Rubio: Holder needs to resign

posted at 10:56 am on June 21, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Escalation, via our friends at The Daily Caller:

During a breakfast for reporters organized by The Christian Science Monitor on Thursday, Rubio responded “yes” when asked if he agrees with presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney and the five other U.S. Senators who have called for Holder’s resignation.

“I think we’re at the point of no return,” Rubio said.

I doubt that Marco Rubio alone will move the needle on a Holder exit.  It does, however, force more coverage of the dispute over Operation Fast and Furious, including in places where it may not have been well covered before.  For instance, the bastion of conservative thought known as the New York Daily News features an opinion column today from two legal experts demanding that the Obama administration and Holder come clean and produce the subpoenaed documents.  They point directly to the misleading and shifting testimony of Holder and his staff at the Department of Justice as the underlying need for the disclosure:

For nearly a year and a half, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has been investigating why the Justice Department would approve the sale of thousands of weapons and not determine how they would be tracked. Since the beginning, Attorney General Eric Holder and the Obama administration have delayed or denied access to critical information about Operation Fast and Furious. Several times, Holder has had to clarify his testimony about the program, and information came to light directly countering what he had earlier told Congress. Despite having in his possession a subpoena since last October, Holder has refused to turn over more than 130,000 documents relating to Fast and Furious. …

The oversight committee, through a whistleblower, came into possession of six wiretap applications that show top-level Justice Department officials knew about this program but appeared to do nothing to ensure that dangerous firearms were monitored and prevented from harming others. A claim of executive privilege at this moment looks like the administration has something to hide, fueling suspicions rather than getting to the bottom of the matter. …

The fact is that Congress has a right to investigate, and questions about government involvement in a failed operation will persist until the full story is told. That cannot happen if the executive branch refuses to show documents that are directly germane to the investigation.

The longer that Holder and Barack Obama try to hide behind a spurious claim of executive privilege, the more it will become apparent that the country needs another Attorney General. Rubio is right; this shows that Holder, at least, has passed the point of no return.


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We need a Special Counsel to unravel the conspiracy within the DOJ

J_Crater on June 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Holder needed to resign last year… He’s “all in” and will be a millstone around Obama for the campaign… Leave him where he is; he’ll do the most damage there…

Khun Joe on June 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Yes, Holder does need to resign. Then if we can get Rubio to do the same, we’ll be rid of two politicians that play the race card.

MadisonConservative on June 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM

But, you know, it is still all Bush’s fault. I think that Bush must be one heck of an evil genius to have masterminded so many terrible things that even the The One cannot fix them. Or, maybe Barry is just a doofus.

daj on June 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM

A claim of executive privilege at this moment looks like the administration has something to hide, fueling suspicions rather than getting to the bottom of the matter. …

cue my music!!

ted c on June 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM

The longer that Holder and Barack Obama try to hide behind a spurious claim of executive privilege, the more it will become apparent that the country needs another Attorney General.

And maybe another President?

joejm65 on June 21, 2012 at 11:01 AM

“Going forward, anytime the American people want to know something that I or a former president wants to withhold, we will have to consult with the Attorney General and the white house counsel, whose business it is to ensure compliance with the rule of law. Information will not be withheld just because I say so; it will be withheld because a separate authority believes my request is well-grounded in the Constitution. Let me say it as simply as I can: transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency,”
… Barack Obama January 2009

The man is good with words.

Now if only words alone could accomplish something.

jaydee_007 on June 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM

And just what will Holder’s resignation do for the nation?

(I agree that he must go, but how do we fix the problems he has caused?
Black Panthers
Voter ID lawsuits
AZ lawsuits
etc … )

CrazyGene on June 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM

How long before Holder realizes he wants to spend more time with his family?

dirtseller on June 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Obama Mode on: Et tu Marco, Et tu?

SWalker on June 21, 2012 at 11:05 AM

This is ‘welcome news’

faraway on June 21, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Friday night AG dump?

kingsjester on June 21, 2012 at 11:05 AM

And maybe another President?

[joejm65 on June 21, 2012 at 11:01 AM]

No maybe there.

Dusty on June 21, 2012 at 11:06 AM

And just what will Holder’s resignation do for the nation?

(I agree that he must go, but how do we fix the problems he has caused?
Black Panthers
Voter ID lawsuits
AZ lawsuits
etc … )

CrazyGene on June 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM

I’d like to say, “It will Stop the Bleeding.”

However, I’m of a mind that with Obama it will be like the Who said, “Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss.”

jaydee_007 on June 21, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Rubio: Holder needs to resign.

Gee, ya think? Holder has been bad news to DC for years. We locals to DC have known about Holder and were sickened by his appointment. Once he is gone the pins that hold up Obama will be kicked away and the collapse will begin. Keep up the pressure.

BetseyRoss on June 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM

OT: Am I the only one who is seeing the Sam’s Club ad that blocks some of the text above the comments section or the comments being displayed as centered in their respective boxes instead of left margin justified as normal? This has been happening all week along.

As to the Sam’s ad, I followed the AdChoice link on the ad and opted out of every single advertiser, but it won’t get rid of this ad, nor fix the centering problem.

Any ideas?

TXUS on June 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Friday night AG dump?

kingsjester on June 21, 2012 at 11:05 AM

I could sympathize with holder there. That’s what always happens to me when I avail myself of 2-for-$1 tacos at happy hour.

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:08 AM

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:08 AM

LOL. Had Mexican food and a couple of Marqaritas with my bride last Friday night in celebration of the first week on a new job. I hear ya.

kingsjester on June 21, 2012 at 11:10 AM

However, I’m of a mind that with Obama it will be like the Who said, “Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss.”

jaydee_007 on June 21, 2012 at 11:06 AM

No. Unless Obama makes a recess appointment, congress would be able to block any Holder clone.

But I’m still convinced Holder will not resign, no matter what happens.

The Rogue Tomato on June 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM

John Bryson just resigned, does that count?

More to the hit and runs than we were led to believe?

str8tface on June 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM

So, what’s Rubio going to do about it?

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM

We need a Special Counsel to unravel the conspiracy within the DOJ

J_Crater on June 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM

FIFY

upinak on June 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Any ideas?

[TXUS on June 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM]

Have you cleared your cache of cookies, etc. I’ve not seen a Sam’s Club ad here at all.

Dusty on June 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM

When the Walls Come Tumbin’ Down…

kingsjester on June 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I’ll do my best olbermann impression.

RESIGN SIR!!!

rubberneck on June 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM

What is the practical point of forcing Eric Holder to resign? Like any other ‘rat in the White House, he is unfamiliar with the concepts of disgrace and shame, and neither is his boss. He’ll likely pose as a noble victim by stepping down and gracefully accepting a cushy job in one of the numerous Soros-funded structures, and the MSM will present him as a witch hunt victim. The weasel should be prosecuted and thrown to rot in jail – preferably Mexican.

Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM

How long before Holder realizes he wants to spend more time with his family?

dirtseller on June 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Holder will use the “I’ve become a distraction to the good work being done” theme.

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:14 AM

John Bryson just resigned, does that count?

str8tface on June 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM

With Obama’s malfeasance, looks like they need 2 days a week for document dumps…

hillsoftx on June 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Eric Holster needs to go, but that should not preclude Issa and his committee from getting ALL the F&F documents.

This fish definitely stinks from the head.

Rixon on June 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Somehow I doubt holder will resign? But, bho JUST might let holder resign if the heat gets too hot for him? Afterall, bho NEVER takes the blame for anything. I hope to goodness someone comes up with proof bho/team is involved in F&F.
L

letget on June 21, 2012 at 11:18 AM

What is the practical point of forcing Eric Holder to resign?

Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Starting to re-build public trust in the DoJ and the AG’s role as the lawyer for the American people. All the people, not just the black ones. All the people, not just the illegals the Dems need to vote in elections even though they don’t have valid photo ID. All the people, not just the President who needs gun walking schemes to set up the conditions to attack the 2nd Amendment.

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:18 AM

I know this is superficial, but don’t you guys have a less unflattering picture of Rubio?

Caiwyn on June 21, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Just released: Holder is stepping down to join former Congressman Anthony Weiner on Socialist Party ticket.

Weiner-Holder 2012 – “We look good in orange!”

Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM

NBC’s coverage of the contempt charge is awesome.

They called it a bitterly partisan move and yet another sign that ‘politics is broken’.

NBC isn’t broken, it’s bent.

CorporatePiggy on June 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM

it’s all a game ! This will cement in the minds of the undereducated that we’re are raaaaaccissst !!!

Look, there are more sinners than saints, more politically illiterate than politically astute, more people in the wagon than not. The approach of the left is to point out that we’re all sinners, and you know, they’re right ! it’s working . . .

Plus the adults in the media have abrogated their responsibility.

This WILL end badly – for the good guys. Didn’t they blame the burning of Rome on the Christians ? There you go.

williampeck1958 on June 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM

New polling just out from Rasmussen:

Rubio’s Favorables Are Rising Among Independents

Thursday, June 21, 2012

Florida Senator Marco Rubio’s name recognition is on the rise with increasing mention of him as a possible running mate for Mitt Romney. His favorables are up nationally, especially among independent voters.

Forty-two percent (42%) of Likely U.S. Voters now share a favorable view of the first-term Republican senator, while 31% view him unfavorably. Twenty-eight percent (28%) are undecided. This compares to favorables of 35% and unfavorables of 28% in early April, with 37% undecided.

The new findings include 22% with a Very Favorable opinion of Rubio and 11% with a Very Unfavorable one. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on June 19-20, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Resigning shouldn’t even be an option for Holder. He should be imprisoned.

wildcat72 on June 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM

How long before Holder realizes he wants to spend more time with his family?

dirtseller on June 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Little Bammie will send him to Kosovo on a 737 for some kind of fact-finding mission.

slickwillie2001 on June 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Any ideas?

TXUS on June 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM

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Dr. Carlo Lombardi on June 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM

What is the practical point of forcing Eric Holder to resign?
Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Starting to re-build public trust in the DoJ and the AG’s role as the lawyer for the American people. All the people, not just the black ones. All the people, not just the illegals the Dems need to vote in elections even though they don’t have valid photo ID. All the people, not just the President who needs gun walking schemes to set up the conditions to attack the 2nd Amendment.

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Do you actually believe that Holder’s successor, appointed during summer recess by Obama, will be assigned a task to “re-build public trust in the DoJ”? I heard Van Jones is available for the task…

Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Have you cleared your cache of cookies, etc. I’ve not seen a Sam’s Club ad here at all.

Dusty on June 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Thanks, Dusty. I haven’t but all of a sudden the problems appear to be fixed. Hmmmm? I’ll do that next, though.

TXUS on June 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM

The longer that Holder and Barack Obama try to hide behind a spurious claim of executive privilege, the more it will become apparent that the country needs another Attorney General.

“I say we take off vote in November and nuke the site entire administration from orbit the ballot box. It’s the only way to be sure.”

Timothy S. Carlson on June 21, 2012 at 11:23 AM

BetseyRoss on June 21, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Bingo.

He IS Obozo’s ‘gate-keeper’ on anything Federal law-enforcement agents discover/uncover.

Note how many FBI investigations make the headlines… then disappear into bowels of the DOJ (and off the front pages).

Holder ain’t goin nowhere… only impeachment, or an election will remove him.

CPT. Charles on June 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM

If he resigns, it leaves Barry without a fireshield, even if a replacement is immediately appointed. Too much time during the confirmation period leaves Barry pretty vulnerable right before the election. Also, the new appointee wouldn’t be current on the really bad stuff they are hiding. I just don’t see him resigning, what with an undated, signed pardon already resting securely in his back pocket

a capella on June 21, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on June 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Thanks, Doc, the problems seemed to have fixed themselves, but script blocker is something I should check into, as I do use Firefox.

TXUS on June 21, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Just released: Holder is stepping down to join former Congressman Anthony Weiner on Socialist Party ticket.

Weiner-Holder 2012 – “We look good in orange!”

Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

AubieJon on June 21, 2012 at 11:25 AM

It is very strange indeed, perhaps Holder needs to resign, but what is missing, is Holder’s outrage that this has happened on his watch. What is missing is that he did not get angry, demand answers from his staff publicly a long time ago, and FIRE some people.

That is how you try to convince people that you didn’t do it. That you care about blaming the perps.

This is why it looks like Obama and Holder don’t care about this gone wrong policy, and say “they stopped doing that, wasn’t that enough?”

It does look bad when the president says he has something to hide with executive privilege. The thousands of documents Issa has requested cannot possibly be all covered by executive privilege, don’t most of them belong to the American people by sunshine rules? Is everything at DOJ a secret??? Why would that be?

Fleuries on June 21, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Rubio: Holder needs to resign

…so I care what Rubio SAYS…why?
…I care what menstruating Mitch and boneless Boehner have to say!

KOOLAID2 on June 21, 2012 at 11:27 AM

case in point – Brian Williams says about Fast and Furious, “oh, they’re just squabbling, those Dems and Repubs, like they always do. Meanwhile, new breakthroughs in green technology have just been announced by a subsidiary of Solyndra”

williampeck1958 on June 21, 2012 at 11:27 AM

daj on June 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Bush’s fault?

Ask MSNBC and they will tell you that this program started with President Bush and was ended by Attorney General Holder.

Ignore the truth that a bunch of liberals are always out for ops like his to nab gun owners or sellers.

IlikedAUH2O on June 21, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Do you actually believe that Holder’s successor, appointed during summer recess by Obama, will be assigned a task to “re-build public trust in the DoJ”? I heard Van Jones is available for the task…

Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM

No, they will not be assigned the task to re-build the public trust. I’m quite sure the current regime doesn’t see the problem. But what possible purpose is there to let Holder stay in a job he so clearly should be fired from?

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:28 AM

The AG’s resignation is necessary but not sufficient.
The culture of corruption needs to be unraveled.
A long road ahead.

Kenosha Kid on June 21, 2012 at 11:30 AM

My paranoid friend thinks that this “botch” was deliberate. The idea was to kill a lot of people and ban more types of weapons.

He didn’t know how they intended to keep the source of the weapons secret until we heard about Executive Privilege.

IlikedAUH2O on June 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Obama is not protecting Holder. He is protecting himself. Or so he thinks. He is actually tightening the noose around his own neck. Pass the popcorn.

xrayiiis on June 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM

NBC’s coverage of the contempt charge is awesome.

CorporatePiggy on June 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM

And my level of contempt concerning NBC is equally awesome. Seriously, any news organization that gets caught doctoring tape not once but twice in as many months is no better than HuffPo or one of the other fringe outlets.

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Does anybody know why it takes 18 months to conduct an investigation? Is this typical? Also, can Holder be brought up on criminal charges? If he resigns, does that let him off the hook? I’d hate to see him get some cushy job at a liberal university poisoning the minds of a new generation of Dem voters.

hopeful on June 21, 2012 at 11:33 AM

No, they will not be assigned the task to re-build the public trust. I’m quite sure the current regime doesn’t see the problem. But what possible purpose is there to let Holder stay in a job he so clearly should be fired from?

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:28 AM

As a governmental employee, he must testify under oath before the Congress. I am sure he has a lot to sing about – his boss’s affairs, in particular – when a substantial prison term will be in plain view.

Archivarix on June 21, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Why are the Republicans allowing the Democrats to get away with this stuff. Tell the Democrats, if they want to allow the White House and the Justice Department to get away with hiding information, they need to go and tell Brian Terry’s family that their party is more important than the truth. They need to tell them that the upcoming election is more important than their son’s life. Let’s put the onus on the Democrats because they’re the ones playing the game. All this other garbage they mention had no dead bodies laying around, so let’s get this all in perspective, please.

bflat879 on June 21, 2012 at 11:36 AM

If Rubio were a Democrat, he would accuse a Republican administration of conducting a war on Hispanics or something. But he’s not, so Rubio can only rely on intelligent and reasoned arguments.

RadClown on June 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM

My paranoid friend thinks that this “botch” was deliberate. The idea was to kill a lot of people and ban more types of weapons.

IlikedAUH2O on June 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Nothing paranoid about the idea at all. What was botched was the details of F&F became public at an importune time for the plot. I have no doubt that the ATF was deliberately told not to track what happened to the firearms for the purpose of “documenting” how many weapons purchased in the US finds their way to the Mexican drug cartels. Solution- make it harder to buy firearms in the United States.

F&F was nothing but groundwork to attack the 2nd Amendment by the same people who take oaths to uphold the Constitution. This is why Holder needs to go despite idiots who think it would be a meaningless action.

