DOE Secretary Chu: The U.S. must make electric cars more affordable

posted at 7:01 pm on June 30, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Ugh, the never-ceasing folly of central planning in all of its hybridized forms! This particular fool’s errand actually started circulating a couple of weeks back, but I missed it in all the ObamaCare hubbub — and it drives me sufficiently bonkers that I need to just hash it out, so bear with me.

President Obama’s erstwhile goal of getting one million electric cars on the road by 2015 isn’t even potentially close to becoming a reality, but no matter: Obama’s Department of Energy is still leading the charge, reinvigorating the push for the creation and production of plug-in electric vehicles, comparable in cost to conventional vehicles, within ten years.

The “EV Everywhere Grand Challenge” was announced by President Obama in March and the Department of Energy is holding a series of workshops across the country to brainstorm and inspire the dramatic advances needed in batteries, power electronics, motors, lightweight materials and fast-charging infrastructure technology to make it a reality. …

Today electric vehicles with a range of 200 miles, such as the Tesla Roadster, are too expensive. Even the mass-market Nissan Leaf at $36,050 (not counting the $7,500 tax credit) has a payback period of seven years at $4 a gallon, according to Edmunds.com. …

Chu said the goal is to reduce cost so electric vehicles such as the Leaf can come down about $10,000 in price and there is a choice of EVs with a 100-mile range in the $23,000 price range …

Chu wants to see better lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles — he thinks they can improve their efficiency as much as threefold — and the ability to replace individual bad cells in a battery.

This is just ridiculous. The DOE would like for batteries to improve their efficiency threefold, in less than ten years — well, why not sixfold, in four years? Heck, why not demand batteries that run on happy thoughts and fairy dust, right now?

Like Secretary Chu, I most definitely believe that non-conventional vehicles are a real possibility, but you can’t force them to become a reality on an arbitrary timeline just because you wish it.

The American people aren’t sticking with ‘gas-guzzling’ conventional vehicles just to be stubborn and spiteful — it’s just that right now, there are no good substitutes available. If a company could come up with an alternative vehicle that really was more practical, efficient, and affordable, people would buy it. Nobody likes dropping money on a tank of gas — if people felt the benefits of a new type of car were worth the costs, they’d go for it. The incentive for the market to create viable substitutes for conventional vehicles is already there, but the juice has to worth the squeeze. Putting some made-up government timeline on it is only going to encourage rent-seeking and waste everybody’s time, resources, and tax dollars.

By the way, for a quick glimpse into the shortsightedness of the green-is-always-good mindset, here’s a money line from the above article:

Research will also look at reducing the need for rare earth elements or get rid of them altogether.

Ah yes, rare earth elements — otherwise known as REEs. Currently, REEs are used in the manufacture of such environmental pet projects as wind turbines and electric car batteries — but REEs are pretty environmentally costly to extract from the ground. The government has very strict regulations limiting the American REE mining industry, even though we have an abundant supply. So, from where do we obtain all of the REEs we need to produce these government-favored alternative energies? China, that’s where.

Uhm, isn’t President Obama always saying that one of the ostensible main purposes of this green-energy push is to decrease our energy-reliance on dubious foreign sources? What the what?

Yes, Department of Energy, we’d all love it if REEs became obsolete and we could magically produce more affordable vehicle substitutes — but just because you have the tax dollars, bureaucracy, and authority to try and force it about, doesn’t mean you should.


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DOE Secretary Chu: The U.S. must make electric cars more affordable

…H E Y!…we all needed to go to… H A R V A R D…to figure that out?

KOOLAID2 on June 30, 2012 at 9:43 PM

As long as the law is written just like the Obamacare mandate, Congress can make us buy them, no matter what they cost.

J.E. Dyer on June 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Here comes the Affordable Car Act, where we pay a penalty for not buying one. It’s not a tax, really.

