Video: Follow the ideology

posted at 2:46 pm on June 23, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Bill Whittle pulls no punches in his new Afterburner for PJTV, titled “Follow the Ideology” — but which could just as easily be titled, “Furious about Furious.”  Bill castigates the media outlets that have ignored Operation Fast and Furious, scolding them with the famous exhortation, “Have you no shame?”  Bill also has a few words with other media outlets who argue that it’s either a partisan tempest in a Capitol Hill teapot, or that OF&F was a “botched” operation that mistakenly resulted in guns flowing over the border.  As our colleague Katie Pavlich has argued in her book Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and the Shameless Cover-Up, Bill says this wasn’t botched at all — it was a deliberate attempt to hype the supposed dangers of gun sales and push public opinion into renewing Bill Clinton’s assault-weapons ban and other gun-control measures.  Bill also believes that the hundreds of dead in Mexico from these weapons weren’t an unforeseen and tragic consequence, but part of the strategy all along — and that may be what Barack Obama and Eric Holder are hiding in their claim of executive privilege (via Instapundit and The Right Scoop):

I’d say we’ll find out sooner or later — and perhaps sooner, at that.  The executive-privilege claim won’t hold up in court, and even the ideologues at the White House have to know that much.  Furthermore, in order to make the claim stick, the White House will have to produce a “privilege log” that describes each document they shield through the privilege claim for a court to assess, so we’ll know who was involved in the conversations even before a court rules on the privilege claim itself.  Bill’s accusation is very strong, but if it proves true, then Holder’s resignation won’t suffice to deal with the aftermath — and this highly suspect claim of privilege shows that the White House very much fears disclosure, for whatever reason.


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One of Bill’s best.. must see

theblacksheepwasright on June 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Bill Whittle needs to have a prime time show on Fox News.

joekenha on June 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Have you no shame?”

NO!!!!!!

they lie on June 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Out: “Under the radar

In: “Executive privilege”

BobMbx on June 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Bill’s accusation is very strong, but if it proves true.

IMO

IrishEi on June 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Give BW O’Reilly or Hannity’s slot…

OmahaConservative on June 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

OK someone help me here, I have a question :
Do we know Obama+Holder were/are not providing guns to jihadies ?
How do we know these guns+grenades were/are not being passed on to jihadies ?

burrata on June 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

.under the radar.

If Obama wants to keep it under the radar, he has to interfere with producing documents.

seven on June 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

But… Who’s gonna do anything about it? The Republicans?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

Lanceman on June 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Excellent.

besser tot als rot on June 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Bill Whittle needs to have a prime time show on Fox News.

joekenha on June 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

That might actually make me start watching FNC again !

burrata on June 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Give BW O’Reilly or Hannity’s slot…

OmahaConservative on June 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Nope. Leave Bildo alone. I want him there specifically to piss off Hornet.

Lanceman on June 23, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Link is trapped in the mill.

The One is in it for The One. The president invoked executive privilege because he is protecting himself.

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Just for reference:

Documents: ATF used “Fast and Furious” to make the case for gun regulations
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/

Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation “Fast and Furious” to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.

On July 14, 2010 after ATF headquarters in Washington D.C. received an update on Fast and Furious, ATF Field Ops Assistant Director Mark Chait emailed Bill Newell, ATF’s Phoenix Special Agent in Charge of Fast and Furious:

“Bill – can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks.”

Chip on June 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Give BW O’Reilly or Hannity’s slot…

OmahaConservative

This! x One Trillion

Heck, give him both slots.

chimney sweep on June 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Bill Whittle is sanity in an otherwise gone insane land.

Old media, spontaneously combust, all of you, for not enlightening the people, like Bill Whittle does.

Mexicans, Obama hates you, dead or alive. He just wants your votes. Wake up.

Not mentioned is the other dead agent, and his wounded partner. They have joined the Terry family law suit.

Good on Mr. Whittle for addressing the racist element and the hypocrisy of the leftists in using the war on races.

Too bad Mitt and the PACs are not doing the same.

