Justice Department: Don’t look at us to prosecute Holder

posted at 4:41 pm on June 29, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

We already pretty much knew this was going to happen — Eric Holder is the chief of the Justice Department, for goodness’ sake, it definitely would’ve qualified as a conflict of interest. But, the DOJ went ahead and made it official today, saying that they will not move to prosecute Holder after the House of Reps voted to hold him in criminal contempt of Congress on Thursday:

The contempt vote technically opens the door for the House to call on the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia to bring the case against Holder before a grand jury. But because U.S. Attorney Ronald Machen works for Holder and because President Obama has already asserted executive privilege over the documents in question, it was expected Holder’s Justice Department would not take that step.

Deputy Attorney General James Cole confirmed in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner that the department in fact would not pursue prosecution. The attorney general’s withholding of documents pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, he wrote, “does not constitute a crime.”

“Therefore the department will not bring the congressional contempt citation before a grand jury or take any other action to prosecute the attorney general,” Cole wrote, in the letter obtained by Fox News.

Good thing the House also voted yesterday to hold the attorney general in civil contempt, which allows them to hire their own counsel and take the case to civil court to seek an order that would require the Obama administration to release the long sought-after documents. If the civil court invalidates Obama’s executive privilege order, criminal proceedings could still be on the table. And if the Obama administration still refused to comply, that’s when impeachment would become a possibility — although I’m convinced that the Oversight Committee would really just rather that they hand over the darn documents already before things get that far. Once again — what are those Justice officials working so hard to hide?

If the House had really wanted to throw some serious weight around, they could’ve exercised their Constitutional option to actually arrest the attorney general, but it’s become kind of a tradition that everybody restrain themselves. Bit of a shame that’s not in Congressional fashion anymore. …Er, cough, I mean… That would be unseemly. Yes.

Despite voting to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt of Congress, there’s little House Republicans can do in the short term to compel him to turn over documents — unless it wanted to revisit a long-dormant power and arrest him. …

“The House is scared to death to use the inherent contempt power,” said Mort Rosenberg, a fellow at the Constitution Project and author of “When Congress Comes Calling.” “They’re scared to death because the courts have said … the way the contempt power is used is unseemly. It’s not that it’s unconstitutional, because it’s been upheld by four Supreme Court decisions, but unseemly to have somebody go arrest the attorney general.”

That’s why it’s been more than 75 years since either chamber has used the option though it used to be somewhat common.

 


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Well, duh. That’s why they did a civil contempt, too.

The Rogue Tomato on June 29, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Yes, we like to hit ourselves in the face with a hammer.

IOW – no sh!t Sherlock.

kim roy on June 29, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Just another example of Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Drained Brain on June 29, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Too busy concentrating on MF Global.

cough

JeremiahJohnson on June 29, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Precedent will come back to haunt.

Reconciliation indeed.

FlaMurph on June 29, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Issa needs to send Josh Randall after Holder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUROZEmC1WQ&feature=related

VorDaj on June 29, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Fine Holder 50K per day until he comes clean.

Kuffar on June 29, 2012 at 4:47 PM

NOVEMBER!

hpk1942 on June 29, 2012 at 4:47 PM

If they find what i think they will eventually find, Holder may get to revisit the prosecution of a US Attorney. He will almost certainly have issues with the world court.

aniptofar on June 29, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Crooks run the Circus, with Obama the Cash for Clunkers driver…

Mexicans, Obama hates you, dead or alive.

Wake up fools – he only wants your votes.

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2012 at 4:49 PM

In the letter, Issa claimed the affidavit contained “clear information that agents were willfully allowing known straw buyers to acquire firearms for drug cartels and failing to interdict them — in some cases even allowing them to walk to Mexico.”

Yesterday the leftists lied their heads off in congress.

Pelosi and group walked straight into the cameras. May she fly away on her hammer, in the blue suit.

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Dick Nixon, rolling over, wonders what happened in just 40 years.

