Report: House contempt vote on Holder scheduled for, er … Thursday

posted at 7:21 pm on June 25, 2012 by Allahpundit

And a good thing too. I always worry that we’ll run out of content later in the week as news slows down. Right now, on Thursday, all I’ve got penciled in as possible blog material is … the biggest Supreme Court case of our lifetime.

Alternate headline: “House GOP leadership really, really doesn’t want voters paying attention to these Fast & Furious hearings.”

The House is scheduled to vote on recommendations that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. be held in contempt of Congress on Thursday, according to House Republican aides.

Republican leaders plan to bring the issue to the floor on Thursday, meaning lawmakers likely will vote on contempt charges on the same day that the U.S. Supreme Court is slated to announce its ruling on the constitutionality of the 2010 health-care reform law.

The timing likely deprives advocates for contempt charges of the big headlines they might have received if the vote were held another day this week.

Remember, they’re supposed to be playing a game of chicken with Obama and Holder designed to get them to cough up the documents that Issa wants. The more political heat they apply, the more likely it is that O will blink. The last thing you’d want to do in that case is use your nuclear weapon on a day when the media will be so consumed with covering another story that the blast will hardly be felt. By scheduling it this way, Boehner and Cantor are essentially choosing to minimize the pressure on the White House, signaling that they’d rather wrist-slap Holder by sanctioning him at a moment when no one’s paying attention than turn this into a true power struggle in the middle of the campaign. Presumably, once the contempt vote is held, the next step will be for the House to file a civil suit requesting that the documents be produced and then that’ll get bogged down in legal procedure and slip quietly off the radar screen before election day. Or at least, that’s how it looks. What am I missing here?

Maybe the GOP should settle for a compromise: Drop the broader document demand in return for Holder producing just one key e-mail — which he’s already admitted isn’t covered by executive privilege.

A single internal Department of Justice email could be the smoking-gun document in the Operation Fast and Furious scandal — if it turns out to contain what congressional investigators have said it does.

The document would establish that wiretap application documents show senior DOJ officials knew about and approved the gunwalking tactic in Fast and Furious. This is the opposite of what Attorney General Eric Holder and House oversight committee ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings have claimed…

Ken Melson, now the former acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, purportedly sent that email to several DOJ leaders in March 2011. According to Grassley, Melson wrote that he had reviewed the wiretap applications — the same documents Cummings and Holder claim do not show senior DOJ officials knew of or approved gunwalking tactics in Fast and Furious.

Via Mediaite, here’s Brit Hume yesterday on “Fox News Sunday” identifying the likely cause of Boehner’s apprehension.


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Wow, Thursday to be the best day evah!

the new aesthetic on June 25, 2012 at 7:22 PM

What, with O-Care mandate going down and Erich Meerkat getting a contempt vote in the House…

the new aesthetic on June 25, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Thursday is also my day off! Gonna be glued to HotAir.com.

the new aesthetic on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Time to toss Boner.

RedNewEnglander on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

What am I missing here?

The fact that Boehner and Cantor are cowards?

MadisonConservative on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

SUPAH THURSDAY!

thebrokenrattle on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Prayers ascending for a blowout Thursday…

OmahaConservative on June 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Thursday is also half-off chicken wings at the Breastaurant, Bone Daddy’s!

the new aesthetic on June 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Boehner, we found your balls in the women’s restroom. Please come pick them up.
Do it Wednesday.
We can have a five day celebration.

RovesChins on June 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM

The ultimate Fast and Furious “smoking gun” will be the document stating OBOZO’s approval to proceed with this idiotic scheme as part of a plan to destroy the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

TeaPartyNation on June 25, 2012 at 7:26 PM

The fact that Boehner and Cantor are cowards?

MadisonConservative on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Cut them some slack…they owed Allah a favor and he demanded the best blogging day evah, and he’ll get it Thursday :)

thebrokenrattle on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

He needs to turn over everything they subpoened. No bartering.

Blake on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

AP gives the “glass-half-empty” view. Here’s the half-full view: The republican leadership is giving House Dems. a fig leaf to vote Holder in contempt. It’ll be easier to gain their support when they know the Press will have to focus a lot on Obamacare.

