Beck on the ObamaCare ruling: I sure am tired of prominent Republicans selling out conservatives

posted at 9:21 pm on June 28, 2012 by Allahpundit

A sentiment widely shared today, no doubt. Over at Ace’s place, DrewM issues a warning:

Dear GOP,

This is your last chance. If you blow this, I’m out and you need to be destroyed.

What is it? Repeal ObamaCare on Day 1. Don’t worry about replace, don’t worry about anything else…

[A]s soon as Mitt takes the oath of office, before his speech no one will care or remember, walk the bill up to him at the podium to sign.

If this does not happen, the GOP must be destroyed and a new party built to replace it. We’ve tried the carrot approach (votes, money, volunteers) to change your behavior. Now it’s time to show you the stick.

David Frum counters: If you think the GOP’s going to repeal ObamaCare now, you’re kidding yourselves.

[E]ven if Republicans do win the White House and Senate in 2012, how much appetite will they then have for that 1-page repeal bill? Suddenly it will be their town halls filled with outraged senior citizens whose benefits are threatened; their incumbencies that will be threatened. Already we are hearing that some Republicans wish to retain the more popular elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Which means the proposed 1-page bill will begin to grow…

Republicans will find the task of writing their “replace” law even more agonizing than the Democrats found original passage. The party has no internal consensus on what a replacement would look like. Worse, any replacement of the law’s popular elements will require financing. But where is that money to come from? New taxes are unacceptable. The proceeds of “closing loopholes” are already spoken for—that’s how President Romney has promised to finance his promise to cut the top rate of tax 28%. And he’s also promised to increase defense spending…

[T]he clock is ticking. President Obama passed the ACA in the second year of his administration. A President Romney will have to pass repeal in the first year of his, because the law goes into effect in 2014. By then, states will have to have their exchanges up and working.

That’s all fine, but Drew’s captured the mood of the base well in his post, I think. If the GOP ends up with the numbers to repeal O-Care, it’d be a catastrophic, possibly politically fatal betrayal at this point for them not to follow through. The fact that it was Roberts who swung to the left in today’s decision rather than the mercurial Kennedy only compounds conservatives’ trauma: At this point, a la Beck, it really does feel like there’s no one in a position of power who can be trusted. The last Republican president ran up big deficits and expanded health-care entitlements; the Republican chief justice he appointed just voted to uphold ObamaCare; and the current Republican nominee pioneered the concept of health-care mandates in Massachusetts. If a Republican-controlled Congress rubber-stamps Obama’s health-care leviathan by refusing to act on it, I don’t know what happens to turnout in 2014 and 2016. Good news for the No Labels crowd, I guess — that’ll be the closest America’s come yet to seeing a true third party develop. Democrats on the left, conservatives on the right, and the no-labels rump of the GOP smack dab in the center. They might as well take their chances with angry seniors at those townhalls; you might win them back eventually, but you won’t win back righties who’ve suffered one too many sellouts.


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Same here. If you don’t care anymore, why the hell are you on a political website? Go back to your sports statistics and your reality television. You just wanted an excuse to stop caring about things that matter, because you’re too weak to handle getting your ass kicked by liberals until you leave a bootprint every time you sit down.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:38 PM

FTFY. I don’t like easy quitters either, but this was not “a loss”. This was the culminating disaster in a very long string of losses, and now our only chance at winning is so thin that no bookie with an IQ over 50 would bet on us.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Roberts was the darling of conservatives, they can scream traitor all they want now, but it was not just Bush that liked this guy. He had a lot of support from many of the same people who are calling him names today.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:27 PM

I have not been a big fan of Ann Coulter recently, but she expressed some valid concerns about John Roberts’ “conservatism” during the nomination process.

Bush fans crow about his SC appointments. It appears thay are half right (although if W. had his way Harriet Miers would have been his second appointee).

Republican Presidents don’t seem to understand the importance of SC sppointments. Stevens was damaging the country for three decades after Ford left office.

bw222 on June 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

I was listening to Beck this morning live as the travesty happened.

I’ve always liked Beck’s radio show including his interaction with Stu and Pat.

You can see how p!ssed Beck and all 3 of them are. I appreciate and share their passion. Beck said he’s never even heard Pat swear for all the years they’ve worked together before today.

That’s why Beck and company are some of the good guys.

LevinFan on June 28, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I can remember hearing Glenn Beck say we were better off with Obama than McCain…that was when I stopped listening to him.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Go give yourself an enema, twerp. You have lost every single battle that matters, time after time, decade after decade. The GOP has had chance after chance, President after President, and blown it every single time, and now has a nominee that there is EVERY reason to suspect will do so again.

Stoic Patriot on June 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Fine. If Romney fails, then it is time for the next step. At least give November a chance and tossing the Demorats out when a fired up electorate goes to the polls.

If they don’t deliver, then the country splits. Because that’s the next step. Either that or bowing to tyranny.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Staying home makes me a realist, and someone who’s not going to be taken for a ride anymore.

