Gallup: Public split evenly on Court’s ObamaCare decision, 46/46; Update: Go on offense, WH urges Dems

posted at 7:21 pm on June 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

There are actually two polls out tonight on this, but being a dirty, dirty eeyore, I had to lead with the pessimistic one. As a prelude to the data, here’s Wesley Smith writing yesterday at The Corner:

I think there is a lot of whistling past the graveyard going on among conservatives who think that Obamacare is really in the political crosshairs now, and indeed, could lead to the defeat of the president’s reelection effort. I worry that the opposite is true. Sure, opponents who care a lot about the constitutionality and policy propriety of the ACA are very upset and motivated to defeat the president. But they already were. For the relatively uninvolved, the message of the Roberts ruling, despite the justice’s protests to the contrary, is that Obamacare is A-okay. That will increase the law’s popularity — just as Roe v. Wade did with abortion. Alas.

There’s something to be said for that. Don’t underestimate the ignorance of low-information voters. Some people will have turned on the TV last night, seen liberals celebrating outside the Court, heard about Obama’s “big victory,” and come away thinking at best that the issue is settled and at worst that they should hold the law in higher esteem now. Over at Gallup, the split is 46/46 overall on the ruling and 45/42 in favor among independents — albeit with an ironic punchline for Roberts:

If you believe that he voted the way he did in order to preserve the Court’s prestige as a nonpartisan institution that’s above politics, there’s your consolation prize. Among independents and Republicans, the ruling had the opposite effect.

Now for the other poll. Second look at Newsweek?

Overall, 50 percent of those polled said they disapprove of the court’s 5–4 decision, while 45 percent said they support it. Consistently, a majority of voters said that they oppose the individual mandate (53 percent); believe taxes will increase (52 percent); believe their personal health-care costs will increase (56 percent); and disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care in general (58 percent). Only 24 percent of those polled said that they believe the ruling will make the country better off

Even as those polled said that they prefer Romney to Obama on health care—as well as almost every other issue, with the exception of terrorism, foreign policy, and education—voters said that they trust Democrats more than Republicans overall on the major questions facing the nation, 37 percent to 32 percent.

Romney leads Obama by 15 points(!) on the economy and by eight when voters are asked whom they prefer to handle health care. As for The One’s approval rating on health care, behold:

Now that the battle’s been joined on this issue, lefty Michael Tomasky wonders if Paul Ryan’s stock is up with respect to VP. If this is going to be front and center among the conservative base until election day, Romney might as well have the most effective possible attack dog on the ticket making the case that health-care regulations are bringing about a new Greece here in America. The problem, of course, as Tomasky admits, is that if Ryan’s on the ticket then the health-care debate isn’t just about ObamaCare but about Ryan’s budget too, the prospect of which surely doesn’t thrill Romney. And truth be told, I’m not so sure that health care will remain front and center all the way to November. Team Mitt’s battle plan all along has been economy, economy, economy on the assumption that swing voters will finally turn on O if things don’t pick up by the fall. There’s no similar assumption with O-Care. Voters will probably go on not liking it but independents may end up fairly evenly divided, with even the anti-ObamaCare faction much more tepid in its opposition than conservatives are. And if Smith is right about the Court’s imprimatur shifting public opinion about the statute, then making the election about O-Care is even dicier. Besides, the engine of animus to the program is the mandate and we’ve made Mr. Mandate our nominee. Do you really want to bet four years on Romney’s ability to convince viewers at the first debate that his state mandate is totally copacetic while Obama’s is a liberty-destroying nightmare?

That said, O-Care is still unpopular on balance — enough so that, via the Standard, certain swing-state senators are lying very low in order to avoid talking about it. Two minutes of Friday fun for you here.

Update: Dude?

Update: David Plouffe wants Senate Democrats to start talking up their enormous new mandate/tax? Maybe we should make this election about health care after all:

The White House is encouraging congressional Democrats to go on the offensive after the Supreme Court upheld the president’s signature healthcare legislation Thursday, urging members on the campaign trail to “illustrate how the President and Democrats in Congress are standing up for the middle class.”

The memo, written by White House senior adviser David Plouffe and sent to the House and Senate Democratic caucuses, says the party should be happy to debate Republicans on taxes.

“After over a decade of watching the security of the middle class erode, Republicans in Congress are determined to return to the exact same policies that led to the economic crisis,” Plouffe argues. “The President refuses to settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well, while a growing number of Americans barely get by.”

Update: Annnnd, right on cue, American Crossroads fires away:


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…and the specifics as to the recent Supreme Court decision (majority and minority one) and Obama’s disgusting misrepresentation about it afterward are not even remotely interesting to those who are among Obama’s core enthusiasts. All they’re focused on are those “sales pitches” I just listed (at: Lourdes on June 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM).

Lourdes on June 30, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Whew, thank goodness Roberts saved Romney’s a$$.

bgibbs1000 on June 30, 2012 at 11:44 AM

I’ll refer you to my last two comments here ^^ as to why Obama is experiencing a bit of a bump since the S.C. decision was announced.

It won’t last IF and as the rest of us get the points across as to the details involved.

For some who don’t pay federal taxes, they’ll always find the hook of “free stuff” enticing.

Lourdes on June 30, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Naaahhh. Not believing the poll. To quote a recent president, “The poll that matters is in November.”

J.E. Dyer on June 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM

The GOP needs to pound on the point of raised taxes. Taxes are the worst mandate, after all, and this one is far from progressive. It affects people who don’t eve want health insurance.

Healthcare is only one of the things to hang on the Dems. It comes on top of Taxmageddon and Trillion dollar deficits. They want to blame this all on the refusal of the GOP to raise taxes, but they’re the ones who’ve increased spending without any way to pay for it. They should be barred from office until they learn to cut spending.

flataffect on June 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM

The ones who either don’t care or think this bill is wonderful are the ones who live off the generosity of the taxpayers.
Of course they think this bill will be good for them.

Obama and his band of merry thugs were very clever in
delaying any payments for this monstrosity until 2013 or 14.
After the election! (My sister just found out that her medicare
payments will double in 2014 – she is livid! Guess who she is
voting for?!.

The only salvation we have is to get out the vote for Romney along with house and senate members. We have nothing else.

If you are a Ron Paul or Gary Johnson supporter, get over yourselves. If you are mad because your preferred candidate did
not win, get over yourself. If it is raining (or snowing) on
election day, get over yourself.

We have a country to save. Get out and vote for Romney!

Amjean on June 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM

I hope for those that STILL believe they will get a $4.00 prescription for FREE it will be worth the cost for ALL of American taxpayers to foot the bill.

You just cannot fix stupid.

The difference between a robber and the IRS…..there now is no difference.

ActinUpinTexas on June 30, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Gallup: Public split evenly on Court’s ObamaCare decision, 46/46;
..in other words, 46% haven’t a clue what’s really in this atrocious Piece of Sh^t bill and probably think it’s really “free” healthcare.

TeaPartyNation on June 30, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Do you really want to bet four years on Romney’s ability to convince viewers at the first debate that his state mandate is totally copacetic while Obama’s is a liberty-destroying nightmare?

No, not really. But then that’s one big reason why I and many others didn’t want him as the nominee in the first place. But we were roundly attacked by the snooty Mittbots here who are so impressed with pedigrees. And if we weren’t on board the Mittmobile, we must just be a bunch of ignorant rubes who hate all that fancy schoolin’ and such.

Oh well. They got their way, and we go to war with the army we’ve got. I hope he can pull it off. He doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that he will actually do what he says and act to repeal the thing, and he’s squishier than W was and he gave us Roberts, so I’m not sure his SCOTUS nominees will exactly be sterling defenders of the Constitution. All I know is we are for sure doomed if Obama gets reflected and we are only maybe doomed, down the road, if Mittens does. I guess I have to roll the dice.

NoLeftTurn on July 1, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Oh well. They got their way, and we go to war with the army we’ve got.

NoLeftTurn on July 1, 2012 at 12:40 AM

So you are willing to vote for a LIBERAL, but will you accept the responsibility when the bill for Mr. Individual Mandate/Big
Government comes due? Will you cheer when Willard causes conservatives to be kicked out of Congreee as Bush did in 2006?

I’m too stinkin proud to give up my core principles in order to assist ANY Liberal. PERIOD! I prefer to stand tall and make a real effort to take back America.

DannoJyd on July 1, 2012 at 4:11 AM

I’m not buying this poll either/again. 46/46 from Gallup on the SC ruling. I simply don’t believe it.

ncjetsfan on July 1, 2012 at 8:06 AM

The GOP will go down in flames in Nov if they make recalling Obamacare the centerpiece of their message. It remains jobs/economy and they should not underestimate the dem’s offshoring attacks. The dem’s will make political mileage with this tactic. DD

Darvin Dowdy on July 1, 2012 at 12:37 PM

DannoJyd on July 1, 2012 at 4:11 AM </blockquote
Then you're voting for Obama. Go ahead. Stand on your principles and vote for a candidate who doesn't stand a chance. But be aware, if Obama wins, there is no going back. You won't recognize the country well before his next term is up.

And don't count on him going easy on the country to boost the Democratic Party. He doesn't give a rat's patootie about anyone but himself. He'll sacrifice the House and Senate for his party in an instant if it will be an advantage for him. Heck, he'd eat poor Bo on live TV if he thought it would do him good.

hachiban on July 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM

hachiban on July 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM

It is almost amusing watching you write your own epitaph while you cower in fear before the liberal establishment now controlling the Republican Party.

You would like to bel;ieve that it is I that will be assisting the 0obama Regime when it is you who is claiming supoport for the man that origionated most of the ideas implemented by 0bama.

You go ahead and focus on the color of their skins, the liberal rhetoric, and the brand they wear. I’ll stick with following the issues since that is what is based in reality.

I’ll never understand people that capitulate before the battle has begun. I guess they would also believe a 85 year old man wearing diapers is in fact a baby if told to believe that by their masters.

Don’t wonder where your pride went. You gave that away with your principles in order to be allowed to remain lazy.

DannoJyd on July 1, 2012 at 10:25 PM

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