having the Court bless the biggest congressional power grab in decades is a huge win for conservatism or something.

The line-up via WaPo:

NBC’s Meet the Press: Democratic Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA); former Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT); Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA); Rich Lowry, National Review; Eugene Robinson, Washington Post; Chuck Todd, NBC; Savannah Guthrie, NBC

CBS’ Face the Nation: Speaker Rep. John Boehner (R-OH); Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY); Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK); Gov. Martin O’Malley (D-MD); Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI); John Harris, Politico; Major Garrett, National Journal; John Dickerson, CBS and Slate; Jan Crawford, CBS

ABC’s This Week: Vicki Kennedy, widow of former Sen. Ted Kennedy; White House chief of staff, Jack Lew; Rep. Paul Ryan, (R-WI); Keith Olbermann, political commentator; George Will, ABC News; Donna Brazile, ABC News; Rep. Artur Davis (R-AL); Terry Moran, ABC News

Fox News Sunday: John Brennan, White House Counterterrorism Adviser; Joel Osteen, Lakewood Church; Victoria Osteen, Lakewood Church; Brit Hume, Fox News; Liz Marlantes, Christian Science Monitor; Kimberly Strassel, Wall Street Journal; Charles Lane, Washington Post; Dr. Suzan Murray, The National Zoo

CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: Jack Lew, White House chief of staff; former Governor Jennifer Granholm, (D-MI); Carly Florina, California Senate Candidate; Dan Lothian, CNN; Susan Page, USA Today; Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO)


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I’ll pass, I have had enough of listening to this B.S. all week.

Come January all the people who don’t get that a wave of taxes are headed for us (Thanks To Judge Dread Roberts) are going to wake up stunned and broke. Wake up America – smell the fascism.

Dr Evil on July 1, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Nancy Pelosi is a dingbat.

Dongemaharu on July 1, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Nancy Pelosi is a dingbat.

Dongemaharu on July 1, 2012 at 8:11 AM

You betcha!

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:13 AM

One last burst of obsessive Court analysis this morning before the media gets back to the campaign.

Will that spill over to Hot Air?

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Pelosi, Olbermann, et al? No thanks, I’ll pass.

50sGuy on July 1, 2012 at 8:15 AM

I’ll pass, I have had enough of listening to this B.S. all week.

Dr Evil on July 1, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Me too! And why would anyone want to listen to anything Pelosi has to say. That lady is just south of retarded.

Alabama Infidel on July 1, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Nancy Pelosi is a dingbat.

Dongemaharu on July 1, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Bless her heart…

(Although I don’t think that’ll save her from the eternal pitchfork)

turfmann on July 1, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Dingbat, bathtub-bob… no I guess there will be no breakfast this morning…

Valkyriepundit on July 1, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Bless her heart…

turfmann on July 1, 2012 at 8:19 AM

I once had someone explain to me that “Bless your heart” is Southern for “What an idiot.”

beatcanvas on July 1, 2012 at 8:21 AM

I once had someone explain to me that “Bless your heart” is Southern for “What an idiot.”

beatcanvas on July 1, 2012 at 8:21 AM

“Congenial Idiot!”

JimK on July 1, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Come January all the people who don’t get that a wave of taxes are headed for us (Thanks To Judge Dread Roberts) are going to wake up stunned and broke.

And that wave of taxes won’t keep up with the rate of spending. They’re accelerating the eventual collapse of our economy and at the same time asking everyone to suffer the maximum till real pain comes. Wonderful.

lowandslow on July 1, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Vicki Kennedy on ABC. DNC’s backup plan in case proud Cherokee minority Granny Warren gets caught in any more fibs close to the MA Senate election.

philw1776 on July 1, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Keith Olbermann, who’s earned a spot on this highly rated national television show by, I guess, keeping up his Twitter feed;

Love me some Sunday morning snark! Did Olby tweet about the BFD like our juvenile in chief? Next thing you know he’ll be inviting Cher to the WH to yuk it up about magic undies. There’s no class in our WH anymore, that’s for sure.

scalleywag on July 1, 2012 at 8:28 AM

If I’m thinking of the right women, I do have to say that Liz Marlantes of the Christian Science Monitor, who will be on FNS, is yummy.