FlaMurph on June 29, 2012 at 4:51 PM

It is racist to hold Holder and Obama to a lower standard than all the other presidents and AGs.

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2012 at 4:52 PM

If not arrest him, then fine the crap out of him. Although, Holder would probably find a way to use taxpayer money to pay it.

Unseemly or not, arrest him! If it was anyone else, they would be arrested. Our forefathers weren’t gauche when they exercised their congressional authority to arrest, they were smart enough to know that nobody is above the law.

Slainte on June 29, 2012 at 4:52 PM

onto civil court….

go get’em boys

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Obama and Holder have killed hundreds of Mexicans and that’s just the count from the guns they ran that were recovered, which is probably only a very small percentage of the increasing total number of Mexican civilians murdered. They have committed a slow motion, and continuing, 9/11 against Mexican civilians and need to be called to account for their mass murders most foul and punished for their capital crimes. I can not fathom how any self-respecting person of Mexican heritage in the United States could possible vote for Obama in 2012. It would be like any American voting for OBL for President.

VorDaj on June 29, 2012 at 4:55 PM

That’s why it’s been more than 75 years since either chamber has used the option though it used to be somewhat common.

Why not use every bit of law at our disposal? It’s clear our opponents do, not only do they use every angle they can muster, they even go outside the law itself when it suits them, hence why we are even here in the first place.

GOP. Stop being weak, we are in a critical phase of our Nation, its time to get dirty and mean…quit thinking tea and crumpets!

Alinsky on June 29, 2012 at 4:55 PM

I wouldn’t true that bunch of crooks to investigate a candy machine break in at the mall.

rplat on June 29, 2012 at 4:55 PM

It is far more “unseemly” to have the highest enforcement official in the nation arrogantly violate a lawful demand by congress. He should be frog-marched forcing Obama (who certainly approved of this operation)into granting him a pardon – impeachable offense?

Don L on June 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM

When a court issues a civil injunction they’ll just give that court the middle finger as well

If they want to arrest him themselves they would have to send the Sergeant at Arms, He’s a retire secret service guy but he might have to fight through Holder’s new black panther bodyguard.

The House under Boehner will make such mess out of any impeachment process that they need to be scared.

This thing has to be used as political ammunition every day till Nov. 6 After that we let the Mexican Government know we will cooperate when they ask to extradite Holder and Obama. If they think Roberts was involved in F & F we’ll send him south too.

halfbaked on June 29, 2012 at 4:59 PM

This administration sucks. The end.

TXMomof3 on June 29, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Justice Department: Don’t look at us to prosecute Holder

…W H A C K !
We don’t prosecute anybody of color!
C R A C K E R !

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 5:00 PM

This has been quite a 24 hour peroid. We have a disfunctional government that’s for sure. We have a President that refuses to enforce laws and a SC that invents reasons to unhold laws. Between now and November should get real interesting.

whbates on June 29, 2012 at 5:01 PM

We don’t refer to 9/11 as a botched attempt by Muslims to land planes at JFK and Dulles.

VorDaj on June 29, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Fine Holder 50K per day until he comes clean.

Kuffar on June 29, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Do you mean Tax him?

torerodrizzle on June 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM

In the midst of a fiery floor debate over contempt proceedings for Attorney General Eric Holder, House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) quietly dropped a bombshell letter into the Congressional Record.

The May 24 letter to Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), ranking member on the panel, quotes from and describes in detail a secret wiretap application that has become a point of debate in the GOP’s “Fast and Furious” gun-walking probe.

The wiretap applications are under court seal, and releasing such information to the public would ordinarily be illegal. But Issa appears to be protected by the Speech or Debate Clause in the Constitution, which offers immunity for Congressional speech, especially on a chamber’s floor.

In Fast and Furious, agents for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed assault guns bought by “straw purchasers” to “walk,” which meant ending surveillance on weapons suspected to be en route to Mexican drug cartels.

The tactic, which was intended to allow agents to track criminal networks by finding the guns at crime scenes, was condemned after two guns that were part of the operation were found at U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder scene.