Weight of Glory on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

You know why people don’t respect the Republican brand? Because when faced with un-Constitutional actions by the current administration and in light of all the damning implications of Fast and Furious, the Republicans are still afraid to fight.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

They’re such big pussies.

Mark1971 on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Wow, AP.

No post about how on the tail of O-Care being upheld by a 6-3 vote, Congress actually votes to give Holder the Medal of Freedom for his actions furthering the cause of progressivism in our nation today and voting to have Mitt Romney tortured by John McCain for being too mean to Obama and the Democrats?

WTF?

catmman on June 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Nice job, Boney and Cowardtor, you sissies are more interested in keeping your jobs than protecting the citizens you represent. Pound sand.

Bishop on June 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

AP gives the “glass-half-empty” view. Here’s the half-full view: The republican leadership is giving House Dems. a fig leaf to vote Holder in contempt. It’ll be easier to gain their support when they know the Press will have to focus a lot on Obamacare.

Weight of Glory on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Which House dems are you expecting to hold Holder in contempt?

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Also, this could be the GOP’s way of trying to look like the contempt vote is not political. It’s hard to make the case that the GOP is only going after Holder for a political scalp, when they’ve buried the vote on the day HC is handed down.

Weight of Glory on June 25, 2012 at 7:29 PM

What am I missing here?

The fact that Boehner and Cantor are cowards?

MadisonConservative on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

…what was I thinking…when I was thinking they would find some way to screw this up? *face palm*

KOOLAID2 on June 25, 2012 at 7:30 PM

The fact that Boehner and Cantor are cowards?

MadisonConservative on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

That bad though? If that’s it, why even hold the vote?

Still looking forward to Thursday.

Esthier on June 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I might be coming down with a disease that will make me sick on Thursday. I should go shop for popcorn tonight before I am too ill to get off the couch and away from the TV.

Philly on June 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Which House dems are you expecting to hold Holder in contempt?

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM | Delete

Issa has said at least 30 were willing to vote Holder in contempt. He hasn’t mentioned any names for obvious reasons.

Weight of Glory on June 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Maybe the GOP should settle for a compromise: Drop the broader document demand in return for Holder producing just one key e-mail — which he’s already admitted isn’t covered by executive privilege.

No. Hold Holder accountable.

rbj on June 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Alternate thought: If Obamacare gets struck down in its entirety, it can choose to either cover Con (Law) Obama’s most epic fail ever or a slightly less damning story in F&F. I don’t see how it’s a loser either way. Even if by some insanity Obamacare is upheld, FOX at least will report on the contempt vote anyway.

BKennedy on June 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Maybe the GOP should settle for a compromise

Spoken like a true beta.

disa on June 25, 2012 at 7:34 PM

I don`t see what the problem is. If they can force Obama and Holders hand and get the requested documents, what`s wrong with how they`re doing it. I thought all that mattered was finding out what happened, not political theater. Besides, if O doesn`t blink the vote goes ahead and I`m sure it`ll get some coverage, if not now later on and it goes civil.

ThePrez on June 25, 2012 at 7:34 PM

What am I missing here?

Well for one thing, it does not make the administration look very good to have everything falling apart on them at once. I don’t think people will miss the contempt vote at all..because of the Supreme Court ruling more people will be paying attention to the news that day than usually do anyway.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:34 PM

I think Sotomayor is going to vote to strike it down. Souter, Stevens… both were flops for Republican Presidents. I have a hunch that Ms. Sotomayor may turn out to be much more moderate than Obama expected.

eski502 on June 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Issa has said at least 30 were willing to vote Holder in contempt. He hasn’t mentioned any names for obvious reasons.

Weight of Glory on June 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

We’ll see. Kristen Powers’ giddy grin was enough to tell me the dems realize the Repubs will cave on this.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

I hope HotGas has extra servers to handle the load on Thursday. They can rent them from the liberal sites, because after a few mouth foaming posts they will be on the floor writhing in pain.

pedestrian on June 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

AP gives the “glass-half-empty” view. Here’s the half-full view: The republican leadership is giving House Dems. a fig leaf to vote Holder in contempt. It’ll be easier to gain their support when they know the Press will have to focus a lot on Obamacare.

