Changing the subject? Update: Initial polling says …

posted at 10:41 am on June 29, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The White House won big at the Supreme Court yesterday. At The Corner, Wesley Smith worries that will make ObamaCare more popular in the next couple of months:

Sure, opponents who care a lot about the constitutionality and policy propriety of the ACA are very upset and motivated to defeat the president. But they already were. For the relatively uninvolved, the message of the Roberts ruling, despite the justice’s protests to the contrary, is that Obamacare is A-okay. That will increase the law’s popularity — just as Roe v. Wade did with abortion.  Alas.

I warned about that earlier this week, but I’m less concerned about it now.  The conclusion of the controlling opinion in the case makes it clear that ObamaCare is a massive tax, an argument conservatives have made all along.  Had the court upheld the bill on Commerce Clause grounds, it would have been much cleaner politically for the White House.  In that context, I do expect to see a little movement on ObamaCare’s popularity, but not much — and since the mandate itself remains in place, and it was the most unpopular part of the bill even before the court called it a massive tax, I don’t think that the improvement is likely to be significant.

We can get a signal from Team Obama on whether they think the court decision was a boon for their campaign.  Do they plan to make ObamaCare a major theme in the election?  To quote our illustrious President’s Twitter feed, hell no:

On Thursday, the Court upheld the law, albeit with some substantial revisions. And, as promised, Obama appeared on TV two hours later. He conceded that his signature achievement was not especially popular—“I didn’t do this because it was good politics,” he said—and right away sought to assure voters that the Court has closed the book. “If you’re one of the more than 250 million Americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.” His message seemed aimed especially at those fatigued voters. Obama promised not to “refight the political battles of two years ago.… Now’s the time to keep our focus on the most urgent challenge of our time: putting people back to work.”

One participant in the Plouffe meeting who asked not to be identified has a name for this strategy. “The White House was giving health care the Heisman,” the strategist says, referring to the iconic statue given to college football’s best player, depicting a ball carrier fending off a defender with an extended stiff arm while he runs forward. Thursday made the Heisman metaphor even more fitting: Obama’s focus has long been on the quiet implementation of the health care law. He’s downplayed it rhetorically almost since he signed it—knowing the political cost of pursuing it while recessionary fires continued to burn.

Time will tell if the decision helps Mitt Romney by reigniting the Tea Party on his behalf in this election. Matthew Continetti believes it will, calling it the Tea Party’s Roe:

Obama is wrong. The health care battle is not settled. On the contrary: Justice Roberts’s opinion has airlifted the combatants to a different battlefield altogether. By affirming the individual mandate not on the grounds of the Commerce Clause but the congressional power to tax, Roberts has, intentionally or not, exposed the president as a liar, and as willing to raise taxes on middle class. …

Obamacare since its inception has spurred conservatism. The reaction against the bill was furious, and activated millions of Americans who had not been involved before in electoral politics. The town-hall meetings that erupted into protests in 2009, the Taxpayer March on Washington on September 12 of that year, Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor rally in August 2010—they were all preludes to the incredible Republican “shellacking” of Democrats in the midterm elections. The importance of the health care overhaul in the Republican victory was evident when the first non-appropriations bill passed by this House repealed Obamacare. The intervening debates over the debt ceiling, and the ridiculous intramural squabble of the GOP primary, deflected attention from Nancy Pelosi’s “crown jewel.”

That is no longer the case. First Obamacare’s contraception mandate mobilized churches and churchgoing Catholics and pro-lifers and other friends of religious liberty against the incumbent. Then came Thursday. Roberts’s ruling in NFIB et al v.Sebelius may be seen in retrospect as the Tea Party’s Roe v. Wade, an act of judicial folly that functions as a rallying point for all those who believe the powers of the federal government are not unlimited and that the job of government is to secure our natural rights, not provide for our every material need. Like RoeSebelius is only the beginning of a fight that will operate for years on the executive, judicial, and legislative branches and at all levels of government.

It is up to Romney, Republicans, and the Tea Party to remind Obama, the Democrats, and the progressives that just as there are no final victories in politics, there are no final defeats. Ignore the president. Romney needs to refight and re-litigate Obamacare, and he needs to do it now.

After striking a quick Heisman pose, though, Team Obama seems very uninterested in lingering on this subject in the election.  That’s almost certainly a wise decision on their part, but it’s not going to make people forget about it, and it certainly won’t help people change their minds on ObamaCare, either.

Update: Survey USA conducted three statewide polls overnight of likely voters on the Supreme Court decision to see if it would move the needle.  So far, the results look pretty poor for Obama.

  • California – In one of the liberal bastions of Obama’s support, 45% disagreed with the Court ruling that ObamaCare is constitutional, with 44% agreeing.  Nearly three-quarters expect their health care to get worse (38%) or stay the same (34%), as opposed to just 23% who expect it to improve now that ObamaCare will be implemented.  And this is thebest results of the three states.
  • Kansas – Romney’s going to win Kansas anyway, but the numbers here are still bad news for Obama’s hopes in the Midwest.  52% disagree with the court, as opposed to only 38% who agree, with 48% expecting their health care to get worse as a result.  Only 16% think it will improve.
  • Florida – This state actually matters, and it looks bad for Obama here, too.  Voters disagree with the court 50/39, 47% expect their health care to get worse while only 20% expect it to improve, and 51% think it will get more expensive, too.  Only 6% of Florida seniors expect health-care costs to decline, while 44% expect costs to rise.

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Last I heard he had actually raised close to $4 million since the ruling came down. That was with NO effort on Romney’s part.

And I got more bad news for you genius, it wasn’t from “hundreds of millionaires.”

Flora Duh on June 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Romney also has more than a couple Billionaires backing him. One has said that he is willing to spend whatever it takes to get rid of Barack Obama.

In other news the DNC can’t raise enough money for their convention in N.C., but that’s okay, many democrat candidates don’t intend on attending anyway ;)

People are definitely inspired to donate to Romney now.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM

The great Republican dream — “throw money at it” and it will be fixed.

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Oh, you mean like these “green companies” that Republicans tried to fix by throwing money at them? Oh, wait – nevermind…
________________________________________________________________

Solar Trust of America: FAIL
Bright Source: FAIL
Solyndra: FAIL
LSP Energy: FAIL
Energy Conversion Devices: FAIL
Abound Solar: FAIL
SunPower: FAIL
Beacon Power: FAIL
Ecotality: FAIL
A123 Solar: FAIL
UniSolar: FAIL
Azure Dynamics: FAIL
Evergreen Solar: FAIL
Ener1: FAIL

Dopenstrange on June 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I think 20 and 30 somethings who are unmarried and living the good life are going to be hit by this. Many don’t have health ins because they feel they don’t need it or they have catastrophic coverage tailored to their needs. Now they’ll have to buy one of these plans covering everything or pay the “tax”. I wish it was starting now so they could see the monies they won’t be taking home before they vote in November.

xkaydet65 on June 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM

The great Republican dream — “throw money at it” and it will be fixed.

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

The demorat dream – “throw other people’s money at it, if it sticks take credit, if it doesn’t; blame Bush”

Tbone McGraw on June 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Romney actually has a 50-50 chance, and if he out raises Obama with campaign donations, he may actually have a monetary advantage going into the November election.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Romney will beat Obama. He’s going to be a big disappointment, but he’ll take out Obama. Obama is running against himself.

rickv404 on June 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

You live up to your screen name all you produce is a load of feces.

chemman on June 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Might get a little bump at first as the MSM glosses over the details and just celebrates how awesome it all is for their guy.

But in the end it’s going to cost Obama the election.

forest on June 29, 2012 at 10:49 AM

You need to unplug your Limbaugh and smell the reality. The economy is coming back to life. Americans aren’t going to give the GOP a chance to screw it up again.

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Really? GDP at 1.9 real gangbusters, jobless claims at 383k , wait till you see the ER go from 8.2 to 8.4 that will show improvement.

You are a mental midget with your faxed talking points. Obamacare is going to lose jobs, keep reading your memos

Conservative4ev on June 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM

But most Americans don’t want your ugly, failed vision.

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Socialism like that espoused by your Party has been a huge success wherever it’s been tried, hasn’t it?

Hasn’t it?

BTW I had bifidis once. Took care of it with a tube of Preparation H.

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Love that popular opinion is solid that John Roberts did not uphold the constitution.

How must it feel for the rest of your life to walk in the knowledge that you sacrificed your honor for political expediency and image?

LetsBfrank on June 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Florida Seniors? Hahaha…like Obama’care’ isn’t going to kill them by the hundreds of thousands in the next 4 years. Good luck suckers. You’re the first to fall, and being that a good bunch of you reflexively vote Democrat…here’s your Darwin Award.

Abiss on June 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM

The economy is coming back to life.

getalife on June 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Where?

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM

This is Obama’s “mission accomplished” moment.

booter on June 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM

You know it is bad if Democrats would rather run on the economy ObamaTax

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM

O-Tax is a Ponzi Scheme of sorts. The young subsidize the old with no assurance of getting the same care from the Great Death Panel.

I’d be even more p*ssed were I younger.

LetsBfrank on June 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM

forest on June 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Your reasoning is flawed. Get worse/more expensive helps Republicans and hurts Democrats. Stays the same/gets better/gets less expensive helps Democrats and hurts Republicans. Right now, the numbers are on the Democrat’s side.

Conservatives are never going to get anywhere by convincing themselves that they are winning when they are not.

Mr. Arkadin on June 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM

I’ll keep this simple and straight forward for you. You are wrong. 0 is done. Romney is the next President of the US. We will keep the House and with just a little luck the Senate. 0 care will be completely abolished by next February. So my advice to you, start preparing yourself mentally for the challenge that lay ahead for you and your ilk. Your time to suck on the Government teet is short.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Exactly how big of a majority do you think we’re going to get in November? Because having just 51 is not going to cut it.

Scott Brown, despite getting elected to vote against it, won’t.

Murkowski, nope.

How about Collins? Zip.

McCain, Mr. Mavericky Maverick? Nada.

WisRich on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Romney will beat Obama. He’s going to be a big disappointment, but he’ll take out Obama. Obama is running against himself.

rickv404 on June 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

I am glad you can see the future and know he will be a big disappointment. For those of us that can’t see the future, is it okay if we wait and see how he governs before deciding that?

milcus on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

The demorats do have a slight advantage over conservatives. They get to stay home and collect off the welfare system and blog and post while we work, but like all demorats, when the real work needs to be done; they will just take a nap and wait for their check. It all comes out in the wash. Romney 73% Obumbler 27% – You heard it here first! There’s only so many liberal rats on the dole and most won’t go out unless they receive some sort of prize.

Tbone McGraw on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Romney will beat Obama. He’s going to be a big disappointment, but he’ll take out Obama. Obama is running against himself.

rickv404 on June 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I do think Romney’s going to have the monetary edge, but the democrats are hoping they can scare their base by calling Romney the second coming of George W Bush. A return to Bush economic policies that created the financial crisis. As if Obama ever changed any of those policies..

I was on the phone with a friend living in New York, the other night. She told me that Obama inherited a terrible economy, it was Bush’s fault, and that the economy was turning around.

Democrats have bought this narrative, hook, line, and sinker.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Conservatives are never going to get anywhere by convincing themselves that they are winning when they are not.

Mr. Arkadin on June 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Just a little ray of sunshine, aren’t you? Are you Dante’s brother?

kingsjester on June 29, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Conservative4ev on June 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM

You are absolutely correct Sir.

DDay on June 29, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Democrats have bought this narrative, hook, line, and sinker.
Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Except for the one’s who’ve lost their jobs, homes, retirement savings and dreams.

tommyboy on June 29, 2012 at 11:43 AM

O-Tax is a Ponzi Scheme of sorts. The young subsidize the old with no assurance of getting the same care from the Great Death Panel.

I’d be even more p*ssed were I younger.

LetsBfrank on June 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM

I heard it was a Poll Tax, and that it’s illegal.

Poll Tax:
A tax levied on every adult, without reference to their income or resources.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:46 AM

(If you drive a car ), I’ll tax the street,
(If you try to sit ), I’ll tax your seat,
(If you get too cold ), I’ll tax the heat,
(If you take a walk ), I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman.

OTax-aCare

kirkill on June 29, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Democrats have bought this narrative, hook, line, and sinker.
Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Except for the one’s who’ve lost their jobs, homes, retirement savings and dreams.

tommyboy on June 29, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Don’t underestimate the lefts capacity of self delusion.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:48 AM

The great Republican dream — “throw money at it” and it will be fixed.

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

What?

Are you a comedian?

Geez, the progressives have been reading 1984 not as a book of entertainment but like an instruction manual.

Dude, you’re nuts. Throwing my money at your invented problems has “always” been the Donk playbook. You making a stupid statement like that doesn’t change decades of evidence otherwise.

hawkdriver on June 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

ROFLMAO..dude you need to pull your head out of Obama’s arse. You’re phreaking clueless to what Americans want. And the economy is coming back to life…hahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahhahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhah….whew…hahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahhahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahhahhahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhah….whew…you’re as delusional as you are ignorant.

HumpBot Salvation on June 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Someone named after bacteria probably enjoys it up there.

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Except for the one’s who’ve lost their jobs, homes, retirement savings and dreams.

tommyboy on June 29, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Don’t underestimate the lefts capacity of self delusion.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:48 AM

indeed, I have a few well educated, liberal friends that when asked direct questions, answer them in a positively conservative way…then I ask why they still vote for Democrats…and it seems it’s just like the Stepford wives…they are programmed that way.

kirkill on June 29, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I haven’t seen this many Libs on Hot Gas in a long time. Obviously they’re particularly energized by yesterdays ruling.

Yay! Good for them.

What I find so hilarious is the cognitive dissonance they’re all suffering from. Obama is now saddled with the largest middle class tax increase in the history of the world during one of the worst global economic down turns most of us have ever seen. You should be so proud! Congrats.

Add to that the virtual poison that #Obamacare was before it became #Obamatax and one has to truly wonder how anyone following politics could possibly deem this as a winner. Sure, Obamacare gets to stand. But the mandate has been replaced by an epic tax increase.

The conservative ground swell of support that swept a Republican into Teddy Kennedy’s seat, took back the House in record setting fashion, and kept Scott Walker into office is now focused like a laser beam on the big prize.

We’ll see how many cocky libs come around Nov 7th. lol I’m really looking forward to that.

Fish on June 29, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Bifidis says:

The great Republican dream — “throw money at it” and it will be fixed.

I thought we were the mean old tightwad party who hoards our money.

Sheesh, pick a side. Then try real hard to have a semi firm opinion. Dems have always shoveled money (other peoples’) at a problem, then shut their eyes, plugged their ears and run around droning “we-can’t-hear-you-we-can’t-hear-you…”

Just pick a side, Love. Then use a real argument. Skippy outspent us by a LOT in ’08. He may be the first incumbent Pres to be outspent this time cause your guy turned out to be a great campaigner amd a lousy leader. See how that works?

*snicker*

Nana on June 29, 2012 at 11:57 AM

So we at the very least need a Constitutional Amendment limiting Congress’s tax power.

Gah! There already is a limit on tax power. It’s called the American people. We decide how much we’ll be taxed through our political choices. That’s what Roberts meant when he said it isn’t the court’s job to protect the American people from their political choices.

Kim Priestap on June 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM

The great Republican dream — “throw money at it” and it will be fixed.

The great Democrat dream – Kill off the elderly baby boomers to save Social Security and medicare. Or at least the ones who don’t live on either coast.

tommyboy on June 29, 2012 at 11:59 AM

indeed, I have a few well educated credentialed, liberal progressive friends that when asked direct questions, answer them in a positively conservative way…then I ask why they still vote for Democrats…and it seems it’s just like the Stepford wives…they are programmed that way.

kirkill on June 29, 2012 at 11:52 AM

FIFY. If they were well educated they wouldn’t be progressives.

chemman on June 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Your reasoning is flawed. Get worse/more expensive helps Republicans and hurts Democrats. Stays the same/gets better/gets less expensive helps Democrats and hurts Republicans. Right now, the numbers are on the Democrat’s side.

Conservatives are never going to get anywhere by convincing themselves that they are winning when they are not.

Mr. Arkadin on June 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Wrong, and I explained why at the end of my comment:

These are terrible numbers for an expensive scheme that was supposed to reduce costs and improve care.

forest on June 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Obama claimed it would reduce costs and improve care. Anyone who thinks things will stay the same does not believe Obama’s claims. This is bad for Obama. I don’t know how to explain this any more simply for you.

Besides, the un-spun, uncombined numbers are clearly running against Obama: Worse care 47%, Better care 20%. Not close.

forest on June 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Poll Tax: A tax levied on every adult, without reference to their income or resources.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Roberts certainly opened a can of worms, politically and for the judiciary.

And certainly Obama and Reid want us to “move on.” They don’t want a whole lot of attention paid to the tax increase they enacted without knowing what they were doing; or, that they enacted knowing what they were doing but lied through their teeth about — either way the subject is not attractive for the Obama campaign.

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on June 29, 2012 at 12:08 PM

You need to unplug your Limbaugh and smell the reality. The economy is coming back to life. Americans aren’t going to give the GOP a chance to screw it up again.

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What you’re smelling, that isn’t “the reality”. But it is being shoveled your way, and apparently you’re happy with it.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300000

Look at that chart, that is the employment of the workforce chart (percentage of Americans over 16 with a job).

See the 2008 crash? Yep, obvious.

See the massive recovery Obama got us… nope. I see bouncing along the bottom for 3 years with no recovery. End of recession, June 2009, 59.4% employment. Current 58.6%.

You’re “bouncing back” with a flat basketball.

The historical precedent in America is the deeper the recession, the stronger the recovery, as the American economy accelerates to return to its long-term trend line.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/22/us-still-stuck-in-recession/

So we’re in the strongest recovery in 50 years, right?

Can you show us where that recovery is, or explain why ONLY this one time deep recession isn’t a strong recovery; but it isn’t the government’s fault that their plans didn’t work, that killing energy production and squashing jobs with regulations isn’t the problem?

Pretending there isn’t a problem doesn’t make the problem go away. I’d prefer to see reality, not smell it… and what I’m seeing isn’t the economy bouncing back.

gekkobear on June 29, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Potential Republican commercial spoofing the old Twlight Zone episode “TO SERVE MAN”:

Woman runs up to husband about to get onboard the O-ship to Otopia waving a thick sheaf of papers- the Obamacare Tax Bill:

“Wait! Don’t get onboard! They lied! Obamacare! It’s a Cook Tax Book!”

profitsbeard on June 29, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Woman runs up to husband about to get onboard the O-ship to Otopia

profitsbeard on June 29, 2012 at 12:12 PM

I chuckled. O-Ship…rofl.

Bishop on June 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I haven’t said buck ofama for a while

Slade73 on June 29, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Ed:

Seriously. Stop writing.Your opinions are nearly worthless.

DevilsPrinciple on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Comming up: a few million irate Catholics will soon be in BHO’s grill. I believe it was Mike Huckabee who said “we are all Catholics now”.
-
Stay tuned.

diogenes on June 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Ed:
Seriously. Stop writing.Your opinions are nearly worthless.
DevilsPrinciple on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Go read another blog.

txhsmom on June 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM

…I can’t wait until November!
…of course…I was looking FORWARD to yesterday and that did not turn out like I thought…so we better get to work!

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 12:29 PM

I haven’t said buck ofama for a while
Slade73 on June 29, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Reminds me of when Obama told us all to “buck up”. It was really early in his term and the health care debate. My TEA Party sign said, “Obama bucked up America”. And he has.

txhsmom on June 29, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Ed:
Seriously. Stop writing.Your opinions are nearly worthless.
DevilsPrinciple on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Go read another blog.

txhsmom on June 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM

…better yet DipSh!t….go reincarnate yourself!

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Ugh. I was feeling much more optimistic this morning. After listening to Rush for the past half hour my blood is boiling again! Screw this. I’m taking my Granny to see Magic Mike and escape this madness for a while.

Nikkia2112 on June 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM

@ txhsmom

He told a black audience to stop whinin’ while droppin’ his g’s

the man has no shame

Slade73 on June 29, 2012 at 12:36 PM

The Tea Party folks are going to be out in force in November. They are energized, focused and educated. The curtain has been pulled back and Obamacare has been defined as huge TAX increase. A bill that will overhaul the entire healthcare system in the United States ………….. and, no one knows its real impact or cost. Politicians time and time again promise things to get elected and reelected. They live high and well and are usually dead before the final bill comes due. And, that bill has to be paid for by the next generation.

One final thing to say, from where are these new doctors going to come. We have doctor shortage in this country now. And, many doctors are threatening to stop seeing Medicare and Medicaid patients.

SC.Charlie on June 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Keeping it classy Mr. President……….

https://twitter.com/BarackObama/statuses/218527805934280705

Beautiful.

PappyD61 on June 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Ed:
Seriously. Stop writing.Your opinions are nearly worthless.

DevilsPrinciple on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Door’s that way, toothpick-dick. Don’t let it hit you on the way out.

MelonCollie on June 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Ed:
Seriously. Stop writing.Your opinions are nearly worthless.

DevilsPrinciple on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Door’s that way, toothpick-dick. Don’t let it hit you on the way out.

MelonCollie on June 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM

LMAO!

ToddPA on June 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

I think 20 and 30 somethings who are unmarried and living the good life are going to be hit by this. Many don’t have health ins because they feel they don’t need it or they have catastrophic coverage tailored to their needs. Now they’ll have to buy one of these plans covering everything or pay the “tax”. I wish it was starting now so they could see the monies they won’t be taking home before they vote in November.

xkaydet65 on June 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Yep, imagine the scene at the group home where 4 young males are rooming together, and then at halftime they discuss their latest visit to the OB/GYN and upcoming mammograms.

Why not? They’re paying for the coverage.

BobMbx on June 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

toothpick

tee hee

Slade73 on June 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Door’s that way, toothpick-dick. Don’t let it hit you on the way out.

That’s why liberals are always angry. They can run into a wall with an erection and still break their nose.

Tbone McGraw on June 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM

To the Obama Supporters who say IT IS NOT A TAX – Roberts made it a tax, ask: So then you are willing to repeal it to keep Obama’s promise of not raising taxes on the middle class?

txmomof6 on June 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM

This is what the upcoming House vote is about–to get the Dooms on record, and it would be even better if we could get the Senate Dooms on record–Do you support this tax or not? It’ll make for good campaign fodder for Repubs.

stukinIL4now on June 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Why not? They’re paying for the coverage.

BobMbx on June 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Or they could be getting a rectal exam from the IRS if they do not have insurance coverage.

I think it will be interesting when this sinks in to the 99%/ows that they will not be able to soak the rich for the mandated obama tax. It’s their penalty.

meMC on June 29, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Hey bifi DUH…

The court ruling yesterday has had the same effect on the conservative AND independent base that the late night closed door passage of the Obamacare debacle.

When the law was passed the Tea Party was born and all hell broke lose in the 2010 elections for the libs..as Obama said..he took a “shellacking”….I just heard this morning that Romeny has accumulated $4M + in donations since the ruling…

2012 will be another shellacking..just like 2010″.

Change your channel from PMS-NBC once in awhile and you might see what happens in the real world

LaRepublican on June 29, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Gah! There already is a limit on tax power. It’s called the American people. We decide how much we’ll be taxed through our political choices. That’s what Roberts meant when he said it isn’t the court’s job to protect the American people from their political choices.

Kim Priestap on June 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM

So, given Robert’s ruling yesterday, what exactly is the purpose of the Supreme Court? Why are we paying for the building upkeep and all those offices and clerks as well as his salary and those of his fellow justices? Based upon his own decision yesterday, he basically stated that the job of the SC was to find some reason, any reason that a law passed by Congress (will not say duly passed, because ObamaTax was not duly passed, it was passed by skulduggery and bribery in the dead of night) is Constitutional. He further made the statement that it is not the business of the court to protect the American people from political choices and demonstrated this by his decision affirming even if the laws passed by those politicians are unconstitutional, the court will find a way to hold them constitutional. Therefore, in his ruling, CJ Roberts just stated that his court has no reason to exist.

AZfederalist on June 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM

The great Republican dream — “throw money at it” and it will be fixed.

bifidis on June 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Well, we throw our own money at a problem. You throw other people’s money at a “problem” and expect us to be grateful to you.

JeffWeimer on June 29, 2012 at 1:42 PM

I was on the phone with a friend living in New York, the other night. She told me that Obama inherited a terrible economy, it was Bush’s fault, and that the economy was turning around.

Democrats have bought this narrative, hook, line, and sinker.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I was reminded of this quote when I read your friend’s response. Use it freely — it’s a perfect description of the Democrats:

“A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.” — Saul Bellow

PatriotGal2257 on June 29, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Just heard on ABC radio that Obama is saying only 1% of population will be affected by the “tax” for not buying health insurance! Low income people will be exempt.

Sooooo, for this 1% of slackers—the people who were the free rides and for which the President says we pay for—we need to blow up the health care system.

I also understand that those poor pre-condition people we blew up the system for constitute less than 1%.

And for those who go bankrupt because of health care, I’ve got to ask: why didn’t you make provision? And bankrupt doesn’t mean you lose everything. It mainly means you just don’t have to pay any of your bills. If you have a lot of equity in your house, you don’t get to be bankrupt anyway. And if you need to drive a clunker instead of a great new car, that’s life. Hospitals and doctors will work with you. This is waaaaay overblown.

In the meantime, Republicans need to start telling personal stories too. Like me. I live in Maryland and here’s a list of what the Democrats are going to do to us:

College graduate son can’t get job except in general construction. He’s making all payments but insurance and gas. We’ll now have to pay his taxes (because he won’t be able to afford the level of insurance Obama demands) or he goes to jail. He’s a white, young male. He won’t be exempt from anything and there will be no benefits accrue to him from the feds.

Before Obamacare, I had a Cadillac plan. Thank God, I got cancer before Obamacare. Enter the savior of the middle class and his bill and my very large company cut our benefits this year. Example: what was a $300 deductible is now $3000. Next year our premiums for even fewer benefits will rise 130%. My large company can’t afford to pay 40% tax on our benefits. I will bet dollars to donuts that by 2016, I will have no health insurance. Medicare–which will be my alternative—no doctor where I live is taking new Medicare patients. They can’t afford it.

My husband will be in a wheelchair (which will be taxed because it’s a medical device) in two years because he can’t get a knee replacement. I can get a free mamogram, but if my cancer comes back because I’m over 60, I will get no treatment. As Obama says: sometimes you’ve just got to take the pill.

Money we stashed instead of living the high life? (dividends) Obama will take 43% of it (it’s now 15%). Our income tax will increase 3% and last year after we both took the highest withholding, we paid $8000. Next year, it could wipe out our savings.

Maryland increased income taxes for us “millionaires” (anyone earning over $100,000 a year—my husband and I have worked 100 years to get to our income level and we are not rich). We will get an 8% increase in our gas tax; a “flush” tax (we rich folk need to pay a premium for our cr*p so Baltimore can flush free); our counties will be paying for the retirement of public employees and I cannot get an answer as to what that means to our county income taxes and our property taxes; a tax for watching TV…and I could go on and on and on.

We’d sell our house but it’s worthless (depreciated in the market but surprise! Tax assessor says it’s gone up.)

Bottom line? I warned that the victims of Obama would be anyone who’s worked and saved and paid their bills. He’s going to do us in and whatever he leaves, O’Malley’s taking.

Portia46 on June 29, 2012 at 2:36 PM

So if Obama ignores the law, and Mitt attacks it, who controls the narrative? Obama may like to ignore the whole thing but everyone else will be talking about how bad it is for the next 4 months. Politically the game shifted in Mitt’s direction.

Fred 2 on June 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Romney must hang the “Obowma tax increase for all” banner on Obowma and especially rally the students and the middle class families. THE MIDDLE CLASS JUST RECEIVED THE LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

dthorny on June 29, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Portia46 on June 29, 2012 at 2:36 PM

And besides all of that, your State Reps don’t appear to be of any help. The only thing I would suggest is to contact your local Tea Party Group. They may have some way for you to be heard at the Federal level.

This may be of some help to your situation and also provide those that are trying to do something about this Obamacare an example of real life due to this repressive Tax.

bluefox on June 29, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Contrary to this post’s premise, over the last week while the subject has been health care rather than the economy, Obama’s polling has improved. Some is a decline in Romney’s vote, possibly due to Obama’s negative ad campaign in the swing states, but switching the subject sure has not hurt Obama yet.

KW64 on June 29, 2012 at 4:25 PM

WisRich on June 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Don’t know. My Senator seems to like the scenario. Isakson thinks 51 is doable. Of course we could just give up. Is that what you would suggest us do?

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Ed:
Seriously. Stop writing.Your opinions are nearly worthless.
DevilsPrinciple on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Really? Kinda a surprise coming from you the greatest Conservative of all time. Of course your comments suck, so there’s that. Hey here’s an idea. You’re worthless, leave.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Ed:

Seriously. Stop writing.Your opinions are nearly worthless.

DevilsPrinciple on June 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Worth less than that comment? I don’t think so.

tom on June 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

bifidis

stupidsonofab!tch…translates from what language?

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

“If you’re one of the more than 250 million Americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”

Yeah. Unless your company decides it’s cheaper to pay the find and let you purchase insurance on your own.

And if you have Medicare Advantage, Her Highness of Health Care will let you keep it for one more year. Don’t want TO KILL IT this October. What with elections coming up the following month.

GarandFan on June 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM

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