Breaking: Eric Holder asks for executive privilege on subpoenaed F&F documents; Update: And gets it

posted at 10:36 am on June 20, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

What in the sam hill is in these documents?

Last night, Chairman Darrell Issa declared that Attorney General Eric Holder had failed to provide sufficient documentation or a worthwhile-enough ‘briefing’ to forestall today’s scheduled contempt proceedings. Ahead of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s vote this morning, Holder finally decided to go straight to the top and ask his boss to invoke executive privilege on the outstanding documents included in last October’s Congressional subpoena. From Katie Pavlich, live on the Hill:

Just 15 minutes before the House Oversight Committee vote against Attorney General Eric Holder takes place, the Department of Justice has asked the White House to insert Executive Privilege for all Operation Fast and Furious documents according to Chairman Issa’s press secretary Becca Watkins.

Fox News is reporting that The Most Transparent Administration Ever has granted Holder’s request and will indeed allow him executive privilege to withhold the documents.

President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against Holder by Republicans in the House.

Executive privilege is not a common tactic — the president’s authority can still be overturned (don’t you just love checks and balances?), but this could mean a showdown between our several branches of government. Doesn’t exactly do much to bolster the White House’s story that ‘this isn’t a cover-up’ and ‘the higher-ups were uninvolved in this operation,’ does it?

Regardless, the contempt vote is scheduled to move forward. If the Oversight Committee votes yes (and it looks like they will), that moves the proceedings over to the House. If the full House votes to hold Holder in contempt, it goes to a grand jury, and if a grand jury indicts Holder, it goes to trial.

Updates to follow…

Update: It appears that Eric Holder sent his letter to the White House requesting executive privilege last night, and this morning, Deputy Attorney General James Cole sent a letter to Chairman Issa informing the Committee of the White House’s assent.

Dear Mr. Chairman:

After you rejected the Department’s recent offers of additional accommodations, you stated that the Committee intends to proceed with its scheduled meeting to consider a resolution citing the Attorney General for contempt for failing to comply with the Committee’s subpoena of October 11, 2011. I write now to inform you that the President has asserted executive privilege over the relevant post-February 4, 2011, documents.

We regret that we have arrived at this point, after the many steps we have taken to address the Committee’s concerns and to accommodate the Committee’s legitimate oversight interests regarding Operation Fast and Furious. Although we are deeply disappointed that the Committee appears intent on proceeding with a contempt vote, the Department remains willing
to work with the Committee to reach a mutually satisfactory resolution of the outstanding issues.

Here’s another thought: Invoking executive privilege on this case is going to come off as a very dodgy and arrogant move. But the White House is willing to take on that bad press, and I can only presume that’s because whatever is in those documents… is much more damning than the alternative. Oh, the tangled webs we weave!

Update: The blogosphere has often lamented about the mainstream media’s lack of consistent interest in the deadly Fast and Furious scandal — they wouldn’t want to report too thoroughly on anything that might harm their darling president’s image, you know. But President Obama asserting his supreme authority into the fray has made this the top story of the day. Just search for breaking news related to “executive privilege.” It’s exploding. Heh. No more sweeping this under the rug now.


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Brian Terry
Jaime Zapata
200-300 unnamed Mexicans.

all of them…..unavailable for comment.

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

7600 out of 140,000 is 5%. That leaves 95%. You’re so stupid that you can’t even do basic math? Or do you know so little about this investigation that you enjoy swimming in ignorance? I’m guessing a little of both.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Issa said on Greta the other night that roughly half of what the idiot Holder has turned over dates back to the administration of President George W. Bush. The idiot Holder just dumped that stuff in to bulk up the package.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Aside from the suggestion that there’s something we don’t know and we do not what that is…what is suspected? What is alleged?

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Wow. Just a summary of what is alleged: 300 or so Mexican Citizens dead. Grenade attack at Mexican casino. Dead US border agent and dead US ICE agent. All brought to you by this administration in order to get assault weapons banned.

Understand now?

oldroy on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Jackie Speier: “Nobody needs an assault rifle in this country. That’s the real issue.”

Slimef**k.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

its not illegal when the president does it…or something.

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

What didn’t Barack know and when didn’t he know it?

profitsbeard on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

7600 out of 140,000 is 5%. That leaves 95%. You’re so stupid that you can’t even do basic math?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Man, you can be unpleasant.
I’ll phrase this differently that you would –
I believe you didn’t quite follow what I said.
Read again – this part twice:
Why not expand the request so that one could say ’500%’?

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Fastandfuriousinvestigation.com for anyone who wants to follow live.

Recommend following @DarryllIsaa on Twitter also.

BadgerHawk on June 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM

If the president didn’t know anything, then what is there to exert executive privilege over???

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM

When Barak Obama was elected, I figured a Jimmy Carter presidency was a best-case scenario.

I had no idea we were on the road to a Richard Nixon best-case scenario.

Lily on June 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Why do you let so many threads die after you present your data and/or open ended argument?

rogerb on June 14, 2012 at 11:37 PM

 

Which threads are those?

libfreeordie on June 14, 2012 at 11:44 PM

rogerb on June 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Speier can’t shut her big mouth. She just cited the tape erasures during Watergate. Hey Jackie, Holder himself cited US vs. Nixon in getting Executive Privilege. You’re not helping.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Rep. Speier (D-CA 12): There needs to be an investigation into how the ATF operates under any administration… If Agent Terry had not been murdered, how would he even know about Fast & Furious today?

Wow. San Mateo/San Francisco/Burlingame rep.

But asked a direct question about whether, if she believes what she just says, she’d like to see the documents, she stonewalls.

She adds, “We’ve got a rogue operation in ATF.” Denies anyone in the Executive knew about it. Follow-up question, “don’t you want to see the documents that could confirm that?” Stonewalls.

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM

And why say ’95%’?

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

7600 out of 140,000 is 5%. That leaves 95%. You’re so stupid that you can’t even do basic math? Or do you know so little about this investigation that you enjoy swimming in ignorance? I’m guessing a little of both.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

verbaluce is one of libfeeordie’s students. She taught him well.

Yoop on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Man, you can be unpleasant.

Man, you can be whiny.

Why not expand the request so that one could say ’500%’?

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Well, if this were purely political, they would. They haven’t, because it’s not.

Now let me ask you: if this is purely political, why is Obama invoking EP, hmmm?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

economy worse than Carter, scandals worse than Nixon.

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Nice to know nobody’s going off the deep end here.

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Those who suppress their emotions bore me.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Just curious Verby, do you believe one should just accept total corruption, even in the face of a murdered American and hundreds of murdered Mexicans, without reacting? Are you that much of a partisan hack?
Simply amazing.

(PS-Madison, you are calmer than I am right now, WTG)

JusDreamin on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Nice Nixon/Obama photoshop on Drudge. hahahaha

faraway on June 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Heh, at least we can now type out SCoaMF without the implied obscenity.

Stuttering Crook of a Miserable Failure!

MNHawk on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Speier can’t shut her big mouth. She just cited the tape erasures during Watergate. Hey Jackie, Holder himself cited US vs. Nixon in getting Executive Privilege. You’re not helping.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Don’t interrupt your enemy while they’re shooting themselves in the foot.

Today’s circus should be the fodder for tons of campaign ads already and we haven’t even gotten out of committee yet.

teke184 on June 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I am not a crook.

faraway on June 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Man, I can be dense.

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Quit while you’re behind, spud.

MNHawk on June 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

So they requested 140,000 documents, just so that they could get their hands on them and find…nothing?

I’ve seen tops that don’t spin as well as you, my friend.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Ok, I’ll clarify this one for you too.
I’m saying you ask for that which you know you can’t have or very very unlikely to get – so that you can than shout ‘obstruction’ and ‘contempt’.
(If you going to challenge/argue against me…at least start with proper comprehension of my points. I can take the name calling, but…)

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Read again – this part twice:
Why not expand the request so that one could say ’500%’?

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Haha. You are an utter moron.

Chuck Schick on June 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Has anyone checked to see if Vin Diesel shows up on the WH visitor logs? Seems like the obvious angle of investigation here.

I.M. Shatner on June 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Bad move on the White House part,,, unless of course … doh!

Obie is going down fast.. and he keeps piling it on ..

RockyJ. on June 20, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Now let me ask you: if this is purely political, why is Obama invoking EP, hmmm?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Obama is also a politician, holding political office.

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

verbaluce is one of libfeeordie’s students. She taught him well.

Yoop on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Indeed, dumb and dumber .)….

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Wooohoooo. F&F has made the New York Slimes: President Asserts Executive Privilege in Bid to Forestall Contempt Vote

[petefrt on June 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM]

This ending is interesting:

But Mr. Cole, in his letter, said the department had already “substantially complied” with the subpoena.

“The documents responsive to the remaining subpoena items pertain to sensitive law enforcement activities, including ongoing criminal investigations and prosecutions, or were generated by department officials in the course of responding to Congressional investigations or media inquiries about this matter that are generally not appropriate for disclosure,” he said.

It appears Obama’s EP assertion is nothing more than a distraction. Now, the assertion still merits Erika’s “What in the sam hill is in these documents?” but the documents Holder requested be declared EP (and Obama asserted) are not a part of the Contempt Resolution. Those docs were removed from the Resolution last Friday, four days before Holder requested the EP. (This aspect has been mentioned several time in the hearing going on now.)

The NYT excerpt above refers to the remaining documents that are in the Contempt Resolution and not covered by the assertion of EP.

As I said before, WTF? Why did this request and assertion ever happen? Is it something more than Holder’s propensity to not read stuff (cue Holder’s SB1070 admission)?

Dusty on June 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Rep. Paul Labrador (R- Idaho 1): The key questions have always been what did this administration know and when did they know it. We’ve been asking these questions for a year and a half.

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Well, if this were purely political, they would. They haven’t, because it’s not.

You actually believe that don’t you. Stunning.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

“This is the Barack Obama we voted for.” (Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.)

Indeed.

GrannyDee on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Ok, I’ll clarify this one for you too.
I’m saying you ask for that which you know you can’t have or very very unlikely to get – so that you can than shout ‘obstruction’ and ‘contempt’.
(If you going to challenge/argue against me…at least start with proper comprehension of my points. I can take the name calling, but…)

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

That premise is a fallacy – this goes to court Congress get’s the documents they “subpoenaed” the DOJ for in the first place.

All Holder is doing is stalling.

Dr Evil on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Can someone please close off the tag?

faraway on June 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Can someone please close off the ‘center’ tag?

faraway on June 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM

(If you going to challenge/argue against me…at least start with proper comprehension of my points. I can take the name calling, but…)

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

How can one “properly comprehend’ something that is absurd/preposterous??

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Now let me ask you: if this is purely political, why is Obama invoking EP, hmmm?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Because EP has become a tool for Presidential Administrations to avoid revealing potentially unpleasant things to the public and has been used as such for quite a while now. You’re being particularly dense and ragey today.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

If this takes out Obama before the Dem convention, who do they nominate to take over for him?

Hillary can’t really do it if she’s caught up in it as SecState.

teke184 on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Read again – this part twice:
Why not expand the request so that one could say ’500%’?

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

It’s a math issue. You need to go back to the community college and ask your professor to explain it to you.

You see. 100% is the largest number you could have in this instance.

oldroy on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Obama is also a politician, holding political office.

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

So you’re saying his usage of this is also political? That’s he’s abusing this power?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Rep. Paul Labrador (R- Idaho 1) clarifies that Holder’s “reasonable request” (characterized by the Committee Dems in their speeches so far) was that any contempt considerations be dropped in exchange for his promise to provide some more documents. Rep. Labrador does not find this “reasonable.” He calls for Holder’s immediate resignation.

“He has prevented this Committee from discovering the simple truth of ‘what happened.’”… Never in all my life have a heard a man (Holder) more unconcerned with the search for truth.”

“Mr. Holder is either not telling the truth, or he is grossly incompetent.”

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Brian Terry
Jaime Zapata
200-300 unnamed Mexicans.

all of them…..unavailable for comment.

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Just broken eggs for the omlette to Obama, Holder, and the MSM.

magicbeans on June 20, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Brian Terry’s family speaking out. Facebook and a radio talk show in Philadelphia. They haven’t said too much before. This was on Fox a few minutes ago.

bluefox on June 20, 2012 at 1:12 PM

I don’t know if there’s even any reason to look up “precedents” for anything done by a President who prides himself on breaking them.

But how can executive privilege POSSIBLY apply to discovery? If it does then, for all practical purposes, there is absolutely no limit to a President’s power.

Without discovery, Congressional hearings of anything involving the executive branch are a complete waste of time. If Congress doesn’t impeach over this, then it has officially abdicated.

logis on June 20, 2012 at 1:12 PM

It must suck having to defend an Obama flip-flop, lack of transparency, and the coverup of hundreds of murders all at the same time.

Good luck, lefties.

BadgerHawk on June 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

You actually believe that don’t you. Stunning.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

You’re actually callous about Brian Terry’s death. Disgusting.

kingsjester on June 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Not inconsistent at all, its been covered on national news, and revealed to be a non-issue. The constant persistence in the face of no one caring is the point.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Because in the liberal mind…

Mexican drug cartels are our friends…
Dead Mexicans are good…
Dead Americans are better…
Disarmed Americans are the goal…
A socialist society with liberal elite rulers is UTOPIA!

When all is going to plan, of course its a non-issue to liberals. I understand your viewpoint exactly. I’m just completely opposed to it as a conservative!

dominigan on June 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Brian Terry
Jaime Zapata
200-300 unnamed Mexicans.

all of them…..unavailable for comment.

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Democrats are OK with drug lords and gangs having full automatic weapons.

That’s basically what this comes down to.

tetriskid on June 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Can someone please close off the ‘center’ tag?

faraway on June 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Don’t see it here. Clear your browser cache and see if it helps.

oldroy on June 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

It’s so important that Mexicans not be deported that Obooba circumvents the Constitution and congress to help pander to them.

Hundreds of dead Mexicans killed in their own country by guns the Obomunists gave narcoterrorists… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

Akzed on June 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

“He has prevented this Committee from discovering the simple truth of ‘what happened.’”… Never in all my life have a heard a man (Holder) more unconcerned with the search for truth.”
de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Poor choice of words there.

Eric Holder is obviously very VERY concerned about the search for truth.

logis on June 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Because EP has become a tool for Presidential Administrations to avoid revealing potentially unpleasant things to the public and has been used as such for quite a while now.

Potentially unpleasant things that they are involved in. Which means President Obama is involved in the murder of Brian Terry, as well as the murders of hundreds of Mexican nationals. Oh, that’s right. You don’t give a f**k, because he’s all hopeychangey.

You’re being particularly dense and ragey today.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

The f**knut who is claiming that this isn’t a legit scandal, months after admitting it was, and who has refused to explain when it ceased to be a legit scandal…is calling me dense. You pathetic dunce.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:15