From the Congressional Record [Page: H4409]:

From the beginning, ATF was transparent about its strategy. An internal ATF briefing paper used in preparation for the OCDETF application process explained as much:

Currently our strategy is to allow the transfer of firearms to continue to take place, albeit at a much slower pace, in order to further the investigation and allow for the identification of co-conspirators who would continue to operate and illegally traffic firearms to Mexican DTOs which are perpetrating armed violence along the Southwest Border.

J_Crater on June 29, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Any guesses as to what Holder would have done if Obama had a son that looked like one of those dead mexicans ?

burrata on June 29, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Got to think that this is how they got the 20 or so Dem votes yesterday. And I’ve got to think that this is just the first step.

Put out some feelers. Let Holder lie. Drop the proof in front of Dems in Congress.

Put out some more feelers. Let Holder lie. Drop the proof in front of Dems in Congress.

Put out some feelers. Let Obama lie (“I’m not a crook”). Drop the proof in front of the whole world.

Hope the moles in the DOJ live through this.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Yes F and F was a well intention program by Obama and Holder that was just “botched” by underlings. Just as Hitler’s death camps were a botched but surely well intentioned ‘government program’ to employ millions of unemployed citizens.

VorDaj on June 29, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Interesting that they didn’t drag this out for a while at least since they are in Full Stall Mode.

And the tone of Cole’s letter is a bit, um… testy, isn’t it?

Are they starting to feel the heat?

When do they start looking at each other and wondering who is going to break ranks and be the first rat to flip?

The firstest rat usually gets the best deal… sometimes gets the only deal… and they all know it…

novaculus on June 29, 2012 at 5:07 PM

“U.S. Attorney for D.C., Ronald Manchen, Refuses to Hold Holder Accountable”

Machen, who is black, is a d-cRAT socialist fully in OBOZO’s pocket – On 23 December 2009, OBOZO nominated Machen to serve as the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia. Machen has donated $4350 (that has been disclosed so far) to OBOZO’s campaigns.

TeaPartyNation on June 29, 2012 at 5:07 PM

The tactic, which was intended to allow agents to track criminal networks by finding the guns at crime scenes, was condemned after two guns that were part of the operation were found at U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder scene.

J_Crater on June 29, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Who “finds” guns at crime scenes? Do the murderous drug gang thugs just drop each weapon they use for murder. Bad mojo in the weapon, so we’ll leave it behind?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Cut off their funding until they comply.

mkenorthshore on June 29, 2012 at 5:10 PM

“We don’t need no stinkin’ justice!. Who do you think we we are, ofays?!”

MaiDee on June 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM

The attorney general’s withholding of documents pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, he wrote, “does not constitute a crime.”

Obstruction of justice?

talkingpoints on June 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Once again — what are those Justice officials working so hard to hide?

Where is Kevin O’Reilly?

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 5:13 PM

The attorney general’s withholding of documents pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, he wrote, “does not constitute a crime.”

“Therefore the department will not bring the congressional contempt citation before a grand jury or take any other action to prosecute the attorney general,” Cole wrote, in the letter obtained by Fox News.

Translated into Simple English:

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Well done sir, well done.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 5:15 PM

He will almost certainly have issues with the world court.

aniptofar on June 29, 2012 at 4:48 PM

No, he’ll have to wait for the world court. lowereastside’s case against War Criminal Dick Cheney is next on their Docket!

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 5:15 PM

they could’ve exercised their Constitutional option to actually arrest the attorney general,

WHY NOT! Nancy was hot-to-trot to make an illegal arrest. What’s the problem with a LEGAL one?

Issa should go to civil court NOW!

As for the CBC – RACISTS! So much for ‘judging a man by his character, rather than the color of his skin’. MLK is rolling over in his grave!

GarandFan on June 29, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Racists!

kirkill on June 29, 2012 at 5:17 PM

ATF leader’s email could be Fast and Furious smoking gun and Holder admitted Obama can’t shield it

Darrell Issa Puts Details of Secret Wiretap Applications in Congressional Record

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 5:00 PM

I’d like to see one of the actual warrants that Rep. Issa has. If he came across one with the full detail signed by the moron Holder, that’s a nuclear weapon in Issa’s hands.

