Report: House contempt vote on Holder scheduled for, er … Thursday
posted at 7:21 pm on June 25, 2012 by Allahpundit
And a good thing too. I always worry that we’ll run out of content later in the week as news slows down. Right now, on Thursday, all I’ve got penciled in as possible blog material is … the biggest Supreme Court case of our lifetime.
Alternate headline: “House GOP leadership really, really doesn’t want voters paying attention to these Fast & Furious hearings.”
The House is scheduled to vote on recommendations that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. be held in contempt of Congress on Thursday, according to House Republican aides.
Republican leaders plan to bring the issue to the floor on Thursday, meaning lawmakers likely will vote on contempt charges on the same day that the U.S. Supreme Court is slated to announce its ruling on the constitutionality of the 2010 health-care reform law.
The timing likely deprives advocates for contempt charges of the big headlines they might have received if the vote were held another day this week.
Remember, they’re supposed to be playing a game of chicken with Obama and Holder designed to get them to cough up the documents that Issa wants. The more political heat they apply, the more likely it is that O will blink. The last thing you’d want to do in that case is use your nuclear weapon on a day when the media will be so consumed with covering another story that the blast will hardly be felt. By scheduling it this way, Boehner and Cantor are essentially choosing to minimize the pressure on the White House, signaling that they’d rather wrist-slap Holder by sanctioning him at a moment when no one’s paying attention than turn this into a true power struggle in the middle of the campaign. Presumably, once the contempt vote is held, the next step will be for the House to file a civil suit requesting that the documents be produced and then that’ll get bogged down in legal procedure and slip quietly off the radar screen before election day. Or at least, that’s how it looks. What am I missing here?
Maybe the GOP should settle for a compromise: Drop the broader document demand in return for Holder producing just one key e-mail — which he’s already admitted isn’t covered by executive privilege.
A single internal Department of Justice email could be the smoking-gun document in the Operation Fast and Furious scandal — if it turns out to contain what congressional investigators have said it does.
The document would establish that wiretap application documents show senior DOJ officials knew about and approved the gunwalking tactic in Fast and Furious. This is the opposite of what Attorney General Eric Holder and House oversight committee ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings have claimed…
Ken Melson, now the former acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, purportedly sent that email to several DOJ leaders in March 2011. According to Grassley, Melson wrote that he had reviewed the wiretap applications — the same documents Cummings and Holder claim do not show senior DOJ officials knew of or approved gunwalking tactics in Fast and Furious.
Via Mediaite, here’s Brit Hume yesterday on “Fox News Sunday” identifying the likely cause of Boehner’s apprehension.
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Nunes knows something. It sounded like he was luring Miller into a trap.
Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM
“This is the story about Billy Joe and Bobbie Sue..
Two IRS agents with nothin better to do….
ToddPA on May 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM
McDermott – I’m a little drunk…and I’m covering for Il Duce’s Tax Brownshirts…
The IRS can’t access your medical files…correct? – McDermott
Yeah…- Miller
It is not a fascist takeover of the healthcare system…and you guys rock but people hate you anyway or something…How can we help you do your job better…- McDermott
Nunes summary…Are you aware that we know your a lying sack of sh*T
Asks about WH and Treasury contacts.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Citizens United is really a craw-sticker for the dems.
So that makes all of this fine and dandy.
tru2tx on May 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM
I went to the gym this morning. To be fair, the main TV monitors around the room had CNN covering the IRS hearings on. So, I was in the second row of machines with, maybe, 10-12 women on machines in the row in front of me, each with it’s own monitor. Were any of the women watching the IRS hearings? Nope. Mostly, they were watching HGTV on their sets, followed by the Today Show and I think one was watching a Lifetime or Bravo movie. I’m a woman. I’m not picking on them but this is what they really were watching. #Oblivious. <— Isn't that how the cool kids say it?
Fallon on May 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Gop are playing politics
Dem talking point
Miller equal holder
cmsinaz on May 17, 2013 at 10:23 AM
D. Richard Neal….enters Bloomberg article into record showing that indeed Democratic organizations were also targeted.
Oh again Citizens United…hiding donors.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Nunes any contact with OFA, Obama Campaign, Propublica
Will you turn over your phone records? – Nunes
I have to chat with my lawyer – Miller
Nunes nails Miller on his Shultz defense…Why did you resign?