Philly on June 30, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Well, it’s a tax when we have to decide if it’s constitutional for Congress to make all Americans buy electric cars, but it’s a mandate or a penalty when Congress has to talk to the voters (whichever polls better). A mandate for a cleaner planet because when we charge our cars from the electricity in our homes, that electricy has no polluting effects whatsoever. I mean, c’mon, do you see any pollution coming out of your house? And don’t worry that electricity prices will increase. And don’t worry about what to do when the power is out. The government will take care of everything.

talkingpoints on June 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM

I can see that Secretary Chu is high on the fact that electricity generated from windmill is on pace to keep up with electric car production

J_Crater on June 30, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Chu has his head so far up his anal orifice it’s a wonder that he can breathe. This is the same intellectual giant that didn’t no that DOE was also in charge of oil and other fossil fuels.

As for the REE’s, China has a massive pollution problem stemming from it’s mining of REE’s. So I guess it’s okay that pollution is occurring somewhere else, as long as we can have use of the refined materials.

Don’t have solar panels on the roof of your home? TAX
Don’t own a hybrid or all-electric? TAX
Don’t own a US built car? TAX
Have incandescent light bulbs in your home? TAX

As for the new-wave hybrids and all-electrics; yeah, I’ve heard all the bragging about how little is spent on gasoline. But these earth-hugging car owners never mention how much their home electric bill has gone up. Why is that?

GarandFan on June 30, 2012 at 10:12 PM

WEEELL – I believe Bill O’Reilly would agree with this premise!

williamg on June 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM

more affordable

Oh, here we go…”Obamacars”

Wonder if Roberts will rule that having to buy an electric car is a “tax”?

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Secretary Chu really has his head up his a$$ or is taking big money.

There are 2 obvious solutions to increasing fuel efficiency:

1) Use compressed natural gas (CNG). CNG gas dual fuel units have been around for years. The problem is getting it in the tank. CNG is not widely available, while you can compress it at home, good, quick home units are not commercially available. These are easily solved problems (as compared to inventing new battery technology)

2) Self driving cars. Google is investing in this technology. But the govt should grease the way with regulatory encouragement. Once we get self driving cars to be in the majority, we can decrease the weight by elimination of air bags, crush zones, safety cages which are now required to compensate for our distracted/DUI driving habits (have you ever seen anyone eating a bowl of cereal and driving?, let alone on a cell phone or texting.) Removal of “safety weight” will dramatically increase mileage and productivity. You could safely answer email on the way to work, kids could drive themselves to soccer practice/music lessons.

No encouragement in either of these areas from the DOE, someone has them bought !!

KenInIL on June 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Big Brother knows best.

Christian Conservative on June 30, 2012 at 11:06 PM

They said the same about healthcare. Get ready for more taxes.

MeatHeadinCA on June 30, 2012 at 11:12 PM

This is just ridiculous. The DOE would like for batteries to improve their efficiency threefold, in less than ten years — well, why not sixfold, in four years? Heck, why not demand batteries that run on happy thoughts and fairy dust, right now?

You need to realize that it was the US government that led this country to overcome unthinkable technical hurdles in order to put a man on the moon.
If private enterprise sees the government as playing a positive role in encouraging scientific collaboration on new battery technology, why would you have a problem with it?

Self driving cars. Google is investing in this technology. But the govt should grease the way with regulatory encouragement.

Good point. Nevada and some parts of silicon valley have passed laws to enable the testing of self-driving cars.
The technology has been successfully tested on highways, rural roads, and city streets. It’s amazing.

bayam on June 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Chu should be aware of three cliches which continually ring true 1 WISHING DOES NOT MAKE IT SO and 2 IF YOU BUILD A BETTER MOUSE TRAP THE WORLD WILL BEAT A PATH TO YOUR DOOR and 3 YOU CAN’T BEAT A DEAD HORSE.Doesn’t anyone at any of these Ivy League business schools realize this?

1 The reason there is no successor to the gasoline engine is that there is no successor to the gasoline engine–YET!!! This covers points 1 and 2.
2 The electric car is the sine qua non of the dead horse. There is NO future there.

MaiDee on June 30, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Self driving cars. Wait, let me pick mice-elf-up-off-ada-floor. Cool. Now where are we getting to with this chauffer?

And, how many days will it take, and who is liable when it crashes, and will I die in this new-fangled buggy?

Can’t wait.

Smartest folks in the room. Of that, there is no question. You first, moronchu.

Is it Nov, the 6th yet? This is going to be a smackdown and I want to know that these …. are off the payroll and out of the buildings, promptly.

