New RNC ad: ObamaCare is a tax

posted at 9:21 am on June 29, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

It didn’t take long for the RNC to take advantage of the obvious political opening from yesterday’s Supreme Court decision.  They released a new one-minute spot intended for television that shows all of the denials from Barack Obama and other Democrats that ObamaCare was a tax, and reminds everyone that the Court now confirms that Obama broke his promise to the middle class — and lied about it:

This is probably the best attack that Republicans and Mitt Romney can muster from yesterday’s defeat — and it’s likely to be effective.  Whatever boost Obama gets politically from prevailing at the Court will dissipate when people start associating his two-year-long project with a massive tax increase (which it is, to the tune of $1.7 trillion over ten years, according to the CBO).  The RNC doesn’t mention another point in this ad, although I’ll bet they do in later spots: when Americans left the workforce by the millions in despair over a lack of job creation in 2009 and 2010, Barack Obama spent his time focused not on job creation but on raising taxes on the middle class.

I’d expect a lot more of this over the next few weeks, and not just from the RNC and Team Romney.  Here’s a new graphic from Reason, via Power Line:


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Tuck the Tax!

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 9:22 AM

…angrymike

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM

….Georgie S..wears panties!

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Passed off as a tax by a guy on SCOTUS the GOP told us to trust…

Accomplices? Where’s that ad?

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM

It’s go time, ya’ll.

tdpwells on June 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM

…when JugEars is done wearing them…he gives them to Georgie…but not the lace ones…

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM

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1) Witty and Charming
2) Rich and Powerful
3) Benevolent
4) Clairvoyant
5) Fuck Dinner
6) Patriotic
*7) Crank Up the Enola Gay
8) Witty and Charming, Part II
9) Invisible
10) Bulletproof

PatriotRider on June 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Good ad

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:26 AM

November 6th is OUR time.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 9:26 AM

If you think health care is expensive now just wait until you can only get it from the government.

And you pay for those who won’t work hard enough to pay for theirs or who just pay the penalty and rack up a 100k bill.

Say you pay twice what you pay now, now that your employer doesn’t pick that part up, say a thousand a month, that’s twelve K a year, who pays when you have a 100K bill?

The answer is, you do, as the bills go up and the reserve pool is drained by you, the bureaucrats, the politicians, the crony payoffs and kickbacks, somebody has to keep kicking in a little more and a little more, sound familiar?

Think of it as everyone’s on COBRA but that’s not enough.

Speakup on June 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM

LOL the new ad. Nothing changes. Vote GOP-no new taxes but all gthe benefits tghe commies gave you. Vote dem commie and get all the benefits plus new ones plus rob the workers and the rich.

bgibbs1000 on June 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM

I am so grateful to the GOP for being on top of this.

Mr. Arkadin on June 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Yeah buddy! We are gonna wear this record out between now and November.

dczombie on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Weak, transparent rebuttal. All we need is to wheel out some sick kids and old women in ads and have them say the GOP wants us to die and we’ll be good.

Obama/Roberts ’12!

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

It’s a tax!

Ha ha. Love it.

gwelf on June 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM

The RNC has been doing a much better more focused job since Michael Steele has exited so theres that.

ldbgcoleman on June 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Weak, transparent rebuttal. All we need is to wheel out some sick kids and old women in ads and have them say the GOP wants us to die and we’ll be good.

Obama/Roberts ’12!

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Thank you, Goebbels.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Make them own it.
McCaskill
Manchin
Tester
Casey
Nelson
Cantwell
Menendez
Brown (Ohio)
Obama

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Typical GOP small-mindedness. All they’re interested in is playing the game.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

David Gregory just stated the public has the attention span of a june bug and all the Obama administration has to do is scream “Forward!” and “Move On” (again) and sell all the goodies in it, stating the Republicans want to take away the goodies. He was right.

And Rush was right when stating before the Congressional vote way back when that once you pass a massive Government program is is impossible to repeal the whole thing later. The Supreme Court was the final battle. We lost. Roberts voting with Alito and Scalia and Thomas and Kennedy could have been a great victory for gov overreach.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Typical GOP small-mindedness. All they’re interested in is playing the game.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Ron Paul lost.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Weak, transparent rebuttal. All we need is to wheel out some sick kids and old women in ads and have them say the GOP wants us to die and we’ll be good.

Obama/Roberts ’12!