Stoic Patriot on June 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Then please change your Login name.

hillsoftx on June 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Right now I’d follow Palin to form a third party rather than stay with Romney and the backstabbing GOP.

dominigan on June 28, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Sarah Palin is a Republican and always has been…And the GOP is not the ones doing the back stabbing here.

I mean how is it that the whole party gets the blame for a decision they did not even support..for a bill that they did not even vote for?

I read stuff like this and I wonder if some of these comments are actually being made by Democrats pretending to be someone else.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Why can’t th GOP find 5 justices that love the constitution but liberals find judges who don’t move or sway. The GOP will betray you. I’m with beck I am totally done. Romney is going to get wiped in November.

Conservative4ev on June 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Then please change your Login name.

hillsoftx on June 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Is that even possible?

No sarcasm, I’m thinking about it myself, to something at least a little harder for the residents of Derpistan to make fun of.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Beck on the ObamaCare ruling: I sure am tired of prominent Republicans selling out conservatives

Would that then include Allahpundit?

Czar of Defenestration on June 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

No, because Allahpundit is neither prominent nor a Republican.

UltimateBob on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

You have lost every single battle that matters…

Stoic Patriot on June 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Wisconsin.

Now go sit at the kiddies’ table until you’re called for, son.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Your point is valid. Not just Wisconsin several States. Huge 2010 victory.

So let us repeat it in 2012.

We just have to repudiate Mitt Romney and we can continue the Tea Party and make a lot more progress towards the Constitutional Republic we once were.

But Mitt is an Anchor taking use down. Time to cut the rope.

We will eventually win this. If we just continue on and pray for victory over traitors like Romney and the enemies like Obama.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Prove it by voting for the grandfather of Obamacare? What’s happened to you, when did you start supporting Romney?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:42 PM

When I went to Plan Z. Choose:

1. Risk voting in Romney to take down ObamaCare.
2. Lose our last best shot for good.

The argument that he would choose conservative judges had no certainty. It wouldn’t be high-profile enough to get much pressure. On the other hand, if the GOP throws everything into reminding people about ObamaCare for the next few months, Romney won’t be able to afford not doing everything possible to gut it.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I have not been a big fan of Ann Coulter recently, but she expressed some valid concerns about John Roberts’ “conservatism” during the nomination process.

Bush fans crow about his SC appointments. It appears thay are half right (although if W. had his way Harriet Miers would have been his second appointee).

Republican Presidents don’t seem to understand the importance of SC sppointments. Stevens was damaging the country for three decades after Ford left office.

bw222 on June 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Well, Reagan nominated Sandra Day O’Connor…come on..you can not blame Presidents for every decision these people make. And besides, it was not just Bush who liked this guy. Coulter might have had her doubts, but Roberts was highly thought of among conservatives. They were happy when Bush nominated him. They can try to just hang this all on the GOP now, but the truth is a lot of people on the right supported Roberts.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Right now I’d follow Palin to form a third party rather than stay with Romney and the backstabbing GOP.

dominigan on June 28, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Fine..Good luck to you!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Prove it by voting for the grandfather of Obamacare? What’s happened to you, when did you start supporting Romney?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Hate to break it to you Sinking Stone, but electing Romney is the ONLY chance at repealing Obamacare. Keep the HOuse, take the Senate, and put a Repeal bill on Romney’s desk.

Voting for gary johnson or rupaul is only helping Maobama permanently destroy America.

LevinFan on June 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I’m gonna vote for Romney, but I have no illusions about what he will or will not do. He will not repeal Commie Care, not gonna happen.

And think about this for a minute. The first question in a debate with the White House Commie is on Commie Care and it’s relationship to Romney Care. Nothing he can say or do will help him with that one question and I can guarantee you the White House commie can’t wait to give his response.

bgibbs1000 on June 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

We could do fantastic in Congress, but 2/3 majority in each house is not attainable. Without Mitt, repeal cannot happen.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

There does not have to be an official repeal. Romney can take a lesson from Obama and simply refuse to collect the tax from non compliers. He can order the RS to simply ignore the tax form section that attests to coverage.
xkaydet65 on June 28, 2012 at 10:10 PM

yay! let’s get behind the unconstitutional power grabs as long as team red is doing it!

Seriously, someone else said it above, but the GOP house could have defunded this monstrosity, but they didn’t have the b@lls. So many people promised to derail this thing before it was voted on … Coburn, Demint, yadda yadda. when push came to shove they folded like cheap lawn chairs.

Firefly_76 on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

I am sorry, but you have to be pretty stupid to think that Romney at his worst imaginable could possibly be as bad as submitting to another four years of Obama.

TXMomof3 on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

He might be your nominee. I’m not a republican anymore. I’m already gone. Left the reservation. Shuffled off to Buffalo. I’m one of the guys you’ll have to convince. You’ll have to offer me something. Here’s a hint: A browbeating won’t work. Insulting me won’t work.

The fact that Romney is your nominee is your problem. It speaks worlds about you. It’s not my problem, though.

trigon on June 28, 2012 at 10:38 PM

I’m not here to hold your hand as far as your vote is concerned. Want to be a baby and stay home? Go ahead. You’re not advancing anything by doing so…you’re conceding to Obama and the progressives. Good for you.