The smart Latinos and blacks s/b apalled at the race card, used with extremely low expectations of anything from their Messiah, the first black president, Clinton notwithstanding.

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM

This! x One Trillion

Heck, give him both slots.

chimney sweep on June 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM

One to Mr. Whittle and one to Mr. Steyn.

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Follow the dead bodies:

Gunwalkergate

Chip on June 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Bill nailed that one and is absolutely right on how rank and terrible F&F is.

Imrahil on June 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

OCDETF

Understanding this calls for some “inside baseball” about how the Justice Department works. In particular, you’ll want to introduce yourself to “OCDETF,” a term near and dear to the DOJ heart, though one unknown to the public — and boy, does the administration ever want to keep it that way.

OCDETF stands for the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force.

aquaviva on June 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Bill Whittle needs to have a prime time show on Fox News.

joekenha on June 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

This. The guy is brilliant.

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Follow the dead bodies:

Gunwalkergate

Chip on June 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Deadgate

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

But… Who’s gonna do anything about it? The Republicans?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
Lanceman on June 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Sheesh Lanceman, what do you think Issa and Grassley have been doing for the last year and a half? You clearly have not followed this very closely.

Nana on June 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

This. The guy is brilliant.

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 3:10 PM

True, but Fox lost it a while ago and went ‘balanced’. It’ll never be the one of yore, again.

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Right on target.

Bmore on June 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Obama, Holder, and Ayers know the revolution cannot proceed until the Whites are disarmed.

Kungfoochimp on June 23, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Well bho/team/bhopress(every stinkin one of them) are saying it IS BUSH’S fault! No will get the truth from bho/team/bhopress, so Fox(the only network actually reporting this), the blogs, and talk radio are the ones keeping the public informed on this.

IMO, bho really stepped in it this time, it shows he is involved for the ep thing?
L

letget on June 23, 2012 at 3:15 PM

…and this highly suspect claim of privilege shows that the White House very much fears disclosure, for whatever reason.

Shoot, they’ve feared disclosure of every aspect of Obama’s existence from the very start.

Big John on June 23, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Just for reference:

Documents: ATF used “Fast and Furious” to make the case for gun regulations
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/

Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation “Fast and Furious” to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.

On July 14, 2010 after ATF headquarters in Washington D.C. received an update on Fast and Furious, ATF Field Ops Assistant Director Mark Chait emailed Bill Newell, ATF’s Phoenix Special Agent in Charge of Fast and Furious:

“Bill – can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks.”

Chip on June 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

This is certainly one of the reasons, but this can’t be the reason for the claim of EP. Little Bammie could admit this justification and his base would approve. In fact they would still claim it as justification for another ‘assault weapons’ ban.

There has to be more to it than that. Until this week, little Bammie had plausible deniability of F&F. Now he has put himself into it with both feet. There has to be a reason. Something in those documents has to be radioactive.

slickwillie2001 on June 23, 2012 at 3:17 PM

I linked to this last night in the QOTD thread, was hoping it would get its own post. Thanks Ed.

I hope the trolls listened to his explanation about the differences between Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Fast and Furious.

Bill says this wasn’t botched at all — it was a deliberate attempt to hype the supposed dangers of gun sales and push public opinion into renewing Bill Clinton’s assault-weapons ban and other gun-control measures. Bill also believes that the hundreds of dead in Mexico from these weapons weren’t an unforeseen and tragic consequence, but part of the strategy all along — and that may be what Barack Obama and Eric Holder are hiding in their claim of executive privilege (via Instapundit and The Right Scoop):

From CBS News: Documents: ATF used “Fast and Furious” to make the case for gun regulations

LIES about USA Mexico Gun Trafficking

And Ed, I hope you and Allah remind the readers of HA about this:

Fast and Furious is one of the biggest government scandals in recent history.

President Obama would rather protect corrupt officials like Attorney General Holder, than ensure justice for those harmed by Operation Fast and Furious.

The blood of border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, and many others, are on the hands of President Obama and AG Holder.

Protest President Obama and AG Holder in front of the White House’s North Lawn, and show our government that the American people won’t stand for secrecy and corruption! Click for details

.under the radar.

If Obama wants to keep it under the radar, he has to interfere with producing documents.

seven on June 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Here’s the Washington Post article which quotes what Obama told Sarah Brady.

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Bill Whittle is very, very good at this.

Fox could do a lot worse than get this man a show of his own.

Not sure he wants it though.

I have said for a long, long time that Michelle Malkin should have a weekend hour to do a “week of news on the net” type of thing, it would be great. She doesn’t want that, clearly she is happier doing things the way she is doing them now.

I suspect Bill likes being in total control of what he says and how he says it.

It is nice to think for a moment about The Whittle Factor every weeknight, sure would be a big improvement.

Brian1972 on June 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I linked to this last night in the QOTD thread, was hoping it would get its own post. Thanks Ed.

I hope the trolls listened to his explanation about the differences between Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Fast and Furious.

Bill says this wasn’t botched at all — it was a deliberate attempt to hype the supposed dangers of gun sales and push public opinion into renewing Bill Clinton’s assault-weapons ban and other gun-control measures. Bill also believes that the hundreds of dead in Mexico from these weapons weren’t an unforeseen and tragic consequence, but part of the strategy all along — and that may be what Barack Obama and Eric Holder are hiding in their claim of executive privilege (via Instapundit and The Right Scoop):

LIES about USA Mexico Gun Trafficking

And Ed, I also hope you and Allah remind the readers of HA about this:

Fast and Furious is one of the biggest government scandals in recent history.

President Obama would rather protect corrupt officials like Attorney General Holder, than ensure justice for those harmed by Operation Fast and Furious.

The blood of border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, and many others, are on the hands of President Obama and AG Holder.

Protest President Obama and AG Holder in front of the White House’s North Lawn, and show our government that the American people won’t stand for secrecy and corruption! Click for details

.under the radar.

If Obama wants to keep it under the radar, he has to interfere with producing documents.

seven on June 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Here’s the Washington Post article which quotes what Obama told Sarah Brady.

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Whittle would be a major upgrade to Hannity who is a few cans short of a six pack in the intellectual department.

philw1776 on June 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM

“Bill – can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks.”

Who is “we”?

WitchDoctor on June 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM

I believe this is about Valerie Jarrett. I believe she ran this program from the White House, and Holder just took orders from her. That’s why she has drawn the line here with the assertion of Executive Privilege.

Holder is somewhat disposable, as long as he goes along with sacrificing himself. He has to agree, because he knows too much. Jarrett is NOT disposable, she is little Bammie’s brain and one of the directors of the red diaper president project. She IS the administration.

slickwillie2001 on June 23, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Hey, where did all the trolls run off to? /

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Hey, where did all the trolls run off to? /

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

The Upper East Side, that’s where. lol:)

Brian1972 on June 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM

DO NOT call F&F any kind of “SomethingGate” — that makes it sound like a Watergate wannabe. This is its own scandal and doesn’t need to be named after some other scandal.

“Fast and Furious” will ultimately be the description of how the voters kicked out this administration.

Pythagoras on June 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Not mentioned is the other dead agent, and his wounded partner. They have joined the Terry family law suit.

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM

That would be ICE Agent Jaime Zapata and his partner, Victor Avila.

Actually they haven’t joined the Terry family’s suit. Zapata’s family has filed their own “wrongful death” suit against the DOJ. Agent Avila has joined that one.

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 3:35 PM

It is a great piece by Whittle. Saw it yesterday.

But anyone who has followed the stories posted about F&F on HA know several of us have made every single point Whittle makes here, and long ago.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM

DO NOT call F&F any kind of “SomethingGate” — that makes it sound like a Watergate wannabe. This is its own scandal and doesn’t need to be named after some other scandal.
Pythagoras on June 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM

If F&F gets the attention it deserves, then all the future scandals will be named after it, à la SomethingGate.

joekenha on June 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Hey, where did all the trolls run off to? /

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

You wingnuts sure have cute names for your conspiracy theories.

getalife lots of times

There, is that better? :-)

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 3:40 PM

There are several reasons why newsrooms aren’t digging into this story. The first is the ownership of those media outlets. Ultimately the publisher decides the content. The media outlet will always further the political agenda of the person in charge of the organization. It has been that way since the days of Benjamin Franklin. So, a reporter can dig into the story all they want but their content will never see the light of day.

Reporters are advanced according to what hits the newsprint or airwaves. Wasting time on stories that are never published will result in a dead end career.

There is also the journalist’s own leanings. Having been married to a journalist and hung out with several at various social functions, I believe it is fair to say they are not at all shy in their political leanings and that management tends to hire people with personal leanings in the same direction as management.

I can also detect that the news media IS feeling guilty about not reporting this and is attempting to spin the narriative to make that look like the fault of Republicans. An example is a comment by Bill Maher that will get increasing circulation over the next 72 hours that “Republicans don’t care about dead Mexicans”. See what he did there? He COMPLETELY reversed and turned inside out the reality of the situation. This is actually a common symptom of various mental disorders and is called “reflection” or “projection” where you take a trait that you hate about yourself or some group you identify with and cast that onto the other person or group.

In this case it is very clearly the Democrats who do not care about dead Mexicans and intentionally set up hundreds of them for slaughter in order to advance a domestic policy agenda but Maher’s twisted comments will allow them to feel better about themselves so they will repeat it. This is actually quite disgusting and goes to show just how horrible these people really are when they then mirror their own sickness on their political opposition.

This is not going to be widely reported until someone can go viral with something that gets across the notion that this is way beyond politics and is “just plain wrong” at a very basic human level and anyone ignoring it, spinning it, glossing it over, or doing other than their level best to get to the bottom of it are actually accessory to it. Only when it looks so bad for them NOT to dig into it will anything be done but to do so is likely going to result in them having to look at themselves and come to grips on how they let this go so long without being reported.

Bill Maher in his comments show just how disgusting a human being he is. This transcends politics. This is murder of hundreds of human beings. This is crimes against humanity.

This is nothing like Watergate which was the coverup of a burglary in order to get (unnecessary) dirt to use on someone in a political campaign. Nobody died in Watergate. That was just political dirty tricks. In this case, our elected leadership appears to have orchestrated the enabling of the mass slaughter of a neighboring country’s people and our media stays silent on the case because it is counter to their political agenda.

Maybe they should start to question that political agenda. How in the WORLD can the remain associated with apparent monsters like this and look themselves in the mirror each day?

The fundamental problem is that any reporter digging into this story is probably afraid of being ostracized and having their access to information cut off. This will result in their not getting any content to publish. This is going to have to take a concerted effort by ALL of them together to get to the bottom of the story. The White House can’t afford to cut off ALL of the news organizations. It is going to take all of them working together to get this done.

This isn’t about people’s politics at this point. This is about the simple fundamental foundation that binds us all as a civilized society. This is “JUST PLAIN WRONG” whether one is Democrat of Republican, liberal or conservative, gay or straight.

If they let this go, this heralds the end of our society and ANYTHING is permissible from this point forward.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Give BW O’Reilly or Hannity’s slot…

OmahaConservative

This! x One Trillion

Heck, give him both slots.

chimney sweep on June 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Give the slots to Itchy and Scratchy if Whittle won’t take them. Say “no” to bloviating.

trapeze on June 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM

If F&F gets the attention it deserves, then all the future scandals will be named after it, à la SomethingGate.

joekenha on June 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

How stupid is the media? They might be more inclined to cover this story if they could just think of a way to slap “gate” on the end of it.

trapeze on June 23, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Well, that certainly puts it out there. Seven minutes that should be on national TV.

cthulhu on June 23, 2012 at 3:45 PM

This is not going to be widely reported until someone can go viral with something that gets across the notion that this is way beyond politics and is “just plain wrong” at a very basic human level and anyone ignoring it, spinning it, glossing it over, or doing other than their level best to get to the bottom of it are actually accessory to it. Only when it looks so bad for them NOT to dig into it will anything be done but to do so is likely going to result in them having to look at themselves and come to grips on how they let this go so long without being reported.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Hmmmm. Well, if Sheldon Adelson is serious about potentially dropping a hundred mil on this election, he should pay whatever it takes to get the above video played in the middle of the world series, or Dancing with the Stars, or Keeping up with the Kardashians, or whatever it is that they willfully ignorant spend their days watching.

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Actually, that was crr6′s comment about cool names for phoney conspiracies. Thanks to Del it has become forever identified with that idiot. I suspect he’ll be along shortly to post the exact quote.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM

The executive-privilege claim won’t hold up in court, and even the ideologues at the White House have to know that much.

Which is why we’ll probably eventually get the e-mail version of an 18-minute gap on the audiotape, or the most incriminating documents will go the way of Hillary Clinton’s “lost” billing records.

AZCoyote on June 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I’d say we’ll find out sooner or later — and perhaps sooner, at that. The executive-privilege claim won’t hold up in court, and even the ideologues at the White House have to know that much.

Right about now, Sandy Berger is probably mentoring someone in the finer points of stuffing classified documents down one’s pants, and acting being clueless if caught.

Sayan Neviot on June 23, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Love ya Bill!

Tim_CA on June 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM

I can’t believe everybody is wanting rid of Hannity & O’Reilly when we have Shep Smith to boot off. I mean dang, he’s the Fox Obama apologist.

Big Orange on June 23, 2012 at 3:51 PM

he should pay whatever it takes to get the above video played in the middle of the world series, or Dancing with the Stars, or Keeping up with the Kardashians, or whatever it is that they willfully ignorant spend their days watching.

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM

No, not this video. It has to be something much shorter. It should be one minute long, maybe two at the absolute most. It should quickly grasp the horror of the situation and why getting to the bottom of it is our DUTY as human beings to our very society and transcends politics, religion, social status, etc. I have some ideas but I don’t have the resources / skills to do it. Though I will say, this is getting me to the point where I am believing that I really have no choice but to obtain those resources and try.

I have children. This is a matter of trying to save the world they are going to have to live in. If these monsters get away with this, then the entire country will look like Chicago in a very short time as political killings become acceptable. It must stop here and now.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 3:51 PM

How could any reasonable Lib (if they exist) look at the 7 minute video and not be at minimum, curious, and at most, appalled by F&F. There is no doubt in my mind once/if we are to get 100% of the details, this will be the most devastating event ever linked to an American president and Watergate will be forgotten.

hillsoftx on June 23, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Oops. Sorry about the double post. The first one got held up in moderation because of the 3 links in it I guess.

Well bho/team/bhopress(every stinkin one of them) are saying it IS BUSH’S fault! No will get the truth from bho/team/bhopress, so Fox(the only network actually reporting this), the blogs, and talk radio are the ones keeping the public informed on this.

IMO, bho really stepped in it this time, it shows he is involved for the ep thing?
L

letget on June 23, 2012 at 3:15 PM

In fairness, Sharyl Atkinson from CBS has been reporting on this since March of 2011. This was her first report.

Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico

Unfortunately, as far as I know, she hasn’t reported that she was tipped off to this story by Sipsey Street Irregulars.

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 3:55 PM

These are the tactics of Mao.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Actually, that was crr6′s comment about cool names for phoney conspiracies. Thanks to Del it has become forever identified with that idiot. I suspect he’ll be along shortly to post the exact quote.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Thanks. I had forgotten the name of the troll and was too lazy to try looking. They all kind of blend together, you know?

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM

These are the tactics of Mao.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Well, if you recall, Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director has expressed her admiration for Chairman Mao.

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Whittle would be a major upgrade to Hannity who is a few cans short of a six pack in the intellectual department.

philw1776 on June 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM

I have been saying this for years. Same goes for O’Reilly, too, whom Limbaugh very accurately characterizes as “Ted Baxter.”

It’s sad, really. There is no lack of talent…talent which is several orders of magnitude better than those two.

trapeze on June 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM

I am tempted to think that they don’t want to release the documents for one very important political reason: the documents may prove that Obama’s administration cannot blame this heinous operation on Bush.

allstonian on June 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Thanks. I had forgotten the name of the troll and was too lazy to try looking. They all kind of blend together, you know?

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Well, if you recall, Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director has expressed her admiration for Chairman Mao.

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I still have nightmares of lizard tongue.

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Botched? HOW do you “track” weapons when NO effort was made to include a tracking device? HOW do you “track” weapons when you don’t keep the purchasers and the guns under surveillance? HOW do you “track” guns across the border, when the other country IS NOT TOLD what you’re doing?

The only thing they were “tracking” were the SERIAL NUMBERS, which they knew would show up at crime scenes.

Those DOJ records ever see the light of day, Barry Obama may well face impeachment charges.

GarandFan on June 23, 2012 at 4:04 PM

John Hinderaker @ Power Line is also on the Whittle Watch

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/06/fast-and-furious-follow-the-ideology.php

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM

The diehard progs are up in arms over this (often regurgitating mindless talking points).

They’re scared about this.

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Well, if you recall, Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director has expressed her admiration for Chairman Mao.

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 4:01 PM

As has Van Jones. In fact, it seems like Obama has surrounded himself throughout life with Maoists.

Lets not forget Bill Ayers and “Progressives Follow Mao” and his book Prairie Fire which was a reference to Mao’s remark that “a single spark can start a prairie fire.”

Obama is a Maoist, has surrounded himself throughout life with Maoists and has no problem engaging in Maoist tactics to further his agenda.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM

There are several reasons is one reason why newsrooms aren’t digging into this story.
crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 3:40 PM

They have no souls.

FIFM

GrannyDee on June 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I am tempted to think that they don’t want to release the documents for one very important political reason: the documents may prove that Obama’s administration cannot blame this heinous operation on Bush.

allstonian on June 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM

That’s a given. Now, would the blame be on some low level DOJ person, or perhaps higher up the ladder. I’m thinking higher up. Obama and Holder have had no problems with many leaks that have gotten out there. Why’s it that THIS is suddenly of the most urgent secrecy?

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM

I sincerely believe the people of this country have no idea what they elected in Obama and I also believe that many good Democrats in their desire to have someone in the White House with a “D” after their names, are refusing themselves to believe what they have elected. These people are monsters. It is going to be hard to root them all out once President Romney comes in. He is going to have some wholesale steam cleaning to do.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 4:12 PM

AZfederalist on June 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM

The new ones are so low quality they really blend together.

I suspect Obama and Holder are going to give Carol Browner a consulting contract to help them with records management.

For anyone trying to get up to speed on Fast and Furious, I recommend the Sipsey Street Irregulars.

Codrea and Vanderboegh at Sipsey broke the story and have been steps ahead of just about everyone else the whole way. Check out the “Journalist Guides” on the right hand column for the best one stop shopping.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 4:13 PM

would the blame be on some low level DOJ person, or perhaps higher up the ladder. I’m thinking higher up.

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Hillary maybe? She testified that the “Justice Dept. didn’t seek State Dept.’s permission for “gunwalking” operation”

Nah, never mind. We all know Hillary would never lie just to cover her azz.

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 4:17 PM

I sincerely believe the people of this country have no idea what they elected in Obama
crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Of course they don’t, how could they when virtually the entire Fifth Column Treasonous Media conspired to deceive them about Obama.

SWalker on June 23, 2012 at 4:18 PM

OK someone help me here, I have a question :
Do we know Obama+Holder were/are not providing guns to jihadies ?
How do we know these guns+grenades were/are not being passed on to jihadies ?

burrata on June 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Since they made no attempt to track the guns, there is no way of knowing where they ended up. From what I’ve read, these guns were inferior to the guns drug lords and terrorists can get elsewhere.

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:18 PM

I sincerely believe the people of this country have no idea what they elected in Obama and I also believe that many good Democrats in their desire to have someone in the White House with a “D” after their names, are refusing themselves to believe what they have elected. These people are monsters. It is going to be hard to root them all out once President Romney comes in. He is going to have some wholesale steam cleaning to do.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Let’s remind ourselves that the reason we’re getting behind Romney is so that we can get out the guy with a D behind his name.

I’m really curious to see if conservatives will work as hard to keep Romney accountable and clean under the circumstances that he beats Obama. I know some will, but enough?

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:19 PM

It is going to be hard to root them all out once President Romney comes in.

crosspatch on June 23, 2012 at 4:12 PM

I agree. It’s going to be interesting to compare Princess Barry’s tantrum to the classy way W handed over the reins.

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Hey Del. I knew I could count on you.

OCDETF stands for the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force.

aquaviva on June 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

These ops involved multiple agencies from several cabinet level departments. Only one man has the authority to order cooperation on this scale.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Hillary maybe? She testified that the “Justice Dept. didn’t seek State Dept.’s permission for “gunwalking” operation”

Nah, never mind. We all know Hillary would never lie just to cover her azz.

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 4:17 PM

I don’t think so. Hillary’s letting it all go. Wearing the cat glasses and boozing it up. No, I think she figures her time is up and she’ll leave with a pretty good record.

Plus, look at Billy Jeff. If he knew anything about FF, he would have opened his mouth about it.

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Thanks, Mr. Whittle. You are a national treasure as well. I love these stars who continue to come out of the woodwork, from many occupations. I’d never heard of Trey Dowdy before this week. So thoroughly impressed.

hoosiermama on June 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

The diehard progs are up in arms over this (often regurgitating mindless talking points).

They’re scared about this.

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM

LOL- I went over to DU the other day, and their most popular post was how true what Pelosi said about this being nothing but the GOP’s attempt to ruin Holder so he can’t put a stop to GOP vote suppression.

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM

These ops involved multiple agencies from several cabinet level departments. Only one man has the authority to order cooperation on this scale.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Bush?

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM

LOL- I went over to DU the other day, and their most popular post was how true what Pelosi said about this being nothing but the GOP’s attempt to ruin Holder so he can’t put a stop to GOP vote suppression.

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Exactly. That’s the big talking point I’m seeing too. Of course (correct me if I’m wrong) FF and the initial investigations into FF happened long before the “voter suppression” stuff. Plus, as much as I loathe them, many RINOs were fully on board with Holder. So, as far as I can see, the Republicans have finally had enough and they are slowly getting behind Issa (I hope).

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:26 PM

The Fifth Column Treasonous Media only has one moral standard. The End Justifies the Means. It is, oddly enough the same moral standard both Barack Obama and Erick Holder practice.

SWalker on June 23, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Hillary maybe? She testified that the “Justice Dept. didn’t seek State Dept.’s permission for “gunwalking” operation”

Nah, never mind. We all know Hillary would never lie just to cover her azz.

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Katy the mean old lady put up a press conference video from 2009 (I believe), where Gibbs announced that they were using stimulus funds, and who all was involved in the effort to stop guns from the US getting into Mexico. There was a guy from the State Dept. standing there with him, so I don’t see how Hillary can say that, except that in Clintonspeak it’s probably true they didn’t seek her permission, but she sure as heck was involved from the beginning.

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Also regarding the RINO squishes…

You’ve got to wonder if Obama over played his hand. They were whimpering in the corner, afraid to be called racists and obstructionists. But in a matter of just days Obama not only issued an un-Constitutional, Congressional-slap-in-the-face EO, but he also hid behind a weird EP claim. The media has gone on to label EVERY Republican a racist, obstructionists. How much more are Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins willing to take? Are they happy just being symbolic pawns in this Republic?

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM

“This is Watergate — with three hundred dead bodies.”

So therefore, this is MurderGate.

VorDaj on June 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM

It would make my day to see Obama, Holder and the rest of the supervisors frog marched across the border. They need to answer to the families and to the mexican government for the deaths of cartel victims. They also need to answer to the families of agents Terry and Zapata.

Alas with the compliant media and some of the GOP which is spineless I don’t think we will.

banzaibob on June 23, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Exactly. That’s the big talking point I’m seeing too. Of course (correct me if I’m wrong) FF and the initial investigations into FF happened long before the “voter suppression” stuff. Plus, as much as I loathe them, many RINOs were fully on board with Holder. So, as far as I can see, the Republicans have finally had enough and they are slowly getting behind Issa (I hope).

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:26 PM

You aren’t wrong. Democrats adjust everything to fit their agenda, time, reality, honesty, logic, etc. The other thing I noticed peeking in on those sites is how many of the geniuses there never even heard about F&F until the past week. How can you say you follow politics and manage to avoid that knowledge for a year and a half at least?

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:34 PM

You aren’t wrong. Democrats adjust everything to fit their agenda, time, reality, honesty, logic, etc. The other thing I noticed peeking in on those sites is how many of the geniuses there never even heard about F&F until the past week. How can you say you follow politics and manage to avoid that knowledge for a year and a half at least?

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:34 PM

I guess they were too busy mourning Trayvon or something.

You’re right, though. Something’s been popping the last week or so with the lefties. With enough push, the right might be able to get some traction.

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM

The diehard progs are up in arms over this (often regurgitating mindless talking points).

They’re scared about this.

MeatHeadinCA on June 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM

LOL- I went over to DU the other day, and their most popular post was how true what Pelosi said about this being nothing but the GOP’s attempt to ruin Holder so he can’t put a stop to GOP vote suppression.

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM

P.J. Gladnick, who also posts at NewsBusters, has a great blog called DUmmie FUnnies. Thursday he did some heavy lifting:

The Rethuglicans can’t stand having a black man in the White House. The Rethuglicans can’t stand having a black man as Attorney General. The Rethuglicans can’t stand having a black man–or two black men–selling guns to Mexican drug lords. Racism–that’s what’s really behind this manufactured Fast and Furious “scandal.” And so you have this “House Oversight Committee” and their “Chairman” Issa going on a witchhunt to take down Our President. How dare the Oversight Committee try to exercise some oversight! Who do they think they are? Really! “Oversight”? They’re more like the Committee to Overthrow and Unelect the President (COUP).

No, it’s not that the committee is Tasked and Curious. It’s that the conspiracy is Vast and Nefarious. And the DUmmies are Pissed and Furious!

The DU threads are Feisty and Various. I’ll exercise my Executive Privilege and select from several, too many to link.

Enjoy!

http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/2012/06/vast-and-nefarious-conspiracy-to-take.html

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Bush?

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Damn right. If you are a brain dead Democrat. (Sorry for the redundancy.) And if you have any doubts about the brain dead part:

LOL- I went over to DU the other day, and their most popular post was how true what Pelosi said about this being nothing but the GOP’s attempt to ruin Holder so he can’t put a stop to GOP vote suppression.

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM

The degree of delusion involved here is approaching clinical psychopathology. How could any rational person watch that display of lunacy from Pelosi and not be convinced she was completely deranged, let alone agree with her?

In technical terms, these people are nucking futs.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

What is Eric Holder, about 1/8 Black? I guess that’s more than the 1/64 Cherokee that Elizabeth Warren is.

VorDaj on June 23, 2012 at 4:42 PM

hoosiermama on June 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Er…GOWDY.

hoosiermama on June 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM

I’d never heard of Trey Dowdy before this week. So thoroughly impressed.

hoosiermama on June 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

I’ve been a Trey Gowdy groupie since first seeing him in action during these hearings. Here he is at his best.

Rep. Gowdy calls out Holder over claims that he’s being attacked on Fast and Furious for political reasons

Flora Duh on June 23, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Enjoy!

http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/2012/06/vast-and-nefarious-conspiracy-to-take.html

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

You sent me there a few weeks ago but I forgot to bookmark it. I will this time!

The degree of delusion involved here is approaching clinical psychopathology. How could any rational person watch that display of lunacy from Pelosi and not be convinced she was completely deranged, let alone agree with her?

In technical terms, these people are nucking futs.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

I know. I had to leave because it was nauseating, but also depressing because it makes you realize there is no talking to those people, there is just defeating them.

Night Owl on June 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

These ops involved multiple agencies from several cabinet level departments. Only one man has the authority to order cooperation on this scale.

novaculus on June 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Bush?

Kataklysmic on June 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Soros

Rio Linda Refugee on June 23, 2012 at 4:54 PM

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