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Well done sir, well done.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Poor minds think alike!

crr6 on June 12, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Cut off their funding until they comply.

mkenorthshore on June 29, 2012 at 5:10 PM
This. They’re essentially worthless anyway.

Mr. Arrogant on June 29, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Its time for a patriotic hacker to liberate these documents.

magicbeans on June 29, 2012 at 5:20 PM

this is rich coming from holder….
just saw this on drudge

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Hey, Patrick Fitzgerald isn’t doing anything right now… Just a thought.

Fallon on June 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Well done sir, well done.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Poor minds think alike!

crr6 on June 12, 2011 at 4:22 PM
Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM

We Won!

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Hey, Patrick Fitzgerald isn’t doing anything right now… Just a thought.

Fallon on June 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM

No, he has to keep up his conjugal visits with Tony Rezko.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Who “finds” guns at crime scenes? Do the murderous drug gang thugs just drop each weapon they use for murder. Bad mojo in the weapon, so we’ll leave it behind?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I read somewhere that it is common for Mexican drug gangs to leave the guns, because in Mexico it is more trouble to be caught with them than it is to get another gun.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Rep Issa was on Sean Hannity’s radio show this afternoon and explained what they know is being withheld. Things like who authorized certain wiretaps. All leading to a level involvement at the highest levels long before any of these corrupt bastards claim they even knew of the program which, according to them, must have been established and funded by a rogue ATF agent in Phoenix without anybody else knowing about it.

Issa also mentioned that one of the documents they wanted was actually leaked by the DoJ to the the NYT this week. So Holder won’t release documents to the Congress but will allow them to get into the press. For this reason alone, I think that crimes have been committed.

Happy Nomad on June 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM

I read somewhere that it is common for Mexican drug gangs to leave the guns, because in Mexico it is more trouble to be caught with them than it is to get another gun.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM

No bashing you, but that makes no sense. If you get another gun, won’t you be caught with that one? Or do they get the gun in the alley on the way to the shoot-out?

Makes no sense at all.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

At least MSNBC has the story in their headlines on the web.
It’s not on CNN’s web page. Their lead is Tom and Katie are splitting up. Pathetic. And we wonder why people vote the way they do. The enemy is the media.

talkingpoints on June 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 5:21 PM

I was just about to post you post. It people don’t think bho/team does not have it out for TX and any other state that bucks them, you are mistaken? They did it to AZ and now TX! Look out other states, big bro is going after YOU!
L

letget on June 29, 2012 at 5:34 PM

I read somewhere that it is common for Mexican drug gangs to leave the guns, because in Mexico it is more trouble to be caught with them than it is to get another gun.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM

That and it is somewhat of a gang fashion faux pas to be seen with the same gun at more than crime scene. It’s like wearing white after Labor Day. ;0

Seriously, if guns are that much of an issue in Mexico, what the hell was our government doing arming the drug cartels without any mechanism to track the guns, without informing the Mexican government, without a clear plan of what they hoped to accomplish. These are the questions not answered by the selective release of documents that Rep. Issa is fighting against.

Happy Nomad on June 29, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Do the murderous drug gang thugs just drop each weapon they use for murder. Bad mojo in the weapon, so we’ll leave it behind?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

An incentive from those planning to find the weapons would do the trick, but that would prove conspiracy….just sayin’…. Yep, those documents must be pretty sensitive all right.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 5:36 PM

It’s not on CNN’s web page. Their lead is Tom and Katie are splitting up. Pathetic.

talkingpoints on June 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

The lack of F&F coverage or the breakup?

Look, this story is not going away. Holding the AG in contempt is a BFD. Trying the AG in civil court is a BFD (and was also predictable since nobody thought the US Attorney for DC was going to try his good pal and boss).

