Pressure on House Dems as NRA to score Holder contempt vote

posted at 8:41 am on June 27, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Allahpundit briefly mentioned this last night, but it’s worth a closer look — as it may be a bellwether of bad news to the Obama White House.  Rep. Jim Matheson (D-UT), who faces a tough challenge in November from Republican Mia Love, has announced that he will vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt tomorrow, assuming that the Obama administration can’t cut a deal before the vote in the morning.  He’s the first Democrat to break ranks, but he may not be the last:

Rep. Jim Matheson will vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for withholding documents pertaining to a failed Justice Department sting that let guns get into the hands of drug runners.

Matheson, D-Utah, announced his position Tuesday, joining House Republicans, such as Utah Reps. Rob Bishop and Jason Chaffetz, who have railed against Holder’s reaction to the congressional probe into the Justice Department’s “Fast and Furious” operation. One of the lost guns was later used in the murder of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

“It just compounds the tragedy when both sides play politics instead of releasing the facts. The Terry family, the public and Congress deserve answers,” Matheson said. “Sadly, it seems that it will take holding the attorney general in contempt to communicate that evasiveness is unacceptable.”

This tends to undercut the argument that the contempt vote is nothing more than a partisan electoral fight.  Democrats, as the Salt Lake City Tribune notes, have claimed that Holder has been cooperative, releasing more than 7,000 pages of documentation.  Unfortunately for Democrats, the House Oversight Committee has subpoenaed more than 130,000 pages of documents, which means that the DoJ has blocked more than 94% of the documents under subpoena.  Their last-ditch offer to avoid contempt was even more ridiculous, as John Hinderaker explains:

The Obama administration has asserted a frivolous claim of executive privilege with respect to an unknown number of DOJ documents. (The number is unknown because the administration refuses to provide a standard privilege log.) Now, Eric Holder wants to offer the House a “representative sample” of less than 30 pages of the wrongfully withheld documents, in exchange for which the House is asked to abandon the Fast and Furious investigation altogether! This is absurd, even by Holder standards. We don’t know how many documents the administration is wrongfully withholding, but let’s assume they comprise only 2,000 pages (an extraordinarily small number). So the administration wants to select 30 harmless pages out of the 2,000, and thereby assure the House that the 1,970 they didn’t select are also insignificant! Somehow, nearly every day during the Age of Obama, I find myself asking: how dumb do they think we are?

The question isn’t how dumb they think Republicans are, but how much longer they can convince House Democrats in tough races this November to keep peddling that nonsense.  Time already ran out for Obama and Holder in Utah’s 4th CD, and the NRA will make that clock tick even louder by scoring this as a vote on gun rights:

Now that the politically potent National Rifle Association is keeping score, some Democrats are expected to join House Republicans in supporting the contempt of Congress vote against Holder.

One of those Democrats, Rep. Jim Matheson of Utah, said, “Sadly, it seems that it will take holding the attorney general in contempt to communicate that evasiveness is unacceptable. It is a vote I will support.”

The gun owners association injected itself last week into the stalemate over Justice Department documents demanded by the House Oversight Committee. The NRA said it supports the contempt resolution and will keep a record of how members vote.

An NRA letter to House members contended that the Obama administration “actively sought information” from Operation Fast and Furious to support its program to require dealers to report multiple rifle sales.

The program, which began last August, imposed the requirement for sales of specifically identified long guns in four border states: Texas, California, Arizona and New Mexico. A federal judge upheld the requirement.

Republicans don’t need Democratic votes to pass a resolution of contempt, but getting Democratic support will improve the politics of the effort immeasurably.  That will rip the fig leaf from the White House and Department of Justice and focus the attention on the 99% opacity coming from Obama and Holder on Operation Fast and Furious.


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Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Eh?

EnglishRogue on May 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Why?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

you go girl!

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Go Mia!

22044 on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I’ll be sending a donation shortly….

..Aside from the Presidential race, her race irritated the Sh*t out
of me in 2012…hey Utah, how’s about you get your heads out of your Azzes on this woman, Mkay?

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

promachus is just a “hater”…who knows? Who cares? And at this point, what difference does it make anyway?

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Super. I will send her California dollars, more this time than last time.

GaltBlvnAtty on May 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Media spin in 5….4….3…

She’s black and a republican……

…..therefore she is a sellout and Uncle Tom.

Besides she didn’t win last time, what is the reason she could win this time exactly?

PappyD61 on May 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

^ Racist.

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

A smart conservative black woman makes the MSM and all liberals so nervous and scared, all they can do is ad hominem attacks.

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Hopefully the group that monitors election fraud has/will receive(d) their
IRS status by now (delayed because of the “scandal”) and can assure voters there is no voter fraud this time.

This woman is awesome! I was shocked when she lost last time.

Amjean on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

We can’t pound sand. We’ll be audited and get brought up on EPA charges.

cbenoistd on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Racisssssst!

I couldn’t resist.

belad on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

Because Ryan’s budget, Tax n’Spend…

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

She’s black, therefore she’s stealth establishment. Racist.

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Beat me to it!

belad on May 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

..Aside from the Presidential race, her race irritated the Sh*t out
of me in 2012…hey Utah, how’s about you get your heads out of your Azzes on this woman, Mkay?

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Her race irritated the Sh*t out of the left in 2012, too. But not in the same way that you meant. Off the plantation, and all that.

I will be sending her a donation as well. With more to come as her campaign goes forward. Go, Mia!

iurockhead on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

The Boston Herald is reporting John McCain warned against Obama Nixon comparisons today at a campaign stop in support of Massachusetts senate candidate Gabriel Gomez. McCain called the comparison “over reaching”

birdwatcher on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

promachus, a “stealth”, as in not at all, liberal plant pretending to know what conservatism is. So easy to spot. Forgot to remove the Sal Alinsky mask even.

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Is that because “stealth” fighters are black?

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Is she less conservative than the Dem holding the seat?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

She’ll win easy. She lost by 800 votes. The Dem had Obama at the top of the ticket driving turnout. Not gonna happen in a mid term. Now, can we get Allen West back?

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

The Boston Herald is reporting John McCain warned against Obama Nixon comparisons today at a campaign stop in support of Massachusetts senate candidate Gabriel Gomez. McCain called the comparison “over reaching”

birdwatcher on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

McCain would have kittens to hear what some of us call him.

Liam on May 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Racist.

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM

She looks fairly clean and articulate, has anyone taken the time to smell her just to make sure?

Bishop on May 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

How could this good woman have lost in UT?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.
idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

1) Your proof?; AND
2) The relevance of your statement, please. Why does it matter if she’s a Romney “sock puppet?” You’d prefer the Pelosi sock puppet?

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

McCain called the comparison “over reaching”

birdwatcher on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

The creche called McCain.

What two shameful senators AZ has!

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Why do you ask? What is it to you or anyone?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

How could this good woman have lost in UT?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM

She ran a crappy campaign against an opponent she underestimated, while refusing to believe unfavorable polling data. Same reason a lot of our guys lost in ’12.

Maybe this time she’ll tone down her national ambitions and get to retail politicking.

KingGold on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Yes. So is Jim Matheson.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Why do you ask? What is it to you or anyone?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Geez. Why are there haters on this thread.

Only important matter: She’s better than Jim Matheson.

Everything else is…well…irrelevant!

22044 on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

She’s got my vote. Again.

She lost by 700 some-odd votes last time.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Why do you ask? What is it to you or anyone?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

I see the bigoted trolls have arrived. It must be after Springer.

CurtZHP on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Impressive lady. We need more.

coldwarrior on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

She’s running in Utah you moron. Even most the Democrats are Mormon. Including Jim Matheson, her Democrat rival.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Hate to disagree with you Idesign…Saw her interviewed twice.

Came away impressed with her….yes, she was a Romney backer,
but being in Utah, she saw the hand writing on the wall,
so to speak.

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

I am amazed and impressed by people willing to put up with all the bad press to “apply” for jobs in Congress. I couldn’t do it and admire those that do.

E9RET on May 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

How so, provide your thesis, your evidence, provide citations for the evidence, demonstrate how the evidence supports your thesis, draw valid conclusions. Be complete, show all your work.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

On second thought, I hope Jim Matheson hires you to help out with his campaign. I’m sure your “Mormon’s are irrational nuts” message will be a real winner here.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Nice woman – I will likely contribute to her campaign

jake-the-goose on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

She’s running in Utah you moron. Even most the Democrats are Mormon. Including Jim Matheson, her Democrat rival.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

And, now, please enjoy a reprise of her RNC speech:

I remember that when she was speaking at the 2012 GOP convention, several of the “progressive” news channels had their panel of talking heads talking over her speech… the coverage was of the panel, and you could only see (not hear) Mia Love on stage in the background. And it seemed to be that way any time that a speaker who was not a white male was on stage. You see, the “progressives” have a dishonet meme to maintain… that the GOP is only for “old white men”.

Truth knows no gender, age, or skin color.

And the truth will prevail.

ITguy on May 20, 2013 at 1:49 PM

I’m sure your “Mormon’s are irrational nuts” message will be a real winner here.

That would be “Irrational, MURDEROUS, RACIST, POLYGAMOUS nuts.” Let’s get our slanders right.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

So, Matheson has poor judgement?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

How so, provide your thesis, your evidence, provide citations for the evidence, demonstrate how the evidence supports your thesis, draw valid conclusions. Be complete, show all your work.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

mormonism is a phony religion (maybe redundant?) that discriminated against blacks

Mia Love appears to be black

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

This is great news. I hope she wins this time and we will send funds to help her.
L

letget on May 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Uh considering how “Bull” Connor and the DEMOCRATS treated Blacks…OH WAIT, that’s very different and doesn’t count, my bad…..

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

mormonism is a phony religion (maybe redundant?) that discriminated against blacks

Mia Love appears to be black

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Now tell me about the Love the Democratic Party had for Blacks, and why it isn’t odd for them to be Democrats?

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Easy there lib4life..that’s what got you banned last time.

HumpBot Salvation on May 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Give me a break. “Not much at all” is utterly ridiculous. Let’s break out the Top 100 issues concerning Conservatives in America and see how she lines up. I’m thinking she’s in the 98% percentile. “Not Much At All” implies she’s down in the 20s. So lame and absurdly false.

MikeknaJ on May 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Considering how Democ rats treated blacks, historically, I question your judegment.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Oh, so you’re not a religious bigot you’re an old fashioned racist.

Poor Mia Love could use your help in deciding the most important aspects of her life right?

And if Mia Love – as a black person – is showing poor judgement in your opinion by choosing to be a Mormon because of “how Mormon’s treated blacks” then why does Matheson get a pass because he’s also chosen to be a Mormon?

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

The following link used to show Mia Love’s 2012 RNC speech on C-SPAN’s web site:

http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Mayor-Mia-Love-at-the-2012-Republican-National-Convention/C3789358/

That link is now broken, and trying an advanced search on

“Mia Love” Convention

returns 0 results for her speech

What’s up with that?

ITguy on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

It’s Mormons, fool of Harvard (liar).

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

then why does Matheson get a pass because he’s also chosen to be a Mormon?

#WHITEPRIVILEGE

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Naw, she’s a Black Liberation Theology deciple..Better now??

Your posts have become truly idiotic…I mean
with EVERY WORD YOU TYPE.

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

And if Mia Love – as a black person – is showing poor judgement in your opinion by choosing to be a Mormon because of “how Mormon’s treated blacks” then why does Matheson get a pass because he’s also chosen to be a Mormon?

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

mormonism is a phony religion (maybe redundant?) that discriminated against blacks

Mia Love appears to be black

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

But Jim Matheson is not only white, he’s Mormon and a member of the party of Jim crow racism and slavery.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Why? It is because she’s not named Saaaarah?
///

annoyinglittletwerp on May 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Glad to see her running again..Good deal..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

To John McCain….yes the Nixon Obama comparisons are not good…..they are completely Iinsulting to Nixon who in comparison basically was a little naughty in relation to the scorched earth policy of destroying this country and it’s constitution and bill of rights and spit on all it’s laws policy Obama has enacted.

Caseoftheblues on May 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Excellent!

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

You must be 10, at the most.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Love will be running against Matheson.

Also, any politician from Utah being sent to DC is most likely going to be a Mormon so are you saying that Utah shouldn’t get to vote? What about southern states? And Democrats?

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I don’t care what her skin color is. I don’t care if she chooses to be a Mormon. I don’t care if she likes strawberry ice cream better than vanilla.

What I do care about is that she says what she means, does what she says she’ll do, and is one of our conservative representatives that will bring our country back from this edge of darkness we are currently in.

Cherokee on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I guess we shouldn’t ask how you feel about Jews?

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Trollcott.

I’m as guilty as anyone of feeding the trolls, but am working to change that on my part. Tired of seeing every. f*cking. thread. hijacked by these imbeciles.

I’ll not contribute to it any longer.

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

You derail the thread and then you want to bring it back.

Harvard wasted a seat for a good brain.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

She looks fairly clean and articulate, has anyone taken the time to smell her just to make sure?

Bishop on May 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

SNAP!

scalleywag on May 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Seriously though, I hope your sentiments somehow make into the congressional race here in Utah. It would be awesome if Jim Matheson or the Democrat party in general got associated with “Mormon’s are irrational and racist scum” sentiment.

If you don’t have a twitter account then get one and start preaching!

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

Nice try at deflection, Partygirl….I’d recommend you just runaway as your next best defense. You don’t like being called out on logic, so let’s try to deflect, eh?

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

What happened to this original post?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

see how easily NP slid in and hijacked the thread..into a race discussion.
Typical..do’t take the bait.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM

What happened to this original post?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Deleted. We can only hope for a ban though..

nobar on May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

What the hell does that even mean?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

What happened to this original post?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I think Humbot was just accurately re-interpreting nonpartisan’s statements.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

What the hell does that even mean?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

That she should have been one for Obama.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Mom must have already served NP his Spaghettios.

kingsjester on May 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I hate nonpartisan.

portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 2:05 PM

She’ll win easy. She lost by 800 votes. The Dem had Obama at the top of the ticket driving turnout. Not gonna happen in a mid term. Now, can we get Allen West back?

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I tend to agree with your perspective.

Now, can we get Allen West back?

Yes! I hope he would run against El Rubio for Senate.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I see the zealot Palinista’s got a beef with Mia.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Uh considering how “Bull” Connor and the DEMOCRATS treated Blacks…OH WAIT, that’s very different and doesn’t count, my bad…..

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Carney says that happened a long time ago, as did ALL Democrat scandals. If it didn’t happen today, water under the bridge.

Wow. My internet keeps getting stuck or attacked by servebeer today.

Fallon on May 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I’ve actually heard this quite a bit from conservative circles, like people talking about her spendthrift ways as mayor. I don’t know much about it, but I suppose that’s what Google is for.

mintycrys on May 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM

I see the zealot Palinista’s got a beef with Mia.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Exxx-actly.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Take a hint from Sanford’s campaign.

Attach Matheson to Pelosi like Colbert-Busch was attached to Pelosi.

22044 on May 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Nonpartisan, a true religious bigot! Guess what, sweetiepie: Harry Reid is Mormon. In fact, a local church leader in the Washington DC Area. About the only thing I find about that man that I can condone (though it still baffles me how a man like Harry Reid can be LDS). Is he also not very smart because he is LDS? I agree he’s not smart… is it because he is LDS?

Romney: Valedictorian at BYU. Dual JD/MBA from Harvard. You know, your claimed alma mater. Is HE stupid for being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? You know darn well that Romney is far more intelligent than Obama can hope to be.

Actually, I find it reassuring that you are a religious bigot against Mormons. Judging by your clear intellectual heft, it’s practically an endorsement of the faith.

Vanceone on May 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM

She’s running in Utah you moron. Even most the Democrats are Mormon. Including Jim Matheson, her Democrat rival.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Mormonism is the dominant religion in Utah, and the well-respected conservative Senator Orrin Hatch is also a Mormon. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada is also a Mormon, although he and Hatch are on opposite sides of most issues, to put it mildly. So let’s put Mia Love’s religion out of this debate, and concentrate on what she says and does.

Steve Z on May 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I must have missed the part where we changed the Constitution so that one’s faith comes under question by complete strangers.

But while on the subject let’s talk about how Democrats treated blacks. It wasn’t the GOP standing the the doorways of schools being forceably integrated. It wasn’t the GOP who tried and de-rail the voting rights act of 1964. It wasn’t the GOP that has created a perpetual underclass of uneducated and unproductive blacks whose only societal value is every couple years at the ballot box.

Happy Nomad on May 20, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Alright, it took some creative seraching (you won’t find it on C-SPAN with a search of “Mia Love”, but here is her 2012 convention speach, as covered by C-SPAN…

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/602207803

ITguy on May 20, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I guess it’s time for afternoon cartoons, Nonpartisan seems to have scarpered off.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Palin zealots are freaks.

John the Libertarian on May 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Palin zealots are freaks.

John the Libertarian on May 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM

No we’re not, as compared say to:

1) Bluegill’s wildly irrational hatred of all things “Palin”; or
2) Compared to your average Paul-bot…..

A few border on idolatry, but overall we’re a fairly normal lot….now to sound like Nonpartisan, this isn’t a thread about Palin, but a thread about Mia Love.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM

I still can’t believe she lost last time.

She was winning.

98ZJUSMC on May 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Palin zealots are freaks.

John the Libertarian on May 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Not freaks, just zealots.

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

If race is the primary reason you “have to question her” you are unquestionably a bigot. That is without question.

That’s too bad. With a name like nonpartisan I had hope for you as a moderate. But you’re the same type of bigot found among TP extremists. The stench is the same.

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM

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