Breaking: Issa’s House committee votes to hold Holder in contempt; Update: Obama’s compounding the tragedy, says Brian Terry’s family

posted at 4:43 pm on June 20, 2012 by Allahpundit

Next stop: The House floor for a vote by the full chamber. The Hill seems unsure about how many GOP votes it’ll get, but c’mon. Even recalcitrant Republicans who think a court battle with The One is a needless distraction have no choice but to go to the mat for Issa now that O’s pulled his power play with executive privilege.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, led by Republican Chairman Darrell Issa (Calif.), approved a resolution along party lines to place Holder in contempt after battling him for months over access to internal agency documents about the gun-tracking operation Fast and Furious…

Even with 242 Republicans in the House majority, it remains unclear whether the contempt measure would have the backing of the full caucus. Many GOP members have resisted action on the Fast and Furious issue out of a desire to keep the 2012 election focus on the economy and jobs…

If the measure against Holder passes the House, it would be sent to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, who would convene a grand jury that would decide whether to indict Holder. The U.S. Attorney’s office would be the designated prosecutor for the committee if Holder were to be indicted. The attorney general would face a maximum sentence of one year in prison if convicted by a jury.

Boehner just announced that the House will vote next week — unless, of course, O decides to play ball and turn over the documents Issa requested. Which, given that this is now a partisan death struggle in the middle of a campaign, I’m guessing he won’t do. What happens if the House votes yes? Three possibilities, according to CQ. One: The House could, er, have Holder arrested. Doubtful. Two, as noted in the Hill piece: Boehner and Issa could ask the DOJ to prosecute Holder. Since Holder runs the DOJ, let’s call that one doubtful too. Three: The House could file a civil lawsuit against Holder demanding the documents, at which point he and O would assert executive privilege and off we’d go to federal court for a constitutional battle over separation of powers. I would guess that you’ll see some sort of deal at that point since both sides will be leery of an adverse outcome. Obama doesn’t want a court ruling dropped on him in the last few months before the election compelling him to turn over damaging documents and the GOP doesn’t want to hand O a talking point about that damned obstructionist do-nothing Republican Congress sabotaging his progressive gunrunning scheme, etc, especially while Romney’s trying to get a word in edgewise about the misery of Obamanomics.

Multiple updates coming. Stand by.

Update: I saw chatter on Twitter this morning to the effect that Obama’s invocation of executive privilege proves that he must have been personally involved in Fast & Furious. Not so, apparently. At Breitbart, Ken Klukowski clarifies:

As I’ve written before, there are two types of executive privilege. One is a strong form rooted in the Constitution, called the presidential communication privilege. But there is another type, much weaker and rooted in common law instead of the Constitution, called the deliberative process privilege. That second, weaker variety is what President Obama invoked today regarding Holder.

It’s still the White House asserting the privilege, because only the president can assert executive privilege for his entire administration.

Shannen Coffin made the same point over at the Corner. The point of the “deliberative process privilege” is that you don’t want executive-branch officials afraid to be candid with each other in day to day operations for fear that their communications will later be subpoenaed by Congress and aired on the evening news. So Obama has an argument there; the counterargument is that, er, a privilege shouldn’t be abused as cover for hugely damaging and possibly illegal DOJ activity. Coffin thinks a court ruling on whether the privilege will be allowed here will turn on whether the documents are necessary to aid Congress in performing its lawmaking function. Granted, there’s no bill currently under consideration regarding gunrunning (I think), but there might well be in the future depending upon how bad this gets. As such, both Coffin and Klukowski think a court would rule to quash the privilege and make Obama turn over the documents — assuming we actually get that far.

Update: Needless to say, Brian Terry’s parents have had enough stalling on finding out how their son ended up being gunned down:

Terry family attorney Pat McGroder on Wednesday released the following statement from Terry’s parents Josephine Terry and Kent Terry Sr.: “Attorney General Eric Holder’s refusal to fully disclose the documents associated with Operation Fast and Furious and President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege serves to compound this tragedy. It denies the Terry family and the American people the truth.”

The Terrys said that their son “was killed by members of a Mexican drug cartel armed with weapons from this failed Justice Department gun trafficking investigation. For more than 18 months we have been asking our federal government for justice and accountability. The documents sought by the House Oversight Committee and associated with Operation Fast and Furious should be produced and turned over to the committee. Our son lost his life protecting this nation, and it is very disappointing that we are now faced with an administration that seems more concerned with protecting themselves rather than revealing the truth behind Operation Fast and Furious.”

The family of ICE agent Jaime Zapata, who was also killed with a gun involved in Fast & Furious, announced today that they’re filing a wrongful death suit against the DOJ and other federal agencies.

Update: Video fun via the Examiner of The One declaring in 2005 that the Attorney General is the people’s attorney, not the president’s. Huh. Are the people clamoring not to know how the rolling, murderous clusterfark known as Fast & Furious came to be?

Update: On a similar note, Mediaite dug up this nugget of Holder doing his “above politics” shtick in 2009:

I understand that the attorney general is different from every other cabinet officer. Though I am a part of the president’s team, I am not a part of the president’s team in the way that any other cabinet officer is. I have a special and unique responsibility.

There has to be a distance between me and the president. The president-elect said when he nominated me that he recognized that, that the attorney general was different from other cabinet officers.

Three years later, he’s running to Obama for an ass-covering assertion of privilege. Which O, fearing yet another major election-year headache, was only too happy to grant.

Update: Right on cue, via Newsbusters, there’s an MSNBC contributor insisting that the GOP is the loser in all this, not Obama and Holder. I do think there are misgivings among the leadership about pursuing this (Fox News is hearing that too), not only because it’ll push Romney off center stage but because I think Republicans in Congress are still shellshocked by the political beating they took when they went after Clinton in the late 1990s. But this train has now left the station: They’re going to proceed at least to the point of challenging his assertion of the privilege. Besides, how exactly does O spin this? “Can you believe these Republicans wasting America’s time by demanding to know about my gunrunning operation?”


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In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Many GOP members have resisted action on the Fast and Furious issue out of a desire to keep the 2012 election focus on the economy and jobs…

Shame on them.

The US Justice department is responsible for the deaths of hundreds from an action that was illegal in the first place, and they are now trying to cover it up along with the help of the complicit president… and these GOP fools do not want to pursue such travesties for political reasons? The founders must be rolling in their graves.

Furthermore, can they explain to me why they think that a scandal the potential size of Watergate that might go all the way to the top won’t hurt the president during an election, as the article insinuates?

Eschelon on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Andrea Tantaros is afraid of Beckel I think. Either that or she’s an eternal EEEEYOOOOORE. (or however you spell that).

….and if I see one more idiotic woman, right wing or left, wearing a hair bump I’m throwing my TV out the window. PLEASE for god sake, leave the hair bump things to the 11 year olds where it belongs.

Wolfmoon on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Just by Obama using the executive privilege everyone knows Obama is part of hiding something…guilty of at least helping a high level coverup most likely envolving himself.
Wasn’t the coverup what brought Nixon down?

Voters will notice Obama’s actions.

How is he going to answer all the questions about it during the Presidential debates?
Romney: Mr. President what are you hiding with your use of executive privilege in Fast & Furious? You said you would have a transparent administration; why did you break that campaign promise???
Obama: “Racist! I am covering for George Bush who is to blame for this!!!”

albill on June 20, 2012 at 5:36 PM

They say it isn’t so much the offense that brings a man/administration down, it’s the lying and coverup that follows.

scalleywag on June 20, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Holder isn’t going to jail you dumb azzes. Even if he was convicted, he would be pardoned by Obama. Get a clue. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be prosecuted. But stop hyperventilating like a bunch of Daily Kosers, circa 2007.

SuperBunny on June 20, 2012 at 5:36 PM

If the Dems start screaming racism and politics just ask them how many more Mexicans will die before they get to the bottom of this failed operation.

Ask the black caucus would they be turning a deaf ear if blacks were getting slaughtered in the streets. How about if the AG was white or Republican.

If I were Holder I would get a damn good attorney and a body guard. If this gets too close to Obama he may be literally thrown under the bus or do another Vince Foster.

banzaibob on June 20, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Sarah Palin ahead of the curve on this:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/10/sarah-palin-calls-for-eric-holder%E2%80%99s-immediate-resignation/

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM

What if there really is no connection to the White House on fast and furious but there is proof that Holder lied plus they want to make sure there is not independent counsel for White House inteligence leaks.

A little Quid Pro Quo. I’ll cover your ass as long as you cover mine.

WisRich on June 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Besides, how exactly does O spin this? “Can you believe these Republicans wasting America’s time by demanding to know about my gunrunning operation?”

He already spun the “water’s edge” with Romney. He’ll spin it with them too.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM

In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

I hope you are right, but I see no signs of it (yet)…

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Sharyl Atkisson from CBS has done amazing work on this and legitimately deserves a Pulitzer Prize.

Unless Les Moonves has her “promoted” to Cairo bureau chief.

Uh oh…

Rixon on June 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM

internal agency documents about the gun-tracking operation Fast and Furious…

Did I miss something? Where was the “tracking” part of this “gun-tracking” operation? Deny, deny, deny, then blow smoke as long as you can. “It was started under Bush!!1″

jdpaz on June 20, 2012 at 5:41 PM

In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Normally and generally I agree. With 0, you just can never be sure. If he thinks its to his political advantage all bets are off.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Sharyl Atkisson from CBS has done amazing work on this and legitimately deserves a Pulitzer Prize.

Rixon on June 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Well, it’s good to know there is at least one real journalist left in the MSM and on the Dan Rather ‘fake but accurate’ network, no less.

Corporal Tunnel on June 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM

The pincher move from the above:

The family of ICE agent Jaime Zapata, who was also killed with a gun involved in Fast & Furious, announced today that they’re filing a wrongful death suit against the DOJ and other federal agencies.

Mark

mailmars on June 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM

P.S. Love the Drudge cover.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Update: Right on cue, via Newsbusters, there’s an MSNBC contributor insisting that the GOP is the loser in all this, not Obama and Holder. I do think there are misgivings among the leadership about pursuing this (Fox News is hearing that too), not only because it’ll push Romney off center stage but because I think Republicans in Congress are still shellshocked by the political beating they took when they went after Clinton in the late 1990s.

Two words come to mind: “wishful” and “thinking”. This is not like the Lewinsky scandal. Yes, perjury and obstruction of justice aren’t trivial matters by themselves, but in the grand scheme of things, they didn’t really matter to the American people, particularly when the economy was booming at the time. Plus in the end, Clinton was lying about sex.

This is an entirely different scenario. It involves illegal gunrunning, dead Americans, hundreds of dead Mexicans, arming of Mexican drug cartels without the knowledge or input of the Mexican government with whom they are at war, and an attorney general with a record than can at best be called spotty. Plus all of this is occurring against the backdrop of a lousy economy.

If the Democrat-media complex want to keep deluding themselves about this being the same as 1998, let them. Something tells me the American public will be far less understanding of Obama and Holder’s plight when dead bodies are involved.

Doughboy on June 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM

In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

That would be just like Mr. President to throw him under the bus to try and save his own skin.

Those in the media who would like to say this is all political, this has been going on for 11 months or more, it didn’t just pop up. They’ve been stonewalling since the investigation began. A good president would insist we get to the bottom of it. He’d also insist on finding whoever is leaking security information but he seems to have no interest in that, either.

scalleywag on June 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Obamymandias.

drunyan8315 on June 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM

In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Yeah, but then who’ll oversee the polling places to make sure that no one voting Democrat is asked for i.d., and the New Black Panther patrols don’t feel intimidated?

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM

PEOPLE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF “FAST AND FURIOUS”. AND WHAT DO WE GET FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION?

“SO WHAT?!”

GarandFan on June 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Holder isn’t going anywhere. He knows where the bodies are buried. Obama is afraid of him and will support him and pardon him if necessary.

Kaffa on June 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM

GarandFan on June 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Not just the administration, either. Democratic Congressmen apparently not too interesting in finding justice, either. Or too cowardly to say so.

scalleywag on June 20, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Can’t wait for Tim Pawlenty’s tepid response.

SouthernGent on June 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM

What if there really is no connection to the White House on fast and furious but there is proof that Holder lied plus they want to make sure there is not independent counsel for White House inteligence leaks.

A little Quid Pro Quo. I’ll cover your ass as long as you cover mine.

WisRich on June 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM

After invoking Exec Priv,the connection has been established,otherwise it could not have been used.

hillsoftx on June 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Another Holder type, without the F & F baggage

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Holder isn’t going anywhere. He knows where the bodies are buried. Obama is afraid of him and will support him and pardon him if necessary.

Kaffa on June 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Good Point.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I fail to see a downside for Republican by going as far as possible with this.

ButterflyDragon on June 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Can you believe these Republicans wasting America’s time by demanding to know about my gunrunning operation?

heh. and the MSM will answer “What gunrunning operation?”

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Just checked out DU. There’s one small snippet from USA Today.

13 comments in the thread:

Why would Holder/Obama withhold the documents?

Just wondering.

The other 12 are essentially, meh, who cares.

Flora Duh on June 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Can’t wait for Tim Pawlenty’s tepid response.

SouthernGent on June 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Funny point. Lol!

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM

The family of ICE agent Jaime Zapata, who was also killed with a gun involved in Fast & Furious, announced today that they’re filing a wrongful death suit against the DOJ and other federal agencies.

good.

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 5:54 PM

So will Woodward and Bernstein be asked for their perspectives for the evening news broadcasts?

txmomof6 on June 20, 2012 at 5:12 PM

As I noted on another thread today, Bernstein looks like Buck Owens-just before he went to Hee Haw Heaven.

“They’re gonna put me on the tee-vee, they’re gonna make a big star out of me…”

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 5:55 PM

… off we’d go to federal court for a constitutional battle over separation of powers. I would guess that you’ll see some sort of deal at that point since both sides will be leery of an adverse outcome.

Unless he can’t, Allah. Unless he can’t.

Can’t as in the blood trail goes straight through Eric Holder to the Oval Office. Can’t as in disclosure of the documents is the political death knell of the Obama administration. Can’t as in senior admin officials going to prison for violating federal gun laws, obstruction of justice and conspiracy.

In fact, can’t seems to me to be the only reason that would justify the huge risks here. They are dirty, and they have nothing to lose by stonewalling, because giving up is the end of their careers, if not the beginning of their prison terms,anyway.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 5:55 PM

…but because I think Republicans in Congress are still shellshocked by the political beating they took when they went after Clinton in the late 1990s.

Allah, I think the subject matter will make a difference this time.

I think in 1999 it was the fact they Republicans were chasing after Clinton over getting his schwerve on with an intern. That didn’t result in any deaths or show any evidence of presidential corruption other than Slick Willy not being able to keep his slick willy in his shorts. I have to admit, I thought the GOP was making a bit more of a deal than they needed to over what Bill was doing with his weiner than was prudent or worth spending time on.

The fact that this scandal goes beyond a little hanky-panky misbehavior, and extends into out government letting guns walk to Mexican drug cartels and resulted in two LEO deaths and lord knows how many deaths of Mexican citizens, makes this an issue worthy of going to the mat for, I think.

gravityman on June 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Since NBC hasn’t really reported on this, then how will the public ever be fully informed?

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Sharyl Atkisson from CBS has done amazing work on this and legitimately deserves a Pulitzer Prize.

Rixon on June 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Well, it’s good to know there is at least one real journalist left in the MSM and on the Dan Rather ‘fake but accurate’ network, no less.

Corporal Tunnel on June 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM

She was tipped off about F & F by a couple of bloggers, and then was the first major news person to cover the story, back in March of 2011.

As for her getting the Pulitzer, don’t hold your breath.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Oy. Andrea Tantaros is on The Five

Your first mistake is watching FNC.
Your second mistake is announcing it in public.

Mr. Arrogant on June 20, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Since NBC hasn’t really reported on this, then how will the public ever be fully informed?

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM

They will now inform the public that Obama is Herculean, that Holder is a victim of you, a.s.f.

Oh, and that you are all racists.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:58 PM

June 20, 2012
Pelosi rips Holder contempt charges: ‘I could have arrested Karl Rove on any given day’

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/20/pelosi-rips-holder-contempt-charges-i-could-have-arrested-karl-rove-on-any-given-day/#ixzz1yNCeoalr

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Holder held in contempt. It’s completely deserved. Burn in Hell, buddy. And with any luck, you’ll take Obama with you.

Stoic Patriot on June 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM

I’m just looking forward to having Democrats on record as wanting to help cover up the murder of US LEOs.

BadgerHawk on June 20, 2012 at 6:01 PM

reap. sow.

/truth

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Republicans were chasing after Clinton over getting his schwerve on with an intern.

I thought they were chasing him over lying about getting his schwerve on.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Sharyl Atkisson from CBS has done amazing work on this and legitimately deserves a Pulitzer Prize.

Rixon on June 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM

She rec’d the Edward R Murrow Award couple weeks ago for her reporting on this debacle…

hillsoftx on June 20, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Do nothing Congress, obstructionist, it’s all about the economy. MSNBC must have cue cards sent from the White House on a daily basis. The fact of the matter is no one knows anything for sure as to what actually happened with F&F. But one thing is for sure and that is we have the right to know. It was our money spent on the operation, it was our citizens killed, it was our country not obeying International Laws and causing the death of thousands of Mexican citizens; so, I say yes, strongly pursue this matter. This will not hurt Romney’s chances of being elected, if anything it will help.

DDay on June 20, 2012 at 6:02 PM

What if there really is no connection to the White House on fast and furious but there is proof that Holder lied plus they want to make sure there is not independent counsel for White House inteligence leaks.

A little Quid Pro Quo. I’ll cover your ass as long as you cover mine.

WisRich on June 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM


White House intelligence leaks are a very real problem. It is not like these people are the brightest set of tacks in the pack and …

OH! You meant the release of intellience information.

Never Mind.

(With fond memories of Gilda Radner and Emily Latella)

PolAgnostic on June 20, 2012 at 6:02 PM

In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Holder knows too much to be thrown under the bus. On the other hand, I’m sure Team Obama can find at least as much cash as Marc Rich dropped on Holder and Clinton back in the day, so that might be how it’s done.

TXUS on June 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Pelosi rips Holder contempt charges: ‘I could have arrested Karl Rove on any given day’

OC, there are days when I wished she would have. / ; )

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Gee, who would have guessed that, forty years after the fact, we’d have a New New New New Nixon running the country!

Who cares what the “possibilities” are if the House votes yes. Any scandal is a good scandal. Put them on the defensive. Get this stuff in the papers, on the networks, into the public realm. Distract these clowns. Make them waste money, time, and resources on this instead of on reelection. Screw them.

Mr. Arkadin on June 20, 2012 at 6:04 PM

F&F: What Did The POTUS Know & When Did He Know It?

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/f-what-did-potus-know-when-did-he-know.html

M2RB: RUSH

Resist We Much on June 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM

She was tipped off about F & F by a couple of bloggers, and then was the first major news person to cover the story, back in March of 2011.

As for her getting the Pulitzer, don’t hold your breath.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 5:57 PM

I’m not aware that she ever gave any credit to the Sipsey Street Irregulars, or Bob Farago, who broke the story long before she wrote her first piece on it.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I just hope that Obama and Holder keep this up until AFTER the convention. Any implosion of the Obama campaign before that could, at least theoretically, be fixed by nominating another candidate at a negotiated convention. Best scenario is that Obama explodes after officially getting the nod from the democrats.

AverageJoe on June 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Holder isn’t going anywhere. He knows where the bodies are buried. Obama is afraid of him and will support him and pardon him if necessary.

Kaffa on June 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Let’s consider another angle, just to demonstrate what we don’t know.

What if Holder never wanted to do F&F, warned against it in writing, but was forced to do it by Valerie Jarrett? Now they are keeping him from revealing that to protect Jarrett and little Bammie. Imagine how that would be gnawing at Holder all these months.

Now it appears they may want him to “roll over for Obama”

/Hypothetical.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Doughboy on June 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM Took the thought right out of my head!!!! Well done!

tomshup on June 20, 2012 at 6:08 PM

In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

I disagree. I think Obama desperately needs Holder to keep all the skeletons in the closet. If Holder goes, and that leads to the release of the documents, the whole administration could crumble.

The Rogue Tomato on June 20, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Unless he can’t, Allah. Unless he can’t.

Can’t as in the blood trail goes straight through Eric Holder to the Oval Office. Can’t as in disclosure of the documents is the political death knell of the Obama administration. Can’t as in senior admin officials going to prison for violating federal gun laws, obstruction of justice and conspiracy.

In fact, can’t seems to me to be the only reason that would justify the huge risks here. They are dirty, and they have nothing to lose by stonewalling, because giving up is the end of their careers, if not the beginning of their prison terms,anyway.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Won’t the facts come out in a Romney administration? Won’t they have access to those documents?

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Mark Levin is immediately talking about this right now.

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 6:11 PM

United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974)
Ruled that the doctrine of executive privilege is legitimate, however the President cannot invoke it in criminal cases to withhold evidence

bayview on June 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Holder held in contempt. It’s completely deserved. Burn in Hell, buddy. And with any luck, you’ll take Obama with you.

Stoic Patriot on June 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM

He hasn’t been held in contempt, yet. Today’s vote was simply to push it out of committee onto the House floor where it’s supposedly going to be up for a full vote next week.

Flora Duh on June 20, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Pelosi rips Holder contempt charges: ‘I could have arrested Karl Rove on any given day’

Pelosi, you mean the Pelosi who lied about the CIA informing her about waterboarding? That Pelosi? The Pelosi who used insider information to enrich herself and her husband when legislation was going on about credit card charges? The Pelosi who is partially responsible for the trillions of dollars in debt and deficits we now face? Oh yea, she’s the pillar of honesty and character. People should listen to her. /

scalleywag on June 20, 2012 at 6:13 PM

I have to admit, I thought the GOP was making a bit more of a deal than they needed to over what Bill was doing with his weiner than was prudent or worth spending time on.

