Beck on the ObamaCare ruling: I sure am tired of prominent Republicans selling out conservatives

posted at 9:21 pm on June 28, 2012 by Allahpundit

A sentiment widely shared today, no doubt. Over at Ace’s place, DrewM issues a warning:

Dear GOP,

This is your last chance. If you blow this, I’m out and you need to be destroyed.

What is it? Repeal ObamaCare on Day 1. Don’t worry about replace, don’t worry about anything else…

[A]s soon as Mitt takes the oath of office, before his speech no one will care or remember, walk the bill up to him at the podium to sign.

If this does not happen, the GOP must be destroyed and a new party built to replace it. We’ve tried the carrot approach (votes, money, volunteers) to change your behavior. Now it’s time to show you the stick.

David Frum counters: If you think the GOP’s going to repeal ObamaCare now, you’re kidding yourselves.

[E]ven if Republicans do win the White House and Senate in 2012, how much appetite will they then have for that 1-page repeal bill? Suddenly it will be their town halls filled with outraged senior citizens whose benefits are threatened; their incumbencies that will be threatened. Already we are hearing that some Republicans wish to retain the more popular elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Which means the proposed 1-page bill will begin to grow…

Republicans will find the task of writing their “replace” law even more agonizing than the Democrats found original passage. The party has no internal consensus on what a replacement would look like. Worse, any replacement of the law’s popular elements will require financing. But where is that money to come from? New taxes are unacceptable. The proceeds of “closing loopholes” are already spoken for—that’s how President Romney has promised to finance his promise to cut the top rate of tax 28%. And he’s also promised to increase defense spending…

[T]he clock is ticking. President Obama passed the ACA in the second year of his administration. A President Romney will have to pass repeal in the first year of his, because the law goes into effect in 2014. By then, states will have to have their exchanges up and working.

That’s all fine, but Drew’s captured the mood of the base well in his post, I think. If the GOP ends up with the numbers to repeal O-Care, it’d be a catastrophic, possibly politically fatal betrayal at this point for them not to follow through. The fact that it was Roberts who swung to the left in today’s decision rather than the mercurial Kennedy only compounds conservatives’ trauma: At this point, a la Beck, it really does feel like there’s no one in a position of power who can be trusted. The last Republican president ran up big deficits and expanded health-care entitlements; the Republican chief justice he appointed just voted to uphold ObamaCare; and the current Republican nominee pioneered the concept of health-care mandates in Massachusetts. If a Republican-controlled Congress rubber-stamps Obama’s health-care leviathan by refusing to act on it, I don’t know what happens to turnout in 2014 and 2016. Good news for the No Labels crowd, I guess — that’ll be the closest America’s come yet to seeing a true third party develop. Democrats on the left, conservatives on the right, and the no-labels rump of the GOP smack dab in the center. They might as well take their chances with angry seniors at those townhalls; you might win them back eventually, but you won’t win back righties who’ve suffered one too many sellouts.


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I am frankly stilled stunned one day later.

I’ve heard probably every argument for and against this decision. But my conclusion is still the same.

Roberts is probably the most loathsome SCOTUS Justice ever.

Please don’t patronize me by stating it’s all complicated legal stuff. It is clear even to the simplest American that Roberts allowed this egregious assault on our liberty to go forth using a tax fig leaf instead of under the guise of Commerce. But it still has the same destructive affect.

What was so complicated that Roberts couldn’t send the same message by simply declaring this unconstitutional? Do you think Congress would ever attempt this type of expansion again given the history and the fact it is probably one of the most unpopular measures in our history?

I am a little tired of being told we should negotiate and meet everyone half way. That’s called compromising your principles and setting yourself up for failure. The Roberts appointment and his PPACA decision along with Arizona proves it.

Liberals forge on with their agenda and then try to shame us into appointments, positions and votes that benefit their agenda and move us further away from the Constitution and original intent. That is why this country is in the terrible position it is today.

We can only be thought of as accomplices in this destruction because of the weak, tepid and yes, unprincipled way in which we have operated.

If the GOP and established party denizens want to continue this type of approach under the guise of some type of “big-tent”, demographic mumbo-jumbo, be-reasonable, we’re-not-them smokescreen and then not repeal this monstrosity I have only one thing to say: it’s going to get pretty lonely in the GOP headquarters because me and many other people are just about done.

