Paul Ryan: The American people have one last chance

posted at 2:41 pm on June 29, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

On Fox & Friends this morning, House Budget Committee chairman, bigtime Romney surrogate, and all-around fiscal guru Paul Ryan had what I thought was a very reasoned view on Thursday’s Supreme Court ruling on ObamaCare (emphasis mine):

“Absolutely,” said Ryan. “There are 21 taxes in this bill, 12 of which hit people making less than $250,000 per year. That in and of itself is a violation of the President’s promise not to tax people making less than $250,000.”

Ryan said that the way the President and Congressional Democrats sold this bill has been proven false by the Supreme Court ruling. “I agree with the dissenting opinion that they rewrote this law calling it a tax,” said Ryan.

“We have a law that we have one more chance to repeal, and that’s this November election,” Ryan continued. “That’s basically what the Supreme Court did; they raised the stakes of this election. We have one more chance – and that’s basically what they said. The people of this country are going to be the final arbiters of this.”

For one reason or another, I’m sure many of us will be bristling with Chief Justice Robert’s mandate-permitting opinion on ObamaCare for some time to come, but everybody’s been discussing at least one key takeaway from his decision that I thought very profound:

Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.

At the end of the day, it is absolutely true that we did this to ourselves. As the years have worn on, we’ve consistently demonstrated a prevailing penchant for electing people into office who do little to safeguard our personal freedom and responsibility. Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible. If we don’t stop living in our little bubbles of willful ignorance and summon the political will to reverse the bacchanalian frenzy of entitlement spending and big government, America’s best days really are behind us — and it’ll be nobody’s fault but our own.

So I have to agree with that point of Justice Roberts’ (not his entire decision, mind you) and with Paul Ryan here — this election really is going to be about a fundamental choice. We’re wildly mistaken if we think that our position as the wealthiest, freest, most exceptional country in the world is a secure one — you’d think that was obvious, but here we are, with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama neck and neck in the polls. The core question of this election is going to come down to Ben Franklin’s warning after completing the Constitution: “A republic, if you can keep it.” I think we can still do this, America — I’m not ready to give up on you yet!


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Paul Ryan? Fiscal guru?

Why don’t people pay attention?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Yesterday’s ruling has to make Ryan VP, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwk1aHU-pms

cpaulus on June 29, 2012 at 2:44 PM

“We have a law that we have one more chance to repeal, and that’s this November election,” Ryan continued.

Well, Ryan, you may very well get that chance and I expect you and your colleagues to fail at it.

rickv404 on June 29, 2012 at 2:45 PM

A Republic if you can keep it. Yes We Can.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 2:45 PM

He’s right about the last chance thing.

bgibbs1000 on June 29, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Why don’t people pay attention?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Remember..when you point a finger, there are 4 pointed back at you.

Dr. Paul lost.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.

At the end of the day, it is absolutely true that we did this to ourselves. As the years have worn on, we’ve consistently demonstrated a prevailing penchant for electing people into office who do little to safeguard our personal freedom and responsibility. Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible. If we don’t stop living in our little bubbles of willful ignorance and summon the political will to reverse the bacchanalian frenzy of entitlement spending and big government, America’s best days really are behind us — and it’ll be nobody’s fault but our own.

Whatever, only set of appointees occasionally thinks about that.

rob verdi on June 29, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Right on, Erika. Groovy.

The Rogue Tomato on June 29, 2012 at 2:46 PM

He’s even got his stern face on in the picture.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 2:47 PM

At the end of the day, it is absolutely true that we did this to ourselves. As the years have worn on, we’ve consistently demonstrated a prevailing penchant for electing people into office who do little to safeguard our personal freedom and responsibility. Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible. If we don’t stop living in our little bubbles of willful ignorance and summon the political will to reverse the bacchanalian frenzy of entitlement spending and big government, America’s best days really are behind us — and it’ll be nobody’s fault but our own.

So I have to agree with that point of Justice Roberts’ (not his entire decision, mind you) and with Paul Ryan here — this election really is going to be about a fundamental choice. We’re wildly mistaken if we think that our position as the wealthiest, freest, most exceptional country in the world is a secure one — you’d think that was obvious, but here we are, with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama neck and neck in the polls. The core question of this election is going to come down to Ben Franklin’s warning after completing the Constitution: “A republic, if you can keep it.” I think we can still do this, America — I’m not ready to give up on you yet!

Absolutely correct. Roberts neither supported nor shut down ObamaCare. He handed it over to us to make that decision.

Kim Priestap on June 29, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Remember..when you point a finger, there are 4 pointed back at you.

Dr. Paul lost.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Actually, there are only three. Other than that, yeah, pretty much what you said.

sadarj on June 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments.

Says the Chief Justice that personally re-wrote legislation to make it “constitutional.”

Happy Nomad on June 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM

It’s class warfare, alright – the working class versus the mooching class.

Ward Cleaver on June 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM

So does the GOP, frankly.

catmman on June 29, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Actually, there are only three. Other than that, yeah, pretty much what you said.

sadarj on June 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Actually, in Dante’s case, it’s four. His mother drank too much when she was pregnant, so he was born with an extra finger, which he uses to pick the potatoes out of his ears and smear them on his keyboard. He doesn’t have a woman in his life (aside from his alcoholic mother), so he can get away with stuff like that.

CurtZHP on June 29, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Richard Prior used to have a bit about his kids running in the house…”it might have looked like I was running, but I wasn’t really running”…

so “it might look like a tax, but it isn’t really a tax”

teejk on June 29, 2012 at 2:52 PM

“That’s basically what the Supreme Court did; they raised the stakes of this election. We have one more chance – and that’s basically what they said. The people of this country are going to be the final arbiters of this.”

Unfortunately, the “people of this country” can be analogized with the insect world.

On the one hand, you have the parasites – the mosquitos, the gnats, the ticks and the fleas, and, on the other, you have the worker bees.

There will always be far more parasites, than worker bees.

What has happened to this country is the intended culmination of the Socialist takeover, starting with FDR.

The parasites outnumber us … and they now represent the majority of the “people of this country.

Unless the parasites don’t vote, the parasites have won.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 29, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Conservative Yoda FTW.

Red Cloud on June 29, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Paul Ryan? Fiscal guru?

Why don’t people pay attention?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Why don’t you get a job? Oh wait: you can’t, can you.

AubieJon on June 29, 2012 at 2:53 PM

At the end of the day, it is absolutely true that we did this to ourselves. As the years have worn on, we’ve consistently demonstrated a prevailing penchant for electing people into office who do little to safeguard our personal freedom and responsibility. Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible. If we don’t stop living in our little bubbles of willful ignorance and summon the political will to reverse the bacchanalian frenzy of entitlement spending and big government, America’s best days really are behind us — and it’ll be nobody’s fault but our own.

Truer words. It’s now up to us to fight back and do something about it.

Glad you’re here, Erika.

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Next up…all blacks and Hispanics to get waivers. Better yet, they’ll all get free health care. According to sources…Roberts’ concurs. Obamacare is only a tax on white people…men specifically.

cajunpatriot on June 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM

It is strange that all politicians and judges expect stiff spines from the American people while they don’t seem to be able to display any..?

d1carter on June 29, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Politico: Dem rep: Yes, the GOP can use reconciliation now to repeal the mandate

Yes, we have one last chance. But we can’t let it slip away through complacency or lack of effort. It all comes down to Romney winning, as we certainly will gain the Senate.
We have to push hard to get us all to donate more and more $, and more and more time. And we need to attack O with greater force, magnum force, in ads and the web, and someone use banner web ads to remind people of key forgotten issues, attack on so many different levels from so many different places.

anotherJoe on June 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Absolutely correct. Roberts neither supported nor shut down ObamaCare. He handed it over to us to make that decision.

Kim Priestap on June 29, 2012 at 2:49 PM

And that was his goal all along, I believe. He doesn’t want the Court to trump the democratic process or become a “court of last resort” for the losing party in a political battle. He found a way not to have to do that.

rockmom on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Romney has to broaden the attack. He know must say the truth…that the house/senate can do anything to the citizens, aside from the bill of rights.

we’re getting close to Obama’s Dream…having scotus approve of affirmative rights. the congress now has the power to tax for non-conformance to its edicts.

Romney must be clear eyed about this. this country can no longer fool around…congress has vast powers to manage our lives…commercially, financially and every other way

He must wrap that into the obamacare thing…barry.care is just One example…it is not the end if we don’t want it

the left will fight viciously against mitt…obama’s stump speech will include statements that Rs will deprive people of h/c

r keller on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”

I agree with Roberts on his sentiments that they shouldn’t be ruling on policy, but the job of SCOTUS is to make sure that laws fit the Constitution, so it is VERY MUCH their job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices!!!!!

The Constitution is what you folks are supposed to be defending and protecting, not the people!!!!!! So do your &^%*^% job.

jwally on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Paul Ryan? Fiscal guru?

Why don’t people pay attention?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 2:43 PM

I can’t wait to hear your rationalization for supporting Obama once he announces his support for legalized weed.