Why is ABC including Olberman? I thought he died.

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Jazz Shaw live tweeting This week is now a new part of my Sunday morning.

Face the Nation looks like its going to be good.

boogaleesnots on July 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM

George Will, who’ll explain to America why having the Court bless the biggest congressional power grab in decades is a huge win for conservatism or something.

I can almost stand listening to Pelosi more than these “stroke of genius” theories by Roberts’ apologists. With the stroke of a pen, he re-wrote the law, thus destroying 1/7th of the economy and consigning millions to premature suffering and death. Where I come from we call that cowardice and treason, not genius.

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I once had someone explain to me that “Bless your heart” is Southern for “What an idiot.”

beatcanvas on July 1, 2012 at 8:21 AM

It depends.

When I say “bless your heart” to my elderly neighbor who just brought me fresh baked muffins I sincerely mean “bless your heart”.

When I say “bless your heart” to HA trolls like Uppereastside, I sincerely mean, “what an idiot.”

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Righties need to stay on message this morning: it is a tax, which the present 51-vote total needed in the Senate to repeal 0bamaCare, rather than the previous 60 before Roberts’ ruling, proves!

Justice Roberts showed 0bamessiah 2 boxes. One was labeled, “Commerce Clause”, the other, “Tax”. 0bamessiah opened the first box. On the inside of its cover, it said “4-5″, and its contents were barren. Then, our 0bamessiah opened the second, and immediately had to plug his nose, because the box stank something fierce! Even though it was 98 degress in Washington, DC at the time, the contents of the box were steaming anyway! On the inside cover of this box, it said, “5-4″.

Curious about the source of the steam & the horrendous odor, our 0bamessiah looked into the box, and saw, “Here’s looking at how your precious healthcare measure will be funded, buddy!”, spelled out in poo. Our great 0bamessiah then looked at Roberts, who said to Him, “I offer you the choice between these 2 boxes, and no others. Take you pick!” Our 0bamessiah felt He had no choice but to take the poo box, labeled “Tax” on the outside, and take it He did, frowning & growning while doing so! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 8:42 AM

So much liberalism……..and not enough insect repellant.

Rovin on July 1, 2012 at 8:43 AM

lol

growning

groaning

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 8:44 AM

When I say “bless your heart” to HA trolls like Uppereastside, I sincerely mean, “what an idiot.”

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:42 AM

“Bless your little heart” means if you had any brains, you’d be a half-wit.

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 8:44 AM

oops that was supposed to be a strike! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Joel Osteen, Lakewood Church; Victoria Osteen, Lakewood Church

*facepalm*

Selling another book, are they?

What an embrassment they are.

Faux preacher on Fox News.

itsnotaboutme on July 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Just to clarify, that phrase wasn’t directed at you, I was just defining another version.

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM

nope. can’t take it anymore. its high tide. time to take the kayak out.

this tune goes out to justice roberts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acvr_WJ9gfg&feature=related

bon voyage!

renalin on July 1, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Just to clarify, that phrase wasn’t directed at you, I was just defining another version.

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM

That’s ok, I knew what you meant. lol

IIRC I’ve used “Bless your little heart” when addressing L4L a couple of times.

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:51 AM

oh cripe…let the spiking of the football continue with the lsm throwing big time softballs to the libs and ask the gop how can you repeal a law that was just upheld by the supreme court? NEVERMIND dear leader not following the rule of law for immigrati

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 8:53 AM

ICYMI the RNC will be sending this out in a mailer.

http://www.gop.com/images/research/what_they_are_saying_about_the_obamacare_decision.pdf

And this ad was released on Friday.