Oh and note to Romney: grow some stones. Because you are beginning to build an image that you are just another mealy-mouthed politician building a house of cards for Democrats to blow down. Don’t let the fundraising in the last 24 hours fool you.

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

The differences between Republicans and Democrats are in degree–not in kind. Liberals have a party. Conservatives do not. Think on that.

stvnscott on June 29, 2012 at 8:48 AM

You know what cheeses me off about Roberts besides seeing the word tax hidden behind a penumbra somewhere? He said it is the voters fault for the bill so he’s not gonna save them from themselves. Well, Mr. Roberts, we have no control during the time in between the elections, so YOU need to be that friggin control. Its not like they let us vote on the individual bills you putz. What a POS.

Also, I’m sorry for doubting Justice Kennedy all this time. It was a completely other snake.

Schwalbe Me-262 on June 29, 2012 at 8:54 AM

I have always been creeped out by government workers peddling the “not my department” excuse. Roberts is no exception.

viking01 on June 29, 2012 at 8:59 AM

So very very sick of the supposedly right-of-center politicians, journalists, judges, etc. who get to Washington and then nearly always start contributing to the runaway spending, the tax burden, the ever-greater restrictions on our liberties, etc., etc., etc.

How can we keep supporting the GOP when we’re on one side of the net and the GOP keeps wandering over to the other side where the Democrats are? Why continue to follow politics if the only change that will happen is that each month brings us a little closer to either bureaucratic dictatorship or systemic collapse?

I’m starting to agree that we need a third party because the GOP is useless.

Aitch748 on June 29, 2012 at 8:59 AM

I am frankly stilled stunned one day later.

I’ve heard probably every argument for and against this decision. But my conclusion is still the same.

Roberts is probably the most loathsome SCOTUS Justice ever.

Please don’t patronize me by stating it’s all complicated legal stuff. It is clear even to the simplest American that Roberts allowed this egregious assault on our liberty to go forth using a tax fig leaf instead of under the guise of Commerce. But it still has the same destructive affect.

What was so complicated that Roberts couldn’t send the same message by simply declaring this unconstitutional? Do you think Congress would ever attempt this type of expansion again given the history and the fact it is probably one of the most unpopular measures in our history?

I am a little tired of being told we should negotiate and meet everyone half way. That’s called compromising your principles and setting yourself up for failure. The Roberts appointment and his PPACA decision along with Arizona proves it.

Liberals forge on with their agenda and then try to shame us into appointments, positions and votes that benefit their agenda and move us further away from the Constitution and original intent. That is why this country is in the terrible position it is today.

We can only be thought of as accomplices in this destruction because of the weak, tepid and yes, unprincipled way in which we have operated.

If the GOP and established party denizens want to continue this type of approach under the guise of some type of “big-tent”, demographic mumbo-jumbo, be-reasonable, we’re-not-them smokescreen and then not repeal this monstrosity I have only one thing to say: it’s going to get pretty lonely in the GOP headquarters because me and many other people are just about done.

Oh and note to Romney: grow some stones. Because you are beginning to build an image that you are just another mealy-mouthed politician building a house of cards for Democrats to blow down. Don’t let the fundraising in the last 24 hours fool you.

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

This needs to be printed and nailed to Republican Headquarters all over the country. After reading and considering all, I completely agree. The whole thing is a load of crap, delivered in a crap-wagon.

A program that is passed as “not-a-tax” and ruled a tax. There is no language in either the bill or the constitution that allows for this. If you were King George and English Parliament and were trying to foment a revolution in the colonies, this is what you would do.

Now, whether or not I vote for someone who says they will do what I ask, it doesn’t matter. Because you can cloak anything you want in any language and just dream up what it really means later.

We keep hearing how we can’t with without this faction, or that faction. Try to win without the conservative majority of the Republican party.

If it takes financial destruction of the current system to bring enough voters to their senses, so be it. Anything less than a full-throttle stop and turn 180 degrees on Immigration and ObamaCare, and that economic destruction is assured. We long ago passed the Federal/State/Local Debt-to-GDP of 100%. In total debt and unfunded liabilities we are approaching 300% of GDP. Our only short few months of saving grace is that Euro holders need a temporary place to put their money. But I’m afraid investors know that the US is a bigger house of cards than even Greece.

