Boehner: Today’s ruling “underscores the urgency of repealing this harmful law in its entirety”

posted at 1:21 pm on June 28, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Allright, guys. I gave myself ten minutes to sit with my head on my desk in a lethargic state of despair and stupefaction — and now I’m officially over it. The individual mandate is here: There’s nothing for it but to keep fighting to ensure it dies a quick death. And you know, now that I’m really thinking about it, despite the Supreme Court’s ruling that the individual mandate can basically work within the confines of the Constitution, I can’t help feeling that President Obama is still going to rue the day he ever signed his name on this egregiously intrusive monstrosity of a law. Yes, it’s technically a victory of sorts for Obama & Friends, but the fact remains that, by and large, Americans hate this thing. It grates against the very core of our personal-responsibility-lovin’ souls. Is this ruling going to inspire the type of 2010-reminiscent anti-government rage we need to put us over the edge in the November elections? I refuse to give up hope.

And now on to the reactions of some of our Congressional leaders. Speaker of the House John Boehner issued his statement of resolve quickly following the ruling:

“The president’s health care law is hurting our economy by driving up health costs and making it harder for small businesses to hire.  Today’s ruling underscores the urgency of repealing this harmful law in its entirety.  What Americans want is a common-sense, step-by-step approach to health care reform that will protect Americans’ access to the care they need, from the doctor they choose, at a lower cost.  Republicans stand ready to work with a president who will listen to the people and will not repeat the mistakes that gave our country ObamaCare.”

In other words, this legislation drastically changes the outlook for small businesses, and our economy will not recover while we’re under its death grip — but all is not lost if we can get Mitt Romney, who has promised to file repeal legislation on the theoretical first day he takes office, to oust President Obama. Looks like the Speaker is going to hold a House vote on fully repealing the PPACA before the big recess, although it will be more of a solidarity-move than anything else:

House Republicans scheduled a vote to repeal the law for July 11. They have made similar attempts in the past, but their legislation has failed in the Senate, where a supermajority of 60 votes are needed to advance legislation.

While of course a full repeal holds no hope in the Senate at the moment, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell had some fightin’ words:

Truth. Here’s Rep. Allen West‘s (R-Florida) powerful statement lamenting the ramifications of the ruling:

“The United States Supreme Court has ruled to uphold the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act by extending the power of the United States Congress to tax Americans’ behavior.  This is a sad day for Americans, as they will be taxed to pay for benefits they may not need or want as part of the insurance they are forced to buy. With this decision, Congress has been granted infinite taxation power, and there are no longer any limits on what the federal government can tax its citizens to do.

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will hit the middle class especially hard, as hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost as businesses try to avoid the penalties and costs created by the healthcare law. The healthcare law will cost trillions of dollars, raise costs for employers and create huge incentives for them to drop health insurance.

Benjamin Franklin did indeed state, ‘In this world, nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.’ However, Dr. Franklin never envisioned the federal government would use its power of taxation to punish people for not purchasing health care.  Today, individual sovereignty in America has been defeated.”

And here are Florida Republican and possible Veep-contender Sen. Marco Rubio‘s thoughts:

“What’s important to remember is that what the Court rules on is whether something is constitutional or not, not whether it’s a good idea. And while the Court has said that the law is constitutional, it remains a bad idea for our economy, and I hope that in the fall we will have a majority here that will not just repeal this law, but replace it with real solutions that will insure more people and cost a lot less money.”

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand, was somewhat more gleeful about the Supreme Court’s ruling:

Huh. I don’t happen to see it that way.

Chins up, friends — we can still do this.


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Sorry, cheerleading isn’t enough, even if you put on the uniform and used the pom poms.

TheLastBrainLeft on June 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM

If Boehner goes through with a repeal vote, it will put Democrats on the spot:

If Democrats vote to uphold Obamacare, they are voting to uphold a $1.3 trillion tax increase on the middle class and poor. The wealthy almost always have full coverage, so the individual mandate tax penalty will not apply to them.

Remember, the Supreme Court ruling today said Obamacare not only can be paid for with a tax, but it has to be paid for by a tax, since the individual mandate went well beyond what the Commerce Clause allows. Supporting Obamacare = supporting a huge regressive tax increase.

Of course, this only works if Boehner and Co. actually push repeal vote…

MidniteRambler on June 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Patrick Henry – March 23, 1775

November 6, 2012 – The day we take OUR country back.

kingsjester on June 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

NOVEMBER 6TH: OUR TURN!

The War Planner on June 28, 2012 at 1:55 PM

There’s a lot of talk about the issue of the HHS waivers from Obamacare on one of the other threads, and whether its even legal for them to do that. And Scalia’s dissent brings up another issue besides the waiver.

Scalia talks about the issue of whether or not this is a direct tax under the constitution, and he says that is a very unclear area of the law that was never even briefed to the court in the Obamacare case, and would be an issue of first impression for the SCOTUS.

Sounds a lot like Scalia is pointing the way to yet another lawsuit by the states to challenge Obamacare.

This whole “it’s a tax” ruling appears to be opening a whole new can of worms.

