Gallup: Public split evenly on Court’s ObamaCare decision, 46/46; Update: Go on offense, WH urges Dems

posted at 7:21 pm on June 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

There are actually two polls out tonight on this, but being a dirty, dirty eeyore, I had to lead with the pessimistic one. As a prelude to the data, here’s Wesley Smith writing yesterday at The Corner:

I think there is a lot of whistling past the graveyard going on among conservatives who think that Obamacare is really in the political crosshairs now, and indeed, could lead to the defeat of the president’s reelection effort. I worry that the opposite is true. Sure, opponents who care a lot about the constitutionality and policy propriety of the ACA are very upset and motivated to defeat the president. But they already were. For the relatively uninvolved, the message of the Roberts ruling, despite the justice’s protests to the contrary, is that Obamacare is A-okay. That will increase the law’s popularity — just as Roe v. Wade did with abortion. Alas.

There’s something to be said for that. Don’t underestimate the ignorance of low-information voters. Some people will have turned on the TV last night, seen liberals celebrating outside the Court, heard about Obama’s “big victory,” and come away thinking at best that the issue is settled and at worst that they should hold the law in higher esteem now. Over at Gallup, the split is 46/46 overall on the ruling and 45/42 in favor among independents — albeit with an ironic punchline for Roberts:

If you believe that he voted the way he did in order to preserve the Court’s prestige as a nonpartisan institution that’s above politics, there’s your consolation prize. Among independents and Republicans, the ruling had the opposite effect.

Now for the other poll. Second look at Newsweek?

Overall, 50 percent of those polled said they disapprove of the court’s 5–4 decision, while 45 percent said they support it. Consistently, a majority of voters said that they oppose the individual mandate (53 percent); believe taxes will increase (52 percent); believe their personal health-care costs will increase (56 percent); and disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care in general (58 percent). Only 24 percent of those polled said that they believe the ruling will make the country better off

Even as those polled said that they prefer Romney to Obama on health care—as well as almost every other issue, with the exception of terrorism, foreign policy, and education—voters said that they trust Democrats more than Republicans overall on the major questions facing the nation, 37 percent to 32 percent.

Romney leads Obama by 15 points(!) on the economy and by eight when voters are asked whom they prefer to handle health care. As for The One’s approval rating on health care, behold:

Now that the battle’s been joined on this issue, lefty Michael Tomasky wonders if Paul Ryan’s stock is up with respect to VP. If this is going to be front and center among the conservative base until election day, Romney might as well have the most effective possible attack dog on the ticket making the case that health-care regulations are bringing about a new Greece here in America. The problem, of course, as Tomasky admits, is that if Ryan’s on the ticket then the health-care debate isn’t just about ObamaCare but about Ryan’s budget too, the prospect of which surely doesn’t thrill Romney. And truth be told, I’m not so sure that health care will remain front and center all the way to November. Team Mitt’s battle plan all along has been economy, economy, economy on the assumption that swing voters will finally turn on O if things don’t pick up by the fall. There’s no similar assumption with O-Care. Voters will probably go on not liking it but independents may end up fairly evenly divided, with even the anti-ObamaCare faction much more tepid in its opposition than conservatives are. And if Smith is right about the Court’s imprimatur shifting public opinion about the statute, then making the election about O-Care is even dicier. Besides, the engine of animus to the program is the mandate and we’ve made Mr. Mandate our nominee. Do you really want to bet four years on Romney’s ability to convince viewers at the first debate that his state mandate is totally copacetic while Obama’s is a liberty-destroying nightmare?

That said, O-Care is still unpopular on balance — enough so that, via the Standard, certain swing-state senators are lying very low in order to avoid talking about it. Two minutes of Friday fun for you here.

Update: Dude?

Update: David Plouffe wants Senate Democrats to start talking up their enormous new mandate/tax? Maybe we should make this election about health care after all:

The White House is encouraging congressional Democrats to go on the offensive after the Supreme Court upheld the president’s signature healthcare legislation Thursday, urging members on the campaign trail to “illustrate how the President and Democrats in Congress are standing up for the middle class.”

The memo, written by White House senior adviser David Plouffe and sent to the House and Senate Democratic caucuses, says the party should be happy to debate Republicans on taxes.

“After over a decade of watching the security of the middle class erode, Republicans in Congress are determined to return to the exact same policies that led to the economic crisis,” Plouffe argues. “The President refuses to settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well, while a growing number of Americans barely get by.”