Just Another Broken Promise

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:55 AM

I can’t believe any sentient human who has a life would be tuned to these shows, other than someone who’s “fallen and can’t get up” to change the channel.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on July 1, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Refuse to watch Fox when that pos Charles Lane is on.

Nexialist on July 1, 2012 at 9:04 AM

jack lew praising the court and talking about the 2 most popular parts of the law forget those pesky things called taxes and how about the 2000+ waivers from this bloody law….

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:05 AM

funny,jack says to stop the HC debate and implement the law…why won’t you implement the immigration laws you putz!

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM

jack blaming bush once again on fast and furious….

candy why can’t you ask him the hard hitting questions…c’mon

I think I will have to turn on the tube this am….

this is ridiculous…

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:09 AM

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:06 AM

I wonder if they’ll mention this?

kingsjester on July 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM

on=off

time to get the coffee…

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Our 0bamessiah felt He had no choice but to take the poo box, labeled “Tax” on the outside, and take it He did, frowning & growning while doing so! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Nothing speaks louder than silence, exactly what you heard yesterday on Oblamer’s weekly Saturday address–not one mention of the SC decision on Obamatax.

hillsoftx on July 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Nancy Pelosi is a dingbat.

Dongemaharu on July 1, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Dingbats around the world are insulted by that statement.

Mini-14 on July 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM

oh cripe…let the spiking of the football continue with the lsm throwing big time softballs to the libs and ask the gop how can you repeal a law that was just upheld by the supreme court? NEVERMIND dear leader not following the rule of law for immigrati

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Spiking the ball over what? LOL the idiots who would be wont to ask that nonsensical question, a group which sadly includes far too many like-minded, overly emotional people on the Right, are going to be peeing in their pants when they realize how they’ve let Roberts eff with the minds.

Let’s pound this into their heads: according to Roberts’ decision, now, only 51 votes are needed in the Senate to repeal 0bamessiahCare rather than 60, meaning it is a tax which can be relatively easily repealed, you frozen doorknobs! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM

kingsjester on July 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM

heh highly doubtful…

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:13 AM

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:13 AM

You’re right. What would have happened if a Republican would have done that?

kingsjester on July 1, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM

we can pound them in Nov

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:15 AM

kingsjester on July 1, 2012 at 9:14 AM

oooooh the 24/7 outrage…

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:17 AM

I’m not watching any of these programs. Has anyone mentioned Fast and Furious and the Holder contempt vote?

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 9:18 AM

candy asked jack lew, he began with blaming bush and its all political, yada yada yada, candy didn’t balk, just let him spew

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Its going to be boorish, insufferable liberals spiking the ball till hell won’t have it, and with media approval.

I’m so glad Republicans are so gracious.

Maybe we can take off the kindergartner boxing gloves now?

Maybe we can get serious about winning, and laying the blame on democrats?

Speakup on July 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Has anyone noticed that we are now 72 hours past Roberts’ ruling, and we’ve had — what? — only two snap polls by the major news outlets even touching the ObamaCare ruling. And this morning, instead of some living politician actually involved in the legislation, George Stephanopolous is dragging on the widow of Edward M to try and gin up some “You can’t criticize ObamaCare because Teddy’s dead” sort of sympathy among the swing voters (who at best would be watching the sound bites of Vicki’s appearance tonight or on Monday’s morning shows).

Neither of those are the actions of people who believe this is a winning judicial decision to campaign on for the next four months. If the ruling were wildly popular, we would already have seen half a dozen snap polls out there. This thing must really be requiring asking a lot of leading questions or weighting of samplings to come up with the “America Loves John Roberts” result the majority of the big media outlets are seeking.

jon1979 on July 1, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Nothing speaks louder than silence, exactly what you heard yesterday on Oblamer’s weekly Saturday address–not one mention of the SC decision on Obamatax.

hillsoftx on July 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Yep.