Then I’d wait, eternally, for their dreams to take shape in the private sector. Well, eternally says it all doesn’t it?

Almost as good as learning 2 + 2 = 5

Here, take a dictation….
I (state your name) am an …

Riddance to all of these …

Ellipsis == nothing good.

mickytx on June 30, 2012 at 11:26 PM

And people in hell want ice water.
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A few thoughts:
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Forget the fuel economy and purchase price. When electrics can be built that don’t spontaneously catch fire, or turn into bricks when the battery runs down I’ll think about it.
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Ford has an 80 mpg diesel but as usual our government gets in the way.
http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/04/07/focus-econetic-fords-80-mpg-car/
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BTW Mr. Chu doesn’t own a car but he knows the driving habits of Americans. His wife drives a BMW.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/09/energy-sec-chu-doesnt-own-car-but-his-wife-drives-bmw-gas-guzzler/

diogenes on June 30, 2012 at 11:27 PM

You know what? I think now is the time to demand drug testing and mandatory psyche evaluations for all high level government employees and officials, elected and appointed. ALL OF THEM. After all, its a big job to run other peoples’ lives. We need to know that our rulers are in their best shape mentally and fit to rule over us. To say nothing of sticking their noses into our lives and making decisions for us.

Little Nell on June 30, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Little Nell on June 30, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Touche Little Nell

I can’t help but think sometime in the near future there may
be a way and a reason to say ‘epic’.

And have it mean what it means.

mickytx on June 30, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Electric cars were up and running right around the same time as gas powered cars. This should tell you all you need to know about the future potential of electric cars in the REAL WORLD. The size of the battery bank required and the resulting disposal waste would be enough to blow the tree-hugger crowd’s collective brains if they weren’t too busy crying about fracking.

2) Self driving cars. Google is investing in this technology. But the govt should grease the way with regulatory encouragement. Once we get self driving cars to be in the majority, we can decrease the weight by elimination of air bags, crush zones, safety cages which are now required to compensate for our distracted/DUI driving habits (have you ever seen anyone eating a bowl of cereal and driving?, let alone on a cell phone or texting.) Removal of “safety weight” will dramatically increase mileage and productivity. You could safely answer email on the way to work, kids could drive themselves to soccer practice/music lessons.

No encouragement in either of these areas from the DOE, someone has them bought !!

KenInIL

Reads like an article right out of a 1959 Popular Mechanics, no thanks. I prefer to feel alive.


Wind-
In my hair-
Shifting and drifting-
Mechanical music-
Adrenalin surge…

Well-weathered leather,
Hot metal and oil,
The scented country air.
Sunlight on chrome,
The blur of the landscape,
Every nerve aware.

8thAirForce on June 30, 2012 at 11:33 PM

As long as the law is written just like the Obamacare mandate, Congress can make us buy them, no matter what they cost.

J.E. Dyer on June 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Sure, they can tax the owners of 200 million gasoline burning cars to subsidize 1 million electric cars and make them affordable.

elfman on June 30, 2012 at 11:35 PM

One only has to recall, mindfully, ‘cash for clunkers’.

The wisdom of it all becomes very clear.

Here’s a stick. Go torment those hornets…

mickytx on June 30, 2012 at 11:42 PM

I’m not falling for this Chu Progressive Crapolafest.

These idjits want us on busses riding Public transit.

They hate that individuals have the ability to be mobile.

They also HATE citizens having guns.

In fact if it involves individual liberty they loathe it (unless it’s murdering your unborn child).

They want to turn everything into a friggin UTILITY run by lazy blank Union workers.

Hells Bells they are bleeping Communists that want us to be ———— Soviet Union!!!!!!

Sigh……..so tired of their sorry asses telling us what to do and the freaking lazy butted Americans letting them do it!!!!!

Get off your Obese buttocks you lazy Americans and vote these merely mouthed Girly men out of office!!!!!!

Disgusting!

PappyD61 on June 30, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Sorry for using the word “asses”.

Ugh!

PappyD61 on June 30, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Just assess a penalty to anyone who refuses to buy a shi_ Volt. Problem solved by our wonderful chief justice.

BillCarson on June 30, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Sure, let’s do it for the chillens.