Weight of Glory on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I would think that this is the reason. Some trade off for votes was made. Let’s see if the bipartisan support turns out in numbers to be worth it.

redeye on June 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Damn I have meetings back to back on Thursday. No playing during the day.

gophergirl on June 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Maybe Boehner is right. You know, I started thinking about Fast and Furious the other day and I completely forgot about how bad the economy was. Our brains can only handle so much.

Mark1971 on June 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

The fact that Boehner and Cantor are cowards?

MadisonConservative on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

That bad though? If that’s it, why even hold the vote?

Still looking forward to Thursday.

Esthier on June 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

This is true. The real point is to get the information they want…not to have some contempt vote that in and of itself does not net them any documents or any evidence.

They are not cowards if their main objective is to get the truth. Now some people would rather see a big show, but in the end that does not gain them a lot.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

I think Sotomayor is going to vote to strike it down. Souter, Stevens… both were flops for Republican Presidents. I have a hunch that Ms. Sotomayor may turn out to be much more moderate than Obama expected.

eski502 on June 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM

We’ll have to wait and see. I doubt it, though.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Philly on June 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I’m closing by myself-so I’m not getting sick…but it would suck if over-slept or something.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM

So I guess Allahpundit will be too busy on Thursday to hit up the bars? LOL!

terryannonline on June 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Maybe Boehner is right. You know, I started thinking about Fast and Furious the other day and I completely forgot about how bad the economy was. Our brains can only handle so much.

Mark1971 on June 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

You’ve got to be joking. The economy sucks. Period. We have months till the election. By then, Fast and Furious will either be dealt with or swept under the rug. Don’t worry. We’ll still have time to talk about how bad the economy is – it’s not gonna get better!

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:39 PM

We’ll see. Kristen Powers’ giddy grin was enough to tell me the dems realize the Repubs will cave on this.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM

What exactly is caving? Is it more important to get the documents or to have the vote? Isn’t that the point to the vote?

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:40 PM

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Yes, I was joking.

Mark1971 on June 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

What am I missing here?

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Remember, the Dems were successful at dragging down the Republicans with “Bush’s economy,” “Bush’s wars,” and “Bush’s corruption.”

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Yes, I was joking.

Mark1971 on June 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Phewww… Almost blew a gasket there! :)

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Weight of Glory on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Which House dems are you expecting to hold Holder in contempt?

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Ones who are running for re-election?

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2012 at 7:43 PM

What exactly is caving? Is it more important to get the documents or to have the vote? Isn’t that the point to the vote?

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:40 PM

You know, perhaps you’re right. I’ll give the Republicans credit if they can hold Holder in contempt and then do something about it. Remember, just holding him in contempt does nothing. Now, if I wanted to get some momentum behind this, I’d try my darndest to get the public to realize just what happened. That’s going to be hard to do if the story gets buried. You aren’t going to hear Bill Maher and friends covering this.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Ones who are running for re-election?

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Remind me, what’s fast and furious again? I’ve only heard it’s a Republican fishing scheme.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

It seems the only thing a GOP majority is good for at best is to hold the line. You’re not going to really get any rollback or going on offense.

Mark1971 on June 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

They couldn’t have done this on a Wednesday? A Monday?

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Remember, the Dems were successful at dragging down the Republicans with “Bush’s economy,” “Bush’s wars,” and “Bush’s corruption.”

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

If Republicans and conservatives were not so willing to turn on their own this would not have been so easy for the Democrats to do.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Did we learn nothing from Andrew Breitbart?

Stretch it out. Drip. Drip. Drip.

kurtzz3 on June 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Ones who are running for re-election?

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Remind me, what’s fast and furious again? I’ve only heard it’s a Republican fishing scheme.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

And don’t forget, F & F actually started under Bush!

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Where is Crr6? I demand that if she has been banned, that she be allowed to post on Thursday!

I would love to hear her take on things. I think she was a Constitutional scholar or something.

redeye on June 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Which House dems are you expecting to hold Holder in contempt?

Well, there is a block that won’t attend the convention.

MechanicalBill on June 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM

They couldn’t have done this on a Wednesday? A Monday?

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Maybe not, but I do not really think it matters. If the man is voted in contempt, he is voted in contempt and if a lot of people are paying attention to the news because of the Obamacare ruling they will hear about it.