Buck stops at my desk – Miller
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Liberals/Miller:
- I am under no obligation to divulge facts, crimes, scandals, or offer any information up freely that is not specifically, technically, iron-clad asked for.
- Yes, there wre crimes perpetrated, yes I withheld evidence, but I was within my right to do so because the Committee faild to ask the right questions!
Arrest this @hole already!
*** Democrats at the very start said ‘let’s not make this political’, then McDermot switched the whole hearing to Obamacare, asking Miller – who has been so honest so far – to confrim having this same IRS that abused its power so much in this scandal to take over & run the Obamacare piece as well would not be a problem.
Good grief!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 10:25 AM
I SERIOUSLY believe it is a mental condition, possibly a mental defect.
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Well the misdirection is working. GOP Ways and Means chairman says no special prosecutor needed on the IRS scandal. Meanwhile when is the last time we heard anything from DC about Benghazi?
bgibbs1000 on May 17, 2013 at 10:27 AM
To be fair, no sane person wants to spend their life being aggravated at the government. And you’ve got to have a life outside of following politics. Unless you’re a public servant which, by the way, is the most ironic job description ever coined.
Fenris on May 17, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Good grief. Every single leftist Democrat on the committee questioning the IRS today are pointing to a Bush appointee and going on diatribes against the Citizens United ruling before they ask any substantive questions. And I’m being generous when I use the word “substantive.”
How stupid do you have to be to continually vote for these partisan hacks? They make an absolute mockery of our republican form of government and are unfit for office.
Common Sense Floridian on May 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM
Webster’s – Word of the day Litmus Test
Did the IRS use one? – Neal
No – Miller
This non-profit had been around for 60 years…
Taxpayers should not be intimidated or afraid of the IRS. – Neal
If we could only undo that citizens united decision or something…cause disclosure is important or something…Thanks – Neal
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM
I asked for oral counsel be given – Miller
Oral Counsel…Word of the Day
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:30 AM
It’s the flood of applications that caused this problem…Juan Willimas said the same thing last night on Fox News. Yep, they’ve all got the talking points.
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Is this the first time Sarah Ingram was named? Her name should be mentioned every speech.
Marcus on May 17, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Just like Citizens United, that’s a ridiculous talking point. It doesn’t explain the partisan nature of the targeting and it doesn’t justify all the intrusive questions asked of these Tea Party groups. If the IRS is overwhelmed with applications and paperwork, why unnecessarily(and illegally) add to it with these questionnaires?
Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 10:31 AM
IRS Logic;
There is No Evidence that the man robbed the bank for Monetary Benefit!
jaydee_007 on May 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Home run by Congressman Tiberi.
Common Sense Floridian on May 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Sarah Hall Ingram.
Why isn’t she answering questions, under oath?
Steve Miller is nothing but deflection…he apparently knows nothing…or is so confused as to what his duties were that he was/is useless…or has his instructions to obfuscate (lie) and draw attention away from Team Obama…and this hearing is again showing blatant attempts by Dems to make George Bush the fall guy. Notice the several questions as to when or who…Bush has been mentioned a good number of times.
Flood of applications the problem?
If we had a sensible tax code in the United States, none of this would be an issue.
Government too big to manage?
Axelrod said it this week.
So, let’s make government bigger…that’ll do the trick. Hire a few thousand more IRS agents to pour over every aspect of the lives of those who seek tax-exempt status who are not progressives, community organizers or on the Left…yep…send more people and more money to “solve” a problem that should not have been a problem in the first place.
How about we scale back the federal government to take care of the basics?
In the meantime…this Miller guy is a past master at prevarication. He has his instructions…be the fall guy…
we’llObama will take care of you. Remember all those State Department employees who got fired for Benghazi? All of them are back at work today…no loss of pay or benefits.coldwarrior on May 17, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Tiberi quotes the 2010 questionaire sent to Liberty Township Tea Party…
Q #26 Provide details of your relationship with Bennett Thomas an american citizen who is in this audience today…- Tiberi
Why is his name question # 26? – Tiberi
BOOM!