The Count on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

It is strange that all politicians and judges expect stiff spines from the American people while they don’t seem to be able to display any..?

d1carter on June 29, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Which is why we should replace them all, regularly, and never trust them.

rockmom on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Paul Ryan? Fiscal guru?

Why don’t people pay attention?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 2:43 PM

That ankle bracelet must really be chafing, huh?

AubieJon on June 29, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible.

Why did you have to bring Orin Hatch into it?

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 3:04 PM

He’s even got his stern face on in the picture.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Looks like a smirk to me.

UltimateBob on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

This is precisely how I felt about it when I first heard the decision.

Justice Roberts correctly tossed it back to the American People making us accountable (and rightly so) for making the final decision to either eat this crap sandwich or toss it into the garbage bin of history.

I thought his decision a brilliant stroke.

The Ugly American on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.

It is the court’s job to sanely review, interpret and rule on the law.

Chief Justice’s Roberts’ opinion was Orwellian. For the purposes of the Anti-Injuction act the mandate was not a tax. For the purposes of upholding the law in such a away as it could not again be challenged the mandate is a tax.

Perhaps Minstry of Truth is more applicable name than the Supreme Court as long as Justice Roberts presides.

If you look at his title, Chief Justice, as something out of “1984″, Roberts’ decision make more sense.

MessesWithTexas on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

The one last chance is toast.

Go to any larger city and drive dowtown during the day. Lots and lots of people hanging out doing everything but working.

These people are all big supporters of welfare, medicaid, food stamps, rent subsidies, free school lunchs, free books,etc. They are the democratic party. More democrats than republicans.

Their vote counts the same as yours except they get to vote 2-3 times in some of the larger cities. They also have all their dead relatives, illegal aliens and jail bird buddies voting with them.

Their are also alot more peoople willing to live this way than there are workers to pay for them.

They win. Just a matter of time before the fiat currency collapses.

acyl72 on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Absolutely correct. Roberts neither supported nor shut down ObamaCare. He handed it over to us to make that decision.

Kim Priestap on June 29, 2012 at 2:49 PM

I agree…the only problem is that is not what he swore an oath to do and it’s never been done in the history of the Republic. He did what Obama does…whatever he wants to.

cajunpatriot on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

-My main obligations as a citizen are to behave responsibly and provide for myself and my dependents.

-Nothing entitles me to other people’s property or service.

-No one is required to give me things I need.

-I don’t believe it’s government’s job to provide for my material needs.

-I won’t willingly take any material benefit from government that I can provide for myself.

Real conservatives need to pledge this to themselves each and every day.

Bat Chain Puller on June 29, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Yes we’re partly to blame. We’ve ignored the machinations of the socialist Left fr decades and now we’re literally on a precipice.

But I don’t believe that if we lose it means a lifetime of indentured servitude to the cause of ‘social justice’ via the heavy hand of the federal government. No, if we lose it will be the final ail in the coffin of the current United States.

The differences between Left and Right are a chasm, they’re irreconcilible because we have fundamental differences of opinion regarding a fair, free, and just society. Irreconcilible differences lead to divorce and I believe it’s time for the Right to divorce the Left. I don’t want to spend my life battling these people. I want to be left alone to take care of myself and live my life as I want to live it, not as some bureaucrat wants me to live it.

If the Leftists really want to create their Utopia I say let them. Maybe they would be just as eager for a divorce as conservatives since we’re the ones standing in the way of their paradise.

I suspect their Leftist nation would rapidly descend into North Korea like totalitarianism.

Imagine if the Left could enact their insane agenda unimpeded. Scary.

The alternative is a return to a very strong federalism where the states have much increased autonomy. I don’t have much hope in our squishy GOP to pursue this route though. I suspect that we will have a citizen led dissolution of the country into to very different halves.

Charlemagne on June 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Absolutely correct. Roberts neither supported nor shut down ObamaCare. He handed it over to us to make that decision.

Kim Priestap on June 29, 2012 at 2:49 PM
And that was his goal all along, I believe. He doesn’t want the Court to trump the democratic process or become a “court of last resort” for the losing party in a political battle. He found a way not to have to do that.

rockmom on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Any guesses as to why the other conservative justices on the court weren’t taken by the beauty and brilliance of this move?

Kataklysmic on June 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Our flaming liberal betters lied, bribed, and changed the rules to get Obamacare enacted. They, too, know that November is the last chance to get rid of it. They will, again, lie, bribe and cheat to win in November. It will not be an easy election for us.

GaltBlvnAtty on June 29, 2012 at 3:08 PM

I didn’t vote for a single pig in Congress, or in the Oval Office, who foisted this Socialist disaster upon us.

This was not my “political choice.”

Roberts can go to hell, for implicating me.