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

You forgot to mention the foot and tonsil rustling doctors who are out to cut you for a profit.

That didn’t work when Democrats were first pushing the bill. The bill has never been popular despite the liberals best efforts to make it about granny and the children (the same granny that Obama said in a townhall meeting may need to accept the federal bureaucracies decision to take pain pills instead of getting treated).
The bill passed because of all the kickbacks to buy off senators.

gwelf on June 29, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Weak, transparent rebuttal. All we need is to wheel out some sick kids and old women in ads and have them say the GOP wants us to die and we’ll be good.

Obama/Roberts ’12!

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

It is weak. Instead of pursuing Constitutional, limited government arguments, let’s just point a finger and say, “he broke a promise!” It’s so juvenile and irrelevant.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Good!

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2012 at 9:32 AM

And Rush was right when stating before the Congressional vote way back when that once you pass a massive Government program is is impossible to repeal the whole thing later. The Supreme Court was the final battle. We lost. Roberts voting with Alito and Scalia and Thomas and Kennedy could have been a great victory for gov overreach.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

The Supreme Court is not the final battle. The people have the right to nullification; however, you won’t hear the establishment-types arguing for it.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Perhaps the timing of all of this is divine intervention. Since liberals are embracing the term ObamaCare, it is certainly a perfect time to switch it up on them and relabel this mess ObamaTax. Who said it first though? First time I heard ObamaTax was from Mark Levin last night.

NotCoach on June 29, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Cool Akbar pic. Wouldn’t be surprised if Obama actually tried to recreate the Rebel Alliance insignia with his own logo.

Go RBNY on June 29, 2012 at 9:33 AM

The Supreme Court is not the final battle. The people have the right to nullification; however, you won’t hear the establishment-types arguing for it.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:33 AM

November 6, 2012. Save the Date.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

It worked in 2010.

NotCoach on June 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Obama lied, and gave us the largest tax increase in US history

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Great ad.
Also, I just LOVE Stuart Varney.

redridinghood on June 29, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Weak, transparent rebuttal. All we need is to wheel out some sick kids and old women in ads and have them say the GOP wants us to die and we’ll be good.

Obama/Roberts ’12!

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

They (you) tried that in 2010. Didn’t work out so well.

Obamacare sucks so much, even California hates it.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=fba8cc3f-0bbd-48da-a99d-754e5520765c&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

sentinelrules on June 29, 2012 at 9:35 AM

before the day is out the dems will be saying the court was wrong on calling it a tax. they’ll say it was right to uphold of course but that it still isnt a tax. the RNC needs to keep hammering that no matter what you call it it means less money in our pockets.

chasdal on June 29, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Obama lied. Freedom died.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 9:35 AM

November 6, 2012. Save the Date.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Why?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

It is weak. Instead of pursuing Constitutional, limited government arguments, let’s just point a finger and say, “he broke a promise!” It’s so juvenile and irrelevant.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Pursue a Constitutional argument, after it was just declared to be constitutional? Besides, it’s a political ad, not a treatise on libertarianism or whatever.

changer1701 on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

The Supreme Court is not the final battle. The people have the right to nullification

Well, gee, right. Maybe 40-50 years later. Happy 39th birthday, Roe v. Wade!

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

This is good. Get people to accept this as a tax increase and who is to blame. It’s the first step in framing the debate.

Howcome on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

David Gregory just stated the public has the attention span of a june bug and all the Obama administration has to do is scream “Forward!” and “Move On” (again) and sell all the goodies in it, stating the Republicans want to take away the goodies. He was right.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

How is he right? Obamacare was signed into law in late March 2010. One(and only one) poll showed a spike in support in the immediate aftermath of its passage and the Democrat/media complex jumped all over it thinking they’d gotten over the biggest hurdle.

Then the polls cratered again, a majority of people continued to hate the bill, Dems out on the campaign trail wanted to pretend it never happened, and 7 1/2 months later the party got shellacked in the midterms and bot the local and federal level.

If the public was engaged for 7 1/2 months in 2010, why does Gregory or anyone else not believe we can’t remember this ruling a mere 4 months and 8 days from now?

Doughboy on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Says at the end “Today Democrats are celebrating”. Can’t wait to see clips of individual Democrat gloating it up over Obamatax appearing in ads all over the country.

Only the savvy ones stayed away from cameras yesterday.

forest on June 29, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Taxes – the real original intent!

Don L on June 29, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Wisconsin folks…

And we saw a repeat there recently and..
2010 still lives today..

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM

go for the jugular

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM

We’re fine with dead Mexicans, so why would we care about fat cat taxpayers?
 
- inthemiddle

rogerb on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

The Supreme Court is not the final battle. The people have the right to nullification

Well, gee, right. Maybe 40-50 years later. Happy 39th birthday, Roe v. Wade!

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Amen! Happy emanations from penumbras democracy folks!

Don L on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

The Dems are still claiming the tax increase will only effect people making more than $250,000.

Can we get some clarity on this? Who exactly is going to be getting their taxes raised?

VinceOfDoom on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

For the next 4+ months we need to scream TAX! at the top of our lungs from every street corner and mountaintop and not stop until the Dooms are all kicked out of office on November 6 and we can start picking up the pieces and put this thing back together the right way.

stukinIL4now on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Pyrrhic victory – phrase of the day.

tdpwells on June 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Doughboy on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Because Republicans argued it was un-Constitutional! Why do you think it was fast-tracked through the Supreme Court?!!!

Over.

As I pointed out above, Roe v. Wade hasn’t been “repealed” in 39 years. ObamaCare will not be repealed and the numbers will just show an EVENLY divided public.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM

It’s only weak if the GOP and Team Romney just do this as a one-shot or two-shot ad and ignore following up on it. The one bright spot from this ruling is it has given the Republicans the biggest opening to hammer the Democrats as the ‘Tax and Spend Party‘ since Walter Mondale opened his mouth at the 1984 DNC Convention and told America he was going to run as the Tax and Spend Candidate.

If Obama wants Roberts’ ruling, Obama has to take Roberts’ definition of ObamaCare not as a mandate or a benefit, but as a tax. But no one in the Democratic Party or from the regular big media outlets is going to mention the ‘tax’ part of the ruling after about noon today for the remainder of the campaign if they can help it. That’s why though the ruling gives Mitt and his handlers a new line of attack, they are going to have to be so relentless in it between now and Nov. 6 that, like the Swift Boat veterans attacks on John Kerry’s record, it gets to the point that the big media can’t avoid the ‘ObamaCare=Biggest Tax Hike In World History‘ connection.

jon1979 on June 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM

I’d much rather hear a new RNC ad saying “Obamacare is dead, now let’s fix the economy”.

Thanks Justice Roberts. Not only did you join the liberal justices in your dissent, you put a stranglehold on the economy for another four months.

My retirement fund thanks you, putz.

fogw on June 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM

The Dems are still claiming the tax increase will only effect people making more than $250,000.

Can we get some clarity on this? Who exactly is going to be getting their taxes raised?

VinceOfDoom on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

That wouldn’t work..
there aren’t enough people making 250,000+ that could pay for the middle class not signing up…

Electrongod on June 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Weak, transparent rebuttal. All we need is to wheel out some sick kids and old women in ads and have them say the GOP wants us to die and we’ll be good.

Obama/Roberts ’12!

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Oh I’d love that! Then we can point out that Obamacare is funded by taking money from Medicare. Then we can point out all those waivers given to cronies of Obama’s. Want to hear more?

Deanna on June 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM

go for the jugular

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM

And don’t let up. Ever. Show the Dems the same mercy they showed us when they passed this monstrosity.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Pursue a Constitutional argument, after it was just declared to be constitutional? Besides, it’s a political ad, not a treatise on libertarianism or whatever.

changer1701 on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Yeessss, just because the court says it is Constitutional doesn’t make it so. The sovereign people are the arbiter of what is Constitutional or not. Jefferson argued against the Supreme Court determining the Constitutionality of law. You think whatever SCOTUS says goes? You think there isn’t a Constitutional issue here?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM

LOL the new ad. Nothing changes. Vote GOP-no new taxes but all gthe benefits tghe commies gave you. Vote dem commie and get all the benefits plus new ones plus rob the workers and the rich.

bgibbs1000 on June 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Mitt’s people are coming for you with rolled up newspapers, pal. You better make a run for it.

ElectricPhase on June 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Excellent. The other major line of attack that I think needs to be taken up is how many hundreds of billions of dollars Obamacare cuts out of the Medicare budget. It’s something like 500 billion dollars. Let the Democrats try to lie to the elderly about how Romney wants to end Medicare when they passed a law cutting half a trillion dollars out Medicare themselves.

eyedoc on June 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Let’s face it, the Pug establishment loves Robertscare®. This will drop from their campaign mantra like a rock in a couple of days. Bank on it.