I’m tax free when they start taxing the ‘little over poundage’.

SC Justice Roberts just laid it out there and Lord knows we
must write more laws.

The question is: will I be alive to see this BS stopped in its tracks?

Funny too. In the Paul case, it would seem the apple does fall a bit
farther from the tree. KY, you have a keeper there.

mickytx on July 1, 2012 at 12:02 AM

I leave you like minded folks with this, something about it and was posted on another thread hereabouts. Actually, two things, both from Winston Churchill. No, they don’t ring in my ears, they sing in my ears. No worries.

Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never–in nothing, great or small, large or petty–never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it,
but in the end, there it is.

Music to my soul.

mickytx on July 1, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Chu said the goal is to reduce cost so electric vehicles such as the Leaf can come down about $10,000 in price and there is a choice of EVs with a 100-mile range in the $23,000 price range …

Chu wants to see better lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles — he thinks they can improve their efficiency as much as threefold — and the ability to replace individual bad cells in a battery.

Step 1: Hold a pres conference and announce that pigs must fly

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Flying pigs

/Left

mankai on July 1, 2012 at 12:28 AM

DOE Secretary Chu: The U.S. must make a perpetual motion machine within ten years

petefrt on July 1, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Ford has an 80 mpg diesel but as usual our government gets in the way.
http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/04/07/focus-econetic-fords-80-mpg-car/

Not true, the problem with selling this car in the US is Ford’s lack of diesel manufacturing capacity in North America combined with the perceived lack of demand from US consumers.
The new generation of diesel engines run very clean with minimal emissions- you’re reviving the image of dirty diesel cars of the distant past.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 12:56 AM

No encouragement in either of these areas from the DOE, someone has them bought !!

KenInIL on June 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Gosh I wonder if the intent is to make us dependent on China?

You hit it right on the nose CNG. I mean Chu is also making Coal Power Plants that produce 60% of our power convert to Natural Gas. So it would much more efficient to just use CNG.

But no that would not help China and transfer American wealth to China.

This was very well written Article BTW. Kudos.

Steveangell on July 1, 2012 at 12:59 AM

God Bless Chu!

Yet another mini Nazi in the Obama mini Nazi Party.

As the world turns our freedoms erode.

Do not forgive them Father for they know? not what they do.

Sherman1864 on July 1, 2012 at 1:06 AM

The government has very strict regulations limiting the American REE mining industry, even though we have an abundant supply. So, from where do we obtain all of the REEs we need to produce these government-favored alternative energies? China, that’s where.

Why is Obama offshoring jobs to China?

strictnein on July 1, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Just mandate that everyone buy an electric car, or pay a penalty tax. Problem solved.

The Rogue Tomato on July 1, 2012 at 1:43 AM

If they could make a car that ran on farts, I’d be golden!

John the Libertarian on July 1, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Do something about it, pussies.

Stop pissing and moaning.

drowningpuppies on July 1, 2012 at 2:41 AM

Au contraire! I usually moan then piss. Sorry to disappoint you the guy with the sad sad name!

Winky winky!!

Sherman1864 on July 1, 2012 at 3:41 AM

Chu said the goal is to reduce cost so electric vehicles such as the Leaf can come down about $10,000 in price and there is a choice of EVs with a 100-mile range in the $23,000 price range …

Gee, who wouldn’t want to plonk down that kind of dough for a car that only goes 100 miles? Wow, sign me up.

A kid with a dream. Let’s follow THAT guy!

MJBrutus on July 1, 2012 at 4:17 AM

The U.S. must make electric cars more affordable

Well, for starters, how bouts cutting union pay and bennies?

BigAlSouth on July 1, 2012 at 5:25 AM

This whole Obama administration is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

sadatoni on July 1, 2012 at 5:42 AM

What I really want to see is the reaction an EV owner has when he is told what his replacement battery will cost.

jpmn on July 1, 2012 at 6:09 AM

Secretary Chu is upset; he waved is magic wand vociferously as the audience sat silently stunned… Note to audience: Marxists demand standing ovations…

aposematic on July 1, 2012 at 6:25 AM

Can’t republicans explain this? An electric car is plugged into a huge power plant and the dems are shutting those down.

I know Chu is brilliantly intelligent, but he is an idiot political hack

billypaintbrush on July 1, 2012 at 6:58 AM

On one hand the EPA is running around shutting down electric generating plants. On the other the DOE is saying we “must” build cheaper electric cars. Either way, the government can now force us to buy them, since obamacare was upheld. Personally, I think I’m gonna go live in a cave someplace and see how long it takes the gov’t to find me.

Mean Granny on July 1, 2012 at 7:24 AM

Seldom have I ever seen such a fool as Chu. I used to think this man was deceitful. Now I have decided Sec. Chu is just stupid. Chu realy thinks electricity is free. And at the same time does everything he can to increase the cost to produce electricty.

TomLawler on July 1, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Um, Mr. Chu, where do you think electricity comes from?

rjh on July 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM

And don’t worry about what to do when the power is out. The government will take care of everything.
talkingpoints on June 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Can we get some reports on how the EV-Huggers in DC are getting along with their blackout ??
/.

CaveatEmpty on July 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Um, the “electric roadster with a range of 200 miles” that burned to the ground 5 miles from the Motor Trend test facility?

PJ Emeritus on July 1, 2012 at 10:05 AM

And put little wind turbines on top each one so they run perpetually, without having to be plugged into one of those pesky, evil coal energy generation plants.

It is truly disheartening the depths that purported scholarship has sunk. We have reached the point where intelligent thought, inquiry and reasoning ability are nil. Doctrinaire ideology is all consuming.

ironked on July 1, 2012 at 10:17 AM

So while America will be regulated and forced into making electric cars more affordable, Obutthead is doing everything in his power and beyond his authority to make electricity UNaffordable, and provide way less of it–that’s leftisproglibturd policy at its finest!

stukinIL4now on July 1, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Hilter made the Volkswagon and 0bama does not want to miss a bullet point on our way to fascism.

The tax is buying the overpriced, very flammable electric/hybrid. The penalty is paying the government $2000/year if you don’t.

Thanks Roberts.

jukin3 on July 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM

I must have missed that part of the Constitution that says the gov’t must “make electric cars more affordable”

shanimal on July 1, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Just where do they think all this electricity to run the cars is going to come from. The infrastructure is already tottering in places such as California and putting an extra strain on the plants is not going to work. Especially since the night time is when both the plants need to slow down some, and the night is when the cars need the electricity to charge.

How is cutting the ability of states like Texas to provide electric power going to help sell electric cars?

JackBurtonJr on July 1, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Make electric cars more affordable?

Translation-Make gas power cars more expensive through legislation ie tax policy, safety and environmental BS, you name it. Shazam electric cars become “affordable”.

bgibbs1000 on July 1, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Affordable? Try making them noncombustible. Who needs their garage and or house burned down because the electic cars are firebombs? And yeah, my electric bill is much higher than my gas bill. Yet, they want me to increase it by lord knows how much? I’m sick about constantly being told that increasing costs saves money. For who?

Blake on July 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Um, Mr. Chu, where do you think electricity comes from?

rjh on July 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Government.

bgibbs1000 on July 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Hell just mandate everyone use a Star Trek type tranporter to get around that works only off of solar power. Tax those who don’t. There problem solved.

bgibbs1000 on July 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM

What he really means is: “We must make gasoline powered cars more expensive.”.

zmdavid on July 1, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Um, Mr. Chu, where do you think electricity comes from?

rjh

0bama gots a stash?

8thAirForce on July 1, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Now that the government knows it can penalize… er tax us for not doing what we are told, I expect soon a penalty… I mean tax for not buying an EV. The list of potential penalizing… er taxing opportunities has to have DC giggling uncontrollably.

Don’t know about you, but any sentence that links DC with ‘uncontrolablely’ scares the alimentary canal waste product out of me.

WestTexasBirdDog on July 1, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Ok look mr boy genius Chu. What is the hurry on this? The market will make or break this. Forcing it on us will not work. Besides you now have a reputation for misappropriating hundreds of billions of dollars of our tax money and throwing it down a rat hole. As they say in the physics world, a not so elegant solution. Stick to academics boson boy.

jake49 on July 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM

“The American people aren’t sticking with ‘gas-guzzling’ conventional vehicles just to be stubborn and spiteful…”

Uhm, pardon me. Not necessarily true in all cases.