Happy Nomad on June 29, 2012 at 5:39 PM

No bashing you, but that makes no sense. If you get another gun, won’t you be caught with that one? Or do they get the gun in the alley on the way to the shoot-out?

Makes no sense at all.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

LOL- I don’t feel bashed, I was just telling you what I read somewhere. It seems like a pretty unfrugal practice to me. As to where they get the guns, I think they get them from us!

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Do the murderous drug gang thugs just drop each weapon they use for murder. Bad mojo in the weapon, so we’ll leave it behind?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM |

Watch The Godfather. Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

tru2tx on June 29, 2012 at 5:41 PM

An incentive from those planning to find the weapons would do the trick, but that would prove conspiracy….just sayin’….

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 5:36 PM

I’m just shocked! Shocked I tell ya!

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:41 PM

My question is if a new President is ellected, can the new AG convene a Grand Jury and go after him?

God Bless America!

paratisi on June 29, 2012 at 5:41 PM

No bashing you, but that makes no sense. If you get another gun, won’t you be caught with that one? Or do they get the gun in the alley on the way to the shoot-out?

Makes no sense at all.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

If I may jump in, they don’t want to get caught with a weapon which can be traced by ballistics to a murder recently committed in the vicinity. However if one follows this line a bit further, it suggests Holder et al were interested only in guns used in murders where bullets could be retrieved and not armed robberies, kidnappings, etc. IOW, the DOJ knew the kinds of crime scenes they needed had to involve murder, and they assisted in that.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM

That and it is somewhat of a gang fashion faux pas to be seen with the same gun at more than crime scene. It’s like wearing white after Labor Day. ;0

Happy Nomad on June 29, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Or like wearing the same thing to work two days in a row. It’s hard to live something like that down.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Does anyone think it’s possible that Obama, Holder, Napolitano and Hillary thought it was so certain that Obama would win in 2012, and that there would be a Dem majority in both houses, that they didn’t really care if they got caught?

It’s almost sure that the whole thing was pointed towards a 2nd amendment end run, but did they think that even if they got caught, they could bury it?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM

I need to clarify my last post a bit. Holder was mainly after serial numbers he could trace to point of purchase,…ballistics could help solve the crime, which of course didn’t interest him.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 5:47 PM

I need to clarify my last post a bit. Holder was mainly after serial numbers he could trace to point of purchase,…ballistics could help solve the crime, which of course didn’t interest him.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Yeah. ballistics. I’m sure the Mexican equivalent of the FBI is working on all of that as we speak.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I need to clarify my last post a bit. Holder was mainly after serial numbers he could trace to point of purchase,…ballistics could help solve the crime, which of course didn’t interest him.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Hence the whistle blower after agent Terry was murdered, right?

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Where are the State Dept. records on all of this stuff?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Hence the whistle blower after agent Terry was murdered, right?

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

There allegedly was a third F&F gun at the Terry murder scene. The FBI made it disappear. I believe that was documented by the CBS female reporter who has done outstanding work on this.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Where are the State Dept. records on all of this stuff?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Clinton: Justice Dept. didn’t seek State Dept.’s permission for “gunwalking” operation

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 6:01 PM

There allegedly was a third F&F gun at the Terry murder scene. The FBI made it disappear. I believe that was documented by the CBS female reporter who has done outstanding work on this.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 6:00 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Third Gun Linked to ‘Fast and Furious’ Identified at Border Agent’s Murder Scene

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Ignoring a subpoena isn’t a crime?

Boy, I’ll bet Roger Clemens wishes his laywer had told him THAT.

blindside on June 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Since the House initiated the creation of the Dept of Justice, maybe it’s time they sever it from the president’s cabinet and make it a separate agency to eliminate these incestuous political relationships. Let that cabinet spot be for legal representation of the President and the executive branch.

BTW, DOJ began operations on July 1, 1870, so it celebrates its 142nd birthday on Sunday.

stukinIL4now on June 29, 2012 at 6:07 PM

orange
jumpsuit

hillsoftx on June 29, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Clinton: Justice Dept. didn’t seek State Dept.’s permission for “gunwalking” operation

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 6:01 PM

BOMBSHELL.!