The point is to get the documents..it is not to put on a show anyway. That is what this is about. If they can manage to get that done then it does not really matter when the vote is taken. This is just looking for something to bitch about.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:49 PM

This post has to be a joke correct? Finding Holder in contempt on Thursday will minimize it’s impact because of Obamacare ruling?
It will have exactly the opposite effect. If Obamacare gets tossed the MSM will use both to show how Republicans on the court and in the House are ruining the country, in their opinion. The Holder contempt vote will go to a completely new level as it will immediately follow the release of the ruling.

Thursday could be Armageddon for the Obama administration and you think the MSM is going to ignore 1 of the four horseman? Not likely.

Rocks on June 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Thursday is also my day off! Gonna be glued to HotAir.com.

the new aesthetic on June 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Thursday. Not off but on nights. It’ll be time for a marathon.

hawkdriver on June 25, 2012 at 7:52 PM

I am working like a dog on a project to make sure its complete by Wednesday night!

Mutnodjmet on June 25, 2012 at 7:52 PM

No compromises–but what else do we expect from the Repwimps than to run for cover? And tell Brit Hume to just shut up with his Republican “branding” c-rap–he’s takin’ his own baloney too seriously.

stukinIL4now on June 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM

And don’t forget, F & F actually started under Bush!

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Hahaha. Well, that just might be what we take away from this if the GOP keeps huddling in a corner.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Roller coaster. Say isn’t there a tune for that ?

Bmore on June 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Remember, the Dems were successful at dragging down the Republicans with “Bush’s economy,” “Bush’s wars,” and “Bush’s corruption.”

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

If Republicans and conservatives were not so willing to turn on their own this would not have been so easy for the Democrats to do.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

I don’t know. Conservatives are a principled bunch. We don’t go n blind faith and support someone just because they have an R by their name. They have to have principles as well.
Do you know someone that just goes on blind faith because of that R?

RovesChins on June 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM

If Republicans and conservatives were not so willing to turn on their own this would not have been so easy for the Democrats to do.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Nope. Not an issue with the conservatives. A successful strategy by the democrats that the Bush administration was unable to break. Of course, McCain did a horrid job of combating that as well – often playing right into it and proving them right.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Thursday could be Armageddon for the Obama administration and you think the MSM is going to ignore 1 of the four horseman? Not likely.

Rocks on June 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Hopefully this is right.

I do think that a lot more people will be watching the news on Thursday because of the Supreme Court ruling than otherwise would be and that means more people will hear about the contempt vote anyway.

I honestly do not think the timing is a favor to Obama at all.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Nope. Not an issue with the conservatives. A successful strategy by the democrats that the Bush administration was unable to break. Of course, McCain did a horrid job of combating that as well – often playing right into it and proving them right.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

The irony is no doubt lost on you…that you could not get through your answer without turning on a Republican. That is my point.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Thursday could be Armageddon for the Obama administration and you think the MSM is going to ignore 1 of the four horseman? Not likely.

Rocks on June 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I was thinking the same thing. BUT…

If Obamacare wins in the court AND Holder beats the contempt vote then the Obama as messiah talk will be back and Thursday will set the narrative for the rest of the election.

I’m in desperate need of anti-anxiety meds.

Ampersand on June 25, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Looking too deep into it. They just want to make Friday a half-day so they can all hit the links.

Personally I couldn’t care less how the contempt vote plays politically – Brian Terry’s family deserves at least the symbolism of something being done about his death.

stout77 on June 25, 2012 at 8:02 PM

The irony is no doubt lost on you…that you could not get through your answer without turning on a Republican. That is my point.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Aside from the fact that I loathe John McCain (hey, I gotta be honest), objectively, he did a horrible job campaigning. I’m not “turning on him” by pointing that out. If you think the country wanted 4 more years of Bush (be it the real deal or the story the media sold), you are out of touch.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Aside from the fact that I loathe John McCain (hey, I gotta be honest), objectively, he did a horrible job campaigning. I’m not “turning on him” by pointing that out. If you think the country wanted 4 more years of Bush (be it the real deal or the story the media sold), you are out of touch.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 8:03 PM

It would have been hard for any Republican to win, but John McCain took some of the most unpopular Bush policies and doubled down. :/

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM

The Republican leadership simply will not believe that there is a net benefit to fighting.

GaltBlvnAtty on June 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Ampersand on June 25, 2012 at 8:01 PM

It’s not possible Holder would beat the vote. If the votes weren’t there Boehner would reschedule the vote.

Rocks on June 25, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Nope. Not an issue with the conservatives. A successful strategy by the democrats that the Bush administration was unable to break. Of course, McCain did a horrid job of combating that as well – often playing right into it and proving them right.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM

The irony is no doubt lost on you…that you could not get through your answer without turning on a Republican. That is my point.

Terrye on June 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Didn’t McCain almost change his party affiliation to run with Jon Kerry in 2004. That was the rumor.
John McCain ran a pitiful campaign in 2008. He gave us Obama.
John McCain is now going over the current republican candidate’s fundraising.
He endorsed him, but he just cannot help himself.
Blind faith.

RovesChins on June 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Oh god. I’m visiting my liberal in-laws for a week or so starting Wednesday. Thursday won’t be fun. The passive-aggressive comments will be flying.

Ampersand on June 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Poor timing. Each event will detract from the other. Stupid party strikes again.

Mr. Arrogant on June 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Oh god. I’m visiting my liberal in-laws for a week or so starting Wednesday. Thursday won’t be fun. The passive-aggressive comments will be flying.

Ampersand on June 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM

You have my deepest sympathy.

If it were me, I’d seriously be considering throwing myself down a flight of stairs.

GrannyDee on June 25, 2012 at 8:17 PM

You know why people don’t respect the Republican brand? Because when faced with un-Constitutional actions by the current administration and in light of all the damning implications of Fast and Furious, the Republicans are still afraid to fight.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM

And they keep calling and begging for money!!!!! saying we ‘need to stay strong in the face of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid’! Then they wonder when I start screaming at their staffers: “Not a Penny”!!!! Repubes are gutless!

rotorjoe on June 25, 2012 at 8:35 PM

So what’s wrong with simultaneous detonations? Al Qaeda used to get pretty strong results that way.

Dems won’t know whether to s**t or go blind.

NeighborhoodCatLady on June 25, 2012 at 8:36 PM

If it were me, I’d seriously be considering throwing myself down a flight of stairs.

GrannyDee on June 25, 2012 at 8:17 PM

…hey!…hey!…I sprayed water on my keys…not the monitor! Wasn’t ready for that!

KOOLAID2 on June 25, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Where is Crr6? I demand that if she has been banned, that she be allowed to post on Thursday!

I would love to hear her take on things. I think she was a Constitutional scholar or something.

redeye on June 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM

I just looked in my Hall of Shame folder where I keep ban notices, and I don’t appear to have one for crr6. Anybody know when/if this happened?

Mary in LA on June 25, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Presumably, once the contempt vote is held, the next step will be for the House to file a civil suit requesting that the documents be produced and then that’ll get bogged down in legal procedure and slip quietly off the radar screen before election day.

I don’t care how BIG the ObamaCare ruling is. PEOPLE DIED because of weapons illegally furnished by the US Government.

Putting Holder in CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS isn’t an issue that will ‘just go away’. The Attorney General of the United States IS IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS.

This is going to be revisited over and over.

GarandFan on June 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Boehner and Cantor are essentially choosing to minimize the pressure on the White House, signaling that they’d rather wrist-slap Holder by sanctioning him at a moment when no one’s paying attention than turn this into a true power struggle in the middle of the campaign.

People died – Boehner cried.

LOL – GOP for the LOSE!

Exactly why I’m not voting for these asses – including their kiddie klub president Willy McDole.

Enjoy the eunuchs!

HondaV65 on June 25, 2012 at 8:47 PM

I don’t see what the big deal is. Open two windows. Boehner already said he wasn’t going to spike the ball if Obamacare is struck down, so he can make use of that time by getting Holder held in contempt. I don’t care if the media ignores it, it doesn’t make it go away and it just makes them look even more stupid later. As long as both things go the way I want them to, I can’t think of anything more awesome than having them both on the same day.

Night Owl on June 25, 2012 at 8:47 PM

From my understanding, the leadership wants to focus on jobs.

It would make sense to hold the contempt vote during a busy news day, as they don’t want the Holder thing to get a lot of press.

Mister Mets on June 25, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Remind me, what’s fast and furious again? I’ve only heard it’s a Republican fishing scheme.

MeatHeadinCA on June 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

And don’t forget, F & F actually started under Bush!

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2012 at 7:46 PM

If so then the dhimmicRATs should vote for contempt so they can get documents showing Bush’s involvement.

davidk on June 25, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Issa pointed out that 31 Democrats in congress have said Holder should comply with the subpoenas. Issa and Boehner don’t want a party line vote, they want enough of those Dems to vote with them for the contempt finding to be bipartisan.

I think they are taking advantage of the timing to give the Dems some cover to vote for the finding of contempt by scheduling it for a day when the public’s attention will be elsewhere. Because this is a political battle as well as a legal one. On the legal front, having already defied congressional subpoenas to the cusp of contempt, there is no reason to believe any amount of public displeasure is going to cause Holder and Obama to comply with the subpoenas. Certainly not if the reason for stonewalling is that they can’t give them up without incriminating themselves. They will give up those documents when the US Marshals show up to enforce a judge’s order.

novaculus on June 25, 2012 at 9:05 PM

A link of clarity for MeatheadInCA.

TheLoudTalker on June 25, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I’m a little confused by the post hoc ergo propter hoc problem here. The contempt vote scheduling occurred last week. The Supremes did not announce that they were punting their Obamacare decision(s) to this Thursday until today. What kind of crystal ball was the House leadership supposed to be using?

Voiceguy on June 25, 2012 at 9:14 PM

I’m really annoyed that I will be working Thursday.

Cindy Munford on June 25, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Maybe the GOP should settle for a compromise: Drop the broader document demand in return for Holder producing just one key e-mail — which he’s already admitted isn’t covered by executive privilege.

… REALLY!???

… Gotta tell ya, I’m a big fan, Allahpundit… but you really threw me with that one.

COMPROMISE??? No freaking way! “Compromise” is unacceptable.

Eric Holder is a liar and a traitor who’s committed perjury and numerous high crimes against America(ns).

Nothing less that complete and unconditional compliance with the law is acceptable.

And if the Rs settle for less, then they’re as guilty as he is.

It really IS just that simple.

GuitarMark on June 25, 2012 at 9:15 PM

I’m really annoyed that I will be working Thursday.

Cindy Munford on June 25, 2012 at 9:15 PM

I don’t know what you do for a living, but a lot of people do not let a little inconvenience like that prohibit them from being here! Just saying…

Night Owl on June 25, 2012 at 9:29 PM

The last thing you’d want to do in that case is use your nuclear weapon on a day when the media will be so consumed with covering another story that the blast will hardly be felt

Couldn’t possibly disagree more!

The contempt citation is not the nuke and not the end game here. Voting Thursday will save Republicans from a torrent of political abuse, when there’s no smoking gun on the table. A lot of folks here might enjoy the spectacle, but such confrontations haven’t been working out too well for Republicans, and would supplant discussion of Obama’s invocation of executive privilege which does work to their advantage. Issa’s entire modus operandi has been methodical and incremental. If he’s got a smoking gun (which I suspect he does), he’ll reveal it at the time of his choosing, when the evidence itself is incontrovertible and cannot be spun away. If he doesn’t have that yet, advertising more than he can deliver would be courting electoral disaster.

Piling on Boehner at every turn has become a tedious political knee jerk around here.

JM Hanes on June 25, 2012 at 9:30 PM

I think they are taking advantage of the timing to give the Dems some cover to vote for the finding of contempt by scheduling it for a day when the public’s attention will be elsewhere.

novaculus on June 25, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The problem with this line of thought though is it makes it seem like it is just the initial storm any Democrat voting for contempt will face, and that just isn’t true. Much like the Conservative side when a legislator does something that is seen as betraying their base* and are going to be hammered more by the more passionate (or hard line, take your pick) supporters as they run for reelection.

You think anyone in the Obama run DNC will miss what Democrat voted to condemn Holder just because it happens on the same day as the Obamacare ruling or that that timing will keep the long knives from coming out? It may distract NBC, CBS and ABC from reeling off the names in their half hour news cast but their internet, cable (where applicable) and print offshoots sure won’t let up on those Democrats (who will not be portrayed as principled but rather traitors in those outlets).

Dollars to doughnuts Pelosi is currently making calls discretely along with every major Dem source of money reminding those members of such and pointing out that crossing the guy currently in charge of the DNC could be bad for their immediate career in the short run if he loses in November or worse in the long run as they will have been seen as lining up against Obama and taking a (metaphorically speaking) shot at him. And there is a very old rule in politics-(again, metaphorically only for the slow trolls on the board)If you take a shot at the king, you best make sure it succeeds. I wonder how many Dems Boehner thinks will vote with him are being reminded of that right now.

*yes legality and ethics should be the primary factor- and in that same perfect world this kind of vote would never be needed as no one would have made such a stupid program and unicorn farts would provide the source of all energy needs and when not in use would make rainbows everywhere.

Betenoire on June 25, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Maybe the GOP should settle for a compromise

With Crying John and McConnell? What could they possibly offer as a compromise?

“Mr. President, here’s the deal…..we’ll drop the contempt vote, and you don’t have to give anything. How’s that?”

“Uh….unnnmmmmhhh……drop the vote and the ACA suits and its a deal…”.

“Done!”

BobMbx on June 25, 2012 at 9:38 PM

I think it’s great. Both Holder and Ocare going down on the same day? Just tuning in to MessNBC and watching heads explode is great fun. And the rest of the MSM will have to cover one or the other.

megthered on June 25, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Maybe the GOP should settle for a compromise

No! No! No!

No compromise with evil!

Compromising with Obama & Holder would be like believing the devil when he tells you hell isn’t hot.

GrannyDee on June 25, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Betenoire:

Pelosi often let members of her caucus from purplish districts vote against Dem bills, once it was clear that the bill would pass. If the contempt citation looks like a sure thing, with or without them, there will be zero reprisals for such politically expedient defections.

JM Hanes on June 25, 2012 at 9:52 PM

What’s wrong with a Double-Whammy Thursday? A SCOTUS strike-down of Obamacare and a House holding the AG in contempt on the same day simply magnify each other and the problems of the Obama administration. Fast and Furious is still in the early, getting the average voter’s attention stage, and will benefit from the greater attention given the SOCTUS decision. The media will play it all as sort of a compounded, no, composite Very Bad Day for Obama.

And the HA headline writes itself: Obama’s Administration doesn’t work well with the other two branches of government, does it?

de rigueur on June 25, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Pelosi often let members of her caucus from purplish districts vote against Dem bills, once it was clear that the bill would pass. If the contempt citation looks like a sure thing, with or without them, there will be zero reprisals for such politically expedient defections.

JM Hanes on June 25, 2012 at 9:52 PM

To that I just point out how joined at the hip Holder and Obama are, and how very clear it is that Obama keeps an enemies list. This isn’t just another vote on legislation, this one is more personal and the impact could be much, much greater against Obama than any piece of legislation- other than *maybe* Obamacare- unless of course Holder isn’t stupid and has kept evidence that may lead to Obama.

I grant I could be very wrong, but this one is different and keeping the Republicans from having that (oh so important to the media) tag of “bipartisan support” may make for a difference in this vote so that Obama can make this a “all about what Republican tried to do” vote- well, and actually be telling the truth (He will anyway of course, that is what he does).

Betenoire on June 25, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Betenoire on June 25, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Any Dems who vote for contempt are surely taking a political risk. Minimizing that risk and making it as easy as possible for them makes sense. Particularly when it costs you nothing except headlines, which haven’t been all that positive anyway.

I think Issa is concentrating on moving the ball forward. He wants the finding of contempt so he can move forward with court action, and he would like it to be bi-partisan to make it more difficult for Obama and Holder to portray it as partisan politics.

They have to get the documents and the e-mails. Once they have those, game over. They aren’t going to get them without a court order.

novaculus on June 25, 2012 at 10:23 PM

It surprised the hell out of me when the committee voted on the contempt charge, but to bring it up to the whole House will take a little more backbone then these guys are noted to have. I really think that that military strategy being used in Afghanistan “winning the hearts and minds of the enemy” originally came from the Republican leadership with about the same results.

savage24 on June 25, 2012 at 10:40 PM

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