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:34 AM
thanks for mentioning it d1carter. I thought it was just my computer.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Democrats keep using the word ‘MISTAKE’…Miller called the targeting of American citizens based on their beliefs & the MISLEADING of Congress ‘horrible customer service’…
The CRIMINAL ABUSE of POWER by using the IRS to target Americans, punishing them for daring to NOT agree with the Liberals/Obama administration, the CRIMINAL ACTS of misleading – and in the case of Schulman months ago – PERJURY, were perpetrated. There were no ‘mistakes’ or simple acts of ‘poor customer service’ – CRIMES WERE COMMITTED!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Most asinine quote of the day, “We provided horrible customer service, but it was not politically motivated.”
Oh and the question from a democrat about what does the IRS need to help rid these problems in the future and Miller replied, that more laws and more money to hire more agents would do the trick!
UNFREAKIN’ BELIEVABLE!
texgal on May 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM
With a nice cushy retirement package, to be on the backs of the taxpayers he abused for the rest of his life, of course.
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Abu Ghraib
1) Went on for Weeks
2) When Officials learned of it Criminal Investigations Began
3) Persons involved Charged with Crimes
4) Charges were filed weeks after it was discovered
5) A broad base of Lower Level personnel and Officers were charged
6) Bush learned of it when the Investigation began
7) There was NO Benefit to the Bush Administration from these actions
8) Media insisted Bush and Rumsfeld Knew and Approved of this action.
IRS Targeting TEA Party
1) Went on for Years
2) When Officials learned of it, they lied to Congress
3) Persons involved have been promoted or given NEW Duties
4) No Charges have been filed, MONTHS after it’s been revealed
5) An interim leader, who was leaving anyway, has been Fired
6) Obama learned of it only when the News Reported it
7) Obama’s re-election received a Direct Benefit from these actions
8) Media insists there is no way Obama could possibly have know about this action
jaydee_007 on May 17, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Total talking points = because of Citzen’s ‘Unity’, we focused more clearly on these groups because we expected them to abuse the new freedom. Case closed.
pambi on May 17, 2013 at 10:36 AM
ie. See Immigration
socalcon on May 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM
Attention John Boehner….you asked yesterday who would be going to jail….that should be Mr Miller.
Big Orange on May 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM
What is going on with this site..?
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Miller admits he promoted Lerner’s boss to supervising implementation of HHS
Tiberi was Xcellent!
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM
There IS a time warp.
How did easyt65 comment at 10:26 am on a comment that wasn’t made until 10:29 am?
Neat trick.
tru2tx on May 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Multiple database servers? One got reset to a 3 minute time difference?
oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM
ROFL! I can’t believe I just read “Pass legislation” and “Solve problems” in the exact same sentence.
Since when has passing legislation ever solved problems?
The more legislation that is passed by Democrats/GOP the problems we have!
Varchild on May 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM
CBS feed…
socalcon on May 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Miller isn’t helping himself or the administration. He’s coming across as completely dishonest.
“I answered all questions truthfully”
Wow.
PetecminMd on May 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Soros…Obama…Jarrett…Holder…IRS?
*snicker*
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Reichiert is on him!
Big Orange on May 17, 2013 at 10:40 AM
The fact is that the actions performed by the IRS are already illegal. You don’t need to pass legislation….They are already illegal.
People should already go to jail based on the laws on the books.
If you pass legislation, you just run the risk of disrupting the already existing laws on the books and end up making it more difficult to prosecute the guilty from Obama and on down.
Varchild on May 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM
We had horrible customer service…
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM
I’m stunned by the lack of knowledge or truthfulness of people that are supposed to be in charge of gov’t agencies. STUNNED!!
EA_MAN on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Maybe the island of Guam is tipping…and combined with solar flares it’s effecting this site’s comment thread?
It’s annoying as hell…
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Rep. reichert, you WERE GREAT! You nailed that lieing sack of sh*t!
This scares the hell out of me, is this america, calling the FBI on people soely because they were in the tea party. auditing people, etc.
Danielvito on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 AM
LMAO!!
-Who was responsible?
“Don’t know”
-Who did you ask who was responsible?!
“Nancy ——”
-Who did Nancy tell you was responsible?!
“Can’t remember.”
Was there actually laughter there I heard?
Marcus on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 AM
They won’t let him answer the questions…. waaaaaa
This is just a politically side show
-libs talking head
cmsinaz on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Constantly citing Citizens United ain’t helping, Dems. It makes it sound like you’re ok with what the IRS did as a way of compensating for the Supreme Court decision.
Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Miller is lying his a$$ off.
Nail him Reichert!
You admitted that groups with the name Tea Party were on that list…Didn’t this committee have the right to know that groups were treated differently? – Reichert
So your answer is a non answer…Do you not think Congress has the right to know the information you have? – Reichert
You’re a law enforcement agency for cryin’ out loud…- Reichert
Miller reduced to mumbling…
Who was responsible?
I don’t have that name – Miller
So basically managers are adopting the Sgt. Shultz defense and I know nothink…not even names of low level employees under their management.
Why not?
Reichert is trying to get names…
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM
I’m outta here because I was just told that I needed to slow down because I’m posting too fast.
WTF?!
tru2tx on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Wow, my comment was stamped with a time that is about 6 minutes before I actually posted it.
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM
It’s 5 0′clock somewhere
rsherwd65 on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
“The president told me that I didn’t remember.”
kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Americans getting an education on their Gubmint in the age of Il Duce
It’s called Fascism Folks.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Einstein freaks out!
socalcon on May 17, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Liberals on Twitter and calling into Cspan are really upset at those meanie republicans…cause they’re rude!
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Go Reichert! Like a Bulldog he keeps pounding on Miller, demanding he answer to the question: Does this committee, Congress, deserve to know the information you knew?” Over & Over he refused to answer the question…
Miller supposedly conducted the investigation to find out who targeted Americans, & when Reichert asked him – the man who conducted the investigation – who he discovered was responsible Miller answered, “I DON’T KNOW!”
Mr. Miller…Go to JAIL, go DIRECTLY to JAIL…do NOT pass ‘Go’…do not collect $200…or another d@mn dime from the Aerican people ever again!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 10:49 AM
That is due to a cosmic balancing of the transcendent mystic force of the universe. Every time Obama learns of something weeks or months after he heard about it, millions of tiny voices must be heard minutes before they speak.
Fenris on May 17, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Yep.
Aaaand I got hefty raise(s) too…
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:49 AM
former IRS head Schulman to appear before Congress next Wednesday to testify. When are they going to get Lerner and her peers in there to testify.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Because that’s how they speak in the mess we call the Euro…and those folks are running our media
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
“I don’t remeber…”
mjbrooks3 on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Demmys keep trying to make an argument ‘Appointed By **BUSH**’ –
.. we’re waiting for somebody to chime in “and yet, kept on by O’Barky, when the shennigans really got rolling”
/red meat
/.
CaveatEmpty on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Allah…Ed…anybody?
The comment thread is tipping…kinda like Guam
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
I’ve got it open using chrome. When I use IE it gets wonked.
katy the mean old lady on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
FYI. Being covered on CSPAN2 , on TV.
Not sure about online.
CSPAN Twitter : #IRS
pambi on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Mistake not partisanship
Puhleeze
cmsinaz on May 17, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Oops, getting goofy on chrome too.
katy the mean old lady on May 17, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Looks like ‘altimers’ has struck the IRS bosses younger and younger.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Headline link at top of NBCnews.com:
IRS chief blames ‘foolish mistakes’ for targeting of rightists
“Rightists”? Really?
Common Sense Floridian on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
I’m watching Cspan
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
How long before Miller employs his right against self incrimination. He seemed to be huddled with what looked like some lawyers there for a little.
PetecminMd on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Maybe NK or China hacking WP…nah…Occupy OFA?
*snicker*
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Al Sharpton reminded us this morning that O’CARE is now the law of the land ~ so is Citizen’s United.
Rovin on May 17, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Some D callers on CSPAN, not happy about the ‘I don’t know’ answers.
Even voicing going to Fair Tax route.
pambi on May 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM
There is certainly a lot of tension in the room-Mr. Miller is so trying to cover his bottom side.
hawkman on May 17, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Gee Doggett you might want to check into the activities of Geroge Soros.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Hey Scrumpy….
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Love the “optics” of Dems politicans defending the IRS.
It’s like watching Central Committee members defending the KGB.
