CNN op-ed: We might not be able to handle the truth on Fast & Furious, so let’s not be “nosy”

posted at 8:46 pm on June 26, 2012 by Allahpundit

When I started reading this, I thought it was building to the argument that of course we should trust that our saintly president hasn’t done anything shady and quit bugging him with pesky document requests already. Nope. What this guy’s actually arguing is that it’s all too likely that Obama or Holder or someone in the food chain has done something shady but that they probably had a well-meaning, pro-American reason to do so, so maybe we should just kind of go easy, huh?

Two possible explanations. One: LZ Granderson is really, seriously advocating carte blanche without oversight for whichever side is in power. (He’s willing to let Oliver North slide on his Iran-Contra dealings too.) Two: LZ Granderson is basically trolling his own site for traffic. In that case, here you go, buddy. Here’s your link.

Heads should roll because of the Fast and Furious debacle. We don’t need every detail of that operation to be made public in order for that to happen…

Project Wide Receiver and Project Road Runner — the earlier versions of Fast and Furious under President Bush — were executed with the hope that they will do more good than harm. Hardly anyone in the public knows the finer points of these programs…

By allowing guns to infiltrate Mexico’s drug cartel, we thought we could trace them up the ladder to the leaders. Take off the head and the body dies. As for the innocent people who lost their lives? Collateral damage. That’s the uncomfortable backstory to this scandal. And there are likely other operations like it in our nation’s history that we don’t even have a clue about.

And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.

I thought the whole point of Issa’s document request was that we don’t know for sure what the purpose of Fast & Furious was — Issa himself apparently doesn’t think it was chiefly about breaking up cartels — and that, once we find out, then we’ll have a better sense of which heads should roll. I’m actually curious: Who does Granderson want fired? Is he ready to cut Holder loose on the mere suspicion that the White House has covered something up? If so, he’s actually a step past Issa on that. Even if the White House isn’t guilty of anything, wouldn’t you want to see the documents to know how an idea as insane as gunwalking got greenlit in the first place, in case it offers some insight on how to reform the DOJ institutionally? Transparency’s pretty useful to good government. You’d think a guy who touts his award for “journalist of the year” at the top of his column would understand that.

Incidentally, White House and DOJ lawyers met today with Boehner’s aides and offered to produce 30 or so documents in return for the contempt charge against Holder being dropped. No deal. And do note: There is indeed at least one Democrat who’s planning to vote for contempt on Thursday.


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Heads should roll because of the Fast and Furious debacle.

Preferably some low-level ignorant in the DOJ whose main duty is fetching coffee for his supervisor.

Bishop on June 26, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Anybody remember back when speaking truth to power was patriotic?

Drained Brain on June 26, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Take off the head and the body dies. As for the innocent people who lost their lives? Collateral damage. That’s the uncomfortable backstory to this scandal.

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Bishop on June 26, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Is anybody surprised that CNN is swirling the bowl faster than any other major legacy media outlet..?

d1carter on June 26, 2012 at 8:50 PM

By allowing guns to infiltrate Mexico’s drug cartel,

Huh? WTFF? THey make it sound as if the guns are spies we sent that can communicate with us. How much more twisting and pervesrion of the language is even possible?

we thought we could trace them up the ladder to the leaders.

Yeah … the leaders tend to be the ones actually shooting. Right. Pull my finger.

This tool is too stupid to be seen or heard in public.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 26, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Yeah I heard this earlier in the week. Someone was doing their best Jack Nicholson impression from a Few Good Men.

Is that what CNN doesn’t want investigated? Jack Nicholson is running guns into Mexico? SNARK.

Dr Evil on June 26, 2012 at 8:52 PM

This guy is another kook CNN contributor…

d1carter on June 26, 2012 at 8:52 PM

This country is done.

EnochCain on June 26, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Meh, give them time. This story is only one week old to them. The rest of us have been following it for 17 months now.

the new aesthetic on June 26, 2012 at 8:53 PM

And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.

So the villain of A Few Good Men is now wise and sage, and we should listen to him.

Kay.

F**king idiot.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2012 at 8:53 PM

I think the Terry family might be opposed to “going easy” on Holder.

fogw on June 26, 2012 at 8:53 PM

I thought the whole point of Issa’s document request was that we don’t know for sure what the purpose of Fast & Furious was — Issa himself apparently doesn’t think it was chiefly about breaking up cartels — and that, once we find out, then we’ll have a better sense of which heads should roll. I’m actually curious: Who does Granderson want fired? Is he ready to cut Holder loose on the mere suspicion that the White House has covered something up? If so, he’s actually a step past Issa on that. Even if the White House isn’t guilty of anything, wouldn’t you want to see the documents to know how an idea as insane as gunwalking got greenlit in the first place, in case it offers some insight on how to reform the DOJ institutionally?

My bet is Holder will be held in contempt of Congress and I agree that he should be, and is, based upon his own behavior.

I also think that we do need to see (and certainly want to) “the documents to know how an idea as insane as gunwalking got greenlit in the first place…”

HOlder AND OBAMA, who is OBVIOUSLY COMPLICIT as he is ALSO OBVIOUSLY LYING ABOUT “NOT BEING AWARE” AND ALL THAT…are both insults to the offices they hold and if I was in Congress, I’d be asking for Obama to be impeached.

Lourdes on June 26, 2012 at 8:54 PM

The fact that LZ is both gay and black has not, in any way I’m sure, biased his request that we not be too nosy here and investigate a democrat president.

keep the change on June 26, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Their fifty two thousand viewers agree.

CNN, the place to snooze.

AllahsNippleHair on June 26, 2012 at 8:55 PM

…And do note: There is indeed at least one Democrat who’s planning to vote for contempt on Thursday.

So the vote for contempt will be bipartisan! Excellent.

slickwillie2001 on June 26, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Is anybody surprised that CNN is swirling the bowl faster than any other major legacy media outlet..?

d1carter on June 26, 2012 at 8:50 PM

MSNBC ain’t doing much better..:)

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/q2-2012-ratings-msnbc-down-double-digits_b134879

idesign on June 26, 2012 at 8:55 PM

CNN op-ed: We might not be able to handle the truth on Fast & Furious, so let’s not be “nosy”

F*@k You & F*@k Off CNN…!!!!

KOOLAID2 on June 26, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Enough already with the”Bush” started it meme… It wasn’t anything like the debacle Fast and Furious was/is. Nice try MSM..

sandee on June 26, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Even if the White House isn’t guilty of anything, wouldn’t you want to see the documents to know how an idea as insane as gunwalking got greenlit in the first place, in case it offers some insight on how to reform the DOJ institutionally?

I want to know why and then I want to make sure it doesn’t happen again..

As one of our trolls said last week..
“Why pursue this anymore…”
Or something along that line.

There are still today, many guns in the hands of people that should have never had them..

Are they all in Mexico?
So do I use the statement from another troll..

“Who cares…there Mexicans”

Electrongod on June 26, 2012 at 8:57 PM

ENDS.

JUSTIFY.

MEANS.

Talon on June 26, 2012 at 8:57 PM

As for the innocent people who lost their lives? Collateral damage. That’s the uncomfortable backstory to this scandal.

Iraqi prisoners being made to pose for humiliating pictures? WAR CRIME.

300 Mexican citizens murdered with guns our government gave to the murderers? “Uncomfortable backstory”.

I loathe these people. Not hate…loathe.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2012 at 8:57 PM

This could be straight out of The Onion.

Absolutely Hilarious!

Tim_CA on June 26, 2012 at 8:59 PM

I believe that there’s an ongoing coverup. Once the democratics realized that the scam was up and Congress was onto them, they knew that the death toll would be leading the news if it got out. That was unacceptable, so they are covering up the ever-increasing death toll in Mexico, and the connection to new crimes IN THE USA since February of last year.

This has to be so, because the guns are out of our control, still being used in Mexico, and we have anecdotal evidence of them leaking back into the USA. Those leakers are almost certainly being used in crimes. Why aren’t those crimes in the news?

Have the SNs of all F&F weapons been made available to all state and local police departments in our country?

slickwillie2001 on June 26, 2012 at 9:00 PM

because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.

We can’t handle knowing that a commander and his minions conspired to conceal the murder of one of their own?

Uh….maybe a different example would have been better.

Bishop on June 26, 2012 at 9:00 PM

many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.

I apologize if anyone else has said this, but

YES WE CAN!

Key West Reader on June 26, 2012 at 9:00 PM

It almost reads as a parody by Frank J. Fleming.

aquaviva on June 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM

People in doctor’s offices and airports all over America are right now looking around and saying, “Can we turn to a different channel please?”

Marxism is for dummies on June 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Every document needs to be produced. Holder’s failure to produce any document should be taken to court asap.

GaltBlvnAtty on June 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM

I got more the sense of another leftist pseudo-intellectual elitist wannabe, looking down her nose at all you little nobodies and telling you to move on cause there’s nothing here you should worry your pretty little heads about.

I couldn’t help myself and reminded her that she is talking about the Murder of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and A U.S. ICE Agent and some 300+ Mexican nationals that are being Covered Up. Of course this assumes that these numbers have not gone up recently, which is highly unlikely.

God Bless America!

paratisi on June 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM

In the First Amendment, the Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to fulfill its essential role in our democracy. The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. The Government’s power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government. The press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government.

I guess this no longer applies….

cynccook on June 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Oh I want the truth.. Not a problem here.. Let’s have it..

Iraqi prisoners being made to pose for humiliating pictures? WAR CRIME.

300 Mexican citizens murdered with guns our government gave to the murderers? “Uncomfortable backstory”.

I loathe these people. Not hate…loathe.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Pathetic isn’t it…. Politicians are without a doubt rapidly becoming one of the most ignorant bunch on the planet…
They must believe that Hear no evil, see no evil will get them by…

They are idiots..

RockyJ. on June 26, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Can you handle the truth that Obama and Holder had hundreds, maybe thousands, of Mexican civilians murdered? That Obama and Holder attack Mexico with a slow motion 9/11?

VorDaj on June 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Meh, give them time. This story is only one week old to them. The rest of us have been following it for 17 months now.

the new aesthetic on June 26, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Nailed it.

I vote for “trolling for hits”.

Mord on June 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Take off the head and the body dies. As for the innocent people who lost their lives? Collateral damage. That’s the uncomfortable backstory to this scandal.

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Bishop on June 26, 2012 at 8:50 PM

DITTO.
DITTO.
DITTO.
DITTO.
DITTO.
DITTO.
DITTO.

Lourdes on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Think about it: We have allowed weapons to cross the Mexican border and into the hands of criminals for years. Many of these weapons were involved in killing innocent Mexicans. There’s nothing very admirable about that. But the truth is, it’s very American.

Uhh, no. They’ve been crossing the border by way of criminals, in violation of Federal laws, not with the direct assistance of the United States Government.

By allowing guns to infiltrate Mexico’s drug cartel, we thought we could trace them up the ladder to the leaders. Take off the head and the body dies.

That might have been true under Wide Receiver, when the guns were tracked by GPS (as long as it worked) and the Mexican authorities were in the loop and assisting in the sting. Fast and Furious featured neither of those two procedures.

As for the innocent people who lost their lives? Collateral damage. That’s the uncomfortable backstory to this scandal. And there are likely other operations like it in our nation’s history that we don’t even have a clue about.

True as far as it goes. We really don’t know how many innocent civilians died in occupied countries in World War Two as a result of sabotage operations by the OSS, British SOE, or various resistance groups. (When you derail a troop train, there’s no guarantee there aren’t civilians aboard; look up “comfort women”.)

But technically speaking, that only holds as a true parallel if you are trying to inflict damage on the enemy. Somehow, arming the enemy in the hope of increasing their kill-potential (or at least making it look like their kill potential is our fault) isn’t exactly the same thing. In fact, legally speaking, it’s not only not even close, it isn’t even in the same time zone.

And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.

I’m wondering if he’d be so sure we couldn’t handle it if Obama and Holder were Republicans. My guess would be, no.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of LZ Granderson.

Yes, and my opinion is that LZ Granderson is at least highly partisan, and trying to provide cover for a President, and a party, he approves of, in pursuit of a policy (gun control) he also approves of. (I suspect he wouldn’t be working at CNN if either of these assumptions is invalid.)

I will, however, keep my opinion of his intellectual honesty- and his IQ- to myself.

clear ether

eon

eon on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The guy is an idiot and nobody cares about what he thinks.

WisCon on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Does anyone seriously believe that Holder came up with this on his own and did it without even consulting Odrama? If so, I’ve got a bridge in upper Alaska I’ll sell you REAL CHEAP!

UnderstandingisPower on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM

If Obama was president during Watergate and had lied about knowledge of it, the press would’ve looked the other way.

midgeorgian on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM

And do note: There is indeed at least one Democrat who’s planning to vote for contempt on Thursday.

Good for Matheson.

Bitter Clinger on June 26, 2012 at 9:07 PM

many of us won’t be able to handle the truth

Yes, I recall Senator Sam Ervin saying that during the Watergate hearings, didn’t he.

/s

Wethal on June 26, 2012 at 9:07 PM

He’s going to feign illness and step down.

/Too many chili dogs I suppose

Pardon my pun about the dogs

Key West Reader on June 26, 2012 at 9:07 PM

If so, I’ve got a bridge in upper Alaska I’ll sell you REAL CHEAP!

UnderstandingisPower on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM

It leads to nowhere..
Not buying it..
:)

Electrongod on June 26, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Hahahaha…I’m picturing NancyBoy Holder giving the speech:

“Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s going to do it…you? You, Lieutenant Weinberg?!”

Jaibones on June 26, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Bob ain’t happy about it.

novaculus on June 26, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Holder in 1995: ‘Really brainwash people’ to be anti-gun
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/18/holder-in-1995-really-brainwash-people-to-be-anti-gun/

He makes those comments scarcely 6mos after being acting Atty Gen. under Janet Reno, during the course of the investigation of the Waco outrage.

It’s absolutely zero stretch at all to believe the entire plan of Fat & Furious was to foment violence and outrage and serve as predicate for undermining our second amendment rights. It partially worked anyway, with the ATF using it as justification for Long Gun registration in our border states, promulgating a regulation – no congressional oversight – requiring FFLs in CA, AZ, NM and TX to report anyone buying more than one rifle at a time. And to report what they bought.

rayra on June 26, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Take off the head and the body dies. As for the innocent people who lost their lives? Collateral damage.

Wow.

Pretty sick.

tetriskid on June 26, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Maybe they wanted to see one cartel armed better to keep another cartel in check so the latter cartel doesn’t pose as much of a threat to the government.

Fezzik on June 26, 2012 at 9:10 PM

“Under the Radar”.

VorDaj on June 26, 2012 at 9:10 PM

The guy is an idiot and nobody cares about what he thinks.

WisCon on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban

He’s premptively throwing himself under the bus. Has any reporter EVER done anything like this before? Do they take an oath or something? Who does he work for? Oh, Ted Turner and Jane Fonda.

I think it’s chilling.

Key West Reader on June 26, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Not hate…loathe.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2012 at 8:57 PM

I hate ‘em.

Jaibones on June 26, 2012 at 9:10 PM

If Obama was president during Watergate and had lied about knowledge of it, the press would’ve looked the other way.

midgeorgian on June 26, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Watergate was child’s play compared to what this insane, America-hating administration has done. There is not even any comparison. And the press ignored that much of what happened during Watergate had been standard practice by dems for decades.

There is nothing in American history that even compares to the total lawlessness and anti-Americanism that is exhibited over and over by this criminal administration.

Barky nver wanted anything but to bring pain and destruction to America and that is all he has done. Every single thing he’s said or done since sliming into an office he was never eligible to hold has been oriented about the downfall and destruction of our Republic. It’s just a shame that no one has had the guts to remove him. Our nation will likely not be able to recover from the irreparable damage.

The worst part is that all of this was entirely predictable at the start – and was predicted. But, America, in a psychotic break brought on by the credit crisis in 2008 decided to end it all with the ultimate act of atonement (in their fevered minds) by bringing this nation to an end: Suicide by Indonesian. Well, this is how it looks being carried out.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 26, 2012 at 9:12 PM

By allowing guns to infiltrate Mexico’s drug cartel, we thought we could trace them up the ladder to the leaders. Take off the head and the body dies. As for the innocent people who lost their lives? Collateral damage.

I wonder if LZ would like to volunteer to be ‘collateral damage’.

As for locating ‘the leaders’, don’t we already know who heads the drug cartels?

Or is LZ also unaware of that.

Just another liberal who says “So what! I’m comfortable in my IGNORANCE!”

GarandFan on June 26, 2012 at 9:14 PM

By allowing guns to infiltrate Mexico’s drug cartel, we thought we could trace them up the ladder to the leaders.

Exactly how, Mr. Oh-So-Smart CNN Commentator? More and more, Fast And Furious sounds like an Underwear Gnome plan for law enforcement:

Step 1: Give guns to Mexican drug cartels
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Arrest the Drug Kingpins revealed in Step 2!

Socratease on June 26, 2012 at 9:14 PM

many of us won’t be able to handle the truth

I suspect this is true of many obamabots like yourself, but for the rest of America, not so much.

Fighton03 on June 26, 2012 at 9:15 PM

So TFGRP had a few thousand American citizens incarcerated without trial or allowing them access to counsel, you rubes don’t understand that he probably had very good reasons for doing so, national security of whatever.

So sit down, shut your hick yaps, and let the adults handle things. You homophobes.

Bishop on June 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM

I don’t know but I bet Hollywood is thinking that Obama movie they are making just got a whole lot more interesting.

magicbeans on June 26, 2012 at 9:18 PM

“Project Road Runner”?

Dave in Pa on June 26, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Fox News just mentioned that late negotiations between Holder and Issa et al have failed, and that the negotiations revolved around Holder’s final offer of only THIRTY PAGES of additional documents.

I assume that would come with Holder’s ridiculous terms that once handed over, they would close the case, which is going to be unacceptable as it should be to Issa.

Next time I get in trouble with the law I have to remember that subpoenas are negotiable.

slickwillie2001 on June 26, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Holy crap. The MSM is truly nothing more than Pravda-Western Edition.

29Victor on June 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM

“Even if the White House isn’t guilty of anything, wouldn’t you want to see the documents to know how an idea as insane as gunwalking got greenlit in the first place…”

Who authorized it…?

Seven Percent Solution on June 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM

How much do you still need to uncover? You already have plenty of the work done for you you idiot, do a little work and win a prize! I will help you start, replace Obama and Holder with Bush and Gonzalez, write your story then at the end go back Go back and replace Obama and Holder!

bluemarlin on June 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Holy crap. The MSM is truly nothing more than Pravda-Western Edition.

29Victor on June 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Yup…

sandee on June 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM

I don’t know but I bet Hollywood is thinking that Obama movie they are making just got a whole lot more interesting.

magicbeans on June 26, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Release to DVD only..
With alternate ending…

Hanging..
Life behind bars..

or my favorite.

Waterboarded.

Electrongod on June 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Yet again and again and…….Pigment is all that matters.

All Hail the Messiah!

dmann on June 26, 2012 at 9:23 PM

bluemarlin on June 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Are you serious?

Electrongod on June 26, 2012 at 9:23 PM

And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth.

Why do liberal journalist always think most Americans live in a Hollywood world of fantasy? Are they really this stupid?

Rovin on June 26, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Civilian deaths occur in every war (in other words, “inevitable”), but they result in these cases from the nature of the terrorists, who hide among civilians while conducting their war against us.

Above is a portion of another post (Jimmah Cartah accuses JugEars of poor behavior by using drones on terrorists).

Seems the lefties can’t figure which case to make…

socalcon on June 26, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Rovin: yep!

socalcon on June 26, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Kids, this is worth watching again.
Put mittens on your hands so you don’t pull out your hair and don’t yell you will scare the pets and children.

Anyone think Issa’s questions were too difficult to unnerstand?

arnold ziffel on June 26, 2012 at 9:25 PM

We need to stop calling them Democrats, or Progressives or liberals and just call them what they are — Royalists. They are the intellectual descendents of those who never wanted to be free of monarchy.

29Victor on June 26, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Backstory?

I’m speechless.

Curtiss on June 26, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Thursday’s shaping up to be a banner day indeed!

FlatFoot on June 26, 2012 at 9:27 PM

The media is finally being forced to cover this, and the only thing they can muster is “cover” for Obama and Holder.

Truly shameful.

BruthaMan on June 26, 2012 at 9:29 PM

HeII of a spin right there. Could someone correct me if I’m wrong. Deaths aside for just a moment. Weren’t the guns lacking tracing device tags, i.e., GPS ?

Bmore on June 26, 2012 at 9:30 PM

I guess Woodward and Bernstein have the week off…

/

Seven Percent Solution on June 26, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Enough already with the”Bush” started it meme… It wasn’t anything like the debacle Fast and Furious was/is. Nice try MSM..

sandee on June 26, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Wide Receive Fast & Furious
Coordinated with Mexico
Tracked guns with tracking devices

dont taze me bro on June 26, 2012 at 9:31 PM

There’s too much spinning going on here.

Basic damage control would have involved saying yes we ran these guns deliberately, here was our plan, we totally messed up but we meant well, mea culpa.

That model doesn’t apply here because of there is likely a cover-up.

It actually starts to smell a lot like Waco.

CorporatePiggy on June 26, 2012 at 9:31 PM

And I suppose these same people thought it would have been much better to keep water-boarding and enhanced interrogation methods a secret because ‘we can’t handle the truth’. Meanwhile, celebrating 40-year anniversary of Watergate. Sorry, the truth cuts both ways and the public deserves to know the full scale of F&F and who was responsible for this debacle and their motives…no matter how sordid or how noble.

HoosierStateofMind on June 26, 2012 at 9:32 PM

I really didn’t need to know about the office of Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist being pilfered. After all, it was done to prevent security leaks. National interest stuff you know.

Reggie1971 on June 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM

dont taze me bro on June 26, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Wai..wa?

Bishop on June 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Wide Receive Fast & Furious
Coordinated with Mexico
Tracked guns with tracking devices

dont taze me bro on June 26, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Operation Wide Receiver actually tracked the weapons. Mexican authorities were notified of the program and kept informed. Minimal number of guns involved. Ultimately program was discontinued. No Border Agents were killed. No press conferences with U.S. Secretary of State and Mexican President condemning America and our guns. No outright attack on our 2nd Amendment rights.

Big difference from Fast & Furious.

HoosierStateofMind on June 26, 2012 at 9:36 PM

they are hiding something. both parties on this you can tell. It will seriously jake up both parties. and they kinda deserve it after what they did to the country when people gave them power.

boogaleesnots on June 26, 2012 at 9:37 PM

America needs to know the truth about the treasonous thug and his administration.

SouthernGent on June 26, 2012 at 9:38 PM

We may not be able to handle the truth but what in God’s name does Holder have to do with the truth?

Sherman1864 on June 26, 2012 at 9:44 PM

So does this LZ Granderson want to go to Mexico and tell them it was just nothing and they don’t need to be nosy about the details and square things away with them … never to be heard from again?

stukinIL4now on June 26, 2012 at 9:44 PM

And maybe it’s better for us not to be so nosy, not to know everything because, to paraphrase the famous line from the movie “A Few Good Men,” many of us won’t be able to handle the truth

WTF is that? Sure, the people of this country can’t handle the truth..lets sweep it under the carpet and pretend everything is A Okay and keep the sheep blind to protect your idol.- Effing IDIOT- You cant protect your emperor forever..do your job.. heh..what a joke..the media.

Well guess what Granderson-
This country needs some damn truth-open the flood gate! The truth is ugly and people need a damn wake up call.
Thugs are running this country..and we arent stopping until it is exposed..
I smell your fear loser pig.

They massacred people -eh just some collateral damage to achieve their goal..murder’s. As they deny us as a country and citizens safety and security every effing day. They just added to it..write a piece on that- include Hezbollah also working with the Cartels..and were those guns are now..with murderous animals and terrorists. We gave them! And beside our officers..Mexicans..humans were slaughtered.. cant hide O and Crews evil. Sorry bud.

bazil9 on June 26, 2012 at 9:45 PM

The President insists on a coverup.

News2Use on June 26, 2012 at 9:48 PM

unstinkingbelievable….if this was under a gop president…there would be 24/7 outrage….

pathetic

cmsinaz on June 26, 2012 at 9:49 PM

bluemarlin on June 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Are you serious?

Electrongod on June 26, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Not really, just saying that is the only way MSM would dig into the story, if he believes Bush did it. Then go back take Bush out and replace with Obama

bluemarlin on June 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM

And with that they lost their last three viewers.

Axion on June 26, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Something shiny..Hey- I support the Dream Act..
That cancels out some dead Mexicans right? -The Won.

bazil9 on June 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM

HoosierStateofMind on June 26, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Ya, my post was epic fail. I was trying to create a table comparing and contrasting the two operations. Not so easy at Hot Air as it turns out. LOL.

dont taze me bro on June 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM

What comes after loathe?
Abhor I would imagine.

I ABHOR everthing about this administration.

Yeah, that works.

D-fusit on June 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Again the Time line…2009 was a year of Justice trying to justify new gun control on the border because US sourced guns were said to be a big problem in Mexican drug violence. The problem for Justice is their numbers were bogus and Congress was opposed to any new schemes…a few months later, and completely secretly, a new scheme was created to flood Mexico drug lords with US sourced guns but, unlike the Bush programs, no system to track the weapons was set up and Mexico was not involved…

So the question…what is the purpose of a program that did nothing but flood Mexico with US sourced guns? To me and a lot of others, that purpose was simple, insure gun scenes are actually littered with guns sourced from the USA, followed by demands for more gun control.

I believe the papers being denied have the proof…A scheme to create more gun control that resulted in actual dead folk would be terminal for any administration involved. That is what a lot of us believe is happening…

Why else flood un-traced guns into Mexico? Why indeed…

JIMV on June 26, 2012 at 9:56 PM

D-fusit on June 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM

I give it the triple hitter- hate,loath, and abhor.

bazil9 on June 26, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Oh I forgot, add most all of the legacy MSM in with the admin also.

D-fusit on June 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM

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