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Flash: Bus monitor fund up to $180,000 !!!

faraway on June 21, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Welcome to the 1% lady.

faraway on June 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Rubio: Holder needs to resign

Lol. And if he doesn’t what are you going to do about it? Cry and whine like a lil b1#%h I guess.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM

I just don’t see him resigning, what with an undated, signed pardon already resting securely in his back pocket

a capella on June 21, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Oh it already has a date, either November 7 2012 or January 19/20 2013 (or possibly 2 pardons just to cover what may happen between the dates should Obama lose). He won’t get a pardon before the election just because of the optics but it is easy to string things out until then so he doesn’t have to worry about any jail time before the pardon can kick in.

Betenoire on June 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Lol. And if he doesn’t what are you going to do about it? Cry and whine like a lil b1#%h I guess.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Sounds like someone we all know…

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Lol. And if he doesn’t what are you going to do about it? Cry and whine like a lil b1#%h I guess.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM

By the way, whom would you hold responsible for the deaths of Agents Terry and Zapata, as well as hundreds of Mexicans, resulting from Operation Fast and Furious? Hmm?

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Yeah, well, Nancy says those mean ol’ rethuglicans are just using the Contempt of Congress vote as a way to stop Holder from fighting voter suppression.

Contempt of Congress? Contempt of Congress? To frivolously use that really important vehicle to undermine the person who’s assigned to stop the voter suppression in our country? I’m telling you this is connected. It is no accident. It is a decision and it is as clear as can be – not only to monopolize his time, it’s to undermine his name, to undermine his name, undermine his name as he goes forward to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Here’s the video if you’ve got the stomach for it.

http://www.therightscoop.com/pelosi-contempt-vote-really-about-stopping-holder-from-fighting-voter-suppression-in-our-country/

I honestly think this woman’s street-car has jumped its tracks.

Flora Duh on June 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM

I’ll do my best olbermann impression.

RESIGN SIR!!!

rubberneck on June 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Fine. But did you also spew spittle at your monitor while you typed that? I think Olbie was the best spittle spewer that MSNBC has ever had.

climbnjump on June 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Recall that the NRSC backed OompaLoompa(!!!) over Rubio, and Crist certainly wouldn’t be saying the same things today. I know that Rubio said yesterday on Laura Ingraham that he doesn’t hold grudges, but elephants do have good memories. Rubio is impressive. Articulate. Good-looking. Vocal–increasingly so. Hmmmm….

hoosiermama on June 21, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Does anybody know why it takes 18 months to conduct an investigation? Is this typical?

hopeful on June 21, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Michelle Malkin doesn’t call him Eric “Stonewall” Holder for nothing.

Flora Duh on June 21, 2012 at 11:47 AM

So, what’s Rubio going to do about it?

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Maybe help Holder get a job in a Cuban law firm? Though Syria or Egypt might be a better fit.

bettycooper on June 21, 2012 at 11:47 AM

By the way, whom would you hold responsible for the deaths of Agents Terry and Zapata, as well as hundreds of Mexicans, resulting from Operation Fast and Furious? Hmm?
steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Cite your source.

kingsjester on June 21, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Hey look! A camera light!

Mr. Arrogant on June 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

That old canard? The former administration didn’t let guns walk into Mexico. the former administration wasn’t responsible for arming drug cartels. The former administration wasn’t responsible for the guns that killed Agents Terry and Zapata. The former administration wasn’t responsible for the guns that killed hundreds of Mexicans.

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Wow! What courage! Some lady has been calling for Holder’s resignation since last year. Her name escapes me.

HerneTheHunter on June 21, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

We are.

Happy Nomad on June 21, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Do you even know the difference between Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious, genius?

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:57 AM

He didn’t know how they intended to keep the source of the weapons secret until we heard about Executive Privilege.

IlikedAUH2O on June 21, 2012 at 11:31 AM

If the guns had stayed in Mexico (which anyone watching border statistics would know wouldn’t happen) then only the numbers that Mexico seized from the US would have been reported. When the guns were used in the incident that killed Brian Terry were found near the scene the hope of the guns just being a number in a statistic vanished as it had a trail that lead back to F&F.

Without that though Obama could have just stood up and talked about all the guns that went to Mexico while the operation remained in the shadows as the guns in those cases would never have been traced back to F&F. Then again, the DOJ did a (disgusting, probably criminal) amount of work to try to hide the connection even after and had it not been for some diligent reporting (mostly by the new media) and those who were forced to go along with a plan that they could see would explode and apparently some people in government who either have a steak of morals or conscience the incident might very well have remained hidden.

Betenoire on June 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Nobody in a democrat admin is ever held responsible for murder of innocent people. Janet Reno was responsible for the murder of 80 or so innocents. She got in front of a microphone and said “I take full responsibility”, after which she took no responsibility and nobody did anything about it.

The Rogue Tomato on June 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Cite your source.

kingsjester on June 21, 2012 at 11:51 AM

He probably thinks it is Vin Diesel’s fault.

Betenoire on June 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM

For 8 years we heard about how dumb Bush was, (a puppet for Cheney, etc.), and yet during that same 8 years (and beyond) you also heard how he was smart enough to pull off 9/11, Iraq war, firings, etc.

I said it for 8 years and I’ll keep saying it…If he was smart enough to pull off 9/11, then how can you call him stupid. And now he’s too smart for Obama to get past? Wow, would that I was that smart.

ajbell on June 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Do you even know the difference between Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious, genius?

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Don’t mind him/her. Everyone knows everything is Bush’s fault, going back to George Washington.

The Rogue Tomato on June 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

You can put that lame talking point in the trash can.

Operation Wide Receiver:

1 – was coordinated with Mexican authorities
2 – included surveillance of the guns
3 – was designed to walk guns TO, not across the border, and then sting the criminals
4 – was stopped when its failures were revealed

Fast and Furious which was started in 2009 under Holder’s DOJ, had none of the safeguards in 1-3 and was stopped only when an ATF whistleblower couldn’t take it anymore.

Oh, and btw, you must have missed this:

Holder withdraws claim that Bush’s attorney general knew about gunwalking

Flora Duh on June 21, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Do you even know the difference between Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious, genius?

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Sure he does. It’s what he yells at his boyfriend all the time.

AubieJon on June 21, 2012 at 12:03 PM

I’m just glad the Supremes didn’t hand down the ObamaCare or SB1070 decisions today. The decisions would have been a convenient bright shiny object distraction from this mess Obama and Holder are in. This way they get to twist in the wind for a couple more days, even over the weekend and the ‘talking heads’ news shows on Sunday.

Then again, Obama will probably announce he is legalizing pot on Friday and blind the media with another BSOD.

Timothy S. Carlson on June 21, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Don’t mind him/her. Everyone knows everything is Bush’s fault, going back to George Washington.

The Rogue Tomato on June 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Also, Cheney, Rove, and Palin.

steebo77 on June 21, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

lol are you working to make yourself look so stupid?

F&F is 0bamessiah’s baby, you reprobate – Wide Receiver, a similar but not identical program, was Bush’s.

If you cared more about reality, you’d readily acknowledge the significant differences between WR and F&F…

Bizarro No. 1 on June 21, 2012 at 12:06 PM

What’s with this idiot Rubio showing up all over the place, all of a sudden. I have no desire to hear from this miserable piece of sh!t, whether he happens to hit on a correct idea by chance or not. He liked Barky’s abuse of power and rending of our Constitution in order to pander to the people he’s concerned about more than American citizens so I don’t care what Rubio thinks about anything. STFU, Marxist Rubio and go away. You need to resign right along with the criminal Holder (who needs to be criminally prosecuted).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Bush – Wide Receiver – Mexico was involved with the operation and the guns had location devices on them and were all accounted for.

Obama – Fast and Furious – No communication with Mexican Government. Only communication was with cartels and the gun stores who sold the guns under permission from the DOJ. No guns were tracked and are only found after criminal activity has taken place. Hundreds of Mexicans and 2 American Law Enforcement officers have been killed with these Obama Guns.

NBC is a caricature of themselves and is Obama’s propaganda corpse. Jake Tapper at ABC News is trying to play catch up, while blood drips off of DOJ’s hands. 2 American families are still hurting and unable to get any closure. Obama and Holder lied and government employees died. Someone must be held accountable. If this had been a Republican Administration the media would have been reporting on it since the start. Instead we have a whistle blower who feeds Fox News and CBS News info, both networks have done admirable work on this story. The remainder of the Alphabet media is taking a huge hit and as the leaky faucet gets worse, they will most likely be relegated to their parents basement with a years supply of cheetos and a union crew to help broadcast their tales from the crypt.

Atlanta Media Guy on June 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM

So Floriduh awesome summation, In Holder’s world, if I say something under oath and it is revealed to have been a lie then I can just tell the court or Congress that I retract my earlier statement. Done! Just think we could have save millions in attorney fees for Scooter Libby, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds and others.. hell just do what Holder does retract the statement and all is well! No perjury no jail! Who knew! Yea!

Atlanta Media Guy on June 21, 2012 at 12:19 PM

What’s with this idiot Rubio showing up all over the place, all of a sudden. I have no desire to hear from this miserable piece of sh!t, whether he happens to hit on a correct idea by chance or not. He liked Barky’s abuse of power and rending of our Constitution in order to pander to the people he’s concerned about more than American citizens so I don’t care what Rubio thinks about anything. STFU, Marxist Rubio and go away. You need to resign right along with the criminal Holder (who needs to be criminally prosecuted).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Ya know, this rant is getting rather tiresome.

He’s my Senator, I voted to put him into office and I want to hear what he has to say, even if I don’t agree with it all the time.

As a duly elected representative of the people of Florida he has just as much right to voice his opinion on the issues as you do.

Flora Duh on June 21, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Fast and Furious Legalization of Illegal Aliens Undocumented Citizens:

The appeal of amnesty will create added incentives for people to come north and be captured within the Obama’s waiver policy. As a matter of public policy, how does one verify that someone has been “living in the shadows” for 5 years or more, when by definition they lack documentation.

For Obama, this is not only about the pending election, but it is more fundamentally about transforming the nation along ideological lines and creating a rapidly expanding political block.

Two of the most contentious political issues involve the unfettered transport of people and guns across the border.

Isn’t it time we control the border before it becomes a political impossibility (if it has not become one already)?

R Square on June 21, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Atlanta Media Guy on June 21, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Its pays to be the boy king’s AG.

Flora Duh on June 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Ya know, this rant is getting rather tiresome.

So is being called a “racist” for wanting to defend American sovereignty and the Rule of Law. Very, very tiresome.

He’s my Senator, I voted to put him into office and I want to hear what he has to say, even if I don’t agree with it all the time.

As a duly elected representative of the people of Florida he has just as much right to voice his opinion on the issues as you do.

Flora Duh on June 21, 2012 at 12:19 PM

He never had much to say, before. He was as quiet as a mouse … until his push for amnesty and calling the rest of us “raaaaacists”. Now, he’s got something to say about everything as if he represents conservatives, or something.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 21, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Perhaps you might want to start with the admin who started Fast and Furious.

Uppereastside on June 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM

That was Obama, you sickening little sack of lying pus. “Wide Receiver” was started under Bush. “Fast and Furious” was started under Obama, funded with the Obama stimulus. Your lies won’t survive.

MadisonConservative on June 21, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Ed:

” It does, however, force more coverage of the dispute over Operation Fast and Furious, including in places where it may not have been well covered before.”

Don’t leave the Spanish language media out of the equation here. The death toll south of the border has largely been treated as an addendum to the murder of Agent Terry here, but the fact that so many civilians have been killed, as a direct result of a U.S. operation which the Mexican government was never even told about, is stunning. Holder was finally shamed into an apology to Terry’s family, but who has apologized to the hundreds of grieving families in Mexico? Let someone at Univision as Obama about that.

JM Hanes on June 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Yes, Holder does need to resign. Then if we can get Rubio to do the same, we’ll be rid of two politicians that play the race card.

MadisonConservative on June 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Fully agree on both counts.

And on first one, Holder, right after resignation we have to hand him over to Mexico to stand trial there.

riddick on June 21, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Holder was finally shamed into an apology to Terry’s family,

JM Hanes on June 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Can you cite a reference for this? I didn’t think Holder EVER apologized to the Terry family

koaiko on June 21, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Holder was finally shamed into an apology to Terry’s family, but who has apologized to the hundreds of grieving families in Mexico? Let someone at Univision as Obama about that.

JM Hanes on June 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Calderon’s working on that as we speak, on behalf of all of the murdered Mexicans he himself has been grieving over…

Bizarro No. 1 on June 21, 2012 at 12:42 PM

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