AZCoyote on June 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

crickets chirping when the contempt vote occurs…too much spiking of the football on the lsm….

john roberts at 7am was evil activist
john roberts now is bloody brilliant in the lsm eyes…

cmsinaz on June 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

wren on June 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Josh Mandel is running against Sherrod Brown in Ohio.

http://jobs.joshmandel.com/

Bitter Clinger on June 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

The Affordable Care Act polls poorly because it is very misunderstood. And it is misunderstood for four reasons:
1) It’s complex. Americans don’t do well with complex.
2) Poor messaging by its supporters
3) Complete ball-drop by the mainstream media in explaining it
4) Extremely successful lies and demagoguery from the right.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM

5) It discourages companies to hire more than 50 employees
6) Raises taxes on Americans by over a trillion dollars
7) Slashes Medicare by over $500 billion dollars
8) Redistributes wealth from the healthy to the unhealth – no matter their income level
9) Is completely unsustainable
10) Will increase the cost of insurance dramatically due to taxes and mandates on insurance companies
11) Forces everyone to pay for covered items the vast majority don’t need, like pre-natal, drug rehab, depression
12) Does absolutely nothing to address health care costs, just insurance prices
13) Tens of millions will lose their insurance and be thrown on government programs
14) Half of the projected 30 million newly insured were just thrown on Medicare – until the ruling today.

And on and on.

Chuck Schick on June 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

AZCoyote on June 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

lets do it…

cmsinaz on June 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) voted in favor of Obamacare. Now she needs to be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE.

Elizabeth Emken is the Republican candidate who is running against Senator Feinstein in California.

You can learn more about Elizabeth Emken at her campaign website:

http://www.emken2012.com/

wren on June 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

crickets chirping when the contempt vote occurs…too much spiking of the football on the lsm….

john roberts at 7am was evil activist
john roberts now is bloody brilliant in the lsm eyes…

cmsinaz on June 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

4 d’s so far. No R’s against.

VegasRick on June 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM

We’re not going to mandate that you bow down and worship Obama, but if you don’t, you’ll face a tax penalty.

The Rogue Tomato on June 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Why do you feel the need to crap in every thread with your idiocy?

JPeterman on June 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

The rest of what you call “lies” were opinions and predictions you don’t agree with, but which do agree with the world’s experience with every other socialized medicine program ever established.

Socratease on June 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

It doesn’t matter how many times you repeat it: a lie is still a lie. The ACA is not “socialized medicine.” It relies overwhelmingly on the free market, leaving in place employer-provided insurance and Medicare. It offers credits to Americans of modest means to help them buy private insurance. The individual mandate is a conservative idea to solve the problem of the “free rider,” back when conservatism had something to do with the idea of individual responsibility.

The law does not take over hospitals, it does not employ physicians and it does not offer government-sponsored insurance to all. It’s markedly different from health care systems in Canada or Great Britain and is nothing close to a government takeover.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I think it’s time that only those that are not millionaires be allowed to server in congress. The ones there are so far out of touch as to be sadly funny, Ms. Pelosi being the prime example.
sadatoni on June 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Good luck with that. By the way where we’re you when the Koch’s bought Wisconsin? I see, you only get concerned when the bought politician does something anti your ideology.

Uppereastside on June 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Obamacare is here to say. And Obama will be re-elected. It’s over. We lost. The last protection we had against unconstitutional overreaches by liberals is gone.

Aodhan on June 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Oh for the love of Pete, stop. Are you really so easily beaten down? This is NOT over. The suspense is over, we know what we have to fight, and you give up today? Really?

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

I understand Aodhan’s sentiment, there are those inside the republican party that will only want to adopt the status qou, and work around this monstrosity. So who exactly going to fight? When there are so many willing to compromise either way we are still expected to swallow this sh1t sandwich. According to John Roberts we order it.

Michelle Malkin: Where does presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney stand? Despite repeated assurances that he will abandon Obamacare in its entirety, Romney is surrounded by GOP socialized medicine helpmates. In January, Romney adviser Norm Coleman said, “(We’re) not going to repeal the act in its entirety … you can’t whole cloth throw it out.”

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

http://issues.oversight.house.gov/fastandfurious/

canopfor on June 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Ha Ha… I know. I will say the only nice thing I have ever said about liberals. They are good at drama! What I have found funny listening to them today, they aren’t even as up to date on the facts as Hot Air commenters. They are still whining about Bushs’ AG not being called before the committee, even though Holder admitted they were lying when they said he knew about F&F.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

This is nothing but a massive TAX INCREASE – and obama and his democrats have to run on passing it.

Pork-Chop on June 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

I still maintain that this decision is on the same order as Dredd Scott. It may not have been through the magical Commerce Clause, but SCOTUS essentially eliminated any restriction on the federal government, as long as they can spin their power grab as a tax. Even if Obamacare is repealed, the precedent that said it was constitutional still remains.

If the federal government can just willy nilly tax anything and has always had this power constitutionally, why did we need a constitutional amendment to add income tax to the list of powers given to the feds?

Weebork on June 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

If there’s any saving grace in this–and I use that term very lightly–liberals will finally have to pay from their own pockets for once instead of relying on other people’s money like they have the last fifty years.