Update: Annnnd, right on cue, American Crossroads fires away:


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How is this even possible? Oh yeah, Gallup…

claudius on June 29, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Nancy was right. Once the bill is passed and the American people can read what’s in it, they will love it.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

I’m fine with the decision since I am 100 percent positive that, had it been struck down – the GOP would have replaced it with it’s own version of nationalized health care with Willy McDole at it’s head.

HondaV65 on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

If anyone beleives this poll I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY I would like to sell you complete with a soda fountain that dispenses sugar drinks, as many ounces as you like.

bgibbs1000 on June 29, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Gallup gallops further into irrelevancy.

squint on June 29, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Update: Dude?

It won’t last, eeyore:

Barclays, whose suggestion is simple: lock your profits: “We remain bearish on EURUSD, expecting it to grind slowly down to 1.15 over the next 12 months. We therefore suggest investors look to fade this morning’s European currency strength versus the USD and non European commodity currencies such as the AUD and CAD.” Why? They have their listed reasons. The unlisted ones are the same that every other bank has for becoming bearish recently (we have recently listed Citi, Goldman, SocGen and DB to name but a few): for a real fiscal and monetary policy intervention to take place (i.e., a rescue package that lasts at least a few months, as opposed to today’s several day max rally): the market has to be tumbling. That, as we have explained repeatedly, is the only way to get a powerful response. Everything else is (quarter end) window dressing.

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2012 at 7:27 PM

There are actually two polls out tonight on this, but being a dirty, dirty eeyore, I had to lead with the pessimistic one.

I can’t even fault you for this anymore. You were wrong about the details, but your pessimism via the SCOTUS was clearly well-placed.

I fear the same pessimism regarding the election would also be well-placed.

We’re boned.

Kensington on June 29, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Nancy was right. Once the bill is passed and the American people can read what’s in it, they will love it.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Wow…dude…you’re drowning.

squint on June 29, 2012 at 7:28 PM

ahh intrade, 73 percent said Obamacare would be repealed. All hail the power of the internet!

rob verdi on June 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Give it a little time for this to sink in. Did people quickly polled yesterday even get to digest the tax aspect of this?

Mark1971 on June 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM

As far as I’m concerned, any increase in my health insurance premiums, any decrease in what my health insurance pays, is an Obama tax hike.

I’m paying more out-of-pocket for my blood pressure medication now, because my insurance changed the amount it reimburses for that drug… Obamatax!

malclave on June 29, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Yeah but to be fair, Pelosi never realized that she could have written the bill on one page that read:

“We are going to tax the crap out of every US citizen. And Obama’s lying when he says that he’s not doing just that. SCOTUS will prove me right in two years”

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I’m reading William Manchester’s Alone, and the parallels are striking…

And horrifying, too.

Nancy was right. Once the bill is passed and the American people can read what’s in it, they will love it.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Someone please grab this, a la the infamous crr6 post, for posterity.

Nancy Pelosi isn’t right about anything, ever. If you want to be certain of the correctness, the morality or logic of any argument, consult Nancy Pelosi. Then do the exact opposite.

turfmann on June 29, 2012 at 7:31 PM

HondaV65 still treasonously rationalizing anti-constitutional thuggery while attacking the most viable anti-amnesty GOP candidate for POTUS.

While waving his patriotism in our faces, naturally.

SSDD in other words.

rightwingyahooo on June 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM

ahh intrade, 73 percent said Obamacare would be repealed. All hail the power of the internet!

rob verdi on June 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Haha, because it should have been! Roberts blew it.

El_Terrible on June 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Funny Poll, sad sitution but funny in a weird sort of way. You would think with a 46/46 split I would have run into some of these people that think it’s fine.

whbates on June 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Focus almost exclusively on the Economy and drib drab all the bad stuff about ObamaCare in the context of the economy. That’s the play. Lots of new eyes just learning about this stuff for Romney to flip.

AYNBLAND on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Gallup is respectable. I expected Obamacare to get a short lived bump. Give it a week or two and opinions will be back in the cellar.

Donald Draper on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Yes, the low information voters saw the MSM “it’s all cool” signal and slunk off. . . for now.

Wait until the debates when Romney uses the word “tax” like a cudgel on King Tax’s head.

It’ll get through even to the dumbest of the dumb then – we’ve been taxed yet again and they didn’t even have the courtesy to tell us it was coming this time.

Taxation is poison. Plenty of time to get the word out that Obamacare is nothing but a massive tax on the middle and upper classes.

RedNewEnglander on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

oh, right…i’m believing a poll of adults on this. now if it were about knowledge of holmes/cruise…yeah

r keller on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Watching that report on McCaskill I am amazed at seeing a local news station go after a Democrat like that. I would never see anything like that in LA media.

Mark1971 on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Total crock…it’s just as unpopular as it was before Roberts…maybe more…’cuz it’s a TAX!!!

winston on June 29, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Over the last week while the subject has been health care rather than the economy, Obama’s polling has improved. Some is a decline in Romney’s vote, possibly due to Obama’s negative ad campaign in the swing states, but switching the subject sure has not hurt Obama yet.

KW64 on June 29, 2012 at 7:35 PM

I’m fine with the decision since I am 100 percent positive that, had it been struck down – the GOP would have replaced it with it’s own version of nationalized health care with Willy McDole at it’s head.

HondaV65 on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Of course you are

thebrokenrattle on June 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Gallup has always had Obamacare more popular than any other polling firm. Here is the Real Clear Politics list of polls, scroll down.

midgeorgian on June 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM

The election will be decided on two issues…

1. Who will bring more to the dinner table…
2. Who won’t ship my sons/daughters off to more war…

The GOP neglects #2 at their own peril…

ninjapirate on June 29, 2012 at 7:37 PM

The White House is encouraging congressional Democrats to go on the offensive

I don’t know, I think they’re pretty offensive right now.

squint on June 29, 2012 at 7:37 PM

I did not get exited over the possibility of O care being struck down. The supreme’s gave us abortion, no prayer in school, and the list goes on. The fight is for the long term, for the grandchildren. The republican party is to blame regardless whether or not they were in the majority. They did not fight, they did not bring it to the floor week after week after week. We know have a law on the books that not one real republican voted for. I told the republican party two years ago after the landslide election that I would not give one dime until Obamacare was repealed…period…

The polls will continue to rise, the media will assist in it. The GOP has yet again let us down, in not keeping this in the forefront, and allowing it to go to the supreme court. Obamacare is now the law of the land, it will become the candidates choice for campaign speeches for many years to come. Just like Social Security, and Medicare, and Medicaid, and abortion.

shar61 on June 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Yes, talk up a plan that was hated by the majority of Americans BEFORE they thought of it as the Biggest Tax Increase in the History Of EVAAAHHHH!

Winning strategy there, guys.

Go for it.

RedNewEnglander on June 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Give it a little time for this to sink in. Did people quickly polled yesterday even get to digest the tax aspect of this?

Mark1971 on June 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM

No they did not…but it will sink in….with the sane people anyway, the ones with the ability to comprehend 5th grade math anyway.

Tim Zank on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

AP

The 46/46 split with Gallup is only if they agree with the ruling, i.e. whether it is constitutional.

When asked what they want Congress to do…

Repeal in Full 31%
Repeal parts 21%
Kept in place 13%

Only 13% want the thing.

kevinkristy on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

We’ve been Robertsed…

d1carter on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Polls of adults are absolute garbage no matter who is doing the polling. Get back to us when you have a poll of likely voters to report on.

NotCoach on June 29, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Gallup is respectable. I expected Obamacare to get a short lived bump. Give it a week or two and opinions will be back in the cellar.

Donald Draper on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

I agree. There is always a bandwagon effect of some people wanting initially to be on the winning side-no matter what that side may be. There is a 10-15 point difference which is consistently in favor of anti-Obamacare sentiment. I foresee no change in this sentiment.

MaiDee on June 29, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Mark1971 on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

It was absolutely amazing…

OmahaConservative on June 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

RedNewEnglander on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

You forget saint romney pioneered the mandate/tax.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I guess you prefer the MiniTru wannabes at MSNBC.

malclave on June 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Obviously you haven’t read it either…

Tim Zank on June 29, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

And I refer you to this post

When asked what they want Congress to do…

Repeal in Full 31%
Repeal parts 21%
Kept in place 13%

Only 13% want the thing.

kevinkristy on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

El_Terrible on June 29, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Uh huh, they are actually reading the bill. Got it. Don’t you have a giant gavel to molest Nancy?

NotCoach on June 29, 2012 at 7:42 PM

The 46/46 split with Gallup is only if they agree with the ruling, i.e. whether it is constitutional.

When asked what they want Congress to do…

Repeal in Full 31%
Repeal parts 21%
Kept in place 13%

Only 13% want the thing.

kevinkristy on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Actually I missed the 25% that want it expanded…

So it is…
Add even more government 25%
Kept in place 13%
Repeal in Full 31%
Repeal parts 21%

52/38 is still a big loser for Obama.

kevinkristy on June 29, 2012 at 7:42 PM

I did not get exited over the possibility of O care being struck down. The supreme’s gave us abortion, no prayer in school, and the list goes on. The fight is for the long term, for the grandchildren. The republican party is to blame regardless whether or not they were in the majority. They did not fight, they did not bring it to the floor week after week after week. We know have a law on the books that not one real republican voted for. I told the republican party two years ago after the landslide election that I would not give one dime until Obamacare was repealed…period…

The polls will continue to rise, the media will assist in it. The GOP has yet again let us down, in not keeping this in the forefront, and allowing it to go to the supreme court. Obamacare is now the law of the land, it will become the candidates choice for campaign speeches for many years to come. Just like Social Security, and Medicare, and Medicaid, and abortion.

shar61 on June 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Just think of the whole mess like this – since this is the reality of what is going on when you strip everything else away:

It’s a MASSIVE TAX in the middle of a MAJOR RECESSION. People have the chance to REMOVE THIS TAX by voting properly in November. There are still more producers than moochers that vote – 2010 showed that.

Relax.

RedNewEnglander on June 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Oh please Senate Democrats join the fight. Please please please.

gophergirl on June 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Ya gotta love Karl and his ads

Dont have to use anything but his words

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Give it a little time for this to sink in. Did people quickly polled yesterday even get to digest the tax aspect of this?

Mark1971 on June 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Dude, the people quick polled yesterday think the only relevance of the name John Adams is to the beer. We’re totally gonna win the messaging war about how Obamacare is really a tax though.

Kataklysmic on June 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

And if anyone here knows more about “believing propaganda”, it’s you, chummy.

squint on June 29, 2012 at 7:44 PM

RedNewEnglander on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

You forget saint romney pioneered the mandate/tax.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

I imagine you’re trying to make a point. Please get to it.

RedNewEnglander on June 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

ninjapirate on June 29, 2012 at 7:37 PM

What are you talking about?

thebrokenrattle on June 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Taxation is poison. Plenty of time to get the word out that Obamacare is nothing but a massive tax on the middle and upper classes.

RedNewEnglander on June 29, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Nancy was right. Once the bill is passed and the American people can read what’s in it, they will love it.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Not even you can be this stupid.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Happy TGIF to you!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 7:47 PM

I love Crossroads ads.. But does anyone find it ironic that Karl Rove/Bush gave us Roberts. And now Karl is running ads against Roberts-affirmed bill. It’s a weird thing this politics.

kevinkristy on June 29, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM

You go Girl!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Update: David Plouffe wants Senate Democrats to start talking up their enormous new mandate/tax? Maybe we should make this election about health care after all:

Fine then we call Obama a liar! He lied about raising our taxes. He lied that Obamatax wasn’t a tax, when in fact it can only be legal if it is understood as a tax.

We make fun of the big eared prince by pointing out that the Great Constitutional Scholar denied that his bill existed in the only form that it could be understood as Constitutional. Some Constitutional scholar! If he tries to run on ObamaTax, then we make him own the tax increase on all Americans. Every man woman and child is now taxed if they don’t give money to insurance companies, all hail the greatest TaxMaster, Obama! Obama! Obama!

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2012 at 7:48 PM

David Plouffe wants Senate Democrats to start talking up their enormous new mandate/tax? Maybe we should make this election about health care after all:

Well that should really work well for the Dems.

whbates on June 29, 2012 at 7:48 PM

upper…here’s a one of those cartoonish vids on h/c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7pqRjHQ9BU&feature=player_embedded

very cute…it makes some small mistakes..but a pretty good take on the future

r keller on June 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Gallup has always had Obamacare more popular than any other polling firm. Here is the Real Clear Politics list of polls, scroll down.

midgeorgian on June 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Yeah. Every polling firm has consistently had Obamacare with a double digit disadvantage in support…the only one not to, Gallup. So either all those other polls are completely wrong or just one of them is.

The Notorious G.O.P on June 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Nancy was right. Once the bill is passed and the American people can read what’s in it, they will love it.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

The bill was passed a long time ago and no 46% is not loving it.

You’re an idiot as usual. At least you’re consistent at something.

CW on June 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Not even you can be this stupid.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM

I don’t know – this one is quite special.

gophergirl on June 29, 2012 at 7:50 PM

By the way. This poll is about the decision. Not about Obamacare.

The Notorious G.O.P on June 29, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Nancy was right. Once the bill is passed and the American people can read what’s in it, they will love it.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Yeah, sure. I remember when I had my first beer,

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Update: David Plouffe wants Senate Democrats to start talking up their enormous new mandate/tax?

No. If you read what he’s saying he just wants to keep up the same class warfare rhetoric they’ve been using all along.

Mark1971 on June 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Hey, American citizen! If you breathe, Obama wants you to know you owe insurance companies money. If you can’t pay them to justify your existance, then the IRS will be at your door shortly. Obama! Obama! Obama!

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Hey Dire
so happy it’s the weekend

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

If people let this slide in November, this country will have deserved it.

You just can’t have a viable country with half of them being stone stupid, no matter what their party affiliation.

Wolfmoon on June 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Kataklysmic on June 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM

While I don’t agree with the Roberts decision there is a window of opportunity to correct this!..Third time is the charm..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Upperasshole–

Ever hear of Federalism?

CW on June 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

.
I’m thinking approximately half (maybe more) of those who approve of Obama Care, don’t know how to read.

listens2glenn on June 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM

cmsinaz on June 29, 2012 at 7:52 PM

*clink*..Yes my Friend enjoy!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

The highest rated show on Fox has 4 Million viewers. There are over 300 Million Americans. Plus, the entire remaining media is liberal. So your idiotic statement is idiotic. ObamaCare polls badly even WITH the liberal media bias.

AYNBLAND on June 29, 2012 at 7:57 PM

CW on June 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Good post!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 7:57 PM

You forget saint romney pioneered the mandate/tax.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Do you believe that’s winning angle for 0bamessiah, UES? LOL

0bamessiah, during interview: the mandate is not a tax, Stephanopoulos!

0bamessiah, in front of the USSC: the mandate is a tax, Justices!

0bamessiah, post-Roberts’ ruling: um, it doesn’t matter if you call it a tax or not, despite the fact that Roberts’ ruling has now established it in law as a tax!

That’s your baby, UES! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on June 29, 2012 at 7:57 PM

That’s a BS POLL!

MCGIRV on June 29, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I did the Gallup poll last evening.The lady didn’t sound too happy when I answered I was a strong Republican.

docflash on June 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

That’s your baby, UES! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on June 29, 2012 at 7:57 PM

I like the cut of your jib!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Because I see Obamacare as so distructive to this country and our economy and because Romney said he will repeal it on day 1 of his presidency, I will now donate to him and give him my vote. I hope he does not screw us or pull a RINO switch and let it stand. If he does I will leave the Republican party once and for all.

CCRWM on June 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

David Plouffe wants Senate Democrats to start talking up their enormous new mandate/tax?

Why not? They know the MSM will run interference for them.

Romney needs to go all in with someone like Ryan or Jindal. Let’s put it all out there and present the stark choice…do you want European style collapse, or don’t you?

changer1701 on June 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

They wanna fight with Obamacare as their weapon of choice? Ha, good luck with that, my good Dems.

thebrokenrattle on June 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Replace “healthcare” with Tax… you will see an 80/20 split.

The 20 don’t pay taxes anyway.

Odie1941 on June 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Democrats were already offensive.

The Rock on June 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

CCRWM on June 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

nice post!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Gallup has always overstated support in their polls on obamacare, go to Real Clear Politics and look at the average of polls.

How about a Flashback to 2005? Coulter 2005 Column: Roberts The Next Souter- http://www.wnd.com/2005/07/31505/

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 29, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Dems go on the defense:

It’s the bestest tax bill that we ever pushed through Congress!

By hiding Health Coverage in a previous House bill- that originally had only to do with taxes on service members- we managed to disguise Obamacare as an amendment to that innocuous piece of legislation, and then push it through the Democrat-controlled Congress before anyone knew what was in it!

We outsmarted everybody! And the president lied and lied that it wasn’t a tax! He swore it wasn’t a tax!

But it was!

It took John Roberts to out us!

And we’ll still lie and say it isn’t a tax, even thought it would not have survived the Supreme Court’s scrutiny unless it is a tax.

So, it’s a tax!

Ain’t we clever!

Vote Democrat, the STEALTH TAX PARTY!

profitsbeard on June 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Replace “healthcare” with Tax… you will see an 80/20 split.

The 20 don’t pay taxes anyway.

Odie1941 on June 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

.
I agree with your concept, but I believe it’s more than 20%.

listens2glenn on June 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Lots of ass covering going on …on blogs, radio. They secretly think this ruling helps Obama a lot and want to be able to say I told you so if Romney loses.

So they’re working the refs……….us.

AYNBLAND on June 29, 2012 at 8:09 PM

The left always gets the nod from Gallup. However, this probably just restates what appears to be a rather even split between Obama’s parasitic freeloaders and the independent, productive members of our society. Sorry, but that’s just the way it is.

rplat on June 29, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I do believe that the Republicans, the Tea Party, and conservatives are ready to make a case on this: Gov’t intrusions in your health care decisions and then the Gov’t is going to tax you to pay for these intrusions.

If the Dems want to have a fight on this bring it on. The Republicans, the Tea Party, and conservatives appear to be happy to repeat the 2010 strategy that brought a record turnover in the House of Representatives. I hope the inteligencia on the right is looking to not only repeat the 2010 strategy, but improve upon the strategy………….

bubbafromkc on June 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

“everybody’s got this broken feeling/ like their momma or their dog just died”

http://youtu.be/RaJAxdGeZ4E

roberts has gone into hiding in another country. har har- he has the audacity to joke. some of us are in mourning for this country- he has some nerve, paving the way has he has for a dictatorship through the power to tax anything and/or nothing. taxing just breathing and being alive in a certain chunk of earth.

gutless puke.

mittens on June 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

This sucks.

Roberts made up law, he rewrote what Congress originally wrote and that is not his job.

I fear for our Constitution.

I’m not sure we ever get our freedom back.

Romney should have won in 2008.

petunia on June 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Every man woman and child is now taxed if they don’t give money to insurance companies, all hail the greatest TaxMaster, Obama! Obama! Obama!

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Not only that, but if you do have insurance and it is considered a “cadillac” policy, you also have to pay a “penalty”.

Night Owl on June 29, 2012 at 8:12 PM

I agree with your concept, but I believe it’s more than 20%.

listens2glenn on June 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Very true. I predicated the result with the vehement distaste for taxes over total people who don’t pay taxes.

Makes it look much worse ;)

Odie1941 on June 29, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Because I see Obamacare as so distructive to this country and our economy and because Romney said he will repeal it on day 1 of his presidency, I will now donate to him and give him my vote. I hope he does not screw us or pull a RINO switch and let it stand. If he does I will leave the Republican party once and for all.

CCRWM on June 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

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nice post!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

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Dittos.
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Furthermore, I’d like to see that comment drafted as a petition (though it’s not one) that we can all put our signatures on.

listens2glenn on June 29, 2012 at 8:12 PM

listens2glenn on June 29, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Ditto to you!..:):)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Some dope “Dem strategist” (are there like 100,000,000 of them???) are trying to argue “Romney is the originator of Obamacare and is the wrong guy to run against Obama”…

Clearly that’s the narrative the liberals and Dem’s are desperately running with.

Good luck with that in November.

Odie1941 on June 29, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Yada Yada

http://lewrockwell.com/douglas/douglas55.1.html

roflmao

donabernathy on June 29, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Romney should have won in 2008.

petunia on June 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

And I should have picked the winning lottery numbers last weekend, but I didn’t.

But I will not whine about what should have been. I will however; do what needs to be done to do so this weekend.

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Once again the reason why the bill is gaining popularity is because Americans are starting to read whats in it instead of believing propaganda outlets like faux news. Period.

Uppereastside on June 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Ummm, no. Most of those morons they are interviewing on the news and radio actually believe they are getting FREE health care. They have no idea what is coming to them.

First of all, it ain’t free. Second of all, paying the penalty is NOT the same as getting a policy to get covered. Third, if you end up getting insurance from one of the state exchanges or the expanded medicaid, good luck getting an appointment to be seen by a competent medical professional.

karenhasfreedom on June 29, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Because I see Obamacare as so distructive to this country and our economy and because Romney said he will repeal it on day 1 of his presidency, I will now donate to him and give him my vote. I hope he does not screw us or pull a RINO switch and let it stand. If he does I will leave the Republican party once and for all.

CCRWM on June 29, 2012 at 8:00 PM

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nice post!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

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Dittos.
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Furthermore, I’d like to see that comment drafted as a petition (though it’s not one) that we can all put our signatures on.

listens2glenn on June 29, 2012 at 8:12 PM

I third that motion!

profitsbeard on June 29, 2012 at 8:17 PM

karenhasfreedom on June 29, 2012 at 8:17 PM

You go girl!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM

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