I’ll not give up my frickin V8 till pull the steering from my cold dead hands.

Period.

Archimedes on July 1, 2012 at 12:31 PM

I’ve already got a golf cart. I’m golden with these government guys.

trigon on July 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM

You need to realize that it was the US government that led this country to overcome unthinkable technical hurdles in order to put a man on the moon.bayam on June 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM

If that’s true why did your messiah effectively put NASA out of business?? Oh wait–I forgot–he’s transformed them into cheerleaders for nonexistent scientific progress in muslim countries.

If private enterprise sees the government as playing a positive role in encouraging scientific collaboration on new battery technology,ba why would you have a problem with it? bayam on June 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM

What do you consider gov’t's positive role??? Handing out hundreds of billions in taxpayer dollars to crony companies that fold up like a cheap suit or ship jobs/factories overseas like we saw happen in Obama’s green energy fiasco??

Talon29 on July 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Not true, the problem with selling this car in the US is Ford’s lack of diesel manufacturing capacity in North America combined with the perceived lack of demand from US consumers.bayam on July 1, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Gee, is this another wonderful example of gov’t's playing a positive role?? Think lack of manufacturing capacity has a lot to do with the massive red tape, EPA regs/fines, OSHA regs/fines and the threat of lawsuits by the treehuggers?? Add in Ford having to grease the UAW’s greedy paws. I tell you, I can’t understand why US car manufacturers have a tough time against foreign manufacturers.

Talon29 on July 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I mean, c’mon, do you see any pollution coming out of your house?

talkingpoints on June 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Why yes, that is carbon dioxide your family members are exhaling.
Please explain why you have three offspring. /lib

deptofredundancydept on July 1, 2012 at 1:40 PM

7 years to break even at $4 a gallon – longer if gas prices remain under $4. Not to worry – Chu wants our gasoline prices to be more in line with European prices.
Batteries aren’t the answer. Reliance on batteries with REE = reliance on foreign sourcing. Not good. From an environmental standpoint – the carbon footprint just to make a battery is huge, plus you’d think that the mining associated with getting the REE would be a turn-off to the greenies.
Five to six years into your vehicle ownership, you’d better damn well have saved enough money to replace those batteries. You’re not going to your local AutoZone to get them either. Think $6,000 to replace ‘em at your dealership.
Electric isn’t the answer. Not short-term or long-term. Hydrogen is plausible, and I know BMW has been working on development – but it’s hard to say how much one would cost, since they’ve been developing them for their 7 series limousines.

Hill60 on July 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM

What I really want to see is the reaction an EV owner has when he is told what his replacement battery will cost.

jpmn on July 1, 2012 at 6:09 AM

That does not matter. See you have a grave misunderstanding of people who drop $40k for a electric car. They either lease for 2 years, or sell/trade every 3/4 years. In my view a few tend to drive the majority of car swaps. These people are actually worse for the enviro using all kinds of resources to drive ‘new’ every ‘two’.

THEY ARE NOT LIKE working stiff like me and you (my car is 15 years old, and still running fine at 32mpg thanks) who keep cars far longer than most.

orbitalair on July 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM

It’s really going to be fun looking at your gov’t-mandated electric lemon in your garage while wondering what to do with your allocated 9 hours of electric service that won’t even turn over your clothes dryer.

hillbillyjim on July 1, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Hmmm…I wonder what the millions without power for up to a week think about this?

rocker98 on July 1, 2012 at 2:04 PM

In an old job, we used to have a director (not for terribly long thankfully) that liked to do something similar in that she would take what she wanted to see and make it a statement of fact. Stuff like, “we WILL make all our key metrics this month”. I guess if it was said with enough authority she thought it might become true. The reactions it would get was a bunch of sarcastic “Wow that’s great! I thought we were going to have to work really hard to have a chance but I guess it is in the bag!” type stuff.

stldave on July 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Maybe Mr Chu needs to leave his government job and go to work dsigning and building his pipe dreams in the private sector.

jack herman on July 1, 2012 at 2:19 PM

We should all drive TaxMobiles on Toll Roads.