The fact that this scandal goes beyond a little hanky-panky misbehavior, and extends into out government letting guns walk to Mexican drug cartels and resulted in two LEO deaths and lord knows how many deaths of Mexican citizens, makes this an issue worthy of going to the mat for, I think.

gravityman on June 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Well, you have to remember that Clinton’s puppeteers, aided by their Democrat Media, brilliantly shifted the focus of the Clinton investigation from Clinton himself to his investigators. As a result, Clinton’s approval went up.

As a result, we never heard about how years earlier Clinton’s Justice Dept. had successfully prosecuted a female Federal employee for lying under oath about sex. That was what he was accused of, and yet his defenders said he was above the law.

Likewise the Democrat Media completely demonized the Special Prosecutor. Dr. Goebbels would be proud of them all.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 6:14 PM

the whole administration could crumble.

The Rogue Tomato on June 20, 2012 at 6:08 PM

One can only hope!

scalleywag on June 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Won’t the facts come out in a Romney administration? Won’t they have access to those documents?

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 6:09 PM

If the investigation drags on into a new administration, the hearings held by the 112th Congress become null & void. The investigation would have to start anew under the 113th Congress.

Flora Duh on June 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Anyone wanna bet that Clinton is “advising” Obama to stand his ground on this, because the contempt vote will backfire on Republicans the way the impeachment vote against Clinton did?

Hee hee.

Mr. Arkadin on June 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM

OC, there are days when I wished she would have. / ; )

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Yup…

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM

The Rogue Tomato on June 20, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Good. If he stays, he’s an albatross, if he goes, he is one too.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Can you believe these Republicans wasting America’s time by demanding to know about my gunrunning operation?

Haha, another classic bit of snark from AP.

scalleywag on June 20, 2012 at 6:18 PM

June 20, 2012
Pelosi rips Holder contempt charges: ‘I could have arrested Karl Rove on any given day’

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/20/pelosi-rips-holder-contempt-charges-i-could-have-arrested-karl-rove-on-any-given-day/#ixzz1yNCeoalr

OmahaConservative on June 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM

From your link:

It’s unclear if Pelosi is aware Rove did not serve in a Bush administration position that’s identical to Holder’s in the Obama administration. Rove was a senior policy adviser — a position that’s more similar to Valerie Jarrett’s or David Axelrod’s on President Barack Obama’s team. Holder is the attorney general, the top law enforcement official in the United States. Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami wouldn’t answer when The Daily Caller asked if Pelosi was aware of the distinction.

Claude Rains says Bonjour.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 6:19 PM

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Assuming there is one, maybe. Holder and Obama might try to do a Carol Browner on their way out the door. I bet they have more than F&F to hide. I bet they have the plans to destroy the evidence in place already.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 6:19 PM

United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974)
Ruled that the doctrine of executive privilege is legitimate, however the President cannot invoke it in criminal cases to withhold evidence

bayview on June 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM

More on that by J. Christian Adams: Executive Privilege Kicks Off Regular Season

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Harry Reid is focused on boxing regulations, I think F&F is worth Congressional time. Its not like they are trying to pass a budget in the last 3 years

burserker on June 20, 2012 at 6:22 PM

The end of the month, capping off a really crappy month anyway, does not look to be a good one for Barry. Unless the decisions come out tomorrow, next week will include SCOTUS handing down it’s decisions on SB 1070 and Obamacare in addition to the House vote on Holder’s Contempt of Congress Resolution.

Then the week after brings the June employment report with revisions to May, and April, again.

Dusty on June 20, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Many GOP members have resisted action on the Fast and Furious issue out of a desire to keep the 2012 election focus on the economy and jobs…

Shame on them.

The US Justice department is responsible for the deaths of hundreds from an action that was illegal in the first place, and they are now trying to cover it up along with the help of the complicit president… and these GOP fools do not want to pursue such travesties for political reasons? The founders must be rolling in their graves.

Furthermore, can they explain to me why they think that a scandal the potential size of Watergate that might go all the way to the top won’t hurt the president during an election, as the article insinuates?