Liam on June 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

It’s ON! I’m ready! Let’s ROLL!

neyney on June 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

“The United States Supreme Court has ruled to uphold the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act by extending the power of the United States Congress to tax Americans’ behavior

Boy did that ship sail a long time ago.

The United States Congress has been doing little else besides taxing American’s behavior for decades. Just ask any smoker.

Every tax credit or specialized deduction from home mortgage interest to energy credits is in effect a greater tax on the people who do not behave in the way the government wants them to behave as well.

I greatly admire Colonel West, but he probably should have thought that that statement through a little better.

MessesWithTexas on June 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Typical of Tyrone West. Someone needs to tell him kid n play is so 1980.

Uppereastside on June 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Someone needs to inform you that Crack pipes on
the Uppereastside can damage your grey matter.

BTW, nice racist post.

ToddPA on June 28, 2012 at 2:03 PM

when is “My People” Holder going to get his a$$ handed to him?

ted c on June 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Happening now. First of 3 procedural votes passed on voice vote (agreeing to the contempt resolution) with 12 Democrats (so far, they’re still counting the recorded vote) siding with the majority.

de rigueur on June 28, 2012 at 2:03 PM

And what’s with this “Affordable Care Act” crap? It’s Obamacare.

CurtZHP on June 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

You can consider its contents crap if you want, Sparky, but the actual name of the health care law is the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. That’s not as oversimplified and catchy as “Obamacare,” of course. I still think that the right will come to regret that moniker as the law continues to go into effect and improve the lives of Americans.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Earlier this month, Romney named former Utah GOP Gov. Mike Leavitt his transition leader. Leavitt supports and has profited handsomely from Obamacare’s health care exchange mandate. Then there’s the Romneycare mandate in Massachusetts, conceived by Obamacare architect and MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, which includes the very same slacker mandate provision enshrined in the Democrats’ law.
Who needs enemies when you’ve got Republican Surrenderists for Obamacare waiting in the wings?

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

man, it is sickening the way the lsm is praising roberts today…he was evil incarnate just this am….obama voted against his nomination…

side with dems you’re aok
side with gop you’re evil

cmsinaz on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

It doesn’t matter how many times you repeat it: a lie is still a lie. The ACA is not “socialized medicine.” It relies overwhelmingly on the free market, leaving in place employer-provided insurance and Medicare. It offers credits to Americans of modest means to help them buy private insurance. The individual mandate is a conservative idea to solve the problem of the “free rider,” back when conservatism had something to do with the idea of individual responsibility.

The law does not take over hospitals, it does not employ physicians and it does not offer government-sponsored insurance to all. It’s markedly different from health care systems in Canada or Great Britain and is nothing close to a government takeover.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

You’re quite right- it’s a boondoggle to insurance companies. It diverts half a trillion from the one federal single-payer program we have, Medicare, and gives it to corporations.

Which is why real liberals I know badmouth the law as much as I do. But you’re just a partisan hack that will support whatever your party does.

Chuck Schick on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Healthcare industry stocks are up. The mandate will never be repealed.

libfreeordie on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Uppereastside on June 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I see you’re either parroting or actually believe the lie that the result in Wisconsin was due to the Dem’s being outspent. Either you didn’t see or ignored all the data that showed that dollar for dollar the spend was fairly even if you took what was spent by all the pro-recall groups and compared it to what was spent by all the pro-governor groups.

But, assuming your claim about Wisconsin were true (which it isn’t), I would hope you’d be able to see the difference between a ton of money being spent to attempt to influence voters and a ton of money being spent to buy the vote of a politician.

In the first case, individual voters are still free to make the decision the deem best.

In the second case, a person that was put there to serve the people is now serving the person that bought their vote.

These things are not the same.

JadeNYU on June 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

This is nothing but a massive TAX INCREASE – and obama and his democrats have to run on passing it.

Pork-Chop on June 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Are you counting on the MSM getting that message out?

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

No,it doesn’t. You haven’t read it, have you? You just know what your messiah says about it.

kingsjester on June 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM

improve the lives of Americans.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

dream on

cmsinaz on June 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM

The House should pass a bill extending ObamaCare to the SCOTUS, the POTUS and staff, all past POTUS, and the Senate.

Let’s see how the Senate would vote on that bill !!

KenInIL on June 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Uppereastside on June 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I see you’re either parroting or actually believe the lie that the result in Wisconsin was due to the Dem’s being outspent. Either you didn’t see or ignored all the data that showed that dollar for dollar the spend was fairly even if you took what was spent by all the pro-recall groups and compared it to what was spent by all the pro-governor groups.

But, assuming your claim about Wisconsin were true (which it isn’t), I would hope you’d be able to see the difference between a ton of money being spent to attempt to influence voters and a ton of money being spent to buy the vote of a politician.

In the first case, individual voters are still free to make the decision the deem best.

In the second case, a person that was put there to serve the people is now serving the person that bought their vote.

These things are not the same.

JadeNYU on June 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM

He knew that when he posted. He just assumes that, because all his friends are uninformed morons, that everyone he talks to is an uninformed moron.