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Go give yourself an enema, twerp. You have lost every single battle that matters, time after time, decade after decade. The GOP has had chance after chance, President after President, and blown it every single time, and now has a nominee that there is EVERY reason to suspect will do so again.

Stoic Patriot on June 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM

F*** your mindless cynicism. Seriously, where do you get off telling people that their struggles are in vain, that nothing we have done and fought for matters? Who the hell are you to tell anyone anything about politics or societal matters when all you do is log on here to bitch and moan about how things aren’t going like you want. You never give anything meaningful to anyone here, just slaps on the back to other whiners and losers.

You are a shame to both of the beautiful philosophies of your name.

thebrokenrattle on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

But Mitt is an Anchor taking use down. Time to cut the rope.

We will eventually win this. If we just continue on and pray for victory over traitors like Romney and the enemies like Obama.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

What are you talking about? Romney won the nomination…millions of people voted for this man..If he is not what you want, that is too bad…run someone who can win elections.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM

The GOP just won a SEVENTY FIVE YEAR record election in 2010 on THIS issue…Romney raised almost three million dollars off it today. I have no doubt that they’ll repeal it if they have the power. They’re going to hold another vote on it July 11..They know its’ power. It’s up to the electorate. So far the House has kept their promise. They’ll do it if they get elected.

bluesdoc70 on June 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM

When I went to Plan Z. Choose:

1. Risk voting in Romney to take down ObamaCare.
2. Lose our last best shot for good.

The argument that he would choose conservative judges had no certainty. It wouldn’t be high-profile enough to get much pressure. On the other hand, if the GOP throws everything into reminding people about ObamaCare for the next few months, Romney won’t be able to afford not doing everything possible to gut it.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Thank you! Very good to see. We need to keep fighting. Let’s elect Romney and then hold his feet to the fire. As you said, he’ll have no choice but to repeal it after making it such a huge campaign issue.

One of the few good things about such a terrible day today has been the tremendous fundraising for Romney. I’m in NH which is a toss up. Romney could take WI as well!

LevinFan on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I can remember hearing Glenn Beck say we were better off with Obama than McCain…that was when I stopped listening to him.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Obama is a statist who believes in global warming, campaign finance reform, except for himself, amnesty.
McCain is a traitor to his oen party who believes in global warming with cap/trade support, campaign finance reform, even though it was struck down, he is now attacking the guy he endorsed for president’s biggest donor, oh, and he believes in amnesty, hiding behind comprehensive immigration reform and a pathway to citizenship.
At least we can’t get blamed for Obama’s destruction, but your loyalty is duly noted.
And, what is wrong with making money, lady?

AllahsNippleHair on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Liberty or Death.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:41 PM

I don’t think many are scoffing at those words tonight. About two hours after the verdict, I got the first of three emails from 3 local tea party organizations. One used the words “civil disobedience” and another ended with your quote. And when I got home from work today, two houses on the street were flying their flags upside down. I hope this is a harbinger for reigniting passions.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Why can’t th GOP find 5 justices that love the constitution but liberals find judges who don’t move or sway. The GOP will betray you. I’m with beck I am totally done. Romney is going to get wiped in November.

Conservative4ev on June 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Tell ya’ what jackwagon, why don’t you pack up your tissues and take your @$$ to France. I hear they are really into that whole give up and surrender thing. We don’t need your sorry ass on the line right now. We need people who are mad, pissed off and ready to take any and all comers until we get Congress and the presidency back this November. After that, if the b@$$t@rds don’t repeal this abomination and start reigning in the power of the fed, then we have a serious fight on our hand, because this union of free people cannot stand with an unfettered federal government. … and then things get really serious and we really don’t need a bunch of quitters at that point.

Was I disappointed this morning? Danged right? Was I depressed? No, more saddened and frustrated. What I was, am, and remain is mad. Angry at the evil statists who have deigned to take away our freedoms, one at a time and now in one large gulp. I want to see them defeated and run out of town. I want to see freedom restored and I want liberty restored. I know that there are at least 28 states who feel the same way.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

We just have to repudiate Mitt Romney and we can continue the Tea Party and make a lot more progress towards the Constitutional Republic we once were.

But Mitt is an Anchor taking use down. Time to cut the rope.

We will eventually win this. If we just continue on and pray for victory over traitors like Romney and the enemies like Obama.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Heh. Yes, let’s repudiate Romney the “traitor” in order to win and get back at the Dems. Or something.

Are you sharing whatever you’re smoking?

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Can you imagine what is going to happen when Ginsburg kicks it and you losers stay home and give it to Obama?

TXMomof3 on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

If our last best shot is one of the leaders of the other side, an enemy of freedom and liberty, the grandfather of Obamacare, then our last best shot is over before it started.

But Romney isn’t our last best shot, Gary Johnson is. Vote for him, not the scumbags that invented Obamacare. Take a stand.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Oh please, people have been giving the GOP “one last chance” forever. Enough of that pointless BS already, just do it. Give the ruling class the middle finger and vote for Gary Johnson. Let’s make a difference and repeal Obamneycare! Please, don’t just roll over and give up again like every other time. This is too important.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 9:27 PM

If it were Palin or someone else with name recognition, it may have a remote hope in heck in being effective, but Gary Johnson? All he will do is siphon off votes from Romney, if siphons anything at all.