SparkPlug on July 1, 2012 at 2:29 PM

How about a high speed TaxTrain? Anyone think of that.

Maybe TaxPlanes and TaxJets would work.

SparkPlug on July 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM

I think they have interrupted the technology that was happening before the Volt.

People were coming to like some of the hybrid vehicles, because they liked the gas mileage.

But the same people cannot buy a single passenger vehicle for a person that is 5 feet tall, and expect to stuff the whole family in. How will everyone else get there if you drive only yourself in your Leaf or your FIT? Does everyone in the family need their own? These vehicles do not fit any combination of kids car seats, or make a mom feel safe.

I would think that making a mini van that was a hybrid and could carry 6 people would be the national priority. I am suspicious that the powers that be are singles, and anti family and anti child. When ever I hear about kids taking up vital Foot Prints, I am suspicious.

What they really should do is stop telling the manufacturers what mileage their fleet has to average, and let consumers pick which mileage vehicles we want. Consumers will err on the side of saving money on gas, and on safety. They would like a car that doesn’t cost a lot to repair, and doesn’t break down. These would be much more consumer friendly things for U.S. vehicle manufacturers to concentrate on. How about we don’t have to take out the engine to fix something hidden underneath???? How about cars that had easy repairs, a numbskull could do them at home? I would buy that car. Pluck out the broken unit, Plug in the new one. I spent $800 to fix the driver side door because of a faulty motor to open and close the window. Mr. Chu, I heard doesn’t/didn’t even own a car. I wonder how many kids he drives to soccer/lacrosse/hockey on the dc Metro.

Fleuries on July 1, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Maybe Mr Chu needs to leave his government job and go to work dsigning and building his pipe dreams in the private sector.

jack herman on July 1, 2012 at 2:19 PM

I’ve had the great satisfaction of seeing first hand the absolute shock when both ex government and academia types first learn that taking a job in the private sector means that they actually have to be productive. I will never forget the look of total disbelief on an ex university professors face upon being told that no one gave a sh!t how many letters he put after his name and all we were interested in was results.

Oldnuke on July 1, 2012 at 3:50 PM

1) Use compressed natural gas (CNG).

2) Self driving cars.

No encouragement in either of these areas from the DOE, someone has them bought !!

KenInIL on June 30, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Hubby’s a fan of SkyTran.

Fallon on July 1, 2012 at 3:53 PM

As the Obowma administration shuts down coal fired power plants in the east, how are more electric cars going to be recharged without brownouts or blackouts?

These people really are insane or live in a fantasy world.

dthorny on July 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM

The silver lining to this Obama character is he is getting the thinkers riled up and these are the people that will unseat this fraud and his administration. One RHINO from Maine cast the deciding vote for the health bill. ONE! One Supreme Court Judge cast the deciding vote, again, ONE. With a population that depends on the government for living at all will make this election very tough. There are 126 welfare programs currently active within our government (Google it) and there is also a federal entitlement listing that’s crammed full of recipients of checks from the government. (http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/index.shtml) See if you can read them out loud without laughing I’ve tried but I can’t yet. Give it a try.

mixplix on July 1, 2012 at 4:04 PM

What he really means is: “We must make gasoline powered cars more expensiveIllegal.”.

zmdavid on July 1, 2012 at 11:52 AM

dthorny on July 1, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Wind-
In my hair-
Shifting and drifting-
Mechanical music-
Adrenalin surge…

Well-weathered leather,
Hot metal and oil,
The scented country air.
Sunlight on chrome,
The blur of the landscape,
Every nerve aware.

8thAirForce on June 30, 2012 at 11:33 PM

FYI, I own a 5 speed 2-seater which I enjoy driving– but not commuting bumper to bumper. However there are those nights I would like to just keep my eyes closed and have my car take me home.

KenInIL on July 1, 2012 at 4:55 PM

As long as the law is written just like the Obamacare mandate, Congress can make us buy them, no matter what they cost.

J.E. Dyer on June 30, 2012 at 9:49 PM

No, no, no. They can tax us $50,000 if we don’t buy them.

Under the SC ruling, when a highwayman says “your money or your life,” no force is involved! It’s just a very high tax on living !!

Fred 2 on July 1, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Ahhh, Chu ~ as you know, a cheap lemon is still a lemon.