Mr. Arrogant on June 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Because Republicans argued it was un-Constitutional! Why do you think it was fast-tracked through the Supreme Court?!!!

Over.

As I pointed out above, Roe v. Wade hasn’t been “repealed” in 39 years. ObamaCare will not be repealed and the numbers will just show an EVENLY divided public.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM

How can you compare Obamacare to Roe v. Wade? Roe v. Wade gave women the choice to abort their babies. We can sit here to the end of time(and probably will) arguing over how those fetuses are denied a choice, but bottom line is they can’t vote, so the Democrat Party doesn’t give a damn about them.

Obamacare isn’t a choice. It’s a law imposed over living man, woman, and child in this nation affecting their health care. Whether they’re rich, poor, young, or old, this law is going to impact their lives, and in almost every circumstance, it’ll be a negative effect.

The reason it still gets around 35-40% support in most polls is that it hasn’t been fully implemented yet. If you think it’s still gonna be rating that highly with the electorate in a year or two, I have some Solyndra stock to sell you.

Doughboy on June 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM

The Dems are still claiming the tax increase will only effect people making more than $250,000.

Can we get some clarity on this? Who exactly is going to be getting their taxes raised?

VinceOfDoom on June 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

That’s easy enough to deal with. 12 out the 21 new taxes in Obamacare hit people who make less than $250,000. Specifying which ones should hardly be a problem.

eyedoc on June 29, 2012 at 9:47 AM

It’s so juvenile and irrelevant.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Dante: The man of maturity and relevancy :)

thebrokenrattle on June 29, 2012 at 9:48 AM

What’s “inthemiddle” in the middle of? An Obama Biden sandwich?

wargamer6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

They have to keep pounding on the fat that this is a tax. I think Roberts was brilliant. He basically shove a poison pill down the throat of this bill. It’s a tax. I 1.7 TRILLION dollar tax on the very people it was supposed to help. The ‘rats have been caught in a huge Bait and Switch. They should get HAMMERED in November!!!!!

HomeoftheBrave on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Why?

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Quit sniveling. Dr. Paul lost.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 9:50 AM

I see Dante’s taking a break from dry humping his Ron Paul standee.

wargamer6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:50 AM

***

As I pointed out above, Roe v. Wade hasn’t been “repealed” in 39 years. ObamaCare will not be repealed and the numbers will just show an EVENLY divided public.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Yes, an evenly divided public: a public divided between those paying for Obamacare and those benefiting from it.

BuckeyeSam on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Geez, too early – need coffee….

fat = fact
shove = shoved
:(

HomeoftheBrave on June 29, 2012 at 9:51 AM

RNC also needs to make hay with the fact that Obumbler has just said to the people of America, YOU WILL give YOUR money to the 1% BIG corporations or I WILL TAX you and or ELSE and SCOTUS agreed with me that YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS I DON”T ALLOW YOU!

smitty41 on June 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Makes me think of “To Serve Man“.

aunursa on June 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Refresh my memory . . . . was the tax tied to upwards of 3000 ‘medical devices’ (of which things like dentures and tampons were included) still part of the bill, or was that axed during it’s umpteen incarnations before final passage?

tdpwells on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

As I pointed out above, Roe v. Wade hasn’t been “repealed” in 39 years. ObamaCare will not be repealed and the numbers will just show an EVENLY divided public.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM

First, the public is not even close to being evenly split on Obamacare. Second, repealing Obamacare doesn’t require the Supreme Court while repealing Roe v Wade does, so your argument doesn’t hold water at all.

eyedoc on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Weak, transparent rebuttal. All we need is to wheel out some sick kids and old women in ads and have them say the GOP wants us to die and we’ll be good.

Obama/Roberts ’12!

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

there are people on this website who are on the Left,
who I fundamentally disagree with on ideology. We will
never agree, BUT I do respect their posts. Why?
Because they have a screen name that identiies their ideology,
or at least does not try to be deceptive.
You have a screen name that does not match your far Left ideology,
Your attempts at deception are pathetic. You are a vast
suppository of nothingness but childish behavior.

Good luck in Life, you need it.

ToddPA on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

What’s “inthemiddle” in the middle of? An Obama Biden sandwich?

wargamer6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

inthemiddle resides in the lower space between two abutting cheeks.

BKennedy on June 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM

What’s “inthemiddle” in the middle of? An Obama Biden sandwich?

wargamer6 on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Electroshock therapy.

eyedoc on June 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Does anyone know exactly how this tax works? Say if I have a family of 4, and we do not want insurance on 2 of us. For the sake of argument, let’s say my wife and baby receive health insurance from her teaching job, but my 14 year-old son and I are both very healthy and choose not to have insurance.

Do I have to pay 2.5% for each one of us opting out or does 2.5% cover anyone in the family? Is it only calculated against my income or is it our combined AGI?

If the worst case scenario rules, the tax would be $7500 per year. No clue how expensive the insurance will be in the exchange, so no idea how punitive this is. Right now, I pay $2268 per year for a high deductible plan that is soon to be illegal.

Or is this one of those “the secretary shall determine” things?

Maybe it is time to stop being self-employed. Fascism Lite sure is grand!

stvnscott on June 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM

HomeoftheBrave on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Roberts could have mad the same claim while defeating it. He legislated from the bench, he made new law that wasn’t precedented, he failed to uphold precedent (If it is a tax the court doesn’t have standing to hear the case Anti Injunction Act) if it’s a tax it needs to be originated in the HOR not the Senate as this (Reid’s version)and surely not at SCOTUS.

smitty41 on June 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Any ad along these lines needs to have Nancy Pelosi shown gloating and prancing around the Capital proclaiming how this is all so good for the American people and all the other garbage and rubbish she was expounding on yesterday.

pilamaye on June 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM

And Rush was right when stating before the Congressional vote way back when that once you pass a massive Government program is is impossible to repeal the whole thing later.

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Rush is right on this without a doubt. Call me cynical but Rush’s statement is also moot at this point because even before Obamacare, all the well established entitlement programs have us headed for fiscal disaster. Maybe Obamacare just gets us there faster. I sincerely and perhaps naively want to believe that this will lead to the collapse of the socialist ideology of the Democrat Party. I believe that amorality is an inherent quality of the Democratic Party because the dehumanizing institutions of both slavery and abortion have found a very comfortable existence among the Democratic Party during our history. I think the ultimate responsibility for good government in the United States resides with the people. There is no valid reason that Obama should have been elected president of this country except a very gullible electorate. Things are going to change one way or another. Rough times are ahead with or withour public engagement.

DaveDief on June 29, 2012 at 9:58 AM

transparent

inthemiddle on June 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM

You don’t even know the meaning of the word.

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Marcus on June 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM

roe v wade takes an amendment to overturn, obamacare has a much lower bar.

chasdal on June 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

mad = made , sorry need coffee too ;))

smitty41 on June 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Typical GOP small-mindedness. All they’re interested in is playing the game.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Did Cindy Sheehan bring you your coffee in bed this morning, Lew?

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM

This Roberts tax decision has more spandex than my bathing suit, more than Shrillary’s pantsuit, more than Piglosi’s face, and more than Moochelle’s wide belt. Roberts flipped all of We the People off yesterday with his only out being vote ‘em out if you don’t like the laws they pass. The damage is done and can’t be reversed.

Kissmygrits on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM

juvenile and irrelevant.

Dante on June 29, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Expert on same checks in.

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 10:01 AM

All the Trolls are gone. Must be time for Axlerod’s daily breifing.

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM

They have to keep pounding on the fat that this is a tax. I think Roberts was brilliant. He basically shove a poison pill down the throat of this bill. It’s a tax. I 1.7 TRILLION dollar tax on the very people it was supposed to help. The ‘rats have been caught in a huge Bait and Switch. They should get HAMMERED in November!!!!!

HomeoftheBrave on June 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

The trouble with this is that these people won’t know anything about what it will cost them for several more years. The medicaid thing is a poison pill. But it will be too late.

Call it a tax. Call it a mandate. It’s the same load of crap. What Roberts did is to write legislation that didn’t even exist. Too clever by one-and-a-half.

That is what the Republican commercial should be saying. “It’s just a total load of crap.”

One Supreme Court Justice calls it a tax. The Congress did not. The other 8 judges did not.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Now, make tailor made spots specific to seniors and the 20′s something demographics and be relentless with it.

diogenes on June 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM

I believe we have 25 days to request a rehearing (although almost never granted) I think there are several legal positions with which to make this request. Besides the 2 above, the merits of this being a tax were never really argued. It was only postulated as a tax in the early FL case by the Gov’t to have the case tossed because of the AIA but those were dismissed by the court. If it is a tax the court can’t hear the case and the Congress should write a bill that is a tax and then the merits of whether or not you can tax an inactivity could be addressed, this ruling is so bad it confounds the mind

smitty41 on June 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM

This Roberts tax decision has more spandex than my bathing suit, …

Kissmygrits on June 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Well. So much for breakfast. Just lost my appetite.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Refresh my memory . . . . was the tax tied to upwards of 3000 ‘medical devices’ (of which things like dentures and tampons were included) still part of the bill, or was that axed during it’s umpteen incarnations before final passage?

tdpwells on June 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

It goes into effect Jan. 1, 2013. Congress is already considering repealing it due to lobbying by the medical device industry.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I cant wait until I finish my doctorate and get to hang a sign on my front window informing patients on medicare/medicaid that they will have to go get in line somewhere else. I will not get screwed in billing and taxes…Obama’s war on the poor has begun!

How many fewer doctors will there be when this goes into full effect? A: More than I like to think about.

How many fewer doctors taking medicare/medicaid?
A: More than the fools who vote Dem understand…so short sighted…

airmonkey on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Does anyone know exactly how this tax works? Say if I have a family of 4, and we do not want insurance on 2 of us. For the sake of argument, let’s say my wife and baby receive health insurance from her teaching job, but my 14 year-old son and I are both very healthy and choose not to have insurance.

Do I have to pay 2.5% for each one of us opting out or does 2.5% cover anyone in the family? Is it only calculated against my income or is it our combined AGI?

If the worst case scenario rules, the tax would be $7500 per year. No clue how expensive the insurance will be in the exchange, so no idea how punitive this is. Right now, I pay $2268 per year for a high deductible plan that is soon to be illegal.

Or is this one of those “the secretary shall determine” things?

Maybe it is time to stop being self-employed. Fascism Lite sure is grand!

stvnscott on June 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Okay here goes. As I understand it you would have to pay the tax for both you and your son. There isn’t an age minimum, it simply states citizen. I think it does set a minimum of $695 per person or 2.5% whichever is greater. Unfortunately even your state opting out won’t help you much since that will affect only those who would have qualified for the Medicaid expansion. As for the costs in the exchanges, sorry can’t help you there.

Deanna on June 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM

It goes into effect Jan. 1, 2013. Congress is already considering repealing it due to lobbying by the medical device industry.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM

That’s what I thought – thanks. :)

tdpwells on June 29, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Obama’s signature legislation is a tax enacted during the middle of the Great Recession. Lather Rinse Repeat.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Dante: The man of maturity and relevancy :)

thebrokenrattle on June 29, 2012 at 9:48 AM

He reminds me of the guys who call our radio station from time to time berating us because our web streaming doesn’t work on their homebrew version of Linux.

CurtZHP on June 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM

If it looks like a tax, walks like a tax, and quacks like a tax… it’s a tax.

One good thing out of this: since it’s a tax, the Senate Dems can’t filibuster a repeal. The GOP can use the Reconciliation Process to repeal it with 51 votes just as it was used to stuff it down our throats.

Dexter_Alarius on June 29, 2012 at 10:09 AM

How many fewer doctors will there be when this goes into full effect? A: More than I like to think about.

How many fewer doctors taking medicare/medicaid?
A: More than the fools who vote Dem understand…so short sighted…

airmonkey on June 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM

It is worse than you know. The trend is accelerating for hospitals and insurance companies towards what they call virtical integration. That means buying doctors practices wholesale. Gone are the days when you could find a doctor in solo practice who could treat you like a patient that was a person. Now the doctors will be employees whose bosses will only see the bottom line, i.e. profits and who will unionize for better working conditions etc.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 10:11 AM

It is worse than you know. The trend is accelerating for hospitals and insurance companies towards what they call virtical integration. That means buying doctors practices wholesale. Gone are the days when you could find a doctor in solo practice who could treat you like a patient that was a person. Now the doctors will be employees whose bosses will only see the bottom line, i.e. profits and who will unionize for better working conditions etc.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 10:11 AM

And I meant to add, this trend is driven in large part by ObamaCare.

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 10:13 AM

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