There is no more money. The teat has been sucked dry. And any more future milk from the teat is already promised out for several generations.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 9:08 AM

The differences between Republicans and Democrats are in degree–not in kind. Liberals have a party. Conservatives do not. Think on that. stvnscott on June 29, 2012 at 8:48 AM quote> AGREED.. There are Progs, Liberals, Democrats, Republican’s & Conservatives. The Republicans are now Democrats, so they have Progs, Libs & Dems. We only have Conservatives, with really no representation……
Sickening

reshas1 on June 29, 2012 at 9:13 AM

I’m starting to agree that we need a third party because the GOP is useless.

Aitch748 on June 29, 2012 at 8:59 AM

What’s to prevent a third party from becoming exactly like the other two? I’m afraid that’s the problem you’ll have with a third or more parties. Real political change begins with the right ideas. Unfortunately, the right is too broad and disjointed on the ideas it professes.

rickv404 on June 29, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Sorry guys computer jumped or I got button happy don’t know but posted as

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

should have been crediting the quote to Marcus Traianus and the rest my personal opinion.

C-Low

C-Low on June 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM

Unfortunately, the right is too broad and disjointed on the ideas it professes.

rickv404 on June 29, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Exactly. Conservatism isn’t complicated.

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM

86 all of this

Sorry guys computer jumped or I got button happy don’t know but posted as

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

should have been crediting the quote to Marcus Traianus and the rest my personal opinion.

C-Low

C-Low on June 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM

I was posting the quote with it credited with some of my own comments the computer jumped screens when I hit the enter key by accident and didn’t read just assumed somehow my quote got screwed up into the bottom login.

C-Low on June 29, 2012 at 9:19 AM

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

Marcus Tullius Cicero

C-Low on June 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM

You have to remember that Newt Gingrich started the decline of healthcare in the nineties by allowing insurance companies to monopolize areas and fix prices. Republicans (RHINO’s) have told me that they will keep the politically popular socialist mandates and get rid of the positive balances in the bill like increases in Medicaid and Medicare allowances for hospitals. Obama dug the hole and Mitt and the gang will call us over and say “look at this hole Obama dug!” then they will push us in!

Redglen on June 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Traitor Roberts.

GardenGnome on June 29, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

This.

Neo-con Artist on June 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM

I get the angst, but I have to ask: has nothing ever gone wrong in your lives before? Grow up! Pull up your socks, tighten your belt and lets move on. With grim determination!

It’s time to realize something: Democrats have an advantage over us. We look to the Constitution, and they just don’t give a damn. We try to enliven the values of the country because we think it’ll lead to a better place for our children and grandchildren, a more secure Fortress America and a better example for aspiring democracies around the world. Democrats care only about aggrandizing power, raiding public monies and creating government jobs for their relatives and friends.

Pelosi/Reid/Obama et al have a rallying cry: To hell with the poor! Screw the middle class! Blow up America!

We have to think bigger. It’s not enough to win the next election, like Drew said over at Ace’s place, we have to win and change the way the political establishment thinks. We have to stop fighting at the margins of what Democrats do, and change the basic narrative. It’s time to reassert Federalism on a big scale, and wipe out large portions of the cancerous central government. Romney isn’t the right guy to lead us, but so the hell what?! We can lead him, by electing more Mike Lee’s and more Jim Demints. (By the way, go Seth Mandel!!)

Go big. No, BIGGER!

MTF on June 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Don’t care what name you posted the comments under C Low, it is right on. We just had the curtain pulled back and now we can see who and what we are up against. The fight isn’t going to be pretty.

Kissmygrits on June 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Hope is not a plan and neither is “grow up.” Neither is venting the same as giving up.

We do have to make a “white list” of individuals worthy of our support and a “black list” of individuals who have pulled the football away one too many [bleep]ing times.

Aitch748 on June 29, 2012 at 10:15 AM

So the RINO blog AoS and the RINO pundit Glenn Beck are complaining that the GOP are RINOs.