There’s no time for GJ to become known to voters. We have to get rid of Obama and then work on cleaning up the GOP or working on a third party. It will take time.

If you were saying this in 2008 you would have had people at least considering it. It’s too late in 2012.

As for “giving them a chance”, they’ve had it. Start getting rid of them along with Obama and every two/six years. If they’ve behaved in the time they’ve had, okay, if not BUH BYE.

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

I’m not here to hold your hand as far as your vote is concerned. Want to be a baby and stay home? Go ahead. You’re not advancing anything by doing so…you’re conceding to Obama and the progressives. Good for you.

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

That is absolutely true. You can not win if you don’t even try..

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Then please change your Login name.

hillsoftx on June 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Is that even possible?

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I don’t think so. I’ve tried, and I think the only way is to re-subscribe when there’s an open enrollment under a new name.

UltimateBob on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

If our last best shot is one of the leaders of the other side, an enemy of freedom and liberty, the grandfather of Obamacare, then our last best shot is over before it started.

But Romney isn’t our last best shot, Gary Johnson is. Vote for him, not the scumbags that invented Obamacare. Take a stand.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Elections matter. This is a republic…and it is useless to run some fruit cake libertarian who does not represent the views of the vast majority of Americans and who can not win..it is just a gift to the left.

I am tired of people telling me that the GOP or whatever do not represent the American people when they can not manage to field a candidate who can even manage to win a primary election.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Romney won’t be able to afford not doing everything possible to gut it.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Bull

Watch the video of Romney celebrating with Teddy kennedy when Romney Care became law.

There is no way on this green earth Romney will end Obama Care.

We either repudiate him or we will lose seats not win seats in November. Most likely what Romney and Obama are planing on.

Romney never won the base over. He became the nominee with a small plurality of the vote. He forced the others out with blatant lies spread with a lot of money form who knows where.

He is an unmitigated disaster. Most likely never was a Republican in any way.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

But Romney isn’t our last best shot, Gary Johnson is. Vote for him, not the scumbags that invented Obamacare. Take a stand.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for King Obama.

JPeterman on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Gary Johnson was a two term governor of a state and was very popular and successful. He has a lot more name recognition that Romney did in ’08.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Right now I’d follow Palin to form a third party rather than stay with Romney and the backstabbing GOP.

dominigan on June 28, 2012 at 10:36 PM

I’d strongly consider it, but keep in mind that a political party is more than just one person. I would have to see who joins her in breaking from the GOP and forming a truly conservative political party.

UltimateBob on June 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM

We could do fantastic in Congress, but 2/3 majority in each house is not attainable. Without Mitt, repeal cannot happen.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Yep. Congress and the senate could plunk a repeal in front of Obama and Obama could just use it for toilet paper. Someone has to sign it and it won’t be Obama. It’s been debated Romney will, but anything over 0% chance is at least a chance.

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

But Romney isn’t our last best shot, Gary Johnson is. Vote for him, not the scumbags that invented Obamacare. Take a stand.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

He’s not going to win. Even when I was proposing a write-in or third party candidate, I knew it would never win. We cannot overturn ObamaCare in the needed timeframe without Mitt. I don’t like it, but I didn’t imagine it would come out like this. ObamaCare has to be destroyed.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for King Obama.

JPeterman on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

A vote for the two scumbags that invented Obamacare, Obama and Romney, is a vote for Obamney. A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for freedom, liberty and prosperity.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I can remember hearing Glenn Beck say we were better off with Obama than McCain…that was when I stopped listening to him.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

He was right. Obama is a flaming socialist while McCain is a Progressive. Progressives are the reason that we as a country find ourselves in this current mess. Now that he has sped towards the cliff full throttle we have a chance to slow things down. The destruction didn’t happen in the last 31/2 years and repairing it will vigilance and time. Your Beckhate is noted.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

He’s not going to win.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

You’re psychic?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Why can’t th GOP find 5 justices that love the constitution but liberals find judges who don’t move or sway. The GOP will betray you. I’m with beck I am totally done. Romney is going to get wiped in November.

Conservative4ev on June 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Other than a make a lot of money running down everyone else..what has Beck actually accomplished?

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

There is no way on this green earth Romney will end Obama Care.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

There is no way on this green earth that Obama will end ObamaCare.

There is a chance that Romney will end ObamaCare.

Choose: chance or no chance?