It reminds me of those who say, “what does this have to say about us?”

It doesn’t say a damn thing about me, and I resent the implication.

I’ll not be an excuse for the destruction of this country.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Throw most from the congress/senate out in Nov. and Obama too.

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Seems to me that ObamaTaxCare was in fact actually unconstitutional as originally passed by Congress as so stated in the Majority Opinion.

However, John Roberts created Constitutionality on his own by making the Mandate a “Tax” when that was not the Legislative intent of the Bill voted on and passed by Congress. Talk about Judicial Activism and Arrogance.

Also seems to me that the proper decision ought to have been to send the Case back for a re-work of terminology and then see if the Bill would pass or fail having the Mandate as a Tax.

ashiya on June 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Elect Romney, Take Senate for 51 votes, keep House.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Comrades, comrades. Lay back, enjoy.

faraway on June 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I’ve pretty much given up. America has destroyed itself.

BillCarson on June 29, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Still in my denial stage…

rubberneck on June 29, 2012 at 3:21 PM

…We destroyed the country because we wanted to believe someone else would give us something for free. I’m not part of the “we”. I just got destroyed along with everyone else.

BillCarson on June 29, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I will make myself clear: I will vote for Romney and a GOP congress in the upcoming election. I have written extensively over the last several years to try and persuade others to vote in responsible law makers and a responsible president as well. I will continue to do so.

That being said, to all of you who believe that Romney and the GOP majority congress will march right over and sign a repeal bill as soon as Romney is sworn in, I ask “Did you just get into town?”

Just as Roberts moved to protect the Supreme Court from the appearance of bias or politicization, a move that is in and of itself politicizing the court, resorting to any means necessary or available to him to accomplish his purpose, so the congress and the new president will move to cut deals on everything from immigration to Obamacare.

What Roberts motivations were for choosing to protect the court, even over a clean reading of the Constitution, to the point of actually deciding to TELL THE CONGRESS THAT THE MANDATE THEY INSISTED REPEATEDLY THAT THEY HAD WRITTEN AND HAD DEFENDED IN HIS COURT AS A MANDATE, WAS, INSTEAD, A TAX, will undoubtedly be argued for some time to come.

It doesn’t matter. Its done. And with it, all the inherent harm that comes from acting for motivations other than the service of the law.

The same will hold true of congress and president Romney. They will move to cut their deals, for, no doubt, a number of considerations, but the end result will be the erosion of the legislative process and the betrayal of those who elected them to REPRESENT THEM in Washington D.C at the nations capital.

The ONLY way that Romney and the new GOP majority whom we send to the White House and to congress as our duly elected proxies can avoid that betrayal is to resist the impulse and compulsion to do ‘business as usual’ in the capital and keep their word to those who elected them and REPEAL Obamacare in its entirety.

How many times, over the course of your adult lives, have we put our faith in our elected officials, only to see them walk back their campaign promises, rendering up excuses and outright lies for failing to keep their word? For over 40 years the vast majority of Americans have demanded that the borders be well secured. Are they? That same majority of Americans has demanded that illegal immigration be ended and that existing federal immigration law be consistently and fully enforced. Has it been? Deals have been made.

Half measures. Tweaks. Small fixes. Fiddling with the law. Large doses of a complete failure to act at all. Deals have been made. Deals WILL be made.

Its been said that if the Republicans fail to deliver on the REPEAL Of Obamacare it will be the end of the GOP. It will for me. This is my last dance with the GOP if they fail to keep their word on this.

A third party? In all frankness, I don’t know. But I’m worn all the way through with supporting politicians who fail to keep their promises and who put their careers, their colleagues careers, and the institutions to which they gain membership ahead of the will of those who elected them to office.

thatsafactjack on June 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Paul Ryan is wrong, we do not have a chance ..or a prayer.
Even if we have elections,
even if Hussein loses in that election,
Hussein will challenge the results in the SCOTUS
and Obama-girl Roberts will fix it for Hussein !!
And then when we will challenge his fix-it….oh we can’t do that :-(

burrata on June 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM

ashiya on June 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Excellent analysis, and I couldn’t agree more. The “intent” of the Act, as argued by the Government, was that the mandate was a product of the Commerce Clause, and was not a tax.

Roberts should’ve analyzed the Act, in light of the “intent” of those who authored it, and acted accordingly. If the mandate was not permissible under the Commerce Clause, it should’ve been declared unconstitutional, allowing Congress to re-visit and re-write the Act, if it chose to do so.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Dr. Paul lost.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 2:46 PM

No. You can’t lose if you are never really trying to win. As for Paul Ryan, he’s right. One chance only. If Republicans don’t have control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency, were screwed.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM

…We destroyed the country because we wanted to believe someone else would give us something for free. I’m not part of the “we”. I just got destroyed along with everyone else.

