Quotes of the day

posted at 8:53 pm on June 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

However painful it was to read the headline “Obamacare Stands” on Drudge yesterday, Chief Justice Roberts made the right call.

Roberts’s opinion, far from being an act of cowardice or betrayal, is true to the tradition of the early Republic, when the Supreme Court exercised the power of judicial review to strike down federal statutes only very rarely…

There is a larger point. If the only way Americans can defend their liberties is to hide behind the verbiage of a Supreme Court opinion, it’s already too late for freedom here.

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Conservatives who are trying to salvage a little “hope and change” from Chief Justice John Roberts’s disastrous ruling in the Obamacare case yesterday argue that the limits the Court placed on the Commerce Clause and the power of the federal government vis à vis the states are victories for conservatives in the long run. But in this case, the short run is the long run: Obamacare will change our society forever–and not for the better.

Liberals are celebrating, not just because Barack Obama’s presidency is no longer just a waste of time, but also because they believe that people will never reject entitlements once they have them. Evidence from around the world proves them right.

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This country is hopelessly split along ideological lines, and it seems impossible for either side to gain any lasting advantage over the other. But maybe Roberts has managed to do precisely that. By nominally endorsing an overwhelmingly unpopular bill that is in major trouble anyway, he has created the political space needed to strike directly at the heart of liberal legal theory without inflaming the Democrats.

This, by the way, is exactly what the Warren Court of the 1950s and 1960s failed to do. Insufficiently concerned about political fallout, the liberals on that court plunged ahead with leftist policymaking from the bench. As a consequence, conservatives grew acutely aware of the dangers inherent to liberal judicial activism, organized politically to fight back, and thus was ultimately born the Rehnquist Court, which rolled back many of the excesses of the Warren years.

But how do conservatives continue their judicial project without similarly inflamming the left and stalling their own agenda in its tracks? Well, just maybe Chief Justice John Roberts showed the way yesterday. It’s all about taking opportunities as they present themselves, not over-reaching, and playing the long game.

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[I]f the underlying mandate is otherwise unconstitutional, as Roberts concluded, how does adding a penalty make it okay? Under this precedent, Congress could theoretically mandate anything it wants and slap on a nominal penalty and defend it in Court as a tax after the fact. To use a popular example, the government can now still force you to purchase broccoli, as long as the punishment is a fine rather than imprisonment…

In a broader sense, this case was testing the assumption that the Supreme Court would never invalidate a major act of Congress. Even if Roberts had only agreed to strike down the mandate, it would have sent a powerful message that the Supreme Court is willing to protect the Constitution from further encroachments. But I fear when all is said and done, after this case, future lawmakers will still feel confident in the assumption that they can pass whatever they want, and if the legislation is major enough, the Supreme Court will find some sort of excuse to uphold it.

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Some will suggest that this is no victory at all, given the Court’s ruling that the money one must pay for failing to obtain insurance can be supported as a use of Congress’s taxing power. However, by confining within the taxing power the ability of Congress to adopt such schemes, the Court has greatly limited Congress’s ability and political appetite to attempt them in the future…

Another thing to note is that Chief Justice Roberts’s opinion on the taxing power is limited. He noted that it could not be considered punitive because the amount citizens are required to pay for not having insurance is far less than they would have to pay to obtain insurance. He strongly suggests that, if Congress were to require citizens to pay an amount greater than the costs of insurance, that would constitute a penalty, and thus would be unconstitutional.

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I would find this perspective [that Roberts's opinion was a victory for smaller government] considerably more persuasive if I could envision how, exactly, this war of “slow constriction” is supposed to play out. Does anyone really believe that a Roberts-led Court is likely to revisit the constitutionality of the major post-New Deal social programs? That it’s going to overturn child labor laws and minimum wage laws, or shutter regulatory agencies? Whatever precedent was set yesterday, that kind of genuine counter-revolution seems highly unlikely…

In an intellectual sense, the logic of the health care mandate may indeed have been “pregnant with rampant statism,” as Will puts it. But in terms of practical politics, the health care bill was itself the most statist act that’s likely to pass Congress over the next decade at least, and maybe in John Roberts’ lifetime. And by upholding it, Roberts handed liberals a victory in the scope-of-government war that matters most to them, while at worst setting them up to lose some less important skirmishes somewhere down the road.