Mr Issa please proceed to prosecute Mr. Holder et al for violation of US Code ITAR (http://pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar_official.html ). To wit, transferring Arms across international borders without permission.

The brilliance here is that ITAR CAN be prosecuted INDIVIDUALLY CIVILLY(your company cannot shield you, and you cannot use the excuse that you were merely following orders), and FEDERALLY (breaking USCode). Also ANYONE at JUSTICE who heard or saw ANYTHING about guns going over the border is LIABLE. ANYONE, so round them all up and start asking questions.

Clintons statement is KEY, it looks like its PAYBACK TIME folks.
Lets hope so.

orbitalair on June 29, 2012 at 6:10 PM

I read somewhere that it is common for Mexican drug gangs to leave the guns, because in Mexico it is more trouble to be caught with them than it is to get another gun.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM

No bashing you, but that makes no sense. If you get another gun, won’t you be caught with that one? Or do they get the gun in the alley on the way to the shoot-out?

Makes no sense at all.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

You get the gun just prior to using it and ditch it immediately. I read this as well. That way if the cops stop you you have no guns on you. They have little protection against being searched in Mexico. They ditch all weapons not just the ones used to kill.

But a weapon that has killed will always be dumped if the murderer has any smarts at all. Anywhere.

Steveangell on June 29, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Tru dat letget

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

The sad thing is that after January 20th, when Obama and his thugocracy are out of office, all of this will die, and there will be no justice for folks like Brian Terry.

Ward Cleaver on June 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

The sad thing is that after January 20th, when Obama and his thugocracy are out of office, all of this will die, and there will be no justice for folks like Brian Terry.

Ward Cleaver on June 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Yeah, that bothers me too. I wish someone would hold Mitt’s feet to the fire on this, now, and make him promise to follow through. Get him on record.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM

The sad thing is that after January 20th, when Obama and his thugocracy are out of office, all of this will die, and there will be no justice for folks like Brian Terry.

Ward Cleaver on June 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Don’t bet on it. There’s hundreds of thousands of citizens who have no intention of letting this “die” until the truth be told and those responsible for it are held accountable.

Katie Pavlich and Mary Chastain have made it their life’s mission to get to the truth.

As have the Terry and Zapata families, who by the way, have filed lawsuits against the Department of Justice.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Just another in the long line of ‘Shockas’ coming from this administration.

[yawn.]

TimBuk3 on June 29, 2012 at 6:26 PM

The sad thing is that after January 20th, when Obama and his thugocracy are out of office, all of this will die, and there will be no justice for folks like Brian Terry.

Ward Cleaver on June 29, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Why? Why wouldn’t a new, more professional and intelligent A-G appoint a team to turn the place upside down and find out what really happened?

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Yeah, that bothers me too. I wish someone would hold Mitt’s feet to the fire on this, now, and make him promise to follow through. Get him on record.

a capella on June 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Amen.

Thankfully Romney will not be steering this. The House will. The Senate will remain Establishment.

But there will be many more Tea Party members in the House perhaps enough to get Bonehead out as Speaker then they would investigate.

But Establishment Republicans are worthless wimps when it comes to having any guts to investigate Democrats.

Steveangell on June 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Clinton: Justice Dept. didn’t seek State Dept.’s permission for “gunwalking” operation

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Thank you Flora. Hillary is not going to be the fall guy, or girl, or…

She’s nobody’s fool. When you’ve lost the Clintons, run for the exits.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Flora Duh: Anything with “Homeland Security” on it?.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I’m also wondering why there isn’t a list of Mexican victims. I can find only one name so far. there has to be a list somewhere.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 6:52 PM

The attorney general’s withholding of documents pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, he wrote, “does not constitute a crime.”

Contempt of Congress is not a crime?

I’ll have to remember this if I’m ever called to testify.