BillCarson on June 29, 2012 at 3:24 PM

“And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!”

http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm

ebrown2 on June 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM

For all the doomers and gloomers this Obamacare is defunded already because the Supreme Court ruled that States can opt out of the Medicaid Expansion program the main mechanism to cover the uninsured who cannot pay for their insurance.
Moreover this bill is no way worth than Social Security or Medicare but yet despite these two programs we not only survived but become the most powerful nation in history…

mnjg on June 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Actually, in Dante’s case, it’s four. His mother drank too much when she was pregnant, so he was born with an extra finger, which he uses to pick the potatoes out of his ears and smear them on his keyboard. He doesn’t have a woman in his life (aside from his alcoholic mother), so he can get away with stuff like that.

CurtZHP on June 29, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Ed and AP… Why do you let commenters get away with personal attacks like this? This sort of stuff is no better than the liberal trolling that you have banned people for, and it really lowers the class level of the site. Please deal with people like this. Please?

Shump on June 29, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I thought his decision a brilliant stroke.

The Ugly American on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Wow, reading and repeating GOP drivel? Since when is SCOTUS authorized to CREATE a tax where isn’t one? Roberts was handed a law, 2700 pages of it, that DID NOT MENTION A TAX. He was asked to rule on a MANDATE, NOT TAX.

Roberts is a legal hack, nothing but. Let me correct it, a PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL HACK and very vane and full of himself at that.

And Ryan and Co? Since when is it WE, Ryan? Since GOP, in the person of GOP Senator Snow allowed this abomination to even proceed to a vote? Or since a GOP selected SC judge decided he is God and to hell with the Constitution he sworn to abide to? Or GOP leaders Boehner and McConnell that bend over each and every time and don’t even ask for Vaseline in the process? Or the self proclaimed progressive liberal you have forced on us as your GOP candidate?

Who is WE, Rep. Ryan? YOU? The brilliant math guy who proposes to cut $400 Billion per year when deficit is at $1.4 TRILLION and inching higher as we speak? Will you come up with that extra $1 TRILLION out of your own pocket? Yeah, don’t think so.

You were given a mandate in 2010, what has GOP accomplished since then except for taking it in the ass each and every time? Willingly so judging by you hacks in Congress.

Who is WE? Ain’t GOP, that’s for sure.

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 3:28 PM

If Republicans don’t have control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency, were screwed.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Correct. And if Republicans do control both houses of Congress and the presidency, then our chances of being screwed are only 95%.

Shump on June 29, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Correct. And if Republicans do control both houses of Congress and the presidency, then our chances of being screwed are only 95%.

Shump on June 29, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Thanks for my laugh for the day. I try to do it, at least once a day.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 29, 2012 at 3:31 PM

BillCarson on June 29, 2012 at 3:21 PM

This is what worries me the most. I am considering becoming a civil disobedient dropout myself. Yet the American ideal is worth fighting for, for my children and their children. This is our generation’s time to fight…yes, again.

d1carter on June 29, 2012 at 3:31 PM

For all the doomers and gloomers this Obamacare is defunded already because the Supreme Court ruled that States can opt out of the Medicaid Expansion program the main mechanism to cover the uninsured who cannot pay for their insurance.
Moreover this bill is no way worth than Social Security or Medicare but yet despite these two programs we not only survived but become the most powerful nation in history…

mnjg on June 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM

…by default after the rest of the world got blown to smithereens and we had an actuarial baby boom that hid the Ponzi schemes for a while. The standing bill for SS and Medicare already has us owing more than the entire country makes in a year, and the unfunded benefits are even higher than that.

ebrown2 on June 29, 2012 at 3:31 PM

For all the doomers and gloomers….

mnjg on June 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Except that all of that doesn’t kick in until long after the election. It will implode under it’s own weight, sure. But it will be too late. We are at the tipping point now – we have no more time.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:31 PM

And that was his goal all along, I believe. He doesn’t want the Court to trump the democratic process or become a “court of last resort” for the losing party in a political battle. He found a way not to have to do that.

rockmom on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Why is it we can figure that out, but Rush, Boortz, Levin and (possibly, haven’t heard him yet) Hannity apparently cannot?

splink on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

It’s the job of these conservative pundits to “stir the masses” so to speak. Levin was very outspoken last night on Roberts’ decision, as the others are too. Imagine if every one just laid down and said this was brilliant? Where would their listening audience go to vent? I say “keep the pot stirring” right up to Nov. 6. Plus, nothing will mobilize the Tea Party folks like a NEW TAX!