Eschelon on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

I was going to say the same thing, so I’ll just re-paste your post. We fully expect the Dems to think politically when dealing with this issue, but Republicans need to do the right thing, and that is to get to the bottom of this for the sake of all who have been killed as a result of F&F.

Chuckie on June 20, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Hat tip: Right Scoop Unmistakeable evidence that F&F goes up to the White House. It seems clear to me, from this tape. Watch it and you’ll see why executive privilege was asserted.

totherightofthem on June 20, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Anyone wanna bet that Clinton is “advising” Obama to stand his ground on this, because the contempt vote will backfire on Republicans the way the impeachment vote against Clinton did?

Hee hee.

Mr. Arkadin on June 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Well, Clinton himself is delusional; he’s just not as delusional as O’bama and Holder are.

Clinton still believes he did nothing wrong, even though all of the evidence proves otherwise.

And he also believes that the Republicans “backfired”; the only reason he walked was because he and Hillary had those 900 FBI files. The Senate was too afraid to convict him.

But he was impeached, and he will never be able to erase that from his “legacy”, no matter how hard he tries. He’ll forever be known as The First Elected US President to be Impeached.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Three years later, he’s running to Obama for an ass-covering assertion of privilege. Which O, fearing yet another major election-year headache, was only too happy to grant.

What he certainly fears more is criminal liability…it was his show to begin with.

AUINSC on June 20, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Issa has an ace in the hole, a mole on the inside. He knows what the documents show, at least some of them. Another option is that the mole decides to come in from the cold, and testify. Probably could not provide the documents without legal cconsequences, but he/she could testify as to what went on with Fast and Furious.
At that point, DOJ and Oblamer would probably start destroying evidence (Fawn Hall, please pick up the white courtesy phone….), but the damage would be done. And that might have a multiplier effect, and others with a soul in DOJ might start talking.

OK, maybe a fantasy, but a plausible one.

iurockhead on June 20, 2012 at 5:12 PM

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Issa’s committee can provide immunity from prosecution to any witnesses they chose.

Having cast aside the last shred of cooperation, Holder has made it impossible for there to be any complaint that Congress would be hindering his investigation by doing so.

PolAgnostic on June 20, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Pelosi rips Holder contempt charges: ‘I could have arrested Karl Rove on any given day’

If Nancy Pelosi wants to publicly compare her party’s AG to Karl Rove, a figure only slightly less loathed on the left than W, more power to her. Keep talking, Nancy, keep talking.

Here is a question. Now that executive privilege has been invoked regarding the F&F documents, why not just jetison Holder? No matter what happens to him, can’t the docs still be withheld? If Obama throws Holder to the wolves, and focus is taken off the scandal itself, he does gain some advantage. It may be a mistake to make Holder the center of attention here. Someone help me out on this.

Mr. Arkadin on June 20, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Mr. Arkadin on June 20, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Is the idiot Holder willing to trash his career to save little Bammie and who else in the White House was involved? Is he a true believer like Webster Hubbell or is he a career man?

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Time for one of the super pacs to create the following video:

Obama’s War on Hispanics – Fast & Furious

bubbafromkc on June 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

along party lines

Disgusting.

And disgusting, also, Repub congressmen/women who don’t want to pursue the truth.

Politics is ugly.

davidk on June 20, 2012 at 6:34 PM

No. He claimed to be a black man with a partner. A writer. A teacher or professor.

oldroy on June 20, 2012 at 5:13 PM

‘Tenured Professor of the Humanities’….

BigWyo on June 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM


And I am a Tenured Snowflake in He11 …

… when I am not busy being AP’s sock puppet

PolAgnostic on June 20, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Just spent some time reading up on today’s happenings at Huffington Post. After a couple hours of watching the hearings and now HuffPo…..what …exactly….do we have to be shy about?

What would ever get into someone to be Eeyorish about conservatism. The lsft is a sham, and not even a very good one. Rush is right. Liberalism is a mental disease. We shouldn’t be apologetic about anything. The Boehner type leadership neads to go. The Issa/Chaffetz/Gowdy needs to stay.

This is not Bill Clinton getting a little something-something. This is intended consequences including death, to be used for political advantage. It is criminal. If the Republican leadership is squishy, no more needs to be said. The first resignations should be the Republicans that don’t want to stand for what is morally and lawfully right.

If we can’t keep the President of the US and the AG of the US from killing people for political advantage, then what are we? And if we are not allowed to see the docs that prove this one way or another, then any administration can do anything they want, whenever they want.

oldroy on June 20, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Your first mistake is watching FNC.
Your second mistake is announcing it in public.

Mr. Arrogant on June 20, 2012 at 5:58 PM

You’re either a funny comedian, or a person who’s stupid, uncomplimentary sn is a perfect match for your ridiculous mindset! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on June 20, 2012 at 6:37 PM

In spite of the odds, I predict Holder will be gone, soon, to get the subject changed. This is a big chain around Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

I respectfully disagree.

This is President Double Down’s consigliere you’re talking about. Holder ain’t goin’ nowhere, capice?

LaserBeam on June 20, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Can’t wait for Tim Pawlenty’s tepid response.
SouthernGent on June 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM

“It would not have been my style…”

Dongemaharu on June 20, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Oy. Andrea Tantaros is on The Five agreeing with Bob Beckel that this will backfire on the GOP.

BuckeyeSam on June 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM

I thought her reaction was odd- I would agree ONLY to the extent that it will take the focus off the economy briefly; however I think Romney can work it into all his arguements as to Obama’s honesty and competence as President. Fast and Furious is a big friggin’ deal and Barry’s administration is hiding something. That Andrea Tantaros isn’t all that smart anyway- she tends to follow basic party line arguements, without adding much of her own.

BettyRuth on June 20, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Disgusting.

And disgusting, also, Repub congressmen/women who don’t want to pursue the truth.

Politics is ugly.

davidk on June 20, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Issa is still conspiring with Boehner to throw us 0bamessiah’s bus, according to some…

Bizarro No. 1 on June 20, 2012 at 6:40 PM

totherightofthem on June 20, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Thanks for the linky. Nice.

Corporal Tunnel on June 20, 2012 at 6:40 PM

The Obama administration is a criminal gang that’s committing a crime spree, including the murder of hundreds, maybe even thousand of Mexicans. Back in the Old West, Obama’s and Holder’s pictures would have been on Wanted Posters and you know the kind I mean.

VorDaj on June 20, 2012 at 6:40 PM

The plausible deniability is gone

Aslo, Sec. Napolitano testified “90% of guns used in Mexican drug cartel can be traced back registered in US” (March, 2009) in this admin’s concerted effort to impose tough gun laws.

Sir Napsalot on June 20, 2012 at 6:40 PM

The Republicans are now ‘all-in’.

If they are not fully commited, and don’t see this to the end, then it looks exactly like what the Democrats are calling it – a politcal which-hunt. The only way that it appears to the masses to be otherwise, is for the Republicans to see this through to the end, and lay all the facts out on the table.

Mashman on June 20, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Well good for you Congress you finally showed a little (very little) backbone. But Holder and Obama are still giving you the finger. If you people don’t come together to take back your power from the dozens of federal agencies that have replace you by making law and put an end to executive privileged — you are still obsolete.

CONGRESS is meaningless with dozens of agencies and the president doing what ONLY Congress is Constitutionally authorized to do — and that’s to make laws.

If you don’t get a handle on it — then bye-bye and good riddance.

Axion on June 20, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Barack Capone and Eric Nitti.

VorDaj on June 20, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Video fun via the Examiner of The One declaring in 2005 that the Attorney General is the people’s attorney, not the president’s. Huh. Are the people clamoring not to know how the rolling, murderous clusterfark known as Fast & Furious came to be?

Is there any action that Obama takes now that we can’t see him directly contradicting earlier on a youtube video? Seriously.

He exercises executive privilege. Go to the videotape and watch him denounce executive privilege.

He exercises the authority to not enforce immigration laws. Let’s go to the videotape and watch him claim he doesn’t have the authority to do just that.

He needs the debt-ceiling raised. Just watch him earlier on video claim that needing the debt-ceiling raised was a failure of leadership.

He adds $5 trillion to the debt in 3 1/2 years. Let’s call up the video of him claiming Bush was “unpatriotic” for adding $5 trillion in 8 years.

And these are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. There are many more. Seriously, has this guy ever heard of this new website called YouTube? We can easily look up your prior statements to see what a hypocritical douche-bag you are.

JohnInCA on June 20, 2012 at 6:42 PM

C-BS waited 7 minutes to start covering this story, even though they broke it in the first place.

But to their credit, they not only covered the story from today, they then compared the use of Executive Privilege by Presidents in the past (Bill Clinton won by a landslide with 14), and then they brought in Sharyl Attkisson, who broke it in March of 2011. She recapped the whole saga.

All in all C-BS spent about 5 minutes. Which is probably 5 minutes more than NBC did.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 6:42 PM

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