I mean, surely if it’s not a crime for them, it’s not a crime for the rest of us. Right?

tom on June 29, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Flora Duh: Anything with “Homeland Security” on it?.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Napolitano denies knowledge of Fast and Furious gun-tracking program

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 7:11 PM

NOVEMBER!

hpk1942 on June 29, 2012 at 4:47 PM

We all need to get involved.

Vote these sh*tbags outta there.
Some, like Pelosi–are lifers, but with a majority we can shame them into the extremist imbeciles they really are…

litebeam1 on June 29, 2012 at 7:12 PM

If the House had really wanted to throw some serious weight around, they could’ve exercised their Constitutional option to actually arrest the attorney general, but it’s become kind of a tradition that everybody restrain themselves.

No … rather, it’s become a tradition that the establishment freaks in charge of the GOP leadership are a bunch of sackless eunuchs and always have been.

This is going no where – everyone should hope that Obama is reelected just to see what happens here – and watch the GOP “blink” once again once their civil prosecution comes to fruition. However, if Willy McDole becomes POTUS – then you can write this violation of the constitution off as a sidenote in GOP politics.

Can anyone tell me why the house hasn’t pulled funding from the BATF?

THAT’S HARDBALL people – something the GOP isn’t interested in.

HondaV65 on June 29, 2012 at 7:13 PM

No … rather, it’s become a tradition that the establishment freaks in charge of the GOP leadership are a bunch of sackless eunuchs and always have been.

This is going no where – everyone should hope that Obama is reelected just to see what happens here – and watch the GOP “blink” once again once their civil prosecution comes to fruition. However, if Willy McDole becomes POTUS – then you can write this violation of the constitution off as a sidenote in GOP politics.

So youre saying the GOP as a whole don’t want to carry this through? Then why would Issa continue? Maybe it’s because he *does* care?

And what about the rest of those that voted for contempt? And those Dems that voted alongside?

Some things good men & women of both parties can agree on. Unlike the members of the CBC and their allies that basically said that the deaths of 2 Border Patrol Agents and Mexican nationals mean nothing because it doesn’t serve thier agenda.

Can anyone tell me why the house hasn’t pulled funding from the BATF?

Because, this clusterfark aside, BATF *does* serve a purpose. I would be less kind or understanding if it was the Department of Education SWAT team that caused the deaths of those people.

As such, just like the FBI, DEA, etc when they overreached their powers they were reprimanded or firings occurred…even jail time. Not all the time, but this is the law at work.

They all fall under Congressional review, and if need be hold as many accountable as realistically possible.

THAT’S HARDBALL people – something the GOP isn’t interested in.

HondaV65 on June 29, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Nope Honda, its Politics, and the Good Guys don’t have a unbeatable wining streak every year.

BlaxPac on June 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Whaddya mean…

“They’re scared to death…[it's] unseemly to have somebody go arrest the attorney general.”

That’s why it’s been more than 75 years since either chamber has used the option though it used to be somewhat common.

Say what??!?
Nixon’s AG John Mitchell was convicted of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury for his role in Watergate, and spent 19 months in prison for it. Watergate was in 1972, his conviction was in 1975.
That’s only 37 years ago.

ss396 on June 29, 2012 at 8:57 PM

ITAR sounds like the way to go to me. Who would prosecute something like that?

cptacek on June 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Let’s just face it: the Repubicans don’t have the balls to do anything that will end this criminal administration.

Decoski on June 30, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Again, many of you seem to agonize that Mexicans have been killed by guns purchased here and then transported across the border.
Any thoughts on how to reduce or stop such carnage…
which according to President Calderon began largely in 2004…for some reason.
Perhaps that’s not really on the agenda here.

verbaluce on June 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM

Many Mexicans on this side of the border vote.

TimBuk3 on June 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM

There will be no justice in this country until we go back to a Constitutional Government. The Constitution is the law of the land, not what political hacks think is law or political correctness. A DOJ that will not prosecute criminals is no better then the criminals they will not prosecute. In our government today politics has superseded the law. The time for change in now!

savage24 on June 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM