Breaking: Issa’s House committee votes to hold Holder in contempt; Update: Obama’s compounding the tragedy, says Brian Terry’s family
posted at 4:43 pm on June 20, 2012 by Allahpundit
Next stop: The House floor for a vote by the full chamber. The Hill seems unsure about how many GOP votes it’ll get, but c’mon. Even recalcitrant Republicans who think a court battle with The One is a needless distraction have no choice but to go to the mat for Issa now that O’s pulled his power play with executive privilege.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, led by Republican Chairman Darrell Issa (Calif.), approved a resolution along party lines to place Holder in contempt after battling him for months over access to internal agency documents about the gun-tracking operation Fast and Furious…
Even with 242 Republicans in the House majority, it remains unclear whether the contempt measure would have the backing of the full caucus. Many GOP members have resisted action on the Fast and Furious issue out of a desire to keep the 2012 election focus on the economy and jobs…
If the measure against Holder passes the House, it would be sent to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, who would convene a grand jury that would decide whether to indict Holder. The U.S. Attorney’s office would be the designated prosecutor for the committee if Holder were to be indicted. The attorney general would face a maximum sentence of one year in prison if convicted by a jury.
Boehner just announced that the House will vote next week — unless, of course, O decides to play ball and turn over the documents Issa requested. Which, given that this is now a partisan death struggle in the middle of a campaign, I’m guessing he won’t do. What happens if the House votes yes? Three possibilities, according to CQ. One: The House could, er, have Holder arrested. Doubtful. Two, as noted in the Hill piece: Boehner and Issa could ask the DOJ to prosecute Holder. Since Holder runs the DOJ, let’s call that one doubtful too. Three: The House could file a civil lawsuit against Holder demanding the documents, at which point he and O would assert executive privilege and off we’d go to federal court for a constitutional battle over separation of powers. I would guess that you’ll see some sort of deal at that point since both sides will be leery of an adverse outcome. Obama doesn’t want a court ruling dropped on him in the last few months before the election compelling him to turn over damaging documents and the GOP doesn’t want to hand O a talking point about that damned obstructionist do-nothing Republican Congress sabotaging his progressive gunrunning scheme, etc, especially while Romney’s trying to get a word in edgewise about the misery of Obamanomics.
Multiple updates coming. Stand by.
Update: I saw chatter on Twitter this morning to the effect that Obama’s invocation of executive privilege proves that he must have been personally involved in Fast & Furious. Not so, apparently. At Breitbart, Ken Klukowski clarifies:
As I’ve written before, there are two types of executive privilege. One is a strong form rooted in the Constitution, called the presidential communication privilege. But there is another type, much weaker and rooted in common law instead of the Constitution, called the deliberative process privilege. That second, weaker variety is what President Obama invoked today regarding Holder.
It’s still the White House asserting the privilege, because only the president can assert executive privilege for his entire administration.
Shannen Coffin made the same point over at the Corner. The point of the “deliberative process privilege” is that you don’t want executive-branch officials afraid to be candid with each other in day to day operations for fear that their communications will later be subpoenaed by Congress and aired on the evening news. So Obama has an argument there; the counterargument is that, er, a privilege shouldn’t be abused as cover for hugely damaging and possibly illegal DOJ activity. Coffin thinks a court ruling on whether the privilege will be allowed here will turn on whether the documents are necessary to aid Congress in performing its lawmaking function. Granted, there’s no bill currently under consideration regarding gunrunning (I think), but there might well be in the future depending upon how bad this gets. As such, both Coffin and Klukowski think a court would rule to quash the privilege and make Obama turn over the documents — assuming we actually get that far.
Update: Needless to say, Brian Terry’s parents have had enough stalling on finding out how their son ended up being gunned down:
Terry family attorney Pat McGroder on Wednesday released the following statement from Terry’s parents Josephine Terry and Kent Terry Sr.: “Attorney General Eric Holder’s refusal to fully disclose the documents associated with Operation Fast and Furious and President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege serves to compound this tragedy. It denies the Terry family and the American people the truth.”
The Terrys said that their son “was killed by members of a Mexican drug cartel armed with weapons from this failed Justice Department gun trafficking investigation. For more than 18 months we have been asking our federal government for justice and accountability. The documents sought by the House Oversight Committee and associated with Operation Fast and Furious should be produced and turned over to the committee. Our son lost his life protecting this nation, and it is very disappointing that we are now faced with an administration that seems more concerned with protecting themselves rather than revealing the truth behind Operation Fast and Furious.”
The family of ICE agent Jaime Zapata, who was also killed with a gun involved in Fast & Furious, announced today that they’re filing a wrongful death suit against the DOJ and other federal agencies.
Update: Video fun via the Examiner of The One declaring in 2005 that the Attorney General is the people’s attorney, not the president’s. Huh. Are the people clamoring not to know how the rolling, murderous clusterfark known as Fast & Furious came to be?
Update: On a similar note, Mediaite dug up this nugget of Holder doing his “above politics” shtick in 2009:
I understand that the attorney general is different from every other cabinet officer. Though I am a part of the president’s team, I am not a part of the president’s team in the way that any other cabinet officer is. I have a special and unique responsibility.
There has to be a distance between me and the president. The president-elect said when he nominated me that he recognized that, that the attorney general was different from other cabinet officers.
Three years later, he’s running to Obama for an ass-covering assertion of privilege. Which O, fearing yet another major election-year headache, was only too happy to grant.
Update: Right on cue, via Newsbusters, there’s an MSNBC contributor insisting that the GOP is the loser in all this, not Obama and Holder. I do think there are misgivings among the leadership about pursuing this (Fox News is hearing that too), not only because it’ll push Romney off center stage but because I think Republicans in Congress are still shellshocked by the political beating they took when they went after Clinton in the late 1990s. But this train has now left the station: They’re going to proceed at least to the point of challenging his assertion of the privilege. Besides, how exactly does O spin this? “Can you believe these Republicans wasting America’s time by demanding to know about my gunrunning operation?”
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I don’t need the WaPo to tell me that Eric Holder lied thoughout his testimony to Issa’s committee and many times before that…We have thugs at the helm of our govenment and they are in bed with the American media.
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM
i wasn’t even there that day, i calle din sick. That would have been a better line to use.
phatfawzi on May 17, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Carnac the Magnificent holds the envelope to his head:
“What will phatfawzi write in his comment?”
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Well, shoot, they fixed it.
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM
with all the shaking of my head that I did this week, just can’t wait to see what Friday’s document dump is going to be!!
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Is it still America?
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Is it still America?
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM
What’s in a name? Is it still the Constitution? Not according to the liberal liars that abuse it however they see fit. And their voters keep stepping up for more…That’s the problem with America. I no longer blame the Tyrants in charge, I blame everyone that voted for them. Low-Information or not.
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 1:47 PM
in other words, “They are who we thought they were!”
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 1:48 PM
On topic, on all threads.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Of course Eric lied. His lips were moving.
GarandFan on May 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM
That’s the question isn’t it?
I was in the last years of the cold war.. and while I’m always going to be proud of my tiny microscopic contribution to that struggle.. The question in my mind, did I enlist, then lose half my hearing and an eye injury (which still plaques me) resulting in a Honorable medical discharge,…
for this?
To be considered an enemy of the State by the government I enlisted to protect?
and what of the wounded vets who gave up so very much more and fall into the “thought crime” category? What’s going through their heads right now..
“thank you for your service.. now SHUT UP, up against the wall repuglican”…
Obama has turned any trust left in the fairness of ANY agency to sh*t, and all in one fell swoop…
mark81150 on May 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Holder: I don’t feel like prosecuting myself, so I won’t. And since I’m the Attorney General and deserve respect, I won’t let anyone else prosecute me either! So there!!! (Sticks out tongue, Bronx cheer)
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Ok. That’s it. Head exploded near last paragraph. Sorry for the mess.
Tsar of Earth on May 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
mark81150,
I come from a long family of military.
I’m struggling with advice to my son who is entering HS. I really can’t see recommnding serving this regime or the next one Hillary.
I won’t denigrate the service but I sure won’t sugggest or prod him toward that path.
I figure he will serve his country enough paying back the $17,000,000,000,000 bill run up by DC.
acyl72 on May 17, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Ed,
Loudly, clearly, on every occasion: To attack Syria to bump the investigations from headlines = huge flagrant abuse of power.
Must be in advance, repeatedly, where Americans can hear it. That fox channel doesn’t count. Afterward is too late.
kunegetikos on May 17, 2013 at 2:33 PM
My son is 11,.. and already asking about my service time a lot, and while I won’t push him either way, let him come to his own choice as you are..
I know exactly what you’re saying..
There isn’t a military family in America that hasn’t known the terrible price of service, My wife’s family sent 4 young men, cousins to Iraq, and Afghansitan, one young man had his head taken off by an RPG.. I’ had three friends, one in the 4th Infantry, met him while he was a recruiter, he made it through his first tour..
and I found out a few weeks ago, he didn’t retire as he told me he would..
He didn’t make it..
and I still feel sick over it.
So what do we tell our sons, daughters?
Serve,.. but expect to return to a two class system, one for the favored THINK, the other,.. those…… people..
I have always have and still love my country.. .
but a national divorce seems less awful than it used to.
mark81150 on May 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM
The repetition of “I dunno” makes me think of this. It’s brain damage!
GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:38 PM
So… Holder doesn’t know anything and recused himself from an investigation because he “had knowledge”. ‘kay….
ghostwalker1 on May 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM
Give Holder’s deputy, Mr. Machen, a break. After all, who wants to be called a racist for prosecuting a black guy?
BigAlSouth on May 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM
If Holder can’t make a decision for his own Department then what good is he? The direction of delegation is not down unless that is how Congress tells you to do it… it goes in the other direction by the person who had the power to put you in that position. Responsibility flows up via accountability.
Holder is trying to deny both and that is a FAIL.
Attacking the First Amendment rights of citizens, which is the freedom of speech and against unwarranted searches and seizures, is unconstitutional. Not that these fine fuhrers think much of that document to which they swear an oath. Nor about their oath’s, apparently.
Oathbreakers.
Tyrants.
Despots.
Welcome to the Obama Administration.
ajacksonian on May 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Race card laminated with Teflon.
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM