The Roberts Court – The aftermath

posted at 8:31 am on June 30, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Having had a couple of days to absorb the tumultuous events of Thursday in the Supreme Court, it’s become clear to me that there was a lot more going on than a couple of laws standing or falling. Both of the cases I was watching closely went the way I predicted, but also the way I personally hoped they would not. The Obamacare decision has already been analyzed to death, with plenty of people passing judgement on it based on how they had hoped it would turn out. For my money, the best analysis was from Krauthammer.

But rewinding a few sentences, the word “personally” plays a very large role in my take on what these cases portend for the future and what they tell us about the state of the Supreme Court and the nation at large. The immediate outcry against Chief Justice John Roberts was massively high in volume and painful to behold. No matter how he ruled or what he wrote in Citizens United and Heller, (and too many more cases to name) it was all washed away in a moment. Roberts was pronounced everything from a traitor to a coward. And that’s about the point where I realized there was a bigger story underneath the story.

One point I have been trying to make – with an astonishing lack of success – for some time now is the growing sense of dread I feel over appointments to the Supreme Court. Electing the “right” president has become an even larger battle across the nation because of the crushing necessity to have them appoint the “right” kind of justices to the court. But what does that mean? For far too many of us it means justices who will vote the way we want them to, regardless of how many of us are actual constitutional scholars. We may love the constitution and trumpet about it during every political debate, but I would argue that darn few of us actually know the whole body of work involved in understanding and interpreting a more than two centuries old document in terms of how it applies to the complexities of 21st century life. The law is neither liberal nor conservative. It is neither Left nor Right. It’s just the law. Sometimes it goes the way we would like and sometimes it doesn’t.

This was brought clear to me by the less commented upon case of Thursday – that of Stolen Valor. I know how I wanted the ruling to go. The man at the center of the case disgusted me. My father was a decorated hero of WW2. Those who steal the adoration of the nation for such heroics on false pretenses disgust me and I want to see them punished. And yet, when I finished reading the court’s decision I understood and accepted it. I didn’t like it, mind you. But I get it.

And in the end, that’s what I’ve wanted to see from the Supreme Court but have largely failed to find for so long. I want justices who will, on occasion, surprise us. The system was designed in a way that there would be a final set of arbiters who will decide what is or is not constitutional. And we need to know that presidents will appoint people who will seek the truth regardless of which way the political winds are blowing. I want them to be able to reach a finding based on a vast body of knowledge even if it outrages an army of people whose formal education on the complexities of constitutional law probably doesn’t extend much past their 11th grade civics class.

And since I can already hear the screams erupting over that last paragraph, let me put the following question to you. Public polling on not only several aspects of Obamacare, but of many other high profile, controversial cases, frequently shows a closely divided nation. Tens of millions of Americans may agree with you on a particular issue, but tens of millions of others may think you’re nuts. Are you really so sure in your constitutional scholarship as to say that in each and every case you are right and they are a bunch of idiots? The level of puffery required for that sort of attitude defies description. Unfortunately we currently seem to have four liberals and three conservatives on the court who fail to meet that test. And it’s sad.

What I dream of is a court where the justices will approach each decision with open ears and eyes in addition to open mouths. Where they will be able to set aside their partisan, ideological starting points and listen to opinions which may initially seem repellant to them. And then debate those issues vigorously, leaving room to find a consensus which doesn’t result in one vote after another “along party lines.”

I think Justice Roberts did everyone a favor… most specifically the Supreme Court. But at the same time, the reaction to his decision will likely make presidents from both parties even more gun shy about nominating anyone who isn’t a hard line, doctrinaire partisan in the future. And that’s sad. We need the courts. And we need them to be free from the shackles of politics and ideology.


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Kind of like communism was good for the youth, religions, and the artists.

acyl72 on May 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Surprised there wasn’t a “donate button” at the bottom of her webpage.

can_con on May 22, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Congratulations class of 2013, you managed to graduate without learning critical thinking skills. You have been programmed to be compliant to the state from which all your needs and desires will come. Don’t bother looking for meaningful employment, as we have ruined any chance of you being independent and self determined. Everything you say and do can and will be used against you if you show any signs of resistance to the state. You will not enjoy any privacy. Welcome to Amerika.

tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM

I will gladly pay rob you Tuesday for the hamburger Death Panels you buy for me today.

—————— Joe Mengele Sebelius, Death Panels Kommandant.

viking01 on May 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Um..I just have to comment…pre-existing condition of acne?? WTF

BeachBum on May 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Great job kids, you’ll be excited to know being dependent on us is now easier than ever!

rightmind on May 22, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Sebelius touts ObamaCare as a boon to graduates instead of the war on the young it actually is

I’m tired of this BS meme about “robbing our childrens’ futures”. This is simple thievery, and we’re being stolen from NOW through inflation, and means nothing to most voters…they’re used to living in debt and the numbers are so staggering it simply doesn’t compute for them. Oh, and…they believe that the Wizards of Wall Street and the Gov’t surely know what they’re doing and will fix everything.

So, it doesn’t mean anything to enough people to make a difference at the polls. Besides, even if it did, how much more would the GOP get is into debt? They’ve done it before.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 22, 2013 at 8:52 PM

There’s an old joke that goes, “I want to live long enough to be a burden to my kids.”

Obamacare is going to guarantee I am, along with a lot of other people my age and older.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 8:54 PM

-Making it possible to stay on your parent’s health plan until you turn 26, giving you the flexibility to make choices about your future without worrying about where you’re going to get health insurance.

Not if your parents lose their employer provided insurance and get thrown on the exchanges.

Curtiss on May 22, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Nurse Diesel was born 60 years too late. She would have made a marvelous Nazi and Associate of Dr. Mengele. Pity…

/SPARC

glcinpdx on May 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Nurse Diesel was born 60 years too late. She would have made a marvelous Nazi and Associate of Dr. Mengele. Pity…

/SARC

glcinpdx on May 22, 2013 at 8:58 PM

I was at a party this past weekend, a rather daper young man of 80 years told a “funny but true” joke.

He asked at Social Security how he was going to get back all that he had paid in. The lady looked up his numbers, and told him with interest, it would take 32 more years to pay him back.

He looked me straight in the eye and said

“Those bastards aren’t getting a dime, I’m going to live to be 112.”

If you knew Don, you could believe that.

JusDreamin on May 22, 2013 at 9:05 PM

-Making it possible to stay on your parent’s health plan until you turn 26, giving you the flexibility to make choices about your future without worrying about where you’re going to get health insurance.

Of course you can get Plan B at age 15.

You can drive a car at 16.

You can vote at age 18.

You can legally drink at 21.

You can serve in the military.

But when it comes to healthcare, you can mooch off your parents until you’re old enough that you probably have a family of your own. Here’s to being a responsible adult or something.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Good if you are going to be a government worker.

Guess there might be some openings in the IRS soon…

ProfShadow on May 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM

I doubt any but the most serious and earnest of young Democrats are actually going to find their way to the HHS blog. I mean, how many here even knew there was one? I didn’t.

Even if they are aware of her statement, all Sebelius’ words won’t mean a thing when members of the class of 2013 can’t find work or can only find part-time work thanks to Obamacare or when they see differences in their paycheck because of Obamacare.

INC on May 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM

-Making it possible to stay on your parent’s health plan until you turn 26, giving you the flexibility to make choices about your future without worrying about where you’re going to get health insurance.

How many parents will subsidize their “kids” until they’re 26? I won’t.

Charlemagne on May 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Somehow, though, I can’t feel sorry for these college kids who, their first time voting, voted for Obama. And for those who voted for him twice. And let their liberal parents who voted Obama suffer just like the rest of us.

While I deplore this law and wish it be repealed, I’m going to enjoy seeing liberals suffer for the laws they wanted but didn’t always have to heed. Now, for the first time, liberals have to pay, too.

“Welcome to the party, pal!”

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM

This is one messed-up vicious cycle that the Obama administration is perpetuating here, and make no mistake: They are counting on the allure of seemingly “free” government benevolence to keep the charade going. Don’t go for it, graduates.

I have little faith in the young. They get their news from Colbert and Stewart and couldn’t tell you where Canada is on a map let alone intelligently explain international affairs. Many of them will happily sign up for that “free” healthcare.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Maybe she can explain why she broke the law & why she was extorting money from organization she was ‘lover’s….it will give her some practice before she has to do it before CONGRESS!

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 9:23 PM

How many parents will subsidize their “kids” until they’re 26? I won’t.

Charlemagne on May 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Well good for you! I knew that the financial support was cut off the minute I graduated from college. Of course, I had a job and wasn’t back in my childhood race car bed because of the lousy economy.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Somehow, though, I can’t feel sorry for these college kids who, their first time voting, voted for Obama.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Well, remember that campaign ad. They wanted their first time to be special.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Well, remember that campaign ad. They wanted their first time to be special.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Well, they gave it up to a psycho, and he’ll forever be like a stalker.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 9:30 PM

“You vill drink zee Obamakare, und you vill enchoy it! Ja?”

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 9:32 PM

What year did Sebelius run in the Kentucky Derby?

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Well, they gave it up to a psycho, and he’ll forever be like a stalker.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Yeah, it’s like a Lifetime Movie Network script.

Innocent happy young people graduate from college. Before you know it they’re enrolled in Obamacare, have to trade their cool phones in for Obamaphones because they don’t have any income. They turn on the television to see Mooch lecturing them to eat their vegetables. It is as if they’ve lost their real families and been adopted by the Obamas. Or more accurately they’ve been recruited into the radical left-wing party of which Obama is the cult leader.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

What year did Sebelius run in the Kentucky Derby?

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Hah! Trick question. Sebelius isn’t a mudder and got scratched before the race for fear that the track conditions would result in a broken leg. Thus eliminating any chance of stud fees.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Chickens coming home to roost.

.Left wing professorial nuts in colleges teach kids socialism.
.left wing indoctrinated college freaks elect Obama president.
.Obama appoints whackos like Sebelius and the IRS to propose and administer Obamacare and other lunatic government programs (government “problems” would be more apt.)–all over-funded, job-killing and cancerous.
.Left wing indoctrinated college freaks not only can’t afford Obamacare but they can’t get any jobs because of it.
.In a no-job market the only openings available for poorly trained, unqualified left wing indoctrinated college freaks is to become left wing professorial nuts themselves. Problem is-only one opening per 75,000 applicants.

MaiDee on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Of course, I had a job and wasn’t back in my childhood race car bed because of the lousy economy.

Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:24 PM

This. Only recently has it even been physically possible for me to go apartment shopping. And the state of the job market basically robs you of all career choice.

Seriously, you wanna be depressed to the core of your being? Try writing out a budget and realizing 9 hour shifts of putting up with flappy-mouthed rudesters for co’work’ers and being abused by dumb angry proles who want everything for free will BARELY provide enough money to exist on.

Would be a lot more money for me if it wasn’t being taken to feed the Democrat ‘minority’ voting blocs…

MelonCollie on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM

.In a no-job market the only openings available for poorly trained, unqualified left wing indoctrinated college freaks is to become left wing professorial nuts themselves. Problem is-only one opening per 75,000 applicants.

MaiDee on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Exactly. Even with all manner of Federal subsidies, there are only so many ‘jobs’ for overpaid wind-up puppets. The rest of us actually have to find real employment, which is currently about like panning for gold at your local public pool.

MelonCollie on May 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM

In a no-job market the only openings available for poorly trained, unqualified left wing indoctrinated college freaks is to become left wing professorial nuts themselves. Problem is-only one opening per 75,000 applicants.

MaiDee on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Nah, there are plenty of jobs for them. Obama wants his domestic national police force, equipped as well as the military. 3 hots and a cot along with all the “personal defense weapons” and “weapons of war” you can want with that new authoritah.

oryguncon on May 22, 2013 at 11:24 PM

-Requiring most insurance plans to cover proven preventive services—like birth control and certain cancer screenings—without you paying a penny.

Well, except for that really, really high insurance premium – you know, that one that you’re required to purchase. Oh sure, you probably wouldn’t have purchased insurance at such a young age – but if we’re going to offset the costs associated with insuring people with preexisting conditions – we need to you to pay your fair share. See? Doesn’t that feel good?

Sure hope you find a good-paying job… you’re going to need it!

Hill60 on May 23, 2013 at 12:04 AM

I still think that in this picture she looks like Dana Carvey as The Church Lady.

bugsy on May 23, 2013 at 5:42 AM

I don’t understand why there is never any pushback from the GOP or commentators on the stupid claim that insurance companies discriminate with higher premiums based on being a woman. What they are referring to is that insurance is typically higher for a woman of child bearing age than a similarly aged man. Well, duh that’s because women can get pregnant and men can’t and so they are at a higher risk of causing higher payouts. I know my six pregnancies cost our insurance company a lot more money than my husband did at the same age. To force a single male to pay the same rates as a single female during childbearing years is redistribution for the sake of politics/feminist agenda pure and simple.

txmomof6 on May 23, 2013 at 5:52 AM

I despise this Sebelius woman.

locomotivebreath1901 on May 23, 2013 at 6:12 AM

to the class of 2013:

good luck finding a job; and don’t forget to pay your obamacare ‘taxes’ or the IRS will be coming for you.

you voted for these socialists; welcome to the real world chumps!

burserker on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM

In charge of your medical records.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 3:16 PM