CurtZHP on June 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM

The problem is that the Supreme Court has let loose the dogs of taxation. As long as SCOTUS decides it COULD be a tax, even if the law says it is something else, then barring other problems it is legal.

Bear on June 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM

“Just keep swimming.”

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Healthcare industry stocks are up. The mandate will never be repealed.

libfreeordie on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Of course they are. They’re guaranteed trillions in tax money and millions of new customers.

They also have carte blanche to raise prices to make up for all the taxes and forced services from Obama.

Indiana is projecting rates will nearly double

INDIVIDUAL MARKET
The estimated ACA-driven premium rate change for the Indiana individual insured market beginning in 2014 is 75% to 95%.

How again is that “affordable care”?

Chuck Schick on June 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I do understand the sentiment, but what good does it do? I didn’t say anything on the other threads, but people are just freaking out and jumping to conclusions about this that aren’t necessarily true. There is a lot about this that isn’t as good for the socialists as it seems right now.

I am not a Romney supporter, but he did flat out say he would make this repeal his first priority. I think the money bomb he is getting should let him know what is important to the people he is trying to get to vote for him. I say his squishiness can be a good thing for us. No one can know for sure what he’ll do, but if we just give up what chance do we have? None.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Newsflash: Nearly everyone in America will violate this “law.”

logis on June 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM

And here is the list of the 220 Congresspeople who voted in favor of Obamacare:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml

The entire House of Representatives is up for re-election in November.

Anybody who voted in favor of Obamacare needs to be questioned about their vote at every single campaign stop and then be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE in November.

We need to fill the House of Representatives with people who will vote to REPEAL OBAMACARE in November.

wren on June 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM

canopfor on June 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Ha Ha… I know. I will say the only nice thing I have ever said about liberals. They are good at drama! What I have found funny listening to them today, they aren’t even as up to date on the facts as Hot Air commenters. They are still whining about Bushs’ AG not being called before the committee, even though Holder admitted they were lying when they said he knew about F&F.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Night Owl:

Yuppers,the Evil RightWing GOP are out to get Holder,
and the Dems are not going to accept any info,of any
kind,they are delusional!

And Reagan did it too,(emails)according to them,and they’ve got
there facts screwed up,trying to say,it goes back to 2007….
and so,its back to Bush,once again….ugh!:)

canopfor on June 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM

You can consider its contents crap if you want, Sparky, but the actual name of the health care law is the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. That’s not as oversimplified and catchy as “Obamacare,” of course. I still think that the right will come to regret that moniker as the law continues to go into effect and improve the lives of Americans.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

I can’t wait for the IPAB to “improve your life,” when you’re a little older, a little sicker and a little less beneficial to the State.

Oh, and, rest assured, when the IPAB has “improved your life,” supra, I know that you’ll be comforted by the fact that the IPAB decisions are subject to neither administrative, nor judicial, review.

The day is coming, when you will enjoy the IPAB’s power over you.

The POWER over YOU.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

The law itself is awful and horrible. But the fact that this law is in force is not the worst thing. The worst thing is what comes next. What comes 10 years from now; 20 years from now; etc. Now, the federal government’s powers are near boundless, with the minor exceptions explicitly stated in the bill of rights and amendments. The attempt to generally limit congressional power by granting them only enumerated powers is essentially a dead letter. We need a new Constitutional Amendment smacking John “The Bringer of Tyranny” Roberts down.

besser tot als rot on June 28, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Typical of Tyrone West. Someone needs to tell him kid n play is so 1980.

Uppereastside on June 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Hey racist , share those comment with your racist kkk loving friends and keep them off this blog. It’s offensive.

BoxHead1 on June 28, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Benjamin Franklin did indeed state, ‘In this world, nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.’ However, Dr. Franklin never envisioned the federal government would use its power of taxation to punish people for not purchasing health care. Today, individual sovereignty in America has been defeated.”

Individual sovereignty might as well be defeated, they defeated state sovereignty on Monday. We’ll need Boehner & Co even more now. He wants to replace one savior with another, namely him. I think I’ll start flying my flag upside down.

Kissmygrits on June 28, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM

The truth is a lot of them (republicans) have sold out to the same special interest. The con is, tell people what they want to hear to get the majority than make excuses why they can’t deliver on their promises. Some of us have gotten tired of the Old Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown at the last minute when he goes to kick it for the umpteenth time.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM

I can imagine that George Orwell is reading the SCOTUS decision somewhere………..and laughing his ass off.

GarandFan on June 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM

The CBC is lined up at the microphone in the House right now. Time for the dramatic walk out?

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM

I think this ruling gives us an electoral advantage, but we should be careful how we press it. People don’t like this law, but I don’t think they’re anxious for Congress to get into another long over healthcare. Obama knows this, which is why he’s stressing the need for us all to move on. Mitt would be making a serious mistake to make repeal and replace a major part of the campaign. Instead, he should remind people how divisive and dysfunctional the legislation was, and how it goes against what Obama represented and promised. He should then make it clear that he intends to gut the law by EO and by letting Congress defund it when he’s elected President, not that he intends to lead an effort to repeal and replace it. We can do that in time, once the actual force of the law has been removed and it’s been forgotten. Most voters really don’t follow politics, and sadly, don’t really care about the Constitution. They’re happy if there’s money in their pockets and Washington’s relatively quite. Let’s not make them think we’re going to change that.