They are acting just like they did about F&F, which is going to give them the same result! :)

we can pound them in Nov

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Why wait ’til then?

There is a vote coming on this July 11th in the House – let’s remind them every opportunity we have that Roberts forced 0bamaCare into the law as a T-A-X, which is not what the Left wanted, is it?! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Lucky me me that I go to work at 0800 and won’t have to choose any of it…

Khun Joe on July 1, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Obamacare is a TAX.

The SCOTUS REWROTE Obamacare, an UNCONSTITUTIONAL action.

America’s TAXES WILL DRASTICALLY INCREASE.

These are the talking points the GOP have to convey, over and over and over from now until the election. They cannot give boring drawn out analyses about the decision or complexity of the decision.

Your TAXES will increase. Obama said your TAXES would not increase.

For God’s sake, be direct and repetitive.

madmonkphotog on July 1, 2012 at 9:27 AM

I wish they played Wimbledon on Sundays.

I can’t take any more of this Health Care crap. If it was really about expanding care to millions and making it affordable, they could have done it within the Constitution. Obviously it’s about growing govt and central planning.

Jackalope on July 1, 2012 at 9:30 AM

candy asked jack lew, he began with blaming bush and its all political, yada yada yada, candy didn’t balk, just let him spew

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM

I’m not surprised. Of course there wasn’t a Republican there to counter it, right?

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Has anyone noticed that we are now 72 hours past Roberts’ ruling, and we’ve had — what? — only two snap polls by the major news outlets even touching the ObamaCare ruling. And this morning, instead of some living politician actually involved in the legislation, George Stephanopolous is dragging on the widow of Edward M to try and gin up some “You can’t criticize ObamaCare because Teddy’s dead” sort of sympathy among the swing voters (who at best would be watching the sound bites of Vicki’s appearance tonight or on Monday’s morning shows).

Neither of those are the actions of people who believe this is a winning judicial decision to campaign on for the next four months. If the ruling were wildly popular, we would already have seen half a dozen snap polls out there.
This thing must really be requiring asking a lot of leading questions or weighting of samplings to come up with the “America Loves John Roberts” result the majority of the big media outlets are seeking.

jon1979 on July 1, 2012 at 9:22 AM

How could the Left be happy bragging about the shiny new tax that Roberts just pinned to their collective chest? Think about how funny it is that they are completely avoiding an in-depth discussion of their “victory”!

Anyone on the Right who is crying and/or moping about the ruling needs some therapy… :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Pelosi will hit “Meet the Press” to expound on her compelling “are you serious?” theory of congressional power.

Now that made me laugh.

Night Owl on July 1, 2012 at 9:34 AM

One last burst of obsessive Court analysis this morning before the media gets back to the campaign.

Will that spill over to Hot Air?

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 8:15 AM

I think we all know the answer to that. :)

Night Owl on July 1, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Nancy Pelosi is a dingbat.

Dongemaharu on July 1, 2012 at 8:11 AM

She looks as though she’s recently gone through another face tightening. She’s on her way to being “Madamized“.

Fallon on July 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM

This thing must really be requiring asking a lot of leading questions or weighting of samplings to come up with the “America Loves John Roberts” result the majority of the big media outlets are seeking.

jon1979 on July 1, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Let them live in their liberal “la la la I can’t hear yoooooooou” fantasyland.

Approval Ratings for Supreme Court Slip Following Health Care Ruling

Public opinion of the Supreme Court has grown more negative since the highly publicized ruling on the president’s health care law was released. A growing number now believe that the high court is too liberal and that justices pursue their own agenda rather than acting impartially.

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 9:38 AM

How could the Left be happy bragging about the shiny new tax that Roberts just pinned to their collective chest? Think about how funny it is that they are completely avoiding an in-depth discussion of their “victory”!

