Could Ron Paul’s delegates nominate him for VP at the GOP convention?

posted at 6:31 pm on June 21, 2012 by Allahpundit

In which HuffPo once again demonstrates its Jedi mastery of SEO by cooking up far-fetched link bait about the pol with the most passionate fan base on the Internet. Which reminds me, look for my eight-part series coming soon to HA, “Could Ron Paul win the presidency via a national write-in vote?”

The bad news? There appears to be a very, very, very, very, very, very slim chance that this might happen, resulting in an unholy clusterfark on the floor. The good news? For the first time ever, the convention might be interesting this year.

Republican officials are still waking up to the fact that Paul loyalists — who control the majority of delegates in Maine, Minnesota and Iowa, and have sizable contingents in a number of other states — could very likely enter Paul’s name into nomination for vice president. This would force a roll call vote where each delegate of each state is polled on the floor of the convention…

Not only would such a floor fight step all over the message of party unity and strength that the Romney campaign hopes to drive through the convention, it would also open the door for alternatives to Romney’s choice to gain momentum and further drive the process off the rails.

For example, if Romney chose Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) as his vice presidential pick, but the Paul forces leveraged their impressive foothold in several states to nominate Paul from the floor, then someone like Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla) could emerge as the preferred pick for many delegates as the convention goes into a roll call vote. And Rubio’s name could be entered into nomination, in addition to Paul’s, if a plurality of five states voted to nominate him.

Follow the link for background on how the relevant rule here came to be. Romney’s already clinched the nomination, of course, but the VP nomination is technically an open contest, and since Paul’s fans now represent a majority of delegates in four states (Nevada, Minnesota, Iowa, and Maine), all they need to do is find a plurality in one other state that’s willing to vote for him over Romney’s VP pick and they can force a floor vote. A footnote to all this: The RNC can change the rule before the convention to require a majority of delegates in five states to nominate someone, which would make things much harder for the Paul fans. But if they do that, they’re going to make an already contentious relationship even more contentious, which could mean floor chaos or Paul voters staying home in even greater numbers than the RNC expects.

If only there was some way to appease them at the convention. Over to you, Robert Costa:

[O]ne surprising name was added to the [VP] mix by a couple of Romney advisers: Senator Rand Paul. Inside Romney world, the Kentucky freshman’s stock is rising. He’s certainly not a leading veep contender — he has not been asked for paperwork — but he is a valued ally. Within weeks, Paul will hit the trail for Romney. Rallies and other public events are in the works.

Paul is also slated, I’m told, to speak at the Republican National Convention. “We speak to them and are going to be helping them more as we go forward,” says one aide close to Paul. “Rand will do some surrogate work for him soon.”

So the convention will be a coronation of sorts for Rand as well as for Mitt, as Paul fils becomes an official National Figure and the Paul movement finally gains some mainstream recognition by the GOP. No one in Ron Paul’s campaign will want to jeopardize that with a floor stunt by his delegates, but does Team Paul have enough sway over their base that they can get their supporters to lie low for Rand’s benefit? Remember, some Paul fans are irritated at him for endorsing Romney; they’re bound to be more irritated if, as Costa claims, he hits the trail for Mitt. If you’re a true believer who’s convinced that Rand will betray the movement by getting too chummy with Beltway Republicans, why would you pass on a chance to nominate Ron for VP as his last shot at political glory before retiring? Or am I just trying to talk myself into believing this is kinda sorta plausible because it’d be a bottomless traffic goldmine?


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Rand Paul will be the VP pick. For the same reason Sarah Palin got the nod. The libertarian vote.

http://classicalvalues.com/2012/06/a-rally-report/

MSimon on June 22, 2012 at 2:43 AM

I think Romney will handle the coming deleveraging better than Obama, but it is like I said – noodling at the margins of the national ledger. I’m actually a bit relieved that Dr. Paul won’t be at the helm as it would sully the reputatation of Austrian Economics before it’s even given a chance in a nation full of idiots.

abobo on June 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Bit relieved? :)… But then you are aware that this might be his only chance, as senile and old as he is now, you couldn’t seriouly have hopes for 2016??? :)… Besides, shite happens, the man is 100 yo…

jimver on June 22, 2012 at 3:06 AM

I’m not voting for Romney or Obama, either way.

Even if Rand was selected for vice.

Am I supposed to vote for Mitt and hope he gets killed so Rand can lead?

Ugh.

fatlibertarianinokc on June 22, 2012 at 3:16 AM

By all means bet on your bottomless goldmine traffic scenario. Ron Paul has the MAJORITY in five states. Here’s the case for Louisiana: The party establishment tried to put in place incredibly draconian rules before the state convention to keep Paul delegates from going to RNC, but even though the ‘chair’ self declared himself without vote and tried to call rules committee chair up to ramrod those rules into ratification, he was removed before they could be ratified. (this is important because they would have made rules unchangeable, the chair unchallengeable and quorum 1/3 of those credentialed, since the vast majority there were pro-Paul due to his landslide victory at the Louisiana caucuses.

So in order to remove the chair there had to be three ignored, properly brought motions or points of order, which was easy to get since if they followed the rules the Paul delegates would have won. Here is a synopsis video although there are full videos available. the first 2:15 is boring, being people trying to bring points of information and motions under the rules, and being ignored by the chair in violation of Roberts Rules.

You can see what happened next, resulting in a slate of all but 5 Paul supporters being sent to RNC. The five were Romney delegates because of his showing in the primary. (LA held BOTH a primary and a caucus.)

Video synopsis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k884ZKUNwbo&feature=player_embedded#t=0s

windwardtack on June 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

I don’t get the Rand comments. Ron is the one with delegates.

windwardtack on June 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Given the zealotry of some Ronulans, would that not be a dangerous position to put Romney in?

I know this is a radical suggestion. Don’t ban me, bro.
I’m not endorsing the idea.

connertown on June 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM

We aren’t violent. It wasn’t THEIR guys who got punched in OK nor had fingers broken and artificial hips dislocated in LA. It was ours. We don’t back down, is all.

windwardtack on June 22, 2012 at 12:30 PM

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