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Leprechauns.
katy the mean old lady on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM
What do you think is happening with Benghazi and AP files while attention is focuses on this? NOw that the administration knows what the committee is looking for in the IRS, focus will shift to the AP so the pace of shredding and deleting at the IRS can be increased before the next witnesses can be interviewed.
oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM
What I know about govt. employees is that when this type of crap goes down lots of files go missing.
What the IRS and Obama etal hope is that no one outside the IRS can rebuild the data base the deleted just prior to all this.
That is why all that had this shit happen to the have to make contact with a Republican member of congress.
Stat…..
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Yes Comrade.
Because it’s all just too BIG or somethink…
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Somebody better tell this Miller guy that Holder used up this weeks quota of “i don’t know” yesterday.
Hard to believe how little these two actually “know”
Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Good Morning HAirians!!
Hot day in DC eh?! Lol…
What a bunch of bull that guy Miller is.
I alo am not liking that the dems are pushing the Citizens United ruling from the SC…
Oh back on!!
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Dave Reichert was the Sheriff of King County, Washington.
Mike Morrissey on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM
the planted question…I don’t know….Miller needs to be in jail.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM
No, a man scorned. He was pushed out just prior to the Gatealanche. This could get interesting…
Tsar of Earth on May 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM
It’s a mess Scrumpy
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Roskam…Getting specific about recent disclosures…
Oops! Miller admits he’s got notes
You’ve got notes on that? – Roskam
Sir…Please…I don’t know if I have notes – Miller
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:10 AM
It would be better if this thread as working properly. Hoping you are doing well too :)
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 11:10 AM
I found the architect of the policy. Sarah Hall Ingram made a 2009 speech about just this topic where she outlines her vision of “good governance” on how citizens should act and how the IRS is responsible in finding out if those citizens qualify.
The PDF didn’t transfer perfectly to my blog, so here is both.
This is the person and she is in charge of Obamacare/IRS unit. Not by accident either.
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2013/05/16/who-is-she-the-head-of-the-irs-during-the-scandal-is-in-charge-of-obamacare/
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/ingram__gtown__governance_062309.pdf
here is a key part read the whole speech it is the total outline:
IRS Promotion of Good Governance
Somewhat controversially – at least to some – we have advanced the notion that there is a link between good governance and tax compliance. This concept seems intuitively true to many people. I certainly believe it; it does not seem like a controversial statement to me. But so me have challenged this association of good governance and good compliance – not by pointing out cases in which well governed organizations nonetheless seriously violated the Code and put their tax-exempt status at risk – but simply by saying the point has not been proved.
These critics often note that effective governance arises from intangibles – the dedication and diligence of responsible officers and board members – rather than from the adoption of numerous rules and procedures. These, in their view, can pile up on top of each other to such an extent that they prevent good governance rather than promote it . Knowing who is right in this discussion is not easy.
We have set out to collect some information on the point. We are going to start asking agents, at the end of each examination, to fill out a check sheet about certain of the examined organization’s governance practices and internal controls. The check sheet is intended to identify instances of noncompliance found during the exam, and also to gather information about whether the organization had, and used, any internal controls. For each instance of noncompliance found – excessive compensation, political intervention, inurement, private benefit, material diversion of assets – the agent should ask, who made the decision to do it or to allow it? Was there a policy in place concerning the transition or activity, for example, and if so, was it followed? Let me be clear – we will be gathering objective data, not subjective views. And we will do this over time. As we collect enough information to be interesting, we’ll share it with the community, and everyone can have a go at it.
archer52 on May 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Thread Winner !!!
Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Roskam is nailing Miller on withholding from Congress…
And Miller is on the record admitting he has notes and then denying he has notes.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Now he’s trying to claim that conservative groups weren’t targeted?
PetecminMd on May 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Miller is a complete liar. He claims that they did this because of wanting to be more “efficient”. How can asking for thousands of additional pages of info from conservative groups possibly be MORE efficient? If anything it would be much more time consuming and far less efficient.
Ta111 on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Scumpy,
This thread is being audited by the IRS and if you post to often your get a fine of a deletion.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
So inappropriate is the new illegal?
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM
What’s up with this thread? Its so hinky?!!!!
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
It’s all just bad customer service.
Dem solution: retraining so that next time, the IRS isn’t stupid enough to get caught.
BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Some one check the political donations of J. Russell George.
Might be of note:
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
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