Quotes of the day

posted at 10:45 pm on June 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

The Supreme Court’s healthcare ruling Thursday will deliver a definitive judgment on President Obama’s effectiveness as a leader

[P]recisely because of the scale of the [legislative] victory and its sweetness, its reversal in court on Thursday would be an especially bitter pill for the Obama camp to swallow…

“If this goes down, it reinforces the idea that he may be a very nice guy but he does not have the qualifications to be president,” [Ron Bonjean] said.

***

Mr. Obama has been doing more than sitting back and waiting. The president has three separate speeches prepared in anticipation of the ruling on his signature legislative achievement, a person familiar with them said.

One of the speeches addresses a complete overturn of the law, while another is crafted as if the court strikes down the law’s individual mandate but upholds other provisions. The third speech, for if the court upholds the entire law, is more celebratory, according to this person.

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Let’s put all this in historical context. The Democratic party is the oldest existing political party in the entire world, and it was founded as a people’s party. Andrew Jackson’s veto message of a bill to recharter the Bank of the United States stands to this day as a kind of mission statement for the modern party…

The individual mandate is an overwhelmingly unpopular item that requires a patently unjust transfer of wealth for the purpose of paying off the interest groups that have the biggest financial stake in health care. Considered next to Jackson’s veto message: It is a signal that the Democratic party has become the opposite of what its founders intended to be. The individual mandate is a testimony to the broken nature of the modern party. It is a symbol that, despite their egalitarian rhetoric, contemporary Democrats are ready, willing, and able to bend the policy needle toward the interests of “the rich… and the potent,” at the expense of the “farmers, mechanics, and laborers.”

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Mitt Romney reserved some of his harshest criticism of President Barack Obama’s health care reform law for the eve of the Supreme Court ruling that will decide its fate, labeling the law as “moral failure” by a president who chose to focus on healthcare, rather than jobs, at a time of national economic crisis.

“His policies were not focused on creating jobs. They were focused on implementing his liberal agenda. There’s nothing wrong with people having an agenda, but when the country’s in crisis, you have a moral responsibility to focus on helping people come out of that crisis,” Romney said at a rally here Wednesday evening. “It was not just bad policy; it was a moral failure to put forward a piece of legislation that wouldn’t help Americans get back to work, and to focus the energy of the White House on Obamacare.”

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“I believe 6-3,” Pelosi told the Reuters Washington Summit on Wednesday…

“If you get Kennedy, I don’t think that Roberts would want it to look political” and oppose it, Pelosi said, alluding to the fact that Roberts has said he favors unanimity on his court…

Pelosi voiced confidence that the healthcare law she helped draft will meet any constitutional test. “It is ironclad. We didn’t do this off the back of our hand,” she said.

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Becerra said the “worst outcome” would be a 5-4 decision, because “that will go, unfortunately, a long way [toward] confirming this growing belief in the gut of the American people that the Supreme Court no longer cares so much about the Constitution, it cares more about politics.”

Becerra added, “We should all take some time tonight to pray a little to make sure the Supreme Court doesn’t come out with another 5-4 decision which, once again, unmasks its political tendencies.”

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When Democrats lose, however, they tend to place the blame a little higher. The Supreme Court is rigged. The election was stolen by Diebold voting machines. After John Kerry lost in 2004, Democrats snickered about an electoral map showing the “real America” being composed of the West Coast and Northeast. The rest of the map — the red states Bush carried — was dubbed “Jesusland.” The inference being that the real problem was with the American people.

All of which is why, facing the prospect of losing the Obamacare case, the left’s first instinct hasn’t been to blame a bad law. Or bad lawyering. Or even just bad luck. No, to the liberal mind there are no bad outcomes; only broken systems. (In the Washington Post, Jonathan Turley claimed the very possibility Obamacare might be struck down suggested we should rethink the structure of the high court. He proposes we start by installing 10 more justices.)

And so, later this week liberal Democrats will condemn the high court as a body no longer fit to adjudicate our nation’s laws. It will have to be reformed and remade before any American, anywhere, can sleep soundly.

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[Ezra] Klein wrote this week of how the Right built a “permission structure” allowing conservative judges to rule the individual mandate unconstitutional.

Here’s the flip side of that story: liberal Strategic Epistemic Closure is all about dismantling any permission structure on the Right. For instance, get enough elites to dismiss an idea, and boom, it’s “discredited.” Get enough liberals to act shocked at a proposal, and you’ve made it “controversial.” Then pretend some objective standard has been met, and warn the media not to give credence to discredited or controversial ideas…

[A] permission structure has been built in the form of legal precedent — including many bad decisions by liberal judges — slowly making it possible for Washington to do what sounds absurd on its face: forcing us into intrastate commerce in the name of regulating interstate commerce.

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It would be easy to criticize all this for its sheer unselfconscious lack of seriousness: These people are actually saying that any outcome except the one they want must be driven by an outcome-oriented political crusade. Only their view could result from an actual engagement with the question before the Court, and any other view could only be a function of corruption or of cynicism. It must be nice to be so enlightened…

This debate is indeed a political debate, in the best and highest sense. But that does not make it a cynical debate, or an illegitimate one. On the contrary. The apparent inability of many left-wing commentators to see that point tells us more than all their diatribes in recent days. Their anger about the very possibility that the Court might disagree with them about Obamacare suggests that they do not believe that there can be such a thing as a serious political debate — they take serious and political to be opposites. And it shows.

***

“My guess is they’re not sleeping real well at the White House tonight — that’s the way it ought to be,” Romney said of the pending decision during a campaign speech in Virginia…

Returning to his earlier remark, Romney predicted “there’s going to be a lot of sleepless nights in the White House in the next few months.”

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Gads liberals are just nuts.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I can remember when I thought they just had different opinions from me. Now, in addition to being nuts, I think they are developmentally retarded, infantile and the worst of them are just plain evil. Someone linked to the New Black Panther twitter page, and what I saw there really made me wonder why I bother trying to be civil when it is so lost on these people. The different interest groups are all, from what I’ve seen on their web sites and such, extremely hateful and bitter people. Oh yeah, and most of them are really stupid. They don’t seem to be able to defend their positions except to spout their group-think platitudes and false moral equivalency crap.

Ok, I feel better now- LOL

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 12:46 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Hey remember when Hussein was told ” YOU LIE” when he was lying speechifying ?
You remember what exactly was Hussein reading from his teleprompter which got that response from a patriotic American ?

burrata on June 28, 2012 at 12:46 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

O_O..Do you really believe that crap you just posted!..wow..just..wow!!..

PS..Spark Plug someone has finally found Dave!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Which would also have happened had those companies gone through the legal process of bankruptcy and restructuring only without the illegal acts

Really… share one reputable industry analyst to back you up. There are none- more right wing drivel from people with a very limited grasp of the state of the industry in 2008.
GM’s creditors had absolutely zero intention of further extending its credit lines and made it abundantly clear that their only true interest laid in asset liquidation.
Anyone with even the most rudimentary ability to read an income statement or balance sheet knew that bankruptcy court was never a viable path to save either automaker.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

I’m going to sleep well tonight and not worry about the decision.

Bishop on June 27, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Same here.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 12:48 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

I pay for my own health insurance, you totalitarian sh!thead. My costs are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Don’t try and claim that “we” pay for health insurance. You don’t pay for me. I don’t ask you to, don’t want you to, and really don’t want to be in the same nation as despicable slugs like you.

And your concept of “mediocre” is ludicrous. All R+D is done for the US health care market because we’re the only ones willing to pay for the best. Then the rest of the world drafts off of us.

You must have cried for months when the USSR fell, you pathetic, lying, disingenuous piece of sh!t.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

It’s not the government that will eventually fix the problems in healthcare, but private enterprise. If the only thing that the Affordable Care Act achieves is openings and incentives for deep structural change, then it’s chances of success are much better. The current healthcare system isn’t sustainable over the long-term; like social security and medicare, it was established at a time when America’s economic primacy enabled benefits to citizens that are not realistic in today’s service-oriented economy.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Ooookay, so, the government taking over health care, making various private transactions in the health care industry illegal, taxing medical devices and establishing a federal panel to set policy for allowable and cost effective care (yes, Virginia, there are death panels) is going to incentivize private enterprise to solve health care problems. … or something.

Physicians innovate? Really? By getting out of the health care field.

Do you even read what you are writing? Does it even make sense to you?

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Good evening sir!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

You are just plain full of poop.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM

you pathetic, lying, disingenuous piece of sh!t.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Don’t hold back, tell us what you really think of him… ;)

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Oh yeah, and most of them are really stupid. They don’t seem to be able to defend their positions except to spout their group-think platitudes and false moral equivalency cra

There we go again.
Just keep typing and clicking, and enrich those stupid liberals at Google, Facebook, and Oracle. You don’t even need to understand how it works- maybe it’s magic!

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM

you pathetic, lying, disingenuous piece of sh!t.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Don’t hold back, tell us what you really think of him… ;)

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Yea talk about an ad hominem attack.. not sure what that achieved. Too much Glenn on the brain tonight?

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Just popped in to say hello…… so anything going on in this great country of ours I should know about….?????????……..;-)

angrymike on June 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

If it would have been a success, the gov’t wouldn’t still hold on to it.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM

ok, let’s try to tease this out. You believe that state-run capitalism is a better model that market fundamentalism…is that right?

r keller on June 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

you pathetic, lying, disingenuous piece of sh!t.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Don’t hold back, tell us what you really think of him… ;)

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Yea talk about an ad hominem attack.. not sure what that achieved. Too much Glenn on the brain tonight?

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Funny, I actually thought it was a pretty good description of you.

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM

You wing nuts don’t understand that the US healthcare system is a bloated nightmare of inefficiency and waste.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

So are the USPS and public schools. How is the government interjection into the healthcare system going to make anything better?

I know morons like you can’t understand, but the problems in the healthcare system all started with the government.

RedCrow on June 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM

” you wingnuts just don’t understand”

No dude, you don’t. You better quit effing with my country. I grow weary of it. I’m fully awake and understand your bs.

wolly4321 on June 28, 2012 at 12:57 AM

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM

I am holding back :):)

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Dire is this one,bayam,always this way ?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Anyone who thinks government run anything is better than private run anything is a fool…..

angrymike on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Good evening to you Dire. The bayam one is not like the rest of us, is he?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

No dude, you don’t. You better quit effing with my country. I grow weary of it. I’m fully awake and understand your bs.

wolly4321 on June 28, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Not until we can all sleep under the light of a communist moon and wake every morning with deep gratitude in our hearts for the wise words of Mao and Lenin.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Really… share one reputable industry analyst to back you up. There are none- more right wing drivel from people with a very limited grasp of the state of the industry in 2008.
GM’s creditors had absolutely zero intention of further extending its credit lines and made it abundantly clear that their only true interest laid in asset liquidation.
Anyone with even the most rudimentary ability to read an income statement or balance sheet knew that bankruptcy court was never a viable path to save either automaker.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

OK, so, with GM gone, nobody was ever going to buy automobiles again? … or maybe, people were going to buy more automobiles from more efficient manufacturers than GM had become. So, those other manufacturers would be picking up the sales from GM resulting in greater sales thus more manufacturing, thus more jobs for those companies.

You fail to explain why asset liquidation would have been such a horrible outcome vs. a government bailout that distorted the market and destroyed faith in the US investment system given that investors were essentially told that any contractual agreements were null and void when the government stepped in.

… and why was it that bankruptcy could not save either of those companies? Since you can read a balance sheet, go ahead and let us rubes know why the companies could not be saved unless the government stepped in, abrogated contract law and re-apportioned assets as the government saw fit while using taxpayer money to prop up those businesses.

Companies go under, other companies arise. That is the way of the market place. Attempting to distort that just makes things worse. Not right wing propaganda, just plain economic facts. The actions of the Government in the GM events did enormous harm to investor and creditor confidence.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

There we go again.
Just keep typing and clicking, and enrich those stupid liberals at Google, Facebook, and Oracle. You don’t even need to understand how it works- maybe it’s magic!

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Oh, when I said developmentally retarded, I didn’t mean you couldn’t learn some tricks, I meant your world view is retarded, infantile, etc. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

And your concept of “mediocre” is ludicrous. All R+D is done for the US health care market because we’re the only ones willing to pay for the best. Then the rest of the world drafts off of us.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Yeah, I forgot to remark on that part of his insipid comment. Only the chronic koolaid drinkers spout that nonsense. Some lefty “think-tank” somewhere bodged some numbers together (like they always do) to make US healthcare look second-rate.

RedCrow on June 28, 2012 at 1:01 AM

B, I don’t think that one is gonna wise up overnight ……

angrymike on June 28, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Dire is this one,bayam,always this way ?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 12:58 AM

I’m not Dire, I know…but bayam is a pretender about all things economics. Tries to take threads off topic by dissertations about false claims.

The topic of tonight’s QotD is Obama’care’, yet s/he is talking about the messianic powers of Obama the job creator, when he is in fact the destroyer of most all.

Bayam also believes that only leftists are good CEOs.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Anyone who thinks government run anything is better than private run anything is a fool…..

angrymike on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Hold on, the government isn’t moving to a single payer system. It’s not even guaranteeing coverage for everyone. Private insurance companies remain in charge.

In some ways, the Affordable Care Act is the worst of compromises in that it satisfies no one. It’s a much weaker degree of reform and change than Romneycare introduced in Massachusetts.

The individual mandate is an overwhelmingly unpopular item that requires a patently unjust transfer of wealth for the purpose of paying off the interest groups that have the biggest financial stake in health care. Considered next to Jackson’s veto message: It is a signal that the Democratic party has become the opposite of what its founders intended to be. The individual mandate is a testimony to the broken nature of the modern party. It is a symbol that, despite their egalitarian rhetoric, contemporary Democrats are ready, willing, and able to bend the policy needle toward the interests of “the rich… and the potent,” at the expense of the “farmers, mechanics, and laborers.”

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:03 AM

listens2glenn on June 28, 2012 at 12:20 AM

.
I’m glad I saw the :-); otherwise….

bluefox on June 28, 2012 at 12:30 AM

.
Glad I tacked it on there.

listens2glenn on June 28, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Pelosi is off her rocker as always. She needs to repair to the rest home already.

NoLeftTurn on June 28, 2012 at 1:04 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

If it would have been a success, the gov’t wouldn’t still hold on to it.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Do you hold the keys now? :)

INC on June 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

In about 9 hours, hopefully, we can all breath easier.

When Pres. Romney is inaugurated, I will finally sleep well.

Voter from WA State on June 28, 2012 at 12:56 AM

It Won’t Be Long…

lynncgb on June 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Not until we can all sleep under the light of a communist moon and wake every morning with deep gratitude in our hearts for the wise words of Mao and Lenin.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Sadly, he means this, except his deep gratitude is directed toward the likes of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc.

Night Owl on June 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

of course, the big problem with GM was the liabilities…you know retiree h/c and pensions.

some wag i read said that GM was basically a pension holding company that had a sideline of cars. The ratio of retiree to worker is terrible.

but, see that’s the problem…the unions would rather have barry bail them out

r keller on June 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Well I’m going to bed, you guys better save your energy ……… BIG day today………
Goodnight all ……….;)

angrymike on June 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Market fundementalism. That’s a new one. Seriously, that’s original pigspeak.

Orwellian.

wolly4321 on June 28, 2012 at 1:06 AM

angrymike, no ? Not likely it sounds like. Schadenfreude seems to know him/she/it fairly well, me thinks.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Do you hold the keys now? :)

INC on June 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM | Delete

Looks like it, but I have no idea what it all means. It just appears like this.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Do you hold the keys now? :)

INC on June 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

I wish.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Looks like it, but I have no idea what it all means. It just appears like this.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Promotion ?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Just read the posts..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Regardless of what happens tomorrow, I fail to see how this legislation would be the “definitive judgement” on Obama’s leadership. He didn’t lead anything, he ran roughshod over the minority in Congress and the majority of the American people to ram this legislation down the throat of the nation. He’s not a leader, he’s a spoiled brat who will either gloat and sneer or throw an epic tantrum when the ruling is announced.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Excellent post.

I’d just add that when a poorly performing company goes out of business, the whole system ends up functioning better because those resources (which would have been used by the defunct company) are used more efficiently.

Also, I think GM could probably have been saved through bankruptcy.

RedCrow on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

wolly, that’s Soros’ term for free enterprise (pejorative)

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:03 AM

well, you are right about Jackson…so where does someone like you go?

the Dems/barry are corrupt as hell.

r keller on June 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Promotion ?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM | Delete

Better behave now :)

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Promotion ?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM | Delete

If I’d be given the keys, bannings w/b banned.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Bayam also believes that only leftists are good CEOs.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Marxist indoctrination is a powerful narcotic, once addicted it allows one to believe in the righteous superiority of ones own self, without ever having to actually do anything to validate that belief other than to point at other who don’t accept your world view and proclaim them less than human.

It allows one to decide that others rights, property and lives both can and should be deprived for the good of the collective and that anyone not subscribing to the exact same ideological philosophy is evil and must for the good of the collective be destroyed.

But best of all, it removes the burden of thinking for oneself or accepting personal responsibility for the actual physical results of their actions.

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM

bayam, Single Payer is the Goal. They are on record affirming that. The leftists.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Good evening to you Dire. The bayam one is not like the rest of us, is he?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Not Dire, but nope, not like the rest of us. Typical statist who believes that the state holds the keys to Utopia if only us rubes would just recognize our betters and realize that a central planned and regulated economy will provide prosperity to everyone with unicorns and skittles forever, amen. The efficiency of the Post Office, the DMV, mass transit, the success of the welfare state and solvency of social security don’t indicate to these people that massive government really isn’t the answer to problems, but is the problem. No, instead, those failures are just indicators that government is not yet powerful enough and has not confiscated sufficient wealth from the producers to fully implement Utopia.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

If I’d be given the keys, bannings w/b banned.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM

But you could loan them to me every once in a while, right?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Sadly Bayam does mean it, and so do I.

wolly4321 on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

collective

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM | Delete

For using one of my most despised words “collective”, you are Deleted. Note above :)

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

I wish.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Ditto.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

I agree.

INC on June 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

But you could loan them to me every once in a while, right?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM | Delete

For the optimum price, of course :)

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Which would also have happened had those companies gone through the legal process of bankruptcy and restructuring only without the illegal acts

Really… share one reputable industry analyst to back you up. There are none- more right wing drivel from people with a very limited grasp of the state of the industry in 2008.
GM’s creditors had absolutely zero intention of further extending its credit lines and made it abundantly clear that their only true interest laid in asset liquidation.
Anyone with even the most rudimentary ability to read an income statement or balance sheet knew that bankruptcy court was never a viable path to save either automaker.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM

.
The GM creditors owe it to their investors to cut the losses as short as they can.
Creditors do NOT owe it to society-at-large to accept losses for any purpose, including keeping employees working and paid.

The American auto manufacturers need to FAIL, and start over.

Period.

listens2glenn on June 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:03 AM

How is the mandate, in the long run, any different than Social Security? Everybody pays so everybody gets, without the consideration of population, longevity and “premiums” needed to cover everyone. And what is suppose to start running out of money in 2013? Social Security.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM

collective

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM | Delete

For using one of my most despised words “collective”, you are Deleted. Note above :)

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

:P

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

AZ, it sounds like bayam is in it pretty deep then. Does bayam at least come with any good tunes?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:17 AM

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I can only speak for myself but I wouldn’t own a GM on a bet.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:19 AM

:P

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM | Delete

Clever! You’re redeemed :)

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:19 AM

For the optimum price, of course :)

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Lol! Fair enough. So if it goes the wrong way for us tomorrow, is that when I cancel all my private insurance ?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Me too. I’m nervous. I will be refreshing Drudge every nano second starting in the early morning.

Somehow the decision will have a certain amount of yuck to it.

But maybe, just maybe they will kill this whole shebang for good.

SparkPlug on June 28, 2012 at 1:20 AM

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM

AZ, it sounds like bayam is in it pretty deep then. Does bayam at least come with any good tunes?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:17 AM

What is genuinely frightening is just how many of our so called fellow American Citizens have been indoctrinated into Marxism and they don’t even know it.

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Dear Lord, may this be so in this decision. Not our will, but yours be done.
AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 12:20 AM

I like to amend the last line of the Lord’s Prayer to say:
“Deliver our country from evil. Amen”

PatriotGal2257 on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM

This is the song for tonight!..:)

PS..Beautiful voice!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

You wing nuts don’t understand

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Is that what you learned in debate class? Just go nuclear and say “You dumb hicks” and work from there.

arnold ziffel on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I can only speak for myself but I wouldn’t own a GM on a bet.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Sigh… I really love my Corvette, but damn it’s almost as bad about taking all my money as Obama and his Chicago Thug buddies…

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

I’ve been waiting a few years now for Bayam to back up his repeated claim that 95% of Wall St are Democrats.

Try not to waste too much time with him, as he is a liar.

Chuck Schick on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

I’m going to go to sleep but I will make one musical contribution and dedicate to David Brooks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_EFdod4YDo

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 12:20 AM

I like to amend the last line of the Lord’s Prayer to say:
“Deliver our country from evil. Amen”

PatriotGal2257 on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Amen and Amen…

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

So if it goes the wrong way for us tomorrow, is that when I cancel all my private insurance ?

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:20 AM | Delete | Delete and Ban

Sure. Go on the dole. Live like the leftists do. Be a moocher. I think you’re too nice to be a looter.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

I can only speak for myself but I wouldn’t own a GM on a bet.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Yep, after they became Government Motors, they are not in consideration for any future vehicle purchases.

Unless, of course the mandate is upheld. Then the possibility that the government could force me to buy GM because of a “compelling national interest” could become reality.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

She does, indeed, have a great voice. I will be a work all day tomorrow with only the slightest chance of peeking at a computer to get the news. Booo!

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:25 AM

This is the song for tonight!..:)

PS..Beautiful voice!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Here a song for the Praazy of sleezy…

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM

arnold ziffel on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Kinda reminds of something someone once said about terrorists once. It was something to the effect of, “Hard to have a conversation with someone who’s first words are, I want to kill you.”

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM

I just googled “my three sons” since I’ve never heard of it.

Don Grady, ex-Mouseketeer and ‘My Three Sons’ star, dies at 68

JPeterman on June 27, 2012 at 11:34 PM

You gotta laugh Mr. Peterman. The series probably wasn’t a hit in 1966 Czechoslovakia.

Looks like America is fixing to find out about those good times our own selves.

arnold ziffel on June 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

He didn’t lead anything, he ran roughshod over the minority in Congress and the majority of the American people to ram this legislation down the throat of the nation. He’s not a leader, he’s a spoiled brat who will either gloat and sneer or throw an epic tantrum when the ruling is announced.

He didn’t even lead that. He just slapped his name on the legislation after turning it over to Pelosi and Reid to try to hammer out while he jumped on TV every chance he could to try to sell this small bag full of magic beans without even bothering to see if they were actually beans in the bag.

Other than that I agree, he isn’t a leader. He is a larger version of what he was in Chicago- a community organizer who specializes at working people up and stomping off to demand something (non specified or else the crowd turns when it isn’t what every individual wants) and that someone else provide it. Which is why once he lost the people in the House and Senate capable of being able to do the lifting he just started running against “some people who say” because he is incapable of leading a group without some enemy, some strawman to unite them against rather than get them to follow him because he has a plan he can articulate.

Betenoire on June 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

We have had two Corvettes, a Camero (70′s), 56 BelAir, 66 Nova, two 66 GTO’s (husband) and several uninspiring vehicles under the GM brand umbrella, we supported them, they are the ones who ruined the relationship. Plenty of fish in the sea, so to speak.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

i just looked up GM stock price out of curiosity..and lo and behold this was the first article

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-27/u-dot-s-dot-automakers-cut-retirees-loose?campaign_id=yhoo

they are buying out peoples pension payments 500K-1000K. But salaried only…the uaw ain’t having none of that.

i also read somewhere that they make cars now with many fewer employees because of all the robots.

r keller on June 28, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Bayam just wants to help us understand. Negative reinforcement. :)

arnold ziffel on June 28, 2012 at 1:30 AM

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

The sad thing is that before all this went down, we have a GM credit card that earns money towards a new car. We have quite a lot accrued.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:30 AM

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Bingo!!..I agree fully!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Betenoire on June 28, 2012 at 1:28 AM

True enough, and even those two clowns left it pretty much fill in the blank. I don’t understand how any of the Bill could be constitutional but I am sure SCOTUS will disappoint me in some way.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Just read the posts..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Do I have to, I’m practicing up on becoming a moocher, read em for me so I can take the night off. I feel lazy.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:33 AM

There is a video clip on National Review Online, in which Barry said, in 2009 :Offshored Jobs Are Not Coming Back, and Shouldn’t

bayview on June 28, 2012 at 1:34 AM

She does, indeed, have a great voice. I will be a work all day tomorrow with only the slightest chance of peeking at a computer to get the news. Booo!

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:25 AM

From what I understand the coverage is going to HEAVY by everyone..It is going to be off the charts!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Corvette is probably an even trade money wise for a volt. Who wouldn’t jump at the chance for that trade even up?/

wolly4321 on June 28, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Here a song for the Praazy of sleezy…

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Can’t think of anything more appropriate for the Obamination occupying the White House than that absolute abomination of the original Carly Simon tune. May I be diplomatic and say that absolutely reeked?

How about the real thing as a brain cleanser: Carly

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:36 AM

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Bingo!!..I agree fully!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Here’s another description of the fraud currently living at 1600

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:36 AM

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM

I hear you!..Very nteresting cover!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Corvette is probably an even trade money wise for a volt. Who wouldn’t jump at the chance for that trade even up?/

wolly4321 on June 28, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Well, I would gladly trade some smug a$$holes volt for a brand new Corvette…

SWalker on June 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Do I have to, I’m practicing up on becoming a moocher, read em for me so I can take the night off. I feel lazy.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:33 AM

Well the verdict comes tomorrow!..We will let you know!..:)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Not until we can all sleep under the light of a communist moon and wake every morning with deep gratitude in our hearts for the wise words of Mao and Lenin.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Insect.

Midas on June 28, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Night all. May the Lord preserve our republic!

Not by might says the Lord
Not by power says the Lord
But by my Holy Spirit

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:21 AM

She does, indeed, have a great voice.

Cindy Munford on June 28, 2012 at 1:25 AM

And Great Legs as well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7HgO9QhAc&feature=related

bayview on June 28, 2012 at 1:42 AM

How about the real thing as a brain cleanser: Carly

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Excellent!..I think I wore out a 45 of that song growing up!!..)

Dire Straits on June 28, 2012 at 1:42 AM

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Wow.

Bmore on June 28, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Unless, of course the mandate is upheld. Then the possibility that the government could force me to buy GM because of a “compelling national interest” could become reality.

AZfederalist on June 28, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Sounds like Romneycare as it was originally authored by the Hoover Institute. Damn the think tanks.

bayam on June 28, 2012 at 1:44 AM

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