EricW on June 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Roberts et al. left a lot of meat for conservative to chew on. Remember scotus doesn’t rule on things because of the corruption and closed door methods that are used to pass bills.

That is our job.

And with the tax thing, Romney can now have a clear message. Obama’s legacy is the the congress can now tax people when they buy stuff…and tax them when they don’t.

This is beyond the Beatles “taxman”…a whole new verse

Obama is all about taxes….taxes are the alpha and omega of the leftist party.

Own it, barry

r keller on June 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

The truth is a lot of them (republicans) have sold out to the same special interest. The con is, tell people what they want to hear to get the majority than make excuses why they can’t deliver on their promises. Some of us have gotten tired of the Old Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown at the last minute when he goes to kick it for the umpteenth time.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM

I agree with everything you say, but what is the alternative other than to keep fighting?

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Issa is up now.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Sorry, but it is going to take me just a little while longer to recover and decide what I need to do next…I am not convinced the GOP will do anything to substantially change ObamaCare. See you around.

d1carter on June 28, 2012 at 2:30 PM

About an hour of debate before the vote.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Meh, more theater from Boehner.

He is an opportunist, Beltway insider. Not a leader or forceful advocate for our rights.

The guy should be working every day on these matters and have his face on every show.

Yet he sits back and doesn’t say too much that might offend his “friends”.

Marcus Traianus on June 28, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Congress implemented this law and Congress can erase it too. So what’s the beef?

mixplix on June 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Article 1, Section 7 states that all revenue (tax) bills must originate from the House. Obamacare (as passed) originated from a Senate bill, hence is now unconstitutional due to Robert’s ruling.

Is there a new (and incredibly easy) challenge to Obamacare on these grounds?

RationalIcthus on June 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM

This law is bad news for all of us in the medical device industry. Companies now have to pay an enormous tax on each device which will result in layoffs and a decline in innovation. Nancy Pelosi said at the “summit” held with the Prez…you remember the one where he told John Mc that, “the election is over”…that this bill would create over 100,000 new jobs, “almost immediately”. Well, it is…only it’s for the IRS to hire all the people necessary to enforce the SOB.
Mark my words…myself or one of my co-workers will be cut in the next year when these taxes are to start taking effect and boy will I be grateful to the three stooges and all those people who let this happen.
Myself and my children thank you.

sandlin71 on June 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Why should we trust toothless leaders like Boehner and McConnell, who are forever looking for “grand bargains” and trying to “work with the other side,” before quittin’ time at 5:00 and Happy Hour at the Capital Grille?

Right Mover on June 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Boehner: We will not spike the ball if we win!
Pelosi: I’m throwing an Obamacare party on the hill!

silvernana on June 28, 2012 at 2:36 PM

I agree with everything you say, but what is the alternative other than to keep fighting?

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Life is struggle, and I won’t ever stop pushing back.

The folks that have jockeyed themselves into position of power through broken promises to “We the People” should not be rewarded with more power. Divided government works. Where neither party get’s to wield unlimited power.

I see that the internet media and blogs are already trying to put lipstick on Robert’s judicial activism. There isn’t enough rouge in the world to make that pig of a decision attractive.

Remember all the people who are behind Obamacare are exempt from Obamacare.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Congress implemented this law and Congress can erase it too. So what’s the beef?

mixplix on June 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM

When was the last time the government repealed a law or tax they passed?

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Didn’t even read the story; just the headline.

And boy do I ever feel much better, knowing that Speaker John Boehner is on the job.

It’s SUPER SPEAKER . . . to the rescue . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . we’re SAVED !

Thank you SUPER SPEAKER, thank you . . . . . .

listens2glenn on June 28, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Mr, Boehner, as an additional tool to ameliorate this fiasco, a reduction of IRS funding should be considered, or am I asking too much.

diogenes on June 28, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Life is struggle, and I won’t ever stop pushing back.

The folks that have jockeyed themselves into position of power through broken promises to “We the People” should not be rewarded with more power. Divided government works. Where neither party get’s to wield unlimited power.

I see that the internet media and blogs are already trying to put lipstick on Robert’s judicial activism. There isn’t enough rouge in the world to make that pig of a decision attractive.

Remember all the people who are behind Obamacare are exempt from Obamacare.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Well, good. I really enjoy your posts. From what I’ve gathered, the fact that they are calling it a tax makes it impossible to grant all the waivers they’ve granted. We’ll see. Or did you mean congress?

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Pelosi’s hosting a celebration party on Capitol Hill today–man, am I shocked!

stukinIL4now on June 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Article 1, Section 7 states that all revenue (tax) bills must originate from the House. Obamacare (as passed) originated from a Senate bill, hence is now unconstitutional due to Robert’s ruling.

Is there a new (and incredibly easy) challenge to Obamacare on these grounds?

