Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on June 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

President Obama may have to clear a high bar in order to lock down Fast and Furious documents from the prying eyes of congressional investigators.

After the White House asserted executive privilege over potentially thousands of documents pertaining to the botched anti-gunrunning operation, critics of the move pointed out that the federal appeals court in the nation’s capital has taken a skeptical view toward privilege claims in the past…

“The privilege,” the court wrote, “disappears altogether when there is any reason to believe government misconduct occurred.”

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The OCDETF designation enabled Fast and Furious investigators to use wiretaps. This is highly unusual in ATF-run cases — almost all federal wiretapping is done in investigations led by the FBI or the DEA. As noted above, wiretapping requires Main Justice approval. But that’s not all: As I’ve previously outlined, federal wiretap law mandates that the application to the court describe the investigative tactics that have been used in the investigation and explain why those tactics cannot achieve the investigation’s objectives without wiretapping. If the Fast and Furious wiretap applications complied with federal law, they must have described the gunwalking tactic. These applications cannot be submitted to a federal judge until they have been approved by Main Justice; they are submitted to the Department’s Office of Enforcement Operations, which screens them very carefully.

There is little doubt that the wiretap applications would show that senior DOJ officials were aware of the gunwalking tactic long before Agent Terry was gunned down on December 14, 2010. But that’s not the half of it. Bet your bottom dollar that gunwalking was discussed in the consideration of whether to make Fast and Furious an OCDETF case in the first place. OCDETF investigations, moreover, are carefully monitored by the Justice Department throughout, to ensure that the extraordinary flow of funding continues to be worthwhile. I’m wagering that senior DOJ officials — which is to say, Obama-administration political appointees — knew about the gunwalking for close to a year before Agent Terry’s death.

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Republicans want to know whether top officials at Justice or the White House knew about the gun-walking program, which, although they haven’t turned up evidence of this, would be a reasonable line of inquiry. But casting doubt on their motives are the documents they are demanding: only those since February 2011 — two months after Terry was killed and the program was shut down.

Rep. Gerald Connolly (D-Va.) accused Issa of setting up a “kangaroo court” to convict Holder. “If this were a genuine attempt to make sure that the Terry family had closure, we’d have an open investigation,” he said, and call witnesses involved in the program over the past six years. But, Democrats complained, Issa never sought public testimony from people in the Phoenix ATF office who ran the operation, or from the former head of the ATF, who told committee investigators that he never informed Justice Department higher-ups of the operation because he didn’t know about it…

The indignation would sound more genuine if Republicans weren’t going after Holder over what has happened since Terry died.

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Along with conservative commentators like Rush Limbaugh, Issa suggested as late as April that Fast and Furious may have been part of a policy by the White House to flood the Mexican market with guns to foment violence, which would then put political pressure back on the US to curb its wide-open border gun bazaar and weaken Second Amendment rights…

“Could it be that what they really were thinking of was in fact to use this walking of guns in order to promote an assault weapons ban?” Rep. Issa said. “Many think so. And [the administration] hasn’t come up with an explanation that would cause any of us not to agree.”…

[W]hile the political lines around Fast and Furious are thus clearly drawn, allusions to Watergate-sized conspiracy theories do, at the very least, also help bolster Issa’s central point: If only to quell such theories, Americans deserve to know whether it was really a hapless bureaucratic blunder or whether administration officials lied about the extent of their involvement in what became a deadly scandal.

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Pity lead House Republican investigator Rep. Darrell Issa of California. It is his misfortune that he isn’t looking into matters about which the Obama administration can talk freely — namely, all its covert national-security programs.

If Justice Department documents that Issa’s committee seeks from Attorney General Eric Holder had been the subject of a top-secret meeting in the White House Situation Room, their contents already would have been splashed across the media. Issa could read the A1 New York Times story and be done with it.

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Via the Daily Caller.

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de rigueur on June 24, 2012 at 2:19 AM

Carol Browner has the consulting contract on the records problem. Poof!

Seriously, this operation was so big and involved so many people they can’t hope to eliminate all the evidence.

novaculus on June 24, 2012 at 2:26 AM

If you really want to HURT a troll, completely IGNORE the troll.

PolAgnostic on June 24, 2012 at 2:05 AM

…I know P A …but just look at the first 4 pages…almost every post is a reply. That goes on in every thread. I’ve seen the old crew here a year or so ago…COMPLETLY ignore a troll after she tried 30-35 times to get someone to bite..and it was funny! They did it several times and it was gone. They did it a few times…Here…with all us newbies…not so much!
I’ve wanted the new people to duplicate that…since you see folks requesting it periodically…but we just don’t get it! I’ve followed commentators obnoxiously (I don’t like doing it) every time they respond to a troll…requesting in some way that they don’t feed it. (Feed the good one’s…starve the poop!)…
A week or two ago though…there was a glimmer of hope!…Dr T came on after saying goodbye to us all…and started his talking in general…hot button technique… post after post…AND NO ONE bit!…
When everybody keeps responding…I give up and start needling them… hoping they turn around to bite…but as you saw with lobotomy4life and a few others… they avoid you (cause I could get crazy)…and someone else cracks them.

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Carol Browner has the consulting contract on the records problem. Poof!

novaculus on June 24, 2012 at 2:26 AM

“I would like my files deleted. I want you to delete my files.” LOL

de rigueur on June 24, 2012 at 2:33 AM

nstead of coming up with tangible ways to promote growth and reduce unnecessary spending, they will rather focus on highlighting trivial misgivings amongst struggling Americans.

Stop the class warfare between the middle class.

Uppereastside
on June 23, 2012 at 8:44 PM

.
Says the defender and apologist for those persons who have been writing the book on how to divide the Middle Class with Class Warfare since before the the birth of the United States.

listens2glenn on June 24, 2012 at 2:33 AM

listens2glenn on June 24, 2012 at 2:33 AM

…e x a c t l y…!!!

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Good points..UES has had a bad night!!..Bad indeed!..:)

Dire Straits on June 24, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Thanks! I think the more they talk the better, even if it does make me kind of sick.

…ah yep! UPyerassideways …the fellow Bizarro No.1 thinks I’m obnoxious with…(:->)

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 1:59 AM

Well…..You are obnoxious, but I don’t have a problem with that.

Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 2:40 AM

Hussein and Mooch had their law licenses yanked ?

burrata on June 24, 2012 at 2:22 AM

At last check, the obamanation’s license is in “retired” status and her’s is in “inactive” status. Both, suposedly, done voluntarily…

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 2:40 AM

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 2:27 AM

.
Well, if you feel a breeze, duck. THEY say you never feel the breeze of the ban hammer that gets you … but it can’t hurt.

Bmore and I were planning on creating some sock puppets for various “alternative” personalities during the next open enrollments …

Richard Less – high energy moby who just can’t find the right hole in the conversation

Gay4ever4RickS – a tantrum voter who will always carry a torch for Santorum

Sort of a counter moby effort most notably marked by inadvertently making the case we are arguing against.

PolAgnostic on June 24, 2012 at 2:44 AM

Gohawgs- I checked out that Johnny cash you posted right after I left last night. Good stuff.

But I’m too burned out to trade tunes tonight. Another time.

With that, I’m signing off folks. Everyone have a good evening.

novaculus on June 24, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 2:40 AM

(:->)

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 2:40 AM

…hey hawgs!…and at last check…we find out he wasn’t a “Professor”…but a “guest lecturer” at the university.

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 2:47 AM

novaculus on June 24, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Glad you liked it. Both were “purpose” posts…G’night

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 2:49 AM

Seriously, this operation was so big and involved so many people they can’t hope to eliminate all the evidence.

novaculus on June 24, 2012 at 2:26 AM

They don’t need to eliminate all the evidence though, just the stuff that goes to the top which Obama can’t pardon himself for. From there everyone else who could implicate him will probably see themselves get a pardon once he has managed to get enough info on them that they can’t run to a prosecutor afterword and implicate him at a later date.

And let’s face it, should Obama lose in November there will be a major push by the media to say that he has “suffered” enough and that it is time to just drop this and move on with the process of healing the country (the process of healing to end of course the moment it looks like they got their wish and the investigation or prosecution has been dropped).

Sure the people pardoned will likely have their reps tarnished but with some big pocket support Obama can place them in positions where it will never really matter going forward as they are well taken care of.

Granted, that is a cynical look but given the way the media/WH have run so far, if it is off it is simply because I failed to understand the depth that deviousness can run.

Things get interesting of course if they are granted a pardon as they lose the ability to plead the Fifth in court if I understand things as they would be immune from the penalties of all the crimes for which they received the pardon but any lies in testimony afterword to muddle the record could be prosecuted if proven false.

Betenoire on June 24, 2012 at 2:52 AM

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 2:47 AM

And, at last check we reconfirm that the obamanation WAS a member of the dem socialist party and sought their endorsement when running for office in Illin’ noiz…

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 2:52 AM

PolAgnostic on June 24, 2012 at 2:44 AM

…where is that B anyway?…he already has a sockpocket ready I think…and gave the name.
All the ‘tune’ people went to bed early…so I’ll hit the hay…don’t forget the morning crew likes it clean on Sundays!

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 2:54 AM

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 2:49 AM

We have had excellent posts tonight with very few videos!!..:)

PS..I thought I would play a classic!..:)

Dire Straits on June 24, 2012 at 3:01 AM

I’ll go with this one

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 3:09 AM

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 3:09 AM

I tip my fedora..Excellent!..:)

Dire Straits on June 24, 2012 at 3:10 AM

Sorry to butt in. I just finished reading the McCarthy article from NRO. After doing so, I’m becoming convinced that this is huge and that the Obama administration deserves to be under a microscope under it. McCarthy lays it out very well.

BuckeyeSam on June 24, 2012 at 3:15 AM

BuckeyeSam on June 24, 2012 at 3:15 AM

Butt right on in…

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 3:21 AM

BuckeyeSam on June 24, 2012 at 3:15 AM

I agree!..:)

Dire Straits on June 24, 2012 at 3:32 AM

Americans will never vote for a coreless person as president.

Uppereastside on June 23, 2012 at 8:51 PM

They did in 2008.

Where is KingJester’s Uppereastside on June 23, 2012 at 8:51 PM | Delete | Delete and Ban when we really need it?

Who is John Galt on June 24, 2012 at 3:55 AM

done voluntarily…

Gohawgs on June 24, 2012 at 2:40 AM

Why would the Obamas do that ?
That is what we need to find out, what are they hiding ?
What is it they are covering up ?
His SS# ? His degree ? His transcripts ?

burrata on June 24, 2012 at 4:06 AM

No more Bill Mahr. Ever, please.

The best thing he ever did was “Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death” and that movie stunk to high heaven. The guy is a joke and a partisan hack.

Theophile on June 24, 2012 at 4:09 AM

Gohawgs
good to see you, ppl have been looking for you…,…….;)

angrymike on June 24, 2012 at 4:10 AM

Only in America

1) Only in America could the President talk
about the greed of the rich at a $35,000 a plate campaign fund-raising event.

2) Only in America could people claim that the government still
discriminates against black Americans when we have a black President, a
black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal work force is black
while 12% of the population is black.

3) Only in America could we have had the two people most responsible
for our tax code, Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department
and Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee, BOTH turn out
to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

4) Only in America can we have terrorists kill people in the name of
Allah and have the President and the media react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash.

5) Only in America would we make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of
thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who
sneaks into the country illegally just become American citizens.

6) Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the
budget and sticking by the country’s Constitution be mocked by the President
and labeled “extremists” by the media.

7) Only in America are you required to present a driver’s license to
cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote.

8) Only in America could the President and the media blame oil
companies for gouging the public because the price of gas went up when the return
on equity invested in a most major oil companies is less than half that of
a company making tennis shoes (Nike).

9) Only in America could the government collect more tax dollars from
the people than any nation in recorded history, but still spend over a
trillion dollars more than it has per year while the President complain that
there is not nearly enough money to do what he wants.

10) Only in America could the people who pay 86% of all income taxes
be accused by the President of not paying their “fair share” on
behalf of the people who don’t pay any income taxes at all.

VorDaj on June 24, 2012 at 4:11 AM

I’m still tired of us expecting politicians to produce “jobs”. Politicians don’t make “jobs”, unless they pay you to hand out fliers or post on blogs.

When did we buy into the meme that Government creates Jobs?

Who is John Galt on June 24, 2012 at 4:21 AM

VorDaj on June 24, 2012 at 4:11 AM

Only in America do you need to go through an extensive background check to join the military ,
but no background check is done for the Commander&Thief of the same military

burrata on June 24, 2012 at 4:22 AM

When the hide and seek game ends, what ever in the world makes us think for moment that this crowd will leave any evidence around?

Don L on June 24, 2012 at 4:39 AM

angrymike on June 24, 2012 at 4:10 AM

Good to see you friend!

Dire Straits on June 24, 2012 at 4:58 AM

Sorry to butt in. I just finished reading the McCarthy article from NRO. After doing so, I’m becoming convinced that this is huge and that the Obama administration deserves to be under a microscope under it. McCarthy lays it out very well.

BuckeyeSam on June 24, 2012 at 3:15 AM

It’s an absolute must read article. Not short, but the first two pages are necessary to understand why Fast & Furious could not and did not go on without direct approval from the highest levels of the DOJ (which is explained on page 3).

They have been lying the entire time about this case, and it can only be because they have something to hide. If it were merely the embarrassment of failure, they would have blamed it on the local agents and investigators early on.

Adjoran on June 24, 2012 at 5:01 AM

Adjoran on June 24, 2012 at 5:01 AM
BuckeyeSam on June 24, 2012 at 3:15 AM
thanks for bringing up the article. the fact that mccarthy was involved in OCDETF cases lends even further credence to his stunningly simple and lucid narrative.
how the obamamedia has quashed this story is beyond belief. even in this day and age. i mean this is HUGE. i knew it was big. just not this BIG.

and boehner and mcconnel want to push this under the rug cause it just may upset the indpendents? or is it that they know the race card will be played. like its never been played before. or ever will.

renalin on June 24, 2012 at 6:00 AM

Dire
If you see this, I’ve just been lurking, the heat at work has been kickin my butt …………

angrymike on June 24, 2012 at 6:17 AM

The latest Rasmussen poll has Obama’s approval under water by 10% at 44-54! As usual, Rasmussen used a sample of 1500 likely voters.

That is awfully bad news for PBHO and great news for America. We’ll have to see if a few more polls also place his disapproval that high.

MJBrutus on June 24, 2012 at 7:23 AM

VorDaj on June 24, 2012 at 4:11 AM

That was awesome! I bookmarked it for future use.

Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 7:24 AM

So I’m thinking,adding Waterloo,to the end of
Fast and Furious Hopey/Changey!

Is Fast and Furious the Next Watergate or Obama’s Waterloo?

It is an appalling story of arrogance, stupidity, and the intimidation of ATF agents who dared to question and expose the operation. It is a story of deception at the highest levels of our government.

Family Security Matters) – When suspects in a crime are interrogated, they often develop memory loss. When the crime is running guns to drug cartels on both sides of the border, the crime involves the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol officer, Brian Terry, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, Jaime Zapata, and countless Mexican citizens.

Katie Pavlich has written an extraordinary expose, “Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and its Shameless Cover-Up” (Regnery Publishing). Pavlich, a reporter with extensive contacts within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), has meticulously documented a story that should result in contempt of Congress action against Attorney General Eric Holder and possibly Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano as well.
(More….)
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http://www.teaparty.org/article.php?id=3125

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 7:26 AM

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Sounds like The chickensssss, are coming home to ROOST!

It might be a pretty interesting summer after all. I guess Hopey & Holder should have released the documents last year instead of waiting till four months before an election to make this a national story.

Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 7:50 AM

So,theres a connection between PATCON and Eric Holder in the Oklahoma City Bombing ordeal!!!
_________________________________

The truth about the lies about the Chicago ‘terrorists’
by Admin on June 19, 2012
*************************

Now If Americans really want to see examples of terror I suggest they Google “Operation PATCON” amd “FBI Operation Patriot Conspiracy” and “FBI Torture and Murder Kenneth Trentadue” and see real terrorism, torture and murder.

This is all taken from FOIA requests and investigations by Law Professor Jesse Trentadue into the torture and murder of his brother at the hands of the FBI in a case of mistaken identity. His investigation led the movie “A Noble Lie” which shows the FBI had infiltrated Elohim City and provided parts and material for the OKC bombing of the Murrah Federal Building.

Attorney Trentadue has documented Eric Holder’s obstruction into a congressional investigation of Operation PATCON,

the deleting of 16 videos from business video cameras,

the destruction of the videos from the Murrah Federal Building itself and the destruction of logs to show who tortured and murdered Kenneth Trentadue while he was in the custody of the FBI in a case of mistaken identity.

Kenneth Trentadue was mistaken for Richard Lee Guthrie and was the same weight, height, hair color, eye color and build. He also had the same style of tattoo on the same arm and drove the same pick-up style truck. Yet, Kenneth Trentadue’s torture and murder, the FBI’s connection to Elohim City, the destruction of video tapes of the bomb being delivered take from business video cameras and the tapes from the Murrah Building the FBI suddenly “lost” all show the U.S. media is nothing more than propaganda arm run without any desire to get to the truth or exposing police state crime and tyranny.(More….)

http://congressmantomtancredo.com/category/trentadue-files/
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Eric Holder Belongs In Orange Jumpsuit
by Admin on June 19, 2012
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Nevertheless, Eric Holder was involved in a much greater crime,

one that official Washington of both Parties has yet to find enough courage to even mention, let alone investigate it.

There is clear and incontrovertible evidence that Holder was involved in covering up the Clinton Administration’s part in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.

The Clinton Administration’s “story” actually started to unravel even before the sunset on April 19, 1995, the day a homemade bomb brought down the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City murdering 168 women men and children. But it is hard to find that fact in the mainstream media.
An investigation into the jailhouse death of a man named Kenny Trentadue by his brother Jesse an attorney led to Jesse bringing a lawsuit against the Federal Bureau of Prisons. All Jesse Trentadue wanted was answers about how his brother died and nothing more. Trentadue was not on a political crusade. He had no idea the strange pieces of information he was able to pry out of the Federal Government

using Freedom of Information requests would take him from Oklahoma City to the office of Assistant United States Attorney Eric Holder in Washington.

In the “discovery” phase of his successful wrongful death suit against the Clinton Federal Bureau of Prisons,

Trentadue came upon the fact that Eric Holder had been sent from Washington to Oklahoma City to “manage” the investigation surrounding Trantadue’s death.

That is clear and not contradicted by any available evidence, but why did Eric Holder assume that responsibility?(more….)
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http://congressmantomtancredo.com/eric-holder-belongs-in-orange-jumpsuit/

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 7:55 AM

VorDaj on June 24, 2012 at 4:11 AM
That was awesome! I bookmarked it for future use.
Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 7:24 AM

Ditto

Cleombrotus on June 24, 2012 at 7:58 AM

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Good grief!

Cleombrotus on June 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Sounds like The chickensssss, are coming home to ROOST!

It might be a pretty interesting summer after all. I guess Hopey & Holder should have released the documents last year instead of waiting till four months before an election to make this a national story.

Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 7:50 AM

Night Owl:Oh you ain’t kidding,yup,gonna be a hot political summer,
btw,Egypt is about to announce who won,this could turn o
ut badly me thinks!:)
Oh,in case it goes south,heres Live Feed from Jihady TV,
er,Aljazeera!!:)

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/
====================================

Egyptian police ordered to confront any attempt to break the law with decisive force ahead of presidential results announcement – @AP

Submitted 30 mins ago by editor

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Fox News needs to go down to Mexico and start interviewing some of the families of all these dead Mexicans. Plaster it 24/7. And lets get some more interviews of the whistleblowers. They’re usually pretty popular with our watchdog media in instances of govt malfeascance.

sbvft contributor on June 24, 2012 at 8:05 AM

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Good grief!

Cleombrotus on June 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Cleombrotus:I did not know that…..wow!!

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 8:06 AM

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Thanks for the link. Hey, from your other stories, it sounds like the Congressional Oversight Committee should have a sub committee devoted completely to Eric Holder!

Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 8:17 AM

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Thanks for the link. Hey, from your other stories, it sounds like the Congressional Oversight Committee should have a sub committee devoted completely to Eric Holder!

Night Owl on June 24, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Night Owl:And a huge Independant Investigation Team!:)

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 8:42 AM

angrymike on June 24, 2012 at 6:17 AM

Make sure you take care of yourself.

Cindy Munford on June 24, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Thanks to BuckeyeSam for tip on National Review/McCarthy article on F&F, and to Adjoran for the link. Will wade through it all, after the Talking Head Parade.

Holder’s looking Daft & Delirious.

TheClearRiver on June 24, 2012 at 9:14 AM

No more Bill Mahr. Ever, please.

The best thing he ever did was “Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death” and that movie stunk to high heaven. The guy is a joke and a partisan hack.

Theophile on June 24, 2012 at 4:09 AM

.
Oh, c’mon now. “DC Cab” wasn’t that bad.

But he remains “a joke and a partisan hack.” : )

listens2glenn on June 24, 2012 at 9:36 AM

If Justice Department documents that Issa’s committee seeks from Attorney General Eric Holder had been the subject of a top-secret meeting in the White House Situation Room, their contents already would have been splashed across the media. Issa could read the A1 New York Times story and be done with it.

+1000

VorDaj on June 24, 2012 at 4:11 AM

Let these truths ring out so that Americans can take their country back.

talkingpoints on June 24, 2012 at 10:16 AM

VorDaj on June 24, 2012 at 4:11 AM

LOL in the comment section:

Re-electing Obama is like backing up the Titanic and hitting the iceberg again

Fallon on June 24, 2012 at 10:17 AM

And, just for yucks:

“It’s a great day for our president. He’s down in Mexico for the G-20 Summit. Today he met with Russia’s Vladimir Putin. He said ‘I think your communist policies are a danger to the world.’ There’s no word on how Obama responded.”

~Craig Ferguson, June 18, 2012~

Fallon on June 24, 2012 at 10:23 AM

High profile Conservative New Media personalities, like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, need to shame the MSM on this by loudly repeating over and over again that the likes of Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer would be fighting each other in a death match for the chance to interview Brian Terry’s parents IF they were accusing a Republican administration of a cover up. They would turn them into another Cindy Sheehan like hero.

Rush, Sean, and others, should come out and say “it’ll be a cold day in hell with pigs flying before these two Liberal propagandists, masquerading as serious journalists will touch Brian Terry’s parents with a 200 foot pole”.

Holder’s stonewalling is disgusting, but the MSM’s double standard in ignoring this story is even more disgusting. This is the best approach at calling them out. By all accounts, Brian Terry was an upstanding man, and his parents are heartbroken. Why would the two queens of milking personal tragedies not want to jump all over this story?

Time to start asking this question, again, and again, and again, and again.

ardenenoch on June 23, 2012 at 9:23 PM

^This^ is such a great point, I’m repeating it.

GrannyDee on June 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM

canopfor on June 24, 2012 at 7:55 AM

…thanks canopfor !

KOOLAID2 on June 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Going to do things a bit different, last to first, plus its morning not night.

Video 3 A prime example of why I don’t watch this puke. At least Gillepsie made them look the fools they are, and Mortermer did well staying out of the idiot mold also. My favorite spittle mouthed moment. Libs do a lot of spittle mouthing.

Gillespie: You should not be forced by your Democratic partisanship to be forced to…
(Crosstalk.)
Maddow: I’m just trying to say a nice thing, and you’re already, ‘You’re a hack!’ Listen, dude, I’m not even a Democrat!
Gillespie: That’s not what I’m saying…
(More crosstalk.)
Gillespie: You will always take the side of a Democrat over a Republican.
Maddow: No, I won’t. You don’t even know me.

Maher is simply contemptible as usual.

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Video 2 Bill Whittle, what else needs to be added to that spot on expose’ ? Oh, oh, I know, *raising hand* Impeachment! Damn, Bill Whittle is good. Right on Target!

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Video 3 The nice crease fellow. What was that? At the :37 mark of the vid? Let me rewind…..there it is very faint……once more……ah, stupid. Stupid, the administration with the super crease acting stupidly? Huh, who knew? Back to the vid……..Three more stupids…..wow 1:17 stupider.Wow 2:00 begrudgingly states”Its a clear winner for the Republicans ( if this gets out). That my friends is rich. Creaseless?

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM

JUNE 22, 2012 12:00 A.M.
Obama’s Best-Kept Secret
Why not just leak the Fast and Furious documents?
By Rich Lowry

This

Somehow, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives thought that letting 2,000 guns “walk” into the arsenals of bad actors with no means of tracking them would be a devastating blow against gun-trafficking.

This

if they are truly of no consequence, there’s no reason to protect.

And this from me. Trapped!

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM

What ‘conspiracy’ lies behind Eric Holder and ‘Fast and Furious’?
Whether or not a botched government gun interdiction scheme known as ‘Fast and Furious’ was tied into White House gun policy is roiling the right – and a cause for scoffing on the left.

By Patrik Jonsson, Staff writer / June 23, 2012

Good article, one minor disagreement, I don’t see this as a ‘conspiracy’. I see this as one theory. To me the most likely theory, and apparently I’m not alone on that take.

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Republicans’ attempt to hold Holder in contempt is uphill battle

By Dana Milbank, Published: June 20

For some reason at the break for the first paragraph of the article, I am as a reader asked to stop reading and have a look at these comments first. Here they are.

MichSeag is inflamed that Republicans are not investigating the actual gun-walking operation, code-named Fast and Furious:

The underlying F&F program may indeed have been FUBAR. But it is Issa that isn’t interested in it. He is witch-hunting any little email or memo or some line in an obscure internal document that he can blow out of proportion and take out of context to smear Holder with – and by proxy, the president, just a few months before the election.
Alantibbetts thinks the inflammation is part of a deliberate bipartisan strategy to get us all shouting at each other, rather than at our government:

Meanwhile, in other news the US Senate passes a $1 TRILLION famr subsidy bill. Pay no attention to the legislation behind the curtain. We have a nice dog and pony show in the center ring.
T5grrr says inflamed partisanship led to deliberate disclosure of things!

Yes, the ATF gave them all of the documents. In printed form, thousands of pages. Now if I were trying to deliberately stall an investigation, this is exactly what I would do, smother them with paper and hope they don’t notice a few missing pages.
Yes, there is a skunk in the works, a very big and very smelly one that needs to be kicked out.
NoTheocracy thinks the inflammation will work itself out, once it’s obvious enough that the investigation is political:

Issa assumed his chairmanship determined to find something on the Obama administration. That this is the best he can do is a testimonial to the Obama administration and a reflection of the witch hunt that Rs are determined to carry out.
And andrew23boyle is inflamed that Democrats’ inflammation appears to be swelling their eyes shut:

It is sad that so many PREFER to remain ignorant of the complete facts of this case and what lies in the tens of thousands of documents that our employee Eric Holder refuses to share with the people and our representatives but I guess that’s the world in which we live.
But . . . who benefits from all the inflammation? Well, we in the fireproof PostScript bunker noticed a couple of commenters hatching a theory: that other commenters are, in fact, paid to be inflamed partisans and paid to post on The Post’s columns:

Conservator thinks he or she has found one:

Is reagansuckedbigtime a paid troll or a volunteer for Team Obama? Must be a volunteer because no one would pay for this clown’s comments.
findingoutaboutyou agrees:

HE IS A GEORGE SOROS BOT.
The partisan inflammation — the whole investigation Milbank derides, and even you and me here arguing — all of it is part of the plan, and has been from the beginning. It is a plan to CREATE JOBS. Convinced that each side is winning through trickery, more and more political operations will have professional Internet commenters able to expertly inflame in 20 words or fewer, leading to more inflammation and more need for professional commenters. Eventually we will all have jobs as havers of opinions, and America will be strong again. Partisan inflammation will save us all.

Not sure why yet……continues reading. The article ends with this.

The indignation would sound more genuine if Republicans weren’t going after Holder over what has happened since Terry died.

Well since I was instructed to read the comments let me bring the first after the articles conclusion over here. Just to compare to the comments I had been directed to read just one paragraph in.

spamsux1
6/22/2012 4:52 PM EDT
Milbank says:

“There is something charmingly futile about House Republicans’ move to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.”

Dana thinks it “charming” that the DOJ is the judge of the boss of the DOJ, Eric Holder, in the case of the Fast and Furious investigation.

Everyone knows they won’t fairly investigate, so why bother, right? How charming.

And of course if calls for an outside investigator come about Dana will deem that to be “un-charming”.

Do these people or the editors even listen to themselves?

Good one! ; )

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Fast and Furious and OCDETF

By Andrew C. McCarthy

That would be the president who just invoked executive privilege.

Yep. The other shoe drops.

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Court rulings suggest ‘privilege’ claim over ‘Furious’ docs would fizzle, Republicans say

By Judson BergerPublished June 23, 2012FoxNews.com

‘The privilege disappears altogether when there is any reason to believe government misconduct occurred.’
- D.C. appeals court in 2004

One thing to observe about the 0 administration. They suck at many things, one of which is knowing how to properly holster a pistol. Good Times! No eeyore moments here. Good times!

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Great QOTD Allah! Thanks!

Bmore on June 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM

federal appeals court in the nation’s capital has taken a skeptical view toward privilege claims in the past…

“The privilege,” the court wrote, “disappears altogether when there is any reason to believe government misconduct occurred.”

huh….it’s almost like the court was contemplating circumstaces exactly like this.

cya in court….and hey, good luck with that election ya bumbling dolt.

Why does Obama hate innocent Mexican Citizens and American Border Agents?

Tim_CA on June 24, 2012 at 9:42 PM

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