Rovin on June 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Dang Erika. I LOVE the way you write.

RushBaby on June 29, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Here’s a little something from Big Government to motivate you, from last night’s little Obama Gloat Fest:

Benjamin –

It’s been a good day.

But this is a three-step process.

1. Pass historic health care reform. Check.

2. Get affirmation from the highest court in the country. Check.

Step three? Win the damn election.

Mitt Romney has been clear he’d repeal Obamacare on Day One. Just another reminder of how much is at stake in November.

Donate $3 or more today:

barackobama.com/Upheld

Let’s go,
Messina
Jim Messina

Campaign Manager

Obama for America

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM

For all the doomers and gloomers this Obamacare is defunded already because the Supreme Court ruled that States can opt out of the Medicaid Expansion program the main mechanism to cover the uninsured who cannot pay for their insurance.
Moreover this bill is no way worth than Social Security or Medicare but yet despite these two programs we not only survived but become the most powerful nation in history…

mnjg on June 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Sure, same way other states “opted out” from RomneyCare in MA. Do you realize that you and I are subsidizing RomneyCare deficits that are now running into hundreds of millions per year?

States that “opted out” will still pay for the whole thing, one way or another. Remember, its not a mandate any longer, its a TAX. Very easy to phrase every law from now on and to tie it into a tax of some sort.

Krautbrain and all the GOP hacks can spin it any which way they feel like, we’re are doomed at this point since even with reconciliation I bet McConnell will yet again take in the rear from Reid and Co. when it comes to voting, one way or another. As it happened each and every time before, without exception.

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 3:35 PM

At the end of the day, it is absolutely true that we did this to ourselves. As the years have worn on, we’ve consistently demonstrated a prevailing penchant for electing people into office who do little to safeguard our personal freedom and responsibility. Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible. If we don’t stop living in our little bubbles of willful ignorance and summon the political will to reverse the bacchanalian frenzy of entitlement spending and big government, America’s best days really are behind us — and it’ll be nobody’s fault but our own.

*Applause!*

This is a center-right country. Barack and Pelosi and Reid and their ilk live way out on the fringiest fringe of the left. They can be beaten, and they can be beaten soundly. So let’s get it done.

Rational Thought on June 29, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Paul Ryan: The American people have one last chance

And they should use it to save themselves and the future of the country voting for Gary Johnson, the only candidate on the ballot in November that didn’t invent Obamacare.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible

Pointing the finger at East Texas for electing Ron Paul to congress again?

Correct. And if Republicans do control both houses of Congress and the presidency, then our chances of being screwed are only 95%.

Shump on June 29, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Oh, come on. It’s got to be closer to 93% or so.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:40 PM

At the end of the day, it is absolutely true that we did this to ourselves. As the years have worn on, we’ve consistently demonstrated a prevailing penchant for electing people into office who do little to safeguard our personal freedom and responsibility. Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible. If we don’t stop living in our little bubbles of willful ignorance and summon the political will to reverse the bacchanalian frenzy of entitlement spending and big government, America’s best days really are behind us — and it’ll be nobody’s fault but our own.

Except we’re way past the point of GOP primaries and what we have are same choices that got us into this mess.

Exit question, let’s take Utah as an example:

Would Hatch still have same numbers today if the SCOTUS decision was announced 2 months ago?

Or other incumbents such as Boehner?

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 3:41 PM

I thought the American people had one last chance during the votes for TARP, for the stimulus, and for the auto industry bailouts. Looking further back, I thought we had one last chance during the votes for No Child Left Behind and for Medicare Part D.

Oh wait, Paul Ryan voted yes on those.

Screw you, Paul Ryan, and screw you, GOP!

Commies in suits.

Mr. Arkadin on June 29, 2012 at 3:42 PM

The one last chance is toast.

Go to any larger city and drive dowtown during the day. Lots and lots of people hanging out doing everything but working.

These people are all big supporters of welfare, medicaid, food stamps, rent subsidies, free school lunchs, free books,etc. They are the democratic party. More democrats than republicans.

Their vote counts the same as yours except they get to vote 2-3 times in some of the larger cities. They also have all their dead relatives, illegal aliens and jail bird buddies voting with them.

Their are also alot more peoople willing to live this way than there are workers to pay for them.

They win. Just a matter of time before the fiat currency collapses.

acyl72 on June 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Dang, acy172, eeyore much?

BTW, does anyone know why some threads have the comments centered and some not? Driving me crazy (short drive, I know).

chelie on June 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Oh, come on. It’s got to be closer to 93% or so.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:40 PM

You guys are way too optimistic, IMO.

With at least one Dem lawmaker today saying that GOP can use reconciliation to defeat the law, I am SURE they already have a backup plan if they lose Senate in November. McConnell managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory before and i just can’t see him changing his ways. As much as I hate Reid he is worth 10 McConnells when it comes to making things happen. Or not.

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I’m sorry but while Roberts handed us one soppy statement about choice, the fact remains that his reasoning that Obamacare is rooted in a tax (and hence is constitutional) is wrong: a penalty for not following a law is not a tax.

If it were, I could deduct my speeding or parking ticket fines from my tax return since our tax law provides that taxes generally can be deducted from our gross income.

unclesmrgol on June 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM

And that was his goal all along, I believe. He doesn’t want the Court to trump the democratic process or become a “court of last resort” for the losing party in a political battle. He found a way not to have to do that.

rockmom on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

It is the job of the Supreme Court to protect the Constitution, period, not protect itself. It is the “court of last resort” to protect the liberty of the American people, which includes protecting that liberty from the people itself. If it is not doing its job it has no reason to exist. The “democratic process” as you call it can lead to unconstitutional results without any difficulty.

Roberts just shredded the Constitution. The government now has unlimited powers via its taxing authority, because John Roberts ruled it Constitutional.

Mr. Arkadin on June 29, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Erika’s my favorite.

Crefonso on June 29, 2012 at 3:48 PM

BTW, does anyone know why some threads have the comments centered and some not? Driving me crazy (short drive, I know).

chelie on June 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Sometimes css style from other sites hang around in your browser. Likely if you’ve been to other wordpress based blogs, if HotAir css sheets have the same default filenames, your browser doesn’t always clear them out and use the correct styles.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Paul Ryan: The American people have one last chance

And they should use it to save themselves and the future of the country voting for Gary Johnson, the only candidate on the ballot in November that didn’t invent Obamacare.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Hey, let’s all be really, really stupid and vote for Gary! That way Obama can appoint the sinkingRock as our saving grace….geeeeez.

Rovin on June 29, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Here’s what you have to do to repeal Obamacare:

1) Win the Presidency
2) Retain your majority in the House
3) Get sixty seats in the Senate
4) Deal with the dozens of heartbreaking stories about Tiny Tim, age 7, dying of cancer and being dropped by his heartless insurance company, now that Obamacare no longer compels the insurance company to actually keep Tim insured.

Good luck with that, especially #3.

Time Lord on June 29, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Thanks, oldroy!

chelie on June 29, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Ryan is right. Amen.

Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.

No one was asking the court to make policy, CJ Roberts. They were asking the court to rule on constitutionality. In that light, what do these statements really mean? Are you accusing fellow justices alito, Kennedy, Scalia, and Thomas of bad faith in their vote? Are you accusing them of trying to make policy? Because they think you legislated from the bench and rewrote the bill so you could uphold it.

Have you noticed that Obama and his gang are saying your rewrite is wrong, that the mandate is not a tax, and that your opinion means nothing, other than that they won? They likely think you were a useful fool.

farsighted on June 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Good luck with that, especially #3.

Time Lord on June 29, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Yep, most don;t understand that #3 is KEY, no way around it, GOP Resident or not since I can bet heavily that one way or another Des will find a way around reconciliation.

Bet on it.

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Good luck with that, especially #3.

Mandate is now a tax. 51, not 60, votes are needed in the Senate.

sentinelrules on June 29, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Have you noticed that Obama and his gang are saying your rewrite is wrong, that the mandate is not a tax, and that your opinion means nothing, other than that they won? They likely think you were a useful fool.

farsighted on June 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Farsighted indeed.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Great post Erika. I agree with every word.

MTF on June 29, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Yep, most don;t understand that #3 is KEY, no way around it, GOP Resident or not since I can bet heavily that one way or another Des will find a way around reconciliation.

Bet on it.

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I think they will just simply ignore the “Tax” aspect of it. They’ll say it was upheld, and taxes have nothing to do with it. Just that simple.

All they have to do is run out the clock.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:58 PM

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Well then …looks like we have a lot of work to do, my friend.

It appears to me that Chief Justice Roberts has given us all a challenge …to which I gladly accept.

The Ugly American on June 29, 2012 at 3:58 PM

And that was his goal all along, I believe. He doesn’t want the Court to trump the democratic process or become a “court of last resort” for the losing party in a political battle. He found a way not to have to do that.

rockmom on June 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

He didn’t have to create a precedent and empower the taxing clause. Worse, he seems to have gutted the taxing clause because he can’t put this tax into a specific bucket, instead saying ‘labels don’t matter’.

What taxing power does this fall under? It isn’t an income or excise tax, which must mean it’s a direct tax…and those have VERY specific requirements.

His argument is self-defeating, which is why he didn’t address the issue of what kind of tax this is.

blindside on June 29, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.

This passage just burns me. He sits there and lectures us on what his authority is, while at the exact same time exerting the very authority he claims the Court does not possess. Absolute double-speak, and utterly transparent to boot.

Justice Roberts, it most certainly IS the Court’s job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices when those choices result in unconstitutional outcomes. It is not your job to reinterpret the language of a law to say something that is does not explicitly say in order to give it a veneer of constitutionality.

The chutzpah is strong in this one.

holygoat on June 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I think they will just simply ignore the “Tax” aspect of it. They’ll say it was upheld, and taxes have nothing to do with it. Just that simple.

All they have to do is run out the clock.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 3:58 PM

That’s about it. Roberts opinion that the mandate is a tax is his and his alone. It has no binding legal value.

But if — a big but and if — President Romney with a GOP Senate and House try to treat it as a tax they may be able to repeal Obamacare through reconciliation. The Dems would challenge it and it would eventually go before SCOTUS. In that case Roberts should, theoretically, side with the conservative block and uphold the repeal.

However, that would take a couple of years and that clock the Dems are trying to run out will keep on ticking.

farsighted on June 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Paul Ryan is wrong, we do not have a chance ..or a prayer.
Even if we have elections,
even if Hussein loses in that election,
Hussein will challenge the results in the SCOTUS
and Obama-girl Roberts will fix it for Hussein !!
And then when we will challenge his fix-it….oh we can’t do that :-(

burrata on June 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Okay. You go into the fetal position under your bed and maybe we’ll remember to tell you it’s safe to come out after we do the heavy lifting and work required to fix this.

Thanks.

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 4:08 PM

And they should use it to save themselves and the future of the country voting for Gary Johnson, the only candidate on the ballot in November that didn’t invent Obamacare.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Not sure why, but this is starting to become very funny.

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM

At the end of the day, it is absolutely true that we did this to ourselves. As the years have worn on, we’ve consistently demonstrated a prevailing penchant for electing people into office who do little to safeguard our personal freedom and responsibility. Instead, we reward politicians for signing more ‘free’ stuff into law and sending home as much pork as possible. If we don’t stop living in our little bubbles of willful ignorance and summon the political will to reverse the bacchanalian frenzy of entitlement spending and big government, America’s best days really are behind us — and it’ll be nobody’s fault but our own.

Bravo!

novaculus on June 29, 2012 at 4:15 PM

No Mr. Ryan, it is you and the rest of the GOP’S last chance.

If ya’ll do not do what you are promising, the GOP will be gone. We have had it with all talk and no action!

Barred on June 29, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Not sure why, but this is starting to become very funny.

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Spam is never funny.

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2012 at 4:17 PM

I have come nearly to the conclusion, at least the strong working idea, that C.J. Roberts has done the best subversion that a conservative Catholic could. His decision has ignited the fuse that will blow up the Progressive House of Parliament. This is the best thing that could have ever happened to the Conservative movement and the Tea Party. It was our Battle of Philadelphia.

These thoughts have led me to believe that cynicism and idealism are not mutually exclusive. Maybe John did this on purpose to save America.

One can Hope.

321mdl on June 29, 2012 at 4:17 PM

But if — a big but and if — President Romney with a GOP Senate and House try to treat it as a tax they may be able to repeal Obamacare through reconciliation. The Dems would challenge it and it would eventually go before SCOTUS. In that case Roberts should, theoretically, side with the conservative block and uphold the repeal.

However, that would take a couple of years and that clock the Dems are trying to run out will keep on ticking.

farsighted on June 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I’ll go ya one better in this scenario. If, your if becomes true, there is no reason why Romney and the Republicans can not only repeal this crapsandwitch, they can, (with complete control of legislature, and the purse), continue right on with a REAL Healthcare reform bill that knocks the industry and the lawyers right out of their liberal shelters. All the while, Romney and the Republicans can tell the Obama-lovers and all the liberals—”the clock is now ours”, because “WE WON”!

Rovin on June 29, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Maybe John did this on purpose to save America.

One can Hope.

321mdl on June 29, 2012 at 4:17 PM

If he did he chose a very peculiar, complicated, and unreliable method while rejecting a very simple, easy, direct, effective, and reliable one.

This reminds me of a Churchill quote. After getting tossed as PM shortly after VE day Churchill’s wife told him it may be a blessing in disguise. To which he replied… “If this is a blessing, it is certainly very well disguised.”

farsighted on June 29, 2012 at 4:25 PM

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