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In his remarkable health care opinion Thursday, the chief justice of the Supreme Court restrained the power of his own institution. He decided not to use judicial power to overrule the democratic process. He decided not to provoke a potential institutional crisis. Granted, he had to imagine a law slightly different than the one that was passed in order to get the result he wanted, but Roberts’s decision still represents a moment of, if I can say so, Burkean minimalism and self-control…

And here’s the biggest gift that Roberts gave to the nation: By restraining the power of the court to shape health care policy, he opened up space for the rest of us to shape that policy through the political process. By modestly refraining from rewriting health care laws himself, he has given voters and politicians more room to be audacious.

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What did Roberts get? Institutional respect for the Court from people who have no respect for the Courts unless they win? That’s not a prize one can count on to last long. If you think liberals we say, “we’ll let it slide next time we lose a 5-4 decision and promise to never again push the boundaries of the Commerce Clause because Roberts gave us ObamaCare” you’ve missed the last 80 or 90 years of liberalism and the courts. Maybe I missed something but the New Deal and Warren courts* were happy to overturn decades and decades of law and never felt the need to “throw a bone” to conservatives (or people who thought the words of the Constitution had some set meanings).

In fact, Roberts has actually lost something very important (if this theory is right)…he’s shown that with enough bullying and threats against the legitimacy of his Court, he’ll give in.

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There are probably five votes to uproot the entire campaign finance system, a decision that would make Citizens United look like small fry. And there are probably five votes to invalidate Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act.

I don’t think invalidating the ACA would have affected the court’s legitimacy that much, at least outside of liberals in the legal academy. But taken as a whole, this series of decisions really might have irrevocably hurt the court’s reputation for independence.

But Roberts has something of an ace up his sleeve now. Accusations of hyper-partisanship are much harder to make against him, and he has more freedom to move on these issues.

All told, it is easier for the conservative wing of the court to make some significant rulings in some other policy areas.

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I don’t know what’s in Roberts’s heart, but no court watcher I’ve heard from puts much weight on the idea that Roberts did anything other than reason backward from the result he wanted in order to buy respect from the court’s critics at the expense of his own beliefs…

That so few people seem to care augurs poorly for the rule of law and the auspices of our republic.

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What did Roberts get? Institutional respect for the Court from people who have no respect for the Courts unless they win? That’s not a prize one can count on to last long. If you think liberals we say, “we’ll let it slide next time we lose a 5-4 decision and promise to never again push the boundaries of the Commerce Clause because Roberts gave us ObamaCare” you’ve missed the last 80 or 90 years of liberalism and the courts. Maybe I missed something but the New Deal and Warren courts* were happy to overturn decades and decades of law and never felt the need to “throw a bone” to conservatives (or people who thought the words of the Constitution had some set meanings).

In fact, Roberts has actually lost something very important (if this theory is right)…he’s shown that with enough bullying and threats against the legitimacy of his Court, he’ll give in.

Bullseye.

Mitch Rapp on June 29, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Again, not funny you misogynist whore.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:45 PM

…And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free– if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained–we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!

From kingjester’s blog post today, Et Tu, Roberts?

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Another quote of the day:

“Nancy Pelosi is a dingbat.” – Sarah Palin on Hannity.

LOL

Philly on June 29, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Philly:Pelosium said this too!
===============================

Pelosium Speaks!

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, speaking on health care law, says

Sen. Ted Kennedy’s dream has become reality, says he can now rest in peace

- broadcast

Submitted 2 mins ago by editor

canopfor on June 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Again, not funny you misogynist whore.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Dang…
Tough crowd..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on June 29, 2012 at 9:41 PM

but one has to wonder if this is the entire plan all along… look at how the left claimed that justices shouldn’t be granted life time appointments, when they thought that Ocare would go down. Now we have the right asking the same questions after the ruling. I still believe that the court must not be influenced by the governing body at the time, but I must admit, I didn’t think that Roberts would be the one to throw the monkey wrench into the wheels of the court.

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

And I might add, the bureaucrats are always too chickenshit to approach/counsel/spank the losers who are causing problems.

arnold ziffel on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Exactly.

Who is more a burden on society, the person who sponges their living from the taxpayer or the person who refuses to pay taxes?

Which one of those people does the government use force on?

The government uses force on the productive person because the government values losers, dependents who willingly turn over power to the government. The government pays people to give their power to it. They hate you if you are productive, they like you if you are a parasite.

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 9:47 PM

What he did is violate his oath to the Constitution and Bill of Rights by refusing to protect the individual rights of the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Well said.

Only it was the majority of Americans forced to take it and like it by the minority—pols and judges.

arnold ziffel on June 29, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Here’s my question for those of you who are wired in to the interwebs like Mr. Universe: What did Roberts (supposedly or not) think that the demonratholes and TFGRP would do to punish the SCOTUS?

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:47 PM

HOW DARE THEY?

Don’t these people realize they’re supposed to running around like their hair’s on fire screaming “we’re doomed, we’re doomed?”

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Isn’t that what Romney’s going to do next week?

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

EG, its ok, I’m looking for levity :)

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Senate 51 votes, keep House, Romney President.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Maybe Dubya is an idiot.

SagebrushPuppet on June 29, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Maybe????

bw222 on June 29, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Here’s my question for those of you who are wired in to the interwebs like Mr. Universe: What did Roberts (supposedly or not) think that the demonratholes and TFGRP would do to punish the SCOTUS?

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:47 PM

No parties and we’ll write bad stuff about you and make fun of your kids clothes—-oh wait they already did that John.

I’m thinking he liked Barry’s rough talk at the state of the union speech.

arnold ziffel on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

EG, its ok, I’m looking for levity :)

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

:)

Bishop gets into these moods when he isn’t First..

/

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

This has got to be a typo……(sarc)!

Chief Justice Spotted Carousing With Liberals

http://themoderatevoice.com/151243/chief-justice-spotted-carousing-with-liberals/

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Well, can you think of someone who has more impact this year?

TXMomof3 on June 29, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I’m simply not looking forward to it.

El_Terrible on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Could always look upon it as something to place on your dart board for extra fun.

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

If John Roberts had a mole it would look like Obama.

It works with any definition of mole except the chemical one.

SparkPlug on June 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM

If Obama had a son..
He would look like John Roberts.

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Probably. He said Tryvon Martin but I think he meant John Roberts.

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Senate 51 votes, keep House, Romney President.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 9:50 PM

That is all we can hope for my friend, all we can hope for. I have to say, similar to RC, I’m having a hard time understanding why I just put myself through sleep deprivation to develop new and better ways to exterminate rodents and cockroaches for the last month?

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Dang…
Tough crowd..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Something blew on one of my boats today and I’m in a bad mood, and my little daughter threw up because she hooked a Walleye through the eye and it popped out when we de-hooked; she’ll be scarred for life.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, speaking on health care law, says

Sen. Ted Kennedy’s dream has become reality, says he can now rest in peace

canopfor on June 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM

WBhere Ted Kennedy is, there is no rest.

bw222 on June 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

:)

Bishop gets into these moods when he isn’t First..

/

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Well then, by decree I deem bishop first, and those that don’t like it can take it up with the SC :)

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

I didn’t think that Roberts would be the one to throw the monkey wrench into the wheels of the court.

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

I’m not surprised, he was the same guy that supported the Kelo verses City of New London ruling that was also in favor of corruption and cronyism. Roberts is on the take, IMO, or is at least a corporatist who places corporate interests above individual rights.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

One thing this debacle has done for me is given me a whole new respect for Justice Kennedy. Even though he’s been a swing vote several times, he’s always said that the tie goes to freedom. He voted for freedom yesterday and when push came to shove, his conservative core didn’t betray him or us.

TxAnn56 on June 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

You think that’s his real name, Elijah Sweete? It kind of has a ring to it.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Dang…
Tough crowd..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Electrongod:Ya,especially when your behind a 30 ton Bunker Door,
Hahahahahaha,ahem….(kidding Bish)!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Something blew on one of my boats today

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

The starboard engine? I hate it when that happens.

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 9:56 PM

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Good to see you, I will probably not be commenting much if at all until a bit later, just lurking. ; )

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Well then, by decree I deem bishop first, and those that don’t like it can take it up with the SC :)

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Bishops inactivity to be first will be punished..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM

What he did is violate his oath to the Constitution and Bill of Rights by refusing to protect the individual rights of the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Actually violation of his oath had more to do with the fact that the Constitution does not enumerate the power to Congress that we see in Obamacare. If the chief justice thinks that the power to tax means Congress can do anything in the name of a tax than we are totally f**ked.

CW on June 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

You think that’s his real name, Elijah Sweete? It kind of has a ring to it.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Bishop:

That smacks of a confused BifDis,from a prior thread!
(sarc):)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Something blew on one of my boats today and I’m in a bad mood, and my little daughter threw up because she hooked a Walleye through the eye and it popped out when we de-hooked; she’ll be scarred for life.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Boating on a National Work Day…

You should be ashamed admitting that…
/

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:59 PM

There is a larger point. If the only way Americans can defend their liberties is to hide behind the verbiage of a Supreme Court opinion, it’s already too late for freedom here.

Bullsh1t.

Look, we’re not trying to hide behind the SC. We’re already fighting against an anti-Constitution Congress and an anti-Constitution President – it’s not too much to ask that the SC have a care for what is and isn’t constitutional (in fact, it’s their job description, ffs).

Not asking the SC to save us, just to reliably do their f@#$ing job; we can already count on almost half of them to realiably *not* do that job, excuse the hell out of us if we get a bit perturbed to find that all three of the branches of government are run amok without a care for what is or isn’t constitutional.

Midas on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

No. The assholian 75hp on the pontoon decided to seize, and when I say seize I mean it locked up tighter than Chris Matthew’s lips on Barky’s ****. In the middle of the lake, no less. Let me tell you how happy I was, better yet let the other people who live on the lake tell you because I’m sure every one of them heard me.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Yeah, that might be the case, I was heartened to see how Kennedy felt about the whole deal though.

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Isn’t that what Romney’s going to do next week?

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Maybe, but I think we can be sure of one thing – he won’t muss his hair.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Bishops inactivity to be first will be punished..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Oh, and what will the Bishop isn’t first tax rate going to be :)

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM

An honest politician justice is one who stays bought.

Check Roberts freezer for cold cash.

viking01 on June 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Something blew on one of my boats today and I’m in a bad mood, and my little daughter threw up because she hooked a Walleye through the eye and it popped out when we de-hooked; she’ll be scarred for life.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Bishop:Could be worse.She could of ripped out its beating heart..
….to your possible horror,haha!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM

No. The assholian 75hp on the pontoon decided to seize, and when I say seize I mean it locked up tighter than Chris Matthew’s lips on Barky’s ****. In the middle of the lake, no less. Let me tell you how happy I was, better yet let the other people who live on the lake tell you because I’m sure every one of them heard me.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

75hp????

You exceeded the 45hp deemed by Congress…..
You may have bigger problems..

*I kid….years ago when I owned a boat…I had something similar…
well..
The engine and boat was at the bottom…
Engine was seized by salt water and rust…

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM

I used to work with a lot of oriental labor. Fish eyes were a delicacy. But they couldn’t read the microwave buttons.

I hear to tell ya, there is no worse smell than fish eyes super-nuked. Cleared the building. Take the rest of the day off.

Same thing happened with rats in soy sauce. They never did figure out the microwave.

wolly4321 on June 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM

be wery, wery quiet… Bmore is hunting trolls LOL! :)

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM

And then my little chickadee yanks a Waller up with a hook through the eye and asks me to be gentle, please don’t hurt the fish, daddy.

Boop! Out goes the eye and up comes the chuck all over her shirt. Spousal unit says I should have cut the fish loose with the hook still in it, as if I’ll give up that nice lure for a frickin’ fish.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Any H/A

crew member,from…..West Virginia????

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM

but one has to wonder if this is the entire plan all along… look at how the left claimed that justices shouldn’t be granted life time appointments, when they thought that Ocare would go down. Now we have the right asking the same questions after the ruling. I still believe that the court must not be influenced by the governing body at the time, but I must admit, I didn’t think that Roberts would be the one to throw the monkey wrench into the wheels of the court.

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

If you mean that he used his position to brand as his the “The Roberts Court”, or to prove his Supreme “fairness”, that’s not what he’s there for! Is this or that ruling Constitutional or not? That’s all. Not any clown’s tricks of turning a Commerce distortion into a Tax debacle.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on June 29, 2012 at 10:06 PM

President Lawless now has a soul mate in Chief Justice Lawless.

PappyD61 on June 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Where’s Xena when you need her?

malclave on June 29, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

What did you expect by buying a GM motor for your boat?

*uncommon now runs and hides*

Just kidding Bishop

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 10:07 PM

pousal unit says I should have cut the fish loose with the hook still in it, as if I’ll give up that nice lure for a frickin’ fish.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM

This is a sign of a true fisherman….

*I am serious*

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:07 PM

WBhere Ted Kennedy is, there is no rest.

bw222 on June 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

bw222:

Hopey’s H*ll HealthCare!:)
(sarc).

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:07 PM

ramrants on June 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

The gate was cracked open in the teens (Teddy and the National Parks) It was nudged a little farther open with the direct vote on Senators, The FED and Income taxes under Wilson. It got pushed a little farther with FDR and Social Security. Then nearly all the way with LBJ and the Great Society.Nixon (EPA) and Carter (Dept of Ed) ran through the open gate and Bush pushed it all the way open with his Medicare expansions. Roberts just took it off its hinges so we can’t close it without building a brand new gate (constitutional amendments)

chemman on June 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Liberals are celebrating… because they believe that people will never reject entitlements once they have them. Evidence from around the world proves them right.

That’s why it’s important to repeal it quickly, before people get used to the “right”.

But, I don’t want to sound like a fanatic. It doesn’t have to be done immediately… start of business on January 21 is fine.

malclave on June 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM

But, I don’t want to sound like a fanatic. It doesn’t have to be done immediately… start of business on January 21 is fine.

malclave on June 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Works for me..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on June 29, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I completely agree, the court is supposed to be there to determine constitutionality, not deem themselves a place in history.

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Tough day. Almost as bad as yesterday (for you, maybe even worse).

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM

President Lawless now has a soul mate in Chief Justice Lawless.

PappyD61 on June 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Where’s Xena when you need her?

malclave on June 29, 2012 at 10:06 PM

malclave:Lucy was a “Protest’n”,she probably is in jail!!

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Tough day. Almost as bad as yesterday (for you, maybe even worse).

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Hadn’t thought of that…

If my car crapped out today on the freeway…
there would be h@ll to pay….

Luckly my car knows me….

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Victory or defeat?

Stabbed in the back, like the French love to do. Benedict Roberts should be the next President of France, the slimy bastid.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

You think that’s his real name, Elijah Sweete? It kind of has a ring to it.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Bishop:Sounds like some brand of French Maple syrup!

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Tough day. Almost as bad as yesterday (for you, maybe even worse).

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM

It’s been one of those periods of time when everything seems to go wrong. I’m still trying to digest the SCOTUS debacle and then everything else just seemed to fray around the edges.

I’m with pretty much everyone else, worried about what’s coming.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:13 PM

If the chief justice thinks that the power to tax means Congress can do anything in the name of a tax than we are totally f**ked.

CW on June 29, 2012 at 9:58 PM

We’re already totally f**cked.

Who is John Galt on June 29, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I hear to tell ya, there is no worse smell than fish eyes super-nuked. Cleared the building. Take the rest of the day off.

wolly4321 on June 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM

I had to cut open a cow eyeball in 8th grade science and I wanted to hurl. However, I don’t think I’d have a problem clawing out a certain Chief Justice’s eyeballs right now though.

TxAnn56 on June 29, 2012 at 10:13 PM

ATF Talking Point: Terry’s Death ‘Exact Reason Why We Must Continue’

The ATF’s public relations hoped to use Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death in Operation Fast and Furious to promote the bureau’s work, a newly released document shows.

Bast*rds

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

From kingjester’s blog post today, Et Tu, Roberts?

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Patrick Henry; great quote – followed up by precisely the kind of futile simpering Henry was railing against. Irony.

Midas on June 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

My 70hp Johnson 3 cylinder would never do that to me.

wolly4321 on June 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Welcome to the newly birthed American Socialist Superstate.

How does A.S.S. taste?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I’m with pretty much everyone else, worried about what’s coming.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:13 PM

:)

I understand.

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

If anyone thinks Roberts did us a favor and was making a case for the electorate, legislative and executive to set it’s own policy and course they’re sadly mistaken. They won’t, economic realities will. That will be in the form of failure of the dollar, default on our debt and the collapse of our economic system. In other words, the fall of our country. Roberts just speed the process up. All in the liberal anthem of fairness.

lowandslow on June 29, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I think he did us an immense favor, but not in that way. He provided clarity in what needs to be done and that we must always remain diligent. We may be successful in November, but we must always keep our eyes focused as stupidity (as evidenced by Roberts and the other four judges) is always present and can come when least expected.