Anyone on the Right who is crying and/or moping about the ruling needs some therapy… :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Funny how that new tax will do NOTHING to shrink the deficit or bring back America’s once vaunted perfect credit rating.

DevilsPrinciple on July 1, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Anyone on the Right who is crying and/or moping about the ruling needs some therapy… :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Along this line, I wonder if Rush, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, or Mark Steyn have hired grief counselors for themselves yet? :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:41 AM

The thing about nan is, she probably the closest you get to normal coming out of San Fran, and that’s the scariest part of all………….:-/

angrymike on July 1, 2012 at 9:44 AM

I wonder if they’ll mention this?

kingsjester on July 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Nice write up Kingjester, You’re probably right about those ribs.

Mini-14 on July 1, 2012 at 9:44 AM

How could the Left be happy bragging about the shiny new tax that Roberts just pinned to their collective chest? Think about how funny it is that they are completely avoiding an in-depth discussion of their “victory”!

It’s only a tax to people who refuse to buy health insurance. So will any readers of this blog actually be affected by it? That’s highly unlikely.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

John Brennan, White House Counterterrorism Adviser is a liar when it comes to the ØbamaCareTax decision. His rectum must have a good coating of Vaseline to spin as much as he did. What a Democrat toolbox this fathead is.

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 9:23 AM

good point

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 9:31 AM

of course not…

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM

It’s only a tax to people who refuse to buy health insurance. So will any readers of this blog actually be affected by it? That’s highly unlikely.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

I don’t know why you would assume all republicans are rich, but whatever. How about the people whose insurance is considered “cadillac” by Obamacare standards? They have to pay a fee. How about the estimated 20 million families who will lose their coverage when their employer decides it’s cheaper to pay the penalty than to offer insurance? How about the people who will lose their jobs altogether because the cost of employing people has just gone through the roof? You really ought to read more.

Night Owl on July 1, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Good link.

Indeed Rasmussen in that poll summary also says:

Most voters had wanted the court to overturn the health care law and uphold the Arizona immigration law. The court ruled in the opposite way on both issues. Most voters continue to favor repeal of the president’s health care law.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on July 1, 2012 at 9:54 AM

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

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Liar. Read this. This is the part that I want you pay most attention to and learn from:

Not surprisingly, there was no mention Thursday of the 20 other different taxes hidden in Obamacare, many of which affect families earning less than $250,000 a year. The new taxes, which conservatively are estimated at around $675 billion (I’ll give 10 to 1 they will cost more) over the next decade, include:

A 2.3% excise tax on U.S. sales of medical devices that’s already devastating the medical supply industry and its workforce. The levy is a $20 billion blow to an industry that employs roughly 400,000. (By the way, with this little gem, here are a few fun facts to enjoy and ponder, especially if your looking for work: Michigan-based Stryker Corp., blames the tax for 1,000 layoffs; Indiana-based Zimmer Corp., which cites the tax in laying off 450 and taking a $50 million charge against earnings; Indiana-based Cook Medical Inc., which has scrubbed plans to open a U.S. factory; Minnesota-based Medtronic Inc., which expects an annual charge against earnings of $175 million, and Boston Scientific Corp., which has opted to open plants in tax-friendlier Ireland and China to help offset a $100 million charge against earnings.)
A 40% excise tax on so-called Cadillac, or higher cost, health insurance plans (Elitism is frowned upon under Obamacare – wonder what the unions think of this one? Oh, wait … that’s right – big unions got a deferral!)
A 3.8% surtax on investment income from capital gains and dividends that applies to single filers earning more than $200,000 and married couples filing jointly earning more than $250,000.
A $50,000 excise tax on charitable hospitals that fail to meet new “community health assessment needs,” “financial assistance” and other rules set by the Health and Human Services Dept.
A $24 billion tax on the paper industry to control a pollutant known as black liquor.
A $2.3 billion-a-year tax on drug companies (After all, they’re big and deserve it just because, don’t they?)
A 10% excise tax on indoor tanning salons. (No big deal. It’s always been cheaper to go the beach anyway.)
An $87 billion hike in Medicare payroll taxes for employees, as well as the self-employed (And we all know how greedy those capitalist-loving self-employed are!)
A hike in the threshold for writing off medical expenses to 10% of adjusted gross income from 7.5%.
A new cap on flexible spending accounts of $2,500 a year, (Because after all, we need more tax revenue, not savings!)
Elimination of the tax deduction for employer-provided prescription drug coverage for Medicare recipients.
An income surtax of 1% of adjusted gross income, rising to 2.5% by 2016, on individuals who refuse to go along with Obamacare by buying a policy not OK’d by the government.
A $2,000 tax charged to employers with 50 or more workers for every full-time worker not offered health coverage.
A $60 billion tax on health insurers. (Hmm … wonder where they’ll recoup the costs on this one?)