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

kingsjester
 on June 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM</blockquote

Nice take my friend but you're missing a certain conclusion. I contend that the Democrats are akin to king George and the CINOs are LT Governor Durnham ("American" loyalist/Tory). The advocation was that a militia be raised in spite of the odds and naysayers. When, oh when are we going to throw off the schackles of big govt? People say they got burned by pappy bush so they voted for Perot and Clinton won. That's fine and dandy because Clinton heeded the 20% that voted for neither of the big two and tracked centrist. The gop didn't learn from that and the Reagan Democrats and gave us Dole ; another drubbing at the polls. Then they gave us Dubya who almost didn't win because 10 million conservatives stayed home. Then they gave us McVain and again millions stayed home rather than betray their convictions. Now we have Mittness. At all the elections mention, more and more people said "no mas", I will not let myself be screwed again. And each time the GOP whisper
s "just give me one more kiss babe". Well? Are y'all gonna roll over again like the abused wife? Especially when it is we the people who are sovereign? We must now wise up this militia that is the third party. We may be weak and outnumbered, but we will be reckoned with. I do not support Mittness and will not unless he convinces me somehow that he has constitutional principles. That requires deep thinking and he has yet to prove capable of doing that. A financial wizard does not equal a deep love of liberty and an instinctive suspicion of tyranny.

So barring this change, I expect to go vote for the conservative and whether I awake the next day to find that I was the only one or that ten or twenty million joined me, I will not fear what may follow because I, a majority of one, faced tyranny and said you shall not pass.

Gird your loins.

AH_C on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Heavens, haven’t you guys ever heard of Ross Perot? Libertarians soured on Bush 41 in 1992 and Perot split the vote. That left us with Clinton and almost got us HillaryCare which would have been worse than O-care. Clinton then went on to appoint some Supreme Court justices you may have heard of.

No third parties, we have a two party system for a reason. I can’t tell whether you third partiers are whiny libertarians who aren’t willing to do the things needed to win or just Obama’s concern trolls. I’m guessing the latter, but it doesn’t matter because they’re both the same thing.

If you believe in the Constitution, then you believe in building coalitions. That’s how you win. The Republican coalition has a tremendous amount in common, but we have to keep heart. The left never gives up. They do and say whatever it takes to win. That’s all that matters. How much you want to bet that Kagan/Sotomayor bribed Roberts with the Commerce Clause language only to reverse themselves the next time the question comes up? They lie. They cheat. And they hold their coalition together with an infinite amount of our money and our children’s money. They love to see us divided and hopeless.

So enough of this third party, holding your noses bit. Romney is the best we’ve got. If he gets in and the economy grows, we’ll get to appoint 4-5 justices over 8 years. You focus on Roberts, he’s just a nice guy who got bullied into a “compromise.” He was also appointed pre-Tea Party when abortion was the only question anyone cared about. It’s Breyer and Ginsburg we need to replace with freaking Paul Clement and Randy Barnett. This is a long game and it’s very winnable. Don’t let one guy get you down. It’s not what Breitbart would’ve done.

xuyee on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

You’re psychic?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

You’re obtuse.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Elections matter. This is a republic…and it is useless to run some fruit cake libertarian who does not represent the views of the vast majority of Americans and who can not win..it is just a gift to the left.

I am tired of people telling me that the GOP or whatever do not represent the American people when they can not manage to field a candidate who can even manage to win a primary election.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

No kidding. Gary Johnson is supposed to take the country by storm when he barely polled an asterisk in the primary?

FR can pull the lever for his guy, but it’s silly to believe he has any shot at winning.

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

ObamaCare has to be destroyed.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Then don’t vote for the people responsible for it, vote for the one guy in the race that isn’t.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

If it were Palin or someone else with name recognition, it may have a remote hope in heck in being effective, but Gary Johnson? All he will do is siphon off votes from Romney, if siphons anything at all.

There’s no time for GJ to become known to voters.

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

TRUTHFLASH: Gary Johnson is an unknown with no time to get known! The “Joo-h8ing isolationist” has more name recognition and a bigger fanbase! Ditzy McQuitter has more name recognition and a bigger fanbase!

Short of Obama, Romney and the two people listed dying before the election starts, GJ does. not. have. a. chance!

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

F*** your mindless cynicism.

Uh, yeah, because looking at numerous court cases and disastrous outcomes, including repeat circumstances of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is “mindless.”

Seriously, where do you get off telling people that their struggles are in vain, that nothing we have done and fought for matters?

When I look at the results.

Who the hell are you to tell anyone anything about politics or societal matters when all you do is log on here to bitch and moan about how things aren’t going like you want.

I hate to point out the irony, but haven’t you logged in here to bitch and moan about what I’m saying? Oh, sweet irony!

You never give anything meaningful to anyone here, just slaps on the back to other whiners and losers.

You are a shame to both of the beautiful philosophies of your name.

thebrokenrattle on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

I’ve told you what needs to be done. When you win at the Federal level, you need to make good appointments. The GOP, given 3 presidencies to do so, has never performed better than 50%. You need to get over 50% (provided no liberal presidencies) to achieve your goals.

When a business realizes that a strategy is failing, it changes strategies. I’m saying that supporting the GOP is a failed strategy. It’s time to change horses.

Stoic Patriot on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

You’re psychic?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

He is sane.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Gary Johnson was a two term governor of a state and was very popular and successful. He has a lot more name recognition that Romney did in ’08.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

It’s 2012 and no one knows who he is compared to Romney and Obama.

You honestly think he’s going to dazzle enough voters to overcome Awesome Obama? Honestly? Really?

I admire your persistence and loyalty, but sometimes one has to be pragmatic.

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Then don’t vote for the people responsible for it, vote for the one guy in the race that isn’t going to win even if Obama and Wrongney died in their sleep tonight.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

FTFY, PebbleBrains.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

You’re psychic?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

No but you only know one verse to the song and it is getting on our last nerve.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

You’re psychic?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

No, just not stupid.

TXMomof3 on June 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM

IMO..Glenn Beck is one fried mucket but that’s just me.

bluesdoc70 on June 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Then don’t vote for the people responsible for it, vote for the one guy in the race that isn’t.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

He will not win. I will bet every penny in my bank account on that, if you like.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM

He is sane.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

That’s a pretty elastic definition of ‘sane’, but he is correct.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM

If our last best shot is one of the leaders of the other side, an enemy of freedom and liberty, the grandfather of Obamacare, then our last best shot is over before it started.

But Romney isn’t our last best shot, Gary Johnson is. Vote for him, not the scumbags that invented Obamacare. Take a stand.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Good heavens, even after today, you are still working to make sure Obama gets re-elected. Romney has put so much on the line to repealing Obamatax that he will not be able to renege. Take this one victory at a time with a strategic view.

… and voting a guaranteed loser ain’t long-term strategic thinking.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Then don’t vote for the people responsible for it, vote for the one guy in the race that isn’t.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Gary Johnson can not win. That is just a fact. Most Americans have not heard of him and most of the ones who have do not want him. He is not representative of the American people. That is just a fact.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 11:01 PM

He was right. Obama is a flaming socialist while McCain is a Progressive. Progressives are the reason that we as a country find ourselves in this current mess. Now that he has sped towards the cliff full throttle we have a chance to slow things down. The destruction didn’t happen in the last 31/2 years and repairing it will vigilance and time. Your Beckhate is noted.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Please stop with the it’ll take time to fix BS. This whole big government thing can be fixed in less than a week. We just need to elect people with the balls to do it. Will it be painful and require great sacrifice, yes.

bgibbs1000 on June 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Just slightly – slightly – off topic……

Sarah Palin was on Greta tonight, and while she was speaking they flashed a photo of SCOTUS in their black robes, sitting in their wooden chairs.

I had to laugh at the shriveled up little prune sitting at the end. You all know who I’m talking about. She must weigh about 60 lbs. soaking wet.

UltimateBob on June 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

One other thing with a larger majority in the House and the Senate we can investigate the dickens out of the Obama Administration. We can show just how thourghly corrupt the Democratic Party is as the finances of America collapses all will blame rightfully the Democrats.

However were Mitt to win. We would wrongly be blamed for the financial collapse that will happen. Romney is not even suggesting he will cut spending any time soon he actually plans on increasing spending.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM

A vote for the two scumbags that invented Obamacare, Obama and Romney, is a vote for Obamney. A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for freedom, liberty and prosperity.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Put the bong down child.

JPeterman on June 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Then don’t vote for the people responsible for it, vote for the one guy in the race that isn’t going to win even if Obama and Wrongney died in their sleep tonight.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

FTFY, PebbleBrains.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Heh.

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Other than a make a lot of money running down everyone else..what has Beck actually accomplished?

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Well…he sure looks cute in overalls and cowboy boots, and his pledge to keep an eye on Scott Brown after those jokes he made about his daughters the night he won in MA has made all of us safer…

Bizarro No. 1 on June 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Not a single Republican voted for ObamaCare

Buy Danish on June 28, 2012 at 10:33 PM

True, but had Olympia Snowe not voted to pass it in committee, ObamaCare never could come up for a vote in the Senate. Name one Democrat that would have done what Snowe did had rolls been reversed.

Without Snowe, Collins and Specter (who was a Repoublican at the time), the Stimulus never would have passed.

bw222 on June 28, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Judge Roberts just stole Toto.

faraway on June 28, 2012 at 11:04 PM

The moderate Republicans are Democrats Light.Bush’s one saving grace, his admirers say, is that he at least appointed consersative SC justices. Well after the Great Betrayer, Benedict Roberts last week screwed the State of Arizona, and this week the entire country,that statement no longer rings true.

MaiDee on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Please stop with the it’ll take time to fix BS. This whole big government thing can be fixed in less than a week.

bgibbs1000 on June 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

That’s the same logic the NeoCons used when we went tramping into Iraq. “We can fix a thousand years of Muslim barbarity just like that! You’ll see! Before you know it they’ll have democracy and McDonalds everywhere!”

Short of every kook gathering in one area for a rally and an asteroid falling on the whole lot, there is no possible way we can fix everything in a YEAR. Much less a WEEK.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

A vote for Gary what”s his name is a vote for irrelevance. Period.

bluesdoc70 on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Liberty or Death.
MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:41 PM
I don’t think many are scoffing at those words tonight. About two hours after the verdict, I got the first of three emails from 3 local tea party organizations. One used the words “civil disobedience” and another ended with your quote. And when I got home from work today, two houses on the street were flying their flags upside down. I hope this is a harbinger for reigniting passions.
TxAnn56 on June 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM

NOW you’re talking! You people who think you’re going to “take back the country ” through the political process are in serious, serious denial.

Cleombrotus on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

If it were Palin or someone else with name recognition, it may have a remote hope in heck in being effective, but Gary Johnson? All he will do is siphon off votes from Romney, if siphons anything at all.

There’s no time for GJ to become known to voters. We have to get rid of Obama and then work on cleaning up the GOP or working on a third party. It will take time.

If you were saying this in 2008 you would have had people at least considering it. It’s too late in 2012.

As for “giving them a chance”, they’ve had it. Start getting rid of them along with Obama and every two/six years. If they’ve behaved in the time they’ve had, okay, if not BUH BYE.

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

It’s a lost cause, sinking stone has already sunk to the bottom.

LevinFan on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Put the bong down child.

JPeterman on June 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM

What the hell? Why are you-

Oh…him.

Heh.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

One other thing with a larger majority in the House and the Senate we can investigate the dickens out of the Obama Administration. We can show just how thourghly corrupt the Democratic Party is as the finances of America collapses all will blame rightfully the Democrats.

However were Mitt to win. We would wrongly be blamed for the financial collapse that will happen. Romney is not even suggesting he will cut spending any time soon he actually plans on increasing spending.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Um, if we’re holding Congress in this fantasy scenario of yours the MSM will make damn sure we take plenty of blame for any financial collapse. Hell, the GOP could be in the minority and it would still be pinned on them.

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Bull

Watch the video of Romney celebrating with Teddy kennedy when Romney Care became law.

There is no way on this green earth Romney will end Obama Care.

We either repudiate him or we will lose seats not win seats in November. Most likely what Romney and Obama are planing on.

Romney never won the base over. He became the nominee with a small plurality of the vote. He forced the others out with blatant lies spread with a lot of money form who knows where.

He is an unmitigated disaster. Most likely never was a Republican in any way.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Oh come on…the Heritage Foundation was there too you know and yet conservatives just love them…but then the Heritage Foundation helped write that bill.

Listen, Romneycare and Obamacare are not the same thing and Romney has a vested interest in striking down this law…

The primary season is over..none of the other candidates got enough votes to win so it is Romney…now if you want to sit out and just give it to Obama.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Please stop with the it’ll take time to fix BS. This whole big government thing can be fixed in less than a week. We just need to elect people with the balls to do it. Will it be painful and require great sacrifice, yes.

bgibbs1000 on June 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

The system isn’t set up that way. You do realize how election years are staggered for the Senate and how gerrymandering works right? The Progressives shaped how Washington is divided up over the last 100 years and 2 weeks is not enough time to change that.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Why can’t th GOP find 5 justices that love the constitution but liberals find judges who don’t move or sway. The GOP will betray you. I’m with beck I am totally done. Romney is going to get wiped in November.

Conservative4ev on June 28, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Other than a make a lot of money running down everyone else..what has Beck actually accomplished?

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Oh, I don’t know. He got the 9/12 project together, that big meeting on the National Mall a couple of years ago and it was nice to know we were not alone.
What have you done, besides hate on Beck, Rush, or anyone that slams your establishmentment ways?

AllahsNippleHair on June 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Other than a make a lot of money running down everyone else..what has Beck actually accomplished?

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

About as much as everyone else on shout radio. To be a self-propelled source of air pollution and an anger sink for right-wingers that kept getting sand kicked in their faces by liberals.

BTW: I hold their liberal counterparts in even more contempt, so don’t think I’m just ragging on the right.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:07 PM

He’s not going to win. Even when I was proposing a write-in or third party candidate, I knew it would never win. We cannot overturn ObamaCare in the needed timeframe without Mitt. I don’t like it, but I didn’t imagine it would come out like this. ObamaCare has to be destroyed.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

You’re not overturning Obamacare, or at least not in the way you think. Obama just gave everybody in the world that might look like their 30 and under a work visa, and now the SCOTUS gave them free health care. You think we’ve been burning through money for the past three years? You ain’t seen nothing yet. Obamacare is going to be repealed when all federal spending is going to be repealed, and the events of the last month ensures it will be sooner rather than later.

DFCtomm on June 28, 2012 at 11:07 PM

I’m not here to hold your hand as far as your vote is concerned. Want to be a baby and stay home? Go ahead. You’re not advancing anything by doing so…you’re conceding to Obama and the progressives. Good for you.

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM

That is absolutely true. You can not win if you don’t even try..

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

You’re both still unable to explain to me why I should rush out and vote for Romney and progressives. I want a conservative. I can’t trust you on that score any more than I can trust Obama. Possibly less. Obama doesn’t claim to be conservative.

I don’t think you understand your position. A lot of conservatives don’t trust you party guys. A lot of them are threatening to leave. Some of us already have. And, I’m still getting some of that insulting stuff from you. I told you that wouldn’t work.

BTW, there’s no way I’d ever let you hold my hand.

trigon on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Um, if we’re holding Congress in this fantasy scenario of yours the MSM will make damn sure we take plenty of blame for any financial collapse. Hell, the GOP could be in the minority and it would still be pinned on them.

changer1701 on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Tis true.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

You’re obtuse.

MadisonConservative on June 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM

So are you.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

News flash: The kingdom of God is not going to arrive on Air Force One. It doesn’t matter who’s riding in it. You Do the best you can with what you have.

bluesdoc70 on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

You’re psychic?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

No but you only know one verse to the song and it is getting on our last nerve.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 10:59 PM

+100

AllahsNippleHair on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Please stop with the it’ll take time to fix BS. This whole big government thing can be fixed in less than a week. We just need to elect people with the balls to do it. Will it be painful and require great sacrifice, yes.

bgibbs1000 on June 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

It takes time to find people with those balls. It would be a heck of a lot easier if they had name tags.

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Please stop with the it’ll take time to fix BS. This whole big government thing can be fixed in less than a week. We just need to elect people with the balls to do it. Will it be painful and require great sacrifice, yes.

bgibbs1000 on June 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Right dream on.

We will be lucky to knock Bonehead out as Speaker.

It takes 60 votes in the Senate. There is no way.

Steveangell on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Gary Johnson was a two term governor of a state and was very popular and successful. He has a lot more name recognition that Romney did in ’08.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM

How about this Sinking Stone? You think fruitcake Johnson can win?

How about a bet? Loser agrees never to post on Hotair again.

LevinFan on June 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

You’re both still unable to explain to me why I should rush out and vote for Romney and progressives. I want a conservative.

trigon on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Yeah, and I want a ride in the space shuttle for my birthday.

Guess what, petunia? Neither one of us is gonna get what we want anytime soon. This is the best the right-wing can dredge up for candidates, like it or not.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

what has Beck actually accomplished?

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Glenn Beck has hands on the pulse of what is happening. But your Beckhate is once again duly noted.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

That is absolutely true. You can not win if you don’t even try..

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Then don’t write off Gary Johnson without even trying.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Glenn Beck has hands on the pulse of what is happening.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

So does anyone with access to Google, big f*cking deal.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Jim DeMint once said he goes home to SC every weekend he can, for just this reason. He knows that staying in DC all the time slowly changes one, and the urge to fit in, be part of the power circles, is too much. It’s subtle, and one doesn’t realize it until it’s too late.

Wethal on June 28, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Jim DeMint is my neighbor and although I’ve never met him I believe he comes home to just enjoy the quiet, the beauty and being away from all of the ugliness that is politics in DC. We see him sailing on the lake by himself and it must be a bit of heaven being in the real world and away from lies, cheats and the insanity of politics.

LynnB74 on June 28, 2012 at 11:10 PM

It’s a lost cause, sinking stone has already sunk to the bottom.

LevinFan on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Yeah I know. It’s more for those that might read what he says and think erroneously that it has a whiff of sense to it.

kim roy on June 28, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I don’t think you understand your position. A lot of conservatives don’t trust you party guys. A lot of them are threatening to leave. Some of us already have. And, I’m still getting some of that insulting stuff from you. I told you that wouldn’t work.

BTW, there’s no way I’d ever let you hold my hand.

trigon on June 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Well for one thing, I do not consider Romney a progressive. For another thing, you guys had a shot at nominating a conservative and yet you could not do that..you just sit back and whine and act as if everyone else is supposed to magically produce the perfect candidate for you. If you want to leave…go..don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Terrye on June 28, 2012 at 11:11 PM

AllahsNippleHair on June 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM

9/12 was a powerful event for my family. I felt so strong and felt such hope for our country. Beck has his positives. The Restoring Honor rally was awesome, as well.

TXMomof3 on June 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Today’s decision may (stress may) have been the only thing that gets me to vote in november. But I’m under no illusions. Romney and Obama have the same positions on:

healthcare
gun control
TARP
NDAA
Patriot Act
drones
executive power to start wars
Federal Reserve, Ben bernanke

on and on.

We’re doomed.

Firefly_76 on June 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

That’s the same logic the NeoCons used when we went tramping into Iraq. “We can fix a thousand years of Muslim barbarity just like that! You’ll see! Before you know it they’ll have democracy and McDonalds everywhere!”

Short of every kook gathering in one area for a rally and an asteroid falling on the whole lot, there is no possible way we can fix everything in a YEAR. Much less a WEEK.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Fixing it is the easy part. One massive bill to repeal all this big government nonsense can be passed and be signed into law in one day. It’s the recovery from the fix that will take time.

bgibbs1000 on June 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Guess what, petunia? Neither one of us is gonna get what we want anytime soon. This is the best the right-wing can dredge up for candidates, like it or not.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

The best candidate in the race, based on his actual record in office, is Gary Johnson. He was far more successful that Romney and was so popular he won a second term, unlike Romney. And when Gary Johnson says he’s going to repeal/reform something, he has the record to prove that he means it, whereas with Romney all you have is a bunch of propaganda and lies.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

So does anyone with access to Google, big f*cking deal.

MelonCollie on June 28, 2012 at 11:10 PM

But he knows how to get the message out which is a big effing deal.

Rio Linda Refugee on June 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

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