CrustyB on June 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM

I suspected I was not a Republican way back when I decided to not cast a Presidential ballot for Bush senior in his run against Clinton. I did not vote for Clinton, I simply could not justify voting for someone who broke a promise of no new taxes. This was strengthened when I watched Bush Jr. decide that increasing the size and power of the Dept of Education should be one of his first steps and his agreement to create the TSA. McCain’s nomination was the final step – I realized if McCain was the type of person the Republicans wanted to lead the party, I was not one of them.

So I now report myself as an Independent. I will never vote Democratic, but I hardly feel much allegiance with the Republicans.

Over50 on June 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Obama has said since the moment Obamacare was signed that its MANDATE IS NOT A TAX. The government’s lawyer argued before the Supreme Court that this was written to fall under the Commerce Clause and is NOT A TAX. As Justice Kennedy points out, the Supreme Court UNANIMOUSLY voted the MANDATE under the Commerce Clause – as written and defended – to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Kennedy declares THIS IS WHERE THE SUPREME COURT’S POWERS REGARDING THIS CASE ENDS! THE SUPREME COURT DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT’S CASE AND THE LAW ITSELF WHAT IT IS NOT! Roberts REPLACED the fgovernment’s argument with HIS OWN, the argument that the Mandate IS a TAX.

Roberts declaring the Mandate is illegal but that if it were something else, which it isn’t, then it would be OK…is sorta like… a judge declaring, “The perpetrator of this assault on another person is criminal; however, if we change the situation/argument to say the two men were engaged in ‘horseplay’ and an accident ensued then it would be ok. In THAT light, I find the attacker NOT GUILTY because if we just look at the case as something that it is NOT then no crime has been committed. Case dismissed!”

easyt65 on June 29, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Roberts single handedly and out of the thin air between his ears “deemed” the ACA a tax so he then could “deem” the Act Constitutional. This act by Chief Justice Roberts kills the American Constitutional Republic and replaces it with a Dictatorship. We are all just sharecroppers on the Federal plantation now.

aposematic on June 29, 2012 at 10:23 AM

You can’t blame Bush for the Judicial re-writting of laws, Justices overstepping their power, and seizing of more power. ROBERTS is a ‘big boy’ and made his own decisions here.

easyt65 on June 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

SCOTUS should have struck down the bill *as written and passed*.

If it was passed as a bill based on the Commerce Clause, and the Court did not agree with this bill being supported on that foundation, they should have ruled against it with the olive branch that the US Congress *could* vote on the exact same bill again based on a “it is a tax” foundation.

Roberts did some good with limiting further use of several broadly defined constitutional terms…fantastic…but strengthened the juggernaut O-tax in the process?

Should-a’s and Could-a’s throughout this ruling.

Sinatra_98 on June 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Should-a’s and Could-a’s throughout this ruling.

Sinatra_98 on June 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM

So. Essentially what you are saying is that Roberts stuck his emanation up the country’s penumbra?

oldroy on June 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Wow. I just read this posting and so yours was the first comment I read. Well written, and captures what I feel exactly. I was trying to feel good about all the “positives” being put forth (no Commerce Clause, etc.), but really, I just feel betrayed and angry. The worst is the gloating by the left. I’m not a vengeful person, but sometimes I just wish I could rub their noses in something, big time! Anyway, thanks for expressing what I feel so eloquently.

SailorMark on June 29, 2012 at 11:36 AM

that’ll be the closest America’s come yet to seeing a true third party develop.

History much, AP? Third parties have developed in the past – it’s where both the Democrats and Republicans came from in the first place.

replaces it with a Dictatorship.

aposematic on June 29, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Technically, it’s an oligarchy. But, you’re right.

GWB on June 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM

EVERYTHING about Obamacare was a lie:

1) Obama: ‘All healthcare Mtgs will be on CSPAN’
– 1 was, the rest were conducted behind closed doors, where deals like the ‘Cornhusker Kickback’ were made to get it to pass.
2) Obama: “Americans will have 72 hours to review all bills before passage.”
– As Pelosi said, “Americans will have to wait for it to pass to find out what is in it.
3) Obama: “It will not only pay for itself, it will reduce the deficit.”
– Name 1 government program that pays for itself….EXACTLY!
4) Obama: “It will cost $895 Billion.”
– CBO: The cost is now $1.7 Trillion.
5) Obama: “Much of the cost to fund ObamaCare comes from money already appropriated. It doesn’t add any new spending.”
– CBO: “The two pieces of legislation [that make up the health care law] were estimated to increase mandatory outlays by $401 billion and raise revenues by $525 billion.”
6) Obama: “ObamaCare will preserve Medicare benefits and will increase options.”
– CBO: There will be $130 billion in cuts to companies that offer Medicare Advantage — and 25 percent of Medicare recipients use Medicare Advantage.
7) Obama: “ObamaCare is good for the healthcare industry, will create jobs and provide coverage for more Americans than every before.”
– The previously projected shortfall of physicians of 39,600 by 2015, now will rise to a shortfall of 63,000 and grow worse by 2025.
8) Obama: “ObamaCare will not lead to the taxation of an employer’s health care benefits.”
– The law includes, starting in 2018, a 40 percent tax on so-called Cadillac policies, costing more than $10,200 for individuals and $27,500 for families.
9) Obama: “Obamacare will provide coverage to all people who do not have it.”
– CBO: 10 years from now at least 21 million Americans will remain uninsured. Not only that, but almost one-half of the newly covered won’t get access to true health insurance; instead, they will be added to the Medicaid program, adding to its already overburdened problems of access and quality.
10) Obama: ObamaCare does not allow for taxpayer funding of abortion, violating decades of bipartisan affirmation of the Hyde Amendment.”
– The law violates the 1st Amendment by mandating religious institutions provide not only contraceptives but also abortion-inducing drugs to women, resulting in the massive backlash from the catholic community (among many)
11) Obama: “Obamacare will lower the cost of health insurance premiums.”
– Immediately after it was passed Obama declared the federal government NEVER had the power to do this.
12) Obama: “Under this law, if you like the coverage you have you can keep it.”
– An internal memo leaked from the Department of Health and Human Services says that more than two-thirds of businesses could be forced to change their current coverage; possibly 80 percent for small businesses. Other reports document that seniors with Medicare Advantage and people with health savings accounts also are likely to be forced out of their plans. Even Americans whose plans are “grandfathered” under the law may still be forced to change coverage to a plan that meets government requirements if they make any material changes to their coverage.
13) Obama: “The GOP is lying – this bill will not cause employees to lose their coverage or their jobs.”
– Not only did businesses begin dropping coverage but companies like McDonalds declared they would have to lay off employees. The massive number of companies that followed suit resulted in the tidal waive of waivers from the White House before the ink from his signature on the bill was even dry.
14) Obama: Obamacare is not government control of health care.”
– The health care bill has thousands of powers granted to the secretary of Health and Human Services, currently Kathleen Sebelius. The powers literally give her autocratic power to impose government directives, regulations and sanctions on private businesses.
15) Obama: “Obamacare will not result in health care rationing.”
– “The Food and Drug Administration now is considering cost as a factor in its approval process. The late-stage cancer drug Avastin is a test case. If cost becomes a point for consideration in drug approval, only those who can afford to pay for Avastin, or any drug, will have access to it, because Medicare and private insurance companies will be able, in the case of Avastin, to deny breast cancer patients coverage for this life-extending drug.”
16) Obama: “I will NOT raise taxes on the Middle Class by 1 dime”…”This is NOT a TAX”.
– The Supreme Court declares this to be a tax. In fact, this bill creates 21 new taxes costing over $650 Billion – 12 new taxes that raise new taxes on both the Middle and Lower class.

easyt65 on June 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Roberts is an inside-the-beltway hack and Mittens is a perennial hack.
They both make me ill.
See, ya GOP, I’ll vote Libertarian.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on June 29, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Unfortunately, a vote for a Libertarian, or anything but GOP, only helps Herr Obama. :(

easyt65 on June 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Unfortunately, a vote for a Libertarian, or anything but GOP, only helps Herr Obama. :(

easyt65 on June 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM

1. Godwins Law, you lose.

2. You have a 1-bit mind in a 32-bit world.

MelonCollie on June 29, 2012 at 12:20 PM

I suspected I was not a Republican way back when I decided to not cast a Presidential ballot for Bush senior in his run against Clinton. I did not vote for Clinton, I simply could not justify voting for someone who broke a promise of no new taxes. This was strengthened when I watched Bush Jr. decide that increasing the size and power of the Dept of Education should be one of his first steps and his agreement to create the TSA. McCain’s nomination was the final step – I realized if McCain was the type of person the Republicans wanted to lead the party, I was not one of them.