All told, there are 21 new or higher taxes imposed by Obama’s health care law — and 21 more reasons to repeal it.

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So take your Øbama supporting lies and bug off. I’m sure I will get nothing but an economics lecture, off-topic, from you so I’m not even including you in this comment – you can just go away. This comment is for the others here who might believe your lies.

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM

I’m not watching any of these programs. Has anyone mentioned Fast and Furious and the Holder contempt vote?

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Last night while watching Olympic trials on NBC I saw a news scroll that read something like, “Justice Dept. won’t press charges against Attorney General Eric Holder.” So there’s that!

Nikkia2112 on July 1, 2012 at 9:56 AM

It’s only a tax to people who refuse to buy health insurance. So will any readers of this blog actually be affected by it? That’s highly unlikely.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

And when private insurers go the way of the do-do because government does not have to turn a profit on any program, it becomes a “pay me now, or pay me later” tax for the government, you can call it a tax funded government insurance if you like, but either way you and everyone else will pay.

Single payer is the ultimate goal and you know it.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on July 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Romney/Jindal 2012

mike_NC9 on July 1, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Funny how that new tax will do NOTHING to shrink the deficit or bring back America’s once vaunted perfect credit rating.

DevilsPrinciple on July 1, 2012 at 9:40 AM

I’m not sure if I am reading you correctly, so please take the following appropriately!

When will the tax kick in, if it ever does? Is there an election before that point? How many emotionally mature people do you know who hand-wring and cry before an outcome has had a chance to happen?

Roberts’ decision should be energizing/galvanizing people on the Right, who also need to be reminded that, just as they’re is no crying in baseball, there should be no crying in politics, either! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM

they’re there

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 10:02 AM

It’s only a tax to people who refuse to buy health insurance. So will any readers of this blog actually be affected by it? That’s highly unlikely.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

This is a red herring/straw man: 0bamessiahCare is a tax, by law, which is why the Senate needn’t concern itself with reconciliation anymore. That is not the outcome the Left was hoping for, is it?

How do you like dem apples, bayam? :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 10:08 AM

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Let’s not forget all the gems that are hidden in the law that no one is even aware of, like this one:

Nursing mothers will now get additional support, thanks to page 1239 of the health care bill that President Obama recently signed into law. It requires employers to provide “a place, other than a bathroom, that is shielded from view and free from intrusion from co-workers and the public, which may be used by an employee to express breast milk.” Only companies with less than 50 employees can claim it’s an undue hardship.

So if you have 51 employees and no women under the age of 50, you have to renovate your workplace for this. The hidden landmines in this monstrosity will further destroy the already comatose economy. Romney needs a Perot type chart that lists every single one of these hidden jewels.

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Didn’t take long for the GOP to jump on this.