RationalIcthus on June 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM

IIRC, the Senate took an existing House bill, gutted it and substituted Obamacare, then passed the bill… which the House then passed again (both chambers having to approve the same bill). Technically (very, very technically) the bill modified by the Senate “originated” in the House.

Won’t argue that the legislative dishonesty of all this was breath-taking.

de rigueur on June 28, 2012 at 2:44 PM

There’s nothing for it but to keep fighting to ensure it dies a quick death.

Which is better than it deserves! D:<

But seriously, I'm glad Boehner's at least talking tough… and I think he'll actually follow through. He's not exactly the fiercest of conservative warriors, but I think he knows what the political consequences would be if he fails to do everything in his power to break the jewel in That One's crown.

Mr. Prodigy on June 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Remember all the people who are behind Obamacare are exempt from Obamacare.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:37 PM

THIS!!

Right Mover on June 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Healthcare industry stocks are up. The mandate will never be repealed.

libfreeordie on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Of course they are. They’re guaranteed trillions in tax money and millions of new customers.

They also have carte blanche to raise prices to make up for all the taxes and forced services from Obama.

Indiana is projecting rates will nearly double

INDIVIDUAL MARKET
The estimated ACA-driven premium rate change for the Indiana individual insured market beginning in 2014 is 75% to 95%.

Chuck Schick on June 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Well then, I’m going to quit my job as a researcher and apply for a position with the healthcare insurance industry. . . .

cmsciulli on June 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Well, good. I really enjoy your posts. From what I’ve gathered, the fact that they are calling it a tax makes it impossible to grant all the waivers they’ve granted. We’ll see. Or did you mean congress?

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM

All of them, they are in bed together after all, Congress and Special Interest who got waivers.

It’s going to be interesting to see how Catholics vote in November.

This means the contraception mandate is going into effect. What happens when Catholic Hospitals, Charities etc.. start closing their doors? John Roberts: It’s okay I “Fixed it” even though I have no constitutional power to do so “make law”. I changed it from a penalty into a tax you’re welcome America/

John Roberts is turning himself into a pariah. I don’t know what he’s getting out of it? I hope it’s worth it to him. To get tongue baths from the likes of Nancy Pelosi.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Congress implemented this law and Congress can erase it too. So what’s the beef?

mixplix on June 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM

When was the last time the government repealed a law or tax they passed?

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Isn’t there some intellectual debate that the Income Tax itself is unconstitutional? How is that one going for us? Oh, we are still paying it. . .

I did like a commentor’s idea to defund the IRS, though.

cmsciulli on June 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM

To say that I am devastated would be an understatement…so, today I am going to get sh&%faced and tomorrow, after my Bloody Mary Hangover Cure, I’m going to reassess and see what I can do to try and save my country. I will not go down without a fight. Our founders didn’t.

I will vote for Mitt, and the fiancé and I have already set up a monthly draft contribution to the campaign.

I don’t know what to do next, I need time to wallow. Then I will think.

Gettycorn on June 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM

If its a tax does that mean the House can drain it dry?

Speakup on June 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

As someone who “practices” medicine, I’d forecast the following to accelerate:

1) Because the ACA gutsMedicare and is built on accounting lies, expect Medicare to vanish sooner than expected;

2) Expect to see more experienced physicians retiring early, dropping out of Medicare entirely, and a worsening shortage of physicians;

3) The AMA’s betrayal of the medical profession, and reality that the “doc fix” is no more than a lie and a sham, will lead to further declining participation of physicians with the ACA & Medicare;

4) Due to the high cost of medical school tuition, no medical student, , unless independently wealthy, escapes building huge student loan debt… In the current discussion of fiscal sanity, how many people will continue to choose medicine as a career profession, more or less? & how many will continue to pursue primary care medicine specialties, the ones supposed to be supported by the “doc fix”? More or less? (also see #3);

5) Overall, expect medicine to slowly die a painful death over the next decade because the ACA puts the final nails into the coffin of the medical profession as a whole… PLEASE pay particular attention to pp 9-13 in particular. Does. Not. Look. Good.;

6) Do not be fooled, with the ACA, healthcare costs will rise… Take Masachusetts as an example… Was healthcare coverage for uninsured expanded? Yes. But was this accomplished by keeping healthcare costs down? Of course not. Please read the 4th paragraph on p1 entitled The state continues to struggle with rising healthcare costs. What a surprise. ‘Per capita health spending is 15% higher than the national average and although premium growth has slowed in recent years, Massachusetts has the highest individual market premiums in the country. Legislation focused on comprehensive provider payment reform and endorsed by the Governor is currently pending in the state’s legislature.’ Sounds like the idea will be to continue to cut physician reimbursement will be the easy answer….

I remember when this debate began in earnest in 2009, some people had the testes to say that doctors get paid too much; that doctors should consider (working for poor reimbursement) because profession of medicine is honorable one and taking care of those is need is a privilege. However, it usually after 4 years of medical school & an additional 3-8+ years of training while earning substandard pay (e.g. $48000 – $57000/yr, often working for 70-80+hrs/wks… do the math. Eventually, physicians have to consider financial solvency. This is even without consideration of malpractice insurance costs, not including that the ACA ignores addressing tort reform.

So, to recap, medicine as we know it will die. Those in need of medical care will not be able to get it because of rationing. There will be a greater shortage of qualified people entering the profession of medicine. Costs of health care will continue to rise.

Add this to the inability of politicians to find reasonable solutions for health care reform, lack of willingness to address entitlement spending, this country’s massive debt, and the effects of the looming European financial disaster upon our fragile economy… It is a fair prediction that unless something drastic happens within the next 2 years w/ repeal of the ACA & replacement of sound reasonable healthcare reform, & serious painful austerity reforms… that Obama, Reid, & Pelosi will have succeeded in destroying this republic from within. It may be simply too little too late.

Danny on June 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Gotta retake the Senate in November.

J.E. Dyer on June 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Pelosi’s hosting a celebration party on Capitol Hill today–man, am I shocked!

wahoo!!! party like its Paul Wellstone’s funeral!!!

DanMan on June 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Gotta retake the Senate in November.

J.E. Dyer on June 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Yes, I am not at all confident about Romney’s odds for the Presidency after this ruling. Bush has been taking out republican candidates following him last time it was McCain passing TARP. This time his appointee is under mining Romney. George W Bush has got a talent for poisoning the republican well.

If the Republicans can get the majority in the House and Senate at least, they can block further legislation and defund the implementation of ACA.

Divided government works.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I don’t know what to do next, I need time to wallow. Then I will think.

Gettycorn on June 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Helping the Romney campaign is a good start and very appreciated by your fellow Patriots.

Next you can pick your favorite Senate race and as many House races as you can follow and then roll up your sleeves to help them in whatever way you can.

Talk to ALL of your friends and family to make sure they are informed and ready to vote properly in November! You will have the biggest impact with voters who already know and trust you.

Then activate those friends and family who understand that our freedom is at stake so that they can help to inform and activate their friends and family.

Lots of work to do! No time to wallow!

Let’s Roll!

wren on June 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM

he law does not take over hospitals, it does not employ physicians and it does not offer government-sponsored insurance to all. It’s markedly different from health care systems in Canada or Great Britain and is nothing close to a government takeover.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Yes, it’s different.

Now EVERYONE in the nation will be taxed, and those taxes will be handed to a PRIVATE company. It means government has enacted a tax that is required to be paid in order to be a citizen of the United States.

We have reborn Jim Crow laws, where to exercise our rights as a citizen of the United States requires a payment from each citizen, under the threat of law.

itsspideyman on June 28, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Just wallowing today, wren, just today.

As it happens, my reps office is at my college…he’s an R, and against OCare, but I will be hand delivering a letter urging him to do everything in his power to overturn this ruination of our liberties.

It was hard going to class today, as my Prof and the clueless kids in my class were positively crowing about the decision. Idiots.

Gettycorn on June 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Healthcare industry stocks are up. The mandate will never be repealed.

libfreeordie on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Birds fly in the east, therefore worms like ice cream.

Says the same thing you did.

itsspideyman on June 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Healthcare industry stocks are up. The mandate will never be repealed.

libfreeordie on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Birds fly in the east, therefore worms like ice cream

Says the same thing.

itsspideyman on June 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM

That’s not as oversimplified and catchy as “Obamacare,” of course. I still think that the right will come to regret that moniker as the law continues to go into effect and improve the lives of Americans.

Drew Lowell on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

LOL. You libs are the ones who’re going to regret it. As health care costs rise, health care premiums rise, taxes (to pay for all the new subsidies, new bureaucracies, and expanded Medicaid coverage) rise, medical device innovation is stifled (by all the new taxes on it), and the deficit blows out, Americans are going to know exactly who is responsible. Then there are all the physicians who will leave the practice of medicine because they don’t want the government dictating how they practice,and/or because it’s not financially viable with the low level of government reimbursements. Then there is the matter of the IRS having access to everyone’s medical and financial information — surely no one will object to that, right? And of course, senior citizens will just love the fact that Obamacare takes half a trillion dollars from their Medicare.

There was a reason why the Dims made sure this thing would not be fully operational for several years. They knew it was going to be a complete clusterf*ck, and would almost certainly piss off the majority of the public. The only people who genuinely thought it would be great were the rubes like you.

So gloat while you can. Your “victory” will be short-lived.

AZCoyote on June 28, 2012 at 3:34 PM

If the Republicans can get the majority in the House and Senate at least, they can block further legislation and defund the implementation of ACA.

Divided government works.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 3:18 PM

We also need to get Obama out of the White House in November because he will have to take his Health and Human Services Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, with him.

Kathleen Sebelius is the Cabinet Secretary whose agency is writing the regulations for Obamacare.

It is Kathleen Sebelius who has to let Nancy Pelosi know what is in the Obamacare Bill that Pelosi passed.

Both Obama and Sebelius need to be voted out of their jobs in November!

wren on June 28, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Both Obama and Sebelius need to be voted out of their jobs in November!

wren on June 28, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Roberts (Bush apponitee) upholding the Mandate = Penalty, helped Obama with his democrat base. They aren’t going into November demoralized quite the opposite. If Obama needed to gin up his base, this win helped him in that endeavor.

Did George W Bush, intended to be the last republican president? He’s been setting up his predecessors to lose since before he left office.

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Just wallowing today, wren, just today.

As it happens, my reps office is at my college…he’s an R, and against OCare, but I will be hand delivering a letter urging him to do everything in his power to overturn this ruination of our liberties.

It was hard going to class today, as my Prof and the clueless kids in my class were positively crowing about the decision. Idiots.

Gettycorn on June 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM

OK, Gettycorn. I hope you are feeling better tomorrow!

If you are on a college campus, you can have a tremendous impact on the November election!!!

Any chance that you could work with the College Republicans on your campus to invite your Congressional Representative to speak to your fellow students to explain the damage that Obamacare is going to do to your generation?

Staying active and working hard to influence the outcome of the November election is the best way to reduce stress during this election season!!!

wren on June 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM

What I’m thinking is this: a lot of doctors are going to go Galt. You can cover all the people all the time, but trying to get the treatment you need might be a real bugger.

On top of that, government will now be on our cases to change our behaviors for eating, sex, smoking, drinking and any other behavior linked to higher costs. With Obamacare, they’ve just made everybody’s private business the business of the people who have to pay for it.

Good luck with that.

zonataman on June 28, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Which is why the penalty will be increased for the sake of making this nightmare workable. We are one Democrat controlled Congress from this $750 penalty becoming $7,500.

Gingotts on June 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

It’s already in the bill to raise the penalty after the first two years.

CurtZHP on June 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Long term what assurance do we have that the monies collected will be applied only to what originally intended for? NONE. Long term the money will end up in general revenue like the Social Security taxes. The amount of the tax will be at the whim of the party running the executive branch.

slickwillie2001 on June 28, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Dr Evil on June 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM

We have so many reasons to be disappointed today.

But now we know we have to work twice as hard to elect better leaders in November.

Obama had a good day today. But with the Tea Party, Patriotic Conservatives, the incredible researchers at Breitbart.com, and instant communication at blogs like Hot Air all working hard to defeat Obama and his Democrat co-conspirators in November, he is not going to have many more good days during this election season.

It is now clear that it is the Voters who have to save our country.

Onward toward VICTORY!

wren on June 28, 2012 at 4:01 PM

What I’m thinking is this: a lot of doctors are going to go Galt.

zonataman on June 28, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Yup. That is a rational response. And Doctors are rational people.

I hope that Doctors, who are upset by today’s court ruling, will mention this possibility to their patients between now and Election Day to make sure their patients understand the consequences of their votes.

It would also be a good time for Human Resources departments at companies that may not be able to afford to provide health insurance to their employees beginning in 2014 to remind their employees to vote very carefully in November.

And when people submit applications for jobs, potential employers have an opportunity to connect the dots between the cost of Obamacare and the ability of their company to be able to afford to hire them (or anybody else).

We get the government that we deserve. So it is up to us to elect better leaders in November.

wren on June 28, 2012 at 4:14 PM

House Republicans scheduled a vote to repeal the law for July 11. They have made similar attempts in the past, but their legislation has failed in the Senate, where a supermajority of 60 votes are needed to advance legislation.

So just pass a budgetary bill to repeal the mandate. It’s a tax, and budgetary bills cannot be filibustered.

alwaysfiredup on June 28, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Nice words from McConnel and Boehner. Unfortunately, their records haven’t matched their words in the past and they have proven they can’t be trusted now.

The black robed shyster’s ruling has handed Obama a hammer to beat Mittens. McConnel, Boehner and Mittens are all progressives themselves and can not be trusted to repeal anything like Obamacare. Alas, the only chance they have of saving their country is to vote Mittens and for a party that has demonstrated over and over that they are incompetent liars.

The country is well and truly screwed, but that doesn’t mean we should head to the breach again. I doubt we will be successful, however.

Quartermaster on June 28, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Since the mandate is a tax it can be repealed now. The House is no problem. The Senate only needs a majority for taxes to be repealed and is not subject to the filibuster. The chances of the Republicans pulling away enough Democrats to repeal it is quite possible.

The two road blocks are Harry Reid and Obama. But there is a lot of virtue in making them support the thing again.

But the thing is we do not need to acknowledge the Supreme Court’s take on this. We can declare that we consider its ruling here just as invalid as the one expanding the Commerce Clause or the previous ruling on the 2nd amendment that went against the plain text of the Constitution. It can be made clear that if we comply it is only under threat of force and we do not consider the government using that force to be legitimate.

Frankly, all the polls show that the government does not have the consent of the governed so that much is already clear. We just need to connect those sentiments to the reasons for those sentiments.

In short there is no need to pretend this thing has any legitimacy other than what comes out of the barrel of the gun they have aimed at us. I am too old and too cantankerous to play make believe anymore just because some justice gets all namby pamby worrying about what the “elites” think.

Voluble on June 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Voluble on June 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Frankly, all the polls show that the government does not have the consent of the governed so that much is already clear. We just need to connect those sentiments to the reasons for those sentiments.

Christ on a bike. This is the voice of The People? Are you kidding? How stupid can someone actually get?

JackieB on June 29, 2012 at 3:06 AM

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