So I now report myself as an Independent. I will never vote Democratic, but I hardly feel much allegiance with the Republicans.

Over50 on June 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM

welcome to the Libertarian party, the only choice remaining for conservatives

burserker on June 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Unfortunately, a vote for a Libertarian, or anything but GOP, only helps Herr Obama. :(

easyt65 on June 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM

So instead we should what? Go running back into the arms of a party that apparently, still doesn’t get it after losing a Midterm and a Presidential election, rocked by a massive pro-small government uprising at the last election, and now expects us to vote for a Liberal Republican? Oh yea, that’s great, the Party elite will take us REALLY seriously now! They will seriously now understand that they can abuse us time and again, and we might complain a little, but hey, a few good whacks with the big stick and they can get us all back in line to chanting the praises of Big Government Republicanism.

I’m sick of hearing this “A non-vote for Romney is a Vote for Obama” crap.

Wrong. If I vote for neither, it is not magically a vote for Obama. I’m not going to walk into the polling place and press the button in support for him. A non-vote for Romney from me, means one thing, and one thing only. It’s a warning shot across the GOP’s bow that if they choose to continue to support Big Government Republicans like Romney and McCain, and so on and so forth, I will continue to NOT SUPPORT them. If they do not support my small-government beliefs, I have no reason to support them. It is not a Fair-weather belief, it is not a “Only in times of crisis” belief. It is a 24/7, 365/366 days a year belief, EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

Razgriez on June 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM

easyt65 on June 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Yea! ~ Let us all vote for write ins and Libertarians.

Who said democracy was about conning people and winning elections?

Did you miss CNN and the two vacuum heads talking about the 3 year old girl which the Affordable Act was going to save? She quits breathing about 30 times a day and was going to make her family lose coverage then go bankrupt with all the hospital stays.

And all the Obamacare issues? I’ll go along with you as soon as CNN viewers learn what the heck you are talking about.

IlikedAUH2O on June 29, 2012 at 4:03 PM

So goes the Nation, so goes the Republican party.

Bmore on June 29, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Marcus Traianus on June 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Thank you for saying the obvious.

Every time a few of us here mentioned that compromise, let’s call it the new c-word, is what got us here we were attacked by all the RINOs on the board.

We cannot compromise any more, can’t afford to, frankly. Too bad its taken so long for many to understand the obvious.

I hate liberals more than most here and actually even more, but I have to grant them one thing that GOP has never had nor will by the looks of it: the will to prevail and doing whatever it takes to reach a goal.

We either start playing by same rules or become Europe in short order. Its the only choice left to us when even Chief Justice doesn’t understand the meaning of word “mandate”.

Well, there is another, but I hope it doesn’t get to that point. Although, as the saying goes, History repeats itself.

riddick on June 29, 2012 at 7:50 PM

What you are saying is that we shouldn’t vote at all because everyone running sucks.

Dollayo on June 29, 2012 at 5:43 AM

Putting words in my mouth in order to provide cover for the architect of 0bama stinks of liberal desperation.

While voting for the most conservative local politicians in the upcoming election I’ll also vote for Governor Gary Johnson, the HONEST Conservative as you vote for 4 more years of liberal leadership.

Cheer up! You support the individual mandate by supporting Romney. You should feel very happy today.

DannoJyd on June 29, 2012 at 11:36 PM

I am frankly stilled stunned one day later.

Excellent post.

And the Left will keep going, this isn’t going to change the financials, we’re going down, we’re just managing to keep it at 30mph instead of 500mph. This just adds impetus…just what we need another $2trillion program to add to our already $1+ trillion deficits.

John_G on June 30, 2012 at 12:53 AM

And the Left will keep going, this isn’t going to change the financials, we’re going down, we’re just managing to keep it at 30mph instead of 500mph.

John_G on June 30, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Don’t fret. Romney will get it back up to speed.

Mark my words!

DannoJyd on July 1, 2012 at 10:39 PM

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