TheClearRiver on July 1, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Now that DC is sitting around in the dark due to the storm damage, wonder where Chu will get his vehicle charged. Is the metro still running? It’s supposed to be hot there, too, maybe the population will get used to no AC when the EPA shuts down some more power plants. See, folks, this is what you get when libs are in charge of your lives.

Kissmygrits on July 1, 2012 at 6:43 PM

FYI, I own a 5 speed 2-seater which I enjoy driving– but not commuting bumper to bumper. However there are those nights I would like to just keep my eyes closed and have my car take me home.

KenInIL

Fair enough.

How do you see these auto-pilot drone cars coexisting on the road with unpredictable human drones?

8thAirForce on July 1, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Some people watch Logan’s Run with the understanding that it’s a cautionary tale and/or pure fantasy.

Others, like Chu and his boss, watch it and think it’s a blueprint for present-day America.

jangle12 on July 1, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Does anybody remember that Chu doesn’t even drive a car?

Electric cars are not going to sell until a) they have a range of at least 350 miles, b)they can be recharged in 10 minutes or less, and c)they are priced close to gasoline drive cars. This won’t happen for another 20 years, so Chu’s and Obama’s pipe dream of one million electric cars by 2015 is just that, a dream.

Government Motors may go broke a second time if it keeps pushing this green energy wet dream Chevy Volt, a car that no one wants. An even more stupid vehicle is the Nissan Leaf that has no backup from its sole energy source, batteries that run out of electricty far quicker than anyone would like. Does Nissan sell towing insurance to get your Leaf back home after it has crapped out on the Freeway 10 miles from home?

I think electric cars are in our future. Just not the ones being pushed by two of the most incompetant ignoramuses like Obama and Chu.

RUDYJ on July 1, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Some people watch Logan’s Run with the understanding that it’s a cautionary tale and/or pure fantasy.

Others, like Chu and his boss, watch it and think it’s a blueprint for present-day America.

jangle12 on July 1, 2012 at 9:22 PM

I pray that every liberal and/or democrat voter goes to Carousel to ReNew…every.single.day.

tom daschle concerned on July 1, 2012 at 10:25 PM

See what happens when you have a bunch of “book smart common sense dumb” people running the country?
Time to get the children OUT of the WH and put ADULTS back in charge.

p51d007 on July 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Not true, the problem with selling this car in the US is Ford’s lack of diesel manufacturing capacity in North America combined with the perceived lack of demand from US consumers.
The new generation of diesel engines run very clean with minimal emissions- you’re reviving the image of dirty diesel cars of the distant past.

bayam on July 1, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Import taxes probably as well. Ford has killed the Ranger line in the US/Canada and is telling people to buy a F150. All while the rest of the world, including Mexico gets a new Ranger quad cab with diesel engine options. They say the light truck market is dead here yet ignore that it might be because they’ve offered nothing new in that area for over 10 years.

oryguncon on July 2, 2012 at 12:52 AM

This whole Obama administration is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

sadatoni on July 1, 2012 at 5:42 AM

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I thought this was a possibility. Now I know there is a name for it. Thanks. :-)

diogenes on July 2, 2012 at 7:22 AM

Um, Mr. Chu, where do you think electricity comes from?

rjh on July 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Mr Chu is a sterling example of the principle that an idiot with a Nobel Prize is still an idiot.

SubmarineDoc on July 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Get a grip, Chu. (gesundheit) It no longer matters whether the toasters-on-wheels are affordable. After last week your agency can merely mandate us to buy electric cars. And then tax/penalize us if we don’t. BTW, not sure why all the hair-splitting over whether it’s labeled a tax or a penalty. On our end the result is the same. The government says “Buy an environmentally-unsound electric car or you will be ‘penalized’” How does that sound better than taxed? Can it really be that the WH is trying to save face over raising a little bitty $400 billion tax? Maybe we should start acting as stupid as they assume we are. Maybe that’s the only way to survive hereout.

curved space on July 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM

What do we expect from a life long strap hanging bureaucrat? We don’t need Chu, a recording of Chu will do.

StevC on July 2, 2012 at 5:53 PM

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rjl1999 on October 10, 2012 at 5:42 PM

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