Video: WH COS Struggles When Repeatedly Reminded Court Called ObamaCare A Tax

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 10:13 AM

… just as they’re is no crying in baseball, there should be no crying in politics, either! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM

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Yeah, why do you continue to ignore the culpability of the liberally-biased, prefer Democrat, prop-up-Øbama media? If politics were as fair as baseball, there would be serious Congressional inquiries into the fairness of the way the media has covered Ø since the run-up to the 2008 election; it (media) would have ignored charges of “racism” rather than folding like a cheap card table and we would not have been subjected, possibly, to the most ignorant, partisan, socialistic government in the past 30 years.
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If the media had covered Øbama like they covered Bush, there would a lot more fairness in the game of “politics.”
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Stupid analogy, really, missing lots of correlation that would justify such a comparison.

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Apparently, the WH has decided that it’s getting nowhere putting out clowns like Axelrod and Plouffe. Lew seems to be the guy they’re trying this week.

I just saw Wallace go through all the paces to highlight that Obamacare is a tax. Lew continued to insist that it’s a penalty and that it was upheld under one of several Congressional powers.

Total bullshite.

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Last night while watching Olympic trials on NBC I saw a news scroll that read something like, “Justice Dept. won’t press charges against Attorney General Eric Holder.” So there’s that!

Nikkia2112 on July 1, 2012 at 9:56 AM

And with that I’m sure NBC feels they’ve fulfilled their commitment to “inform their viewers.”

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Oh lord, Pelosi is saying how bad things were under George W Bush. SHE RAN CONGRESS WHEN IT WAS BAD including when we hit 10% unemployment.

He averaged 5% unemployment, if that’s bad then what’s this?

Wagthatdog on July 1, 2012 at 10:16 AM

I just saw Wallace go through all the paces to highlight that Obamacare is a tax. Lew continued to insist that it’s a penalty and that it was upheld under one of several Congressional powers.

Total bullshite.

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM

He did the same thing with Georgie S. on ABC. See link at 10:13.

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 10:18 AM

It’s only a tax to people who refuse to buy health insurance. So will any readers of this blog actually be affected by it? That’s highly unlikely.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

But it’s a drone missile straight at the heart of Obama’s ‘youth vote’ strategy if Team Romney makes the case.

Part of the wave of young voters who went hugely for Obama in 2008 when they were under 25 years of age are now in the 26-30 age group, which means even the ObamaCare law allowing them to remain under their parents’ health care plan no longer applies. They’re the ones most likely to opt out of carrying their own health coverage, and — thanks to Roberts’ ruling — it’s now plainly stated that they’re the age group that is going to be the most directly targeted by ObamaTax, in order to subsidize their parents and grandparents future health coverage needs.

That’s not something you’re going to hear much of from the big media, just as any polls showing the public hates the high court’s ruling is going to be buried under trivialities if the media an Team Obama can help it. Roberts’ ruling may still be too cute by half as far as it’s long-term strategy (I still think the Dems and the media will end up trying to spin Ginsburg’s concurring opinion on the mandate as the true majority decision, not Roberts’ strategy of converting it into a tax), but it does leave Team Romney a lot of openings to get to voting groups they may not have been expecting much out of, if they go on the offensive and force the issue into the public spotlight.

jon1979 on July 1, 2012 at 10:18 AM

@TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 10:10 AM

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I agree. There are lots of requirements in the ØbamaCareTax Bill (PPACA) that are costly. To ignore all the other taxes included in the act, other than the “mandate tax,” is massively ignorant. That was my point to U No Hoo.

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Too funny lsm to the gop governor why won’t you implement the law

Why wont dear leader follow the law

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Clarification, it never even hit 8% under Bush, it hit 10% when Obama/Democrats worked together to create all these jobs she’s apparently an expert in now.

Wagthatdog on July 1, 2012 at 10:21 AM

It’s only a tax to people who refuse to buy health insurance. So will any readers of this blog actually be affected by it? That’s highly unlikely.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

So what? Cigarette tax, booze tax, gas tax, tax on capital gains when capital assets are sold.

It’s a tax.