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

No. The assholian 75hp on the pontoon decided to seize, and when I say seize I mean it locked up tighter than Chris Matthew’s lips on Barky’s ****. In the middle of the lake, no less. Let me tell you how happy I was, better yet let the other people who live on the lake tell you because I’m sure every one of them heard me.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

” I’ve got an old fat boat.
She’s slow but handsome.
Hard in the chine and soft in the transom.
I love her, and she loves me.But I think it’s only for my money”.

katy the mean old lady on June 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

There is a larger point. If the only way Americans can defend their liberties is to hide behind the verbiage of a Supreme Court opinion, it’s already too late for freedom here.

See, here’s the thing. I believe this to be true. It’s the very reason I am feeling pressed. I wanted 0 care struck down completely and still do. So my expectation of having it done so certainly by the court makes me lazy like water. I don’t like that. I’m to believe the greatest way to do this the thing is though the vote. I believe that. I want to know that the citizenery are the ones that ultimately decide. That relies on our citizens to vote to preserve their family’s well being and their own self interest. I like that, it’s one of my core beliefs. It falls to trust. Being able to trust your fellow citizen to do those things necessary for self governance. Which of course leads us to the question.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

ATF Talking Point: Terry’s Death ‘Exact Reason Why We Must Continue’

The ATF’s public relations hoped to use Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death in Operation Fast and Furious to promote the bureau’s work, a newly released document shows.

Bast*rds

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Ghouls.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

And to think…
My mom is going to vote for Obama because she hate Bush…

Strange…

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

better yet let the other people who live on the lake tell you because I’m sure every one of them heard me.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Bishop:

Never had that problem,grandpa`s everude twin,2 cylinder(3.5Hp)!

Btw,did you bring any oars!!!!!!!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I love her, and she loves me.But I think it’s only for my money”.

katy the mean old lady on June 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

It is the money thing…
Trust me…
Once I got rid of her (no offense)
I was able to buy a house..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I wonder why there wasn’t one article prior to yesterday by any so called conservative telling us if would be in the countries best interests for the mandate to be upheld by virtue of it being a tax? That seems odd since that’s all I’m reading about now.

lowandslow on June 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

There is a larger point. If the only way Americans can defend their liberties is to hide behind the verbiage of a Supreme Court opinion, it’s already too late for freedom here.

Someone doesn’t understand the point of having a Constitution.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Not true, these days I mostly talk at them, or don’t.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 10:19 PM

For your viewing pleasure..:)
http://www.therightscoop.com/video-sarah-palin-nancy-pelosi-is-a-dingbat/

idesign on June 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Oh my God, that was awesome. Dead serious delivery too. HA! How can I make that into a ringtone…

Dongemaharu on June 29, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Btw,did you bring any oars!!!!!!!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Now this is important…
Really..
I always had an oars….
Except it oared in circles…

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:19 PM

“It is one of the saddest spectacles of our time to see a great democratic movement support a policy which must lead to the destruction of democracy and which meanwhile can benefit only a minority of the masses who support it. Yet it is this support from the Left of the tendencies toward monopoly which make them so irresistible and the prospects of the future so dark.”
Friedrich A. von Hayek, The Road to Serfdom

tom daschle concerned on June 29, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I was right. Again.
No one seems to get it.
Roberts denied O the cover of the Commerce Clause.
He BS’ed the liberals into agreeing to the “tax” label. Other than Gisburg, none of them caught it.
He rebuked O soundly on several issues. By applying the word “tax,” he called O a liar, and handed the Republicans a gold-plated gift!
To top it off, he punted the ball back to Congress; after all, if you believe conservatives, it’s “their (Congress’) job” to legislate, not the Court’s.
The decision effectively set the stage for OCare to be exposed as a massive tax increase. It turns OCare from a program the Dimmys are proud of into, as Ed Rendell so aptly put it, an “albatross around (their) neck.”
CJ Roberts is a genius. It’s a shame no one seems to get it.

n0doz on June 29, 2012 at 10:20 PM

But I think it’s only for my money”.

katy the mean old lady on June 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Ain’t that the truth.

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I wonder why there wasn’t one article prior to yesterday by any so called conservative telling us if would be in the countries best interests for the mandate to be upheld by virtue of it being a tax? That seems odd since that’s all I’m reading about now.

lowandslow on June 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Actually, neo-neocon wrote exactly that in a post the night before the decision and I had a little comment debate with her why it was terrible and would spell the end. That was the only one I saw saying it, though.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Well, my 75hp johnson has never given me trouble…

Oh, that’s what you meant…..

viking01 on June 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Never had that problem,grandpa`s everude twin,2 cylinder(3.5Hp)!

Btw,did you bring any oars!!!!!!!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

With the way this country is sinking, we’re gonna need a bigger boat.

TxAnn56 on June 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM

n0doz on June 29, 2012 at 10:20 PM

that is a mind-numbingly stupid theory….

chasdal on June 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

See, but there’s a reason the SC is there in the first place. If it’s all and always about the citizenry and the vote, then we don’t need the SC.

you (and the author) seem to be effectively saying “just let Congress and the Prez do whatever they want, and we can be vigilant and ‘change the oil’ every few years if we don’t like it.”

Midas on June 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM

What did you expect by buying a GM motor for your boat?

*uncommon now runs and hides*

Just kidding Bishop

uncommon sense on June 29, 2012 at 10:07 PM

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“And I don’t mind staying, and I don’t mind going,
But I some damn tired of rowing.”

katy the mean old lady on June 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Well, my 75hp johnson has never given me trouble…

Oh, that’s what you meant…..

viking01 on June 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM

They have a chip to get an extra 15hp..

No SH!t…

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I wonder why there wasn’t one article prior to yesterday by any so called conservative telling us if would be in the countries best interests for the mandate to be upheld by virtue of it being a tax? That seems odd since that’s all I’m reading about now.

lowandslow on June 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM

LOL, no kidding.

Desperate people trying so very, very hard to delude themselves into feeling better.

Midas on June 29, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I hope conservatives are noticing that a lot of the Romney lovers at National Review and Fox News seem pretty happy about the Obamneycare ruling.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Never had that problem,grandpa`s everude twin,2 cylinder(3.5Hp)!

Btw,did you bring any oars!!!!!!!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

“Well, mercy, mercy, I do declare,
If half the fun of going is getting there,
Mercy, Percy, you better start rowing,
‘Cause the other half of getting there is going.”

katy the mean old lady on June 29, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Which of course leads us to the question.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

“Do you feel lucky, Punk?”

jaime on June 29, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Might as well as had Lisa Murkowski write the majority decision.

AshleyTKing on June 29, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Think on how smart the founders where they left breadcrumbs in the constitution that could fix things when it go off.

Representation lead to the 3/5 part. Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 was a slow way that they knew that slavery would have a way to get out. If slaves counted at one person the slave states would have more congressman and then never get out. The 3/5 made the non-slave heavy state equal if not more. It did take a war as that was too slow but it made half of the country fighting for freedom for all.

The other breadcrumb to remove slavery was taxes. A slave tax. If you have a slave you have to pay a tax. If you use slave cotton, tobacco or any slave labor product you have a tax. But if you remove all slaves you remove the tax. Or you get people who just remove the tax which would not happen.

If you remove the tax you remove the problems that it created one way or another. If you remove the tax you remove the big government. It might need more flushing out but the path to end big government is to end taxes and the ability to get debt, to just have someone else who is not even born yet pay the taxes.

tjexcite on June 29, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Bast*rds

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Flora Duh:

I was following the Contempt Debate,and a letterhead was mentioned,and the speaker,was going ballistic about it,if
thats the same one!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:25 PM

No. The assholian 75hp on the pontoon decided to seize, and when I say seize I mean it locked up tighter than Chris Matthew’s lips on Barky’s ****. In the middle of the lake, no less. Let me tell you how happy I was, better yet let the other people who live on the lake tell you because I’m sure every one of them heard me.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM


I’ve got an old fat boat.
She’s slow but handsome.
Hard in the chine and soft in the transom.
I love her, and she loves me.But I think it’s only for my money”.

katy the mean old lady on June 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

A simple wink could never do this exchange justice. This is a prime example of why I love this place.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 10:25 PM

One justices opinion doesn’t get rid of the commerce clause. Think again.

wolly4321 on June 29, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Libs have a point….once the freebies begin its hard to stop them
This has got to stop…..need to get the senate and wh back and stand strong and tell tge truth

Folks will get it.

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 9:00 PM

our nominee is ROMNEY … he is gonna do that ….
R I G H T ….

conservative tarheel on June 29, 2012 at 10:27 PM

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

“Well, mercy, mercy, I do declare,
If half the fun of going is getting there,
Mercy, Percy, you better start rowing,
‘Cause the other half of getting there is going.”

katy the mean old lady on June 29, 2012 at 10:23 PM

katy the mean old lady:Lol,ahem…..Forward!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2012 at 10:27 PM

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