The outrage of Obamacare is that it has foreclosed genuine reform, solving none of the problems in the healtcare system. But it’s increased the control of government over healthcare.

Liberals: stay out of my bedroom, but don’t mind me as I intrude on your examination room and hospital room.

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2012 at 10:21 AM

He did the same thing with Georgie S. on ABC. See link at 10:13.

Flora Duh on July 1, 2012 at 10:18 AM

My loss. I had my TV muted during his segment. I can take only so much lying.

BuckeyeSam on July 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Dear leader started this precedent you dont have to follow the law

cmsinaz on July 1, 2012 at 10:24 AM

The more I hear Jindal, the more I’m convinced he’s the man for the #2 job.

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Jindal on MTP right now.

Philly on July 1, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Refuse to watch Fox when that pos Charles Lane is on.

Nexialist on July 1, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Fox News standards for who can sit on the discussion panels for the 6pm weekday and Sunday news shows seem to have gone in the toilet this year. They had Nicole Wallace last week, and yes, Lane is a weak offering.

Just another aspect of the post-George Soros watering down of Fox News.

slickwillie2001 on July 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM

I was just adding ammunition to your argument. :-)

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Romney/Jindal 2012

mike_NC9 on July 1, 2012 at 9:58 AM

That’s one option I like.

Wow is David Gregory an a$$hat.

Philly on July 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM

And so is Howard Dean.

Philly on July 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Jindal dodges the veep question. Not surprisingly.

Philly on July 1, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Democrats talking about creating jobs seems like Bill Clinton giving advise on how to be faithful.

If they knew how to create jobs why did unemployment get so high when they ran Congress?

Wagthatdog on July 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Not watching any tv because the whole thing still makes me sick (but not beaten) but thanks for the lol when you talked about “bless her heart”. My Grandma definitely meant, “What and idiot” when she said it, and we aren’t from the south.

Paddington on July 1, 2012 at 10:31 AM

It’s only a tax to people who refuse to buy health insurance. So will any readers of this blog actually be affected by it? That’s highly unlikely.

I don’t know why you would assume all republicans are rich, but whatever. How about the people whose insurance is considered “cadillac” by Obamacare standards? They have to pay a fee. How about the estimated 20 million families who will lose their coverage when their employer decides it’s cheaper to pay the penalty than to offer insurance? How about the people who will lose their jobs altogether because the cost of employing people has just gone through the roof? You really ought to read more.

Night Owl on July 1, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Unless you are a member of a greedy union, government or private, including retirees; they are all exempted from the Cadillac tax. Just another little goody given out to the greedy union thugs.

slickwillie2001 on July 1, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Yeah, why do you continue to ignore the culpability of the liberally-biased, prefer Democrat, prop-up-Øbama media? If politics were as fair as baseball, there would be serious Congressional inquiries into the fairness of the way the media has covered Ø since the run-up to the 2008 election; it (media) would have ignored charges of “racism” rather than folding like a cheap card table and we would not have been subjected, possibly, to the most ignorant, partisan, socialistic government in the past 30 years.
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If the media had covered Øbama like they covered Bush, there would a lot more fairness in the game of “politics.”
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Stupid analogy, really, missing lots of correlation that would justify such a comparison.

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2012 at 10:14 AM

A defense of weepiness/impotence/victimhood from someone who claims to be on the Right?

I can see that you haven’t been to your grief counselor yet! lol :)

Bizarro No. 1 on July 1, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Yikes! I mean “what an idiot”.

Paddington on July 1, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Wow is David Gregory an a$$hat.
Philly on July 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM

I hate that smug expression whenever he asks a gotcha question to our side. He’s not even fit to walk in Tim Russert’s shadow.

Jindal’s another one that’s not rattled easily. He’s more than made up for that poor performance several years ago. I see him as our southern version of Paul Ryan.

TxAnn56 on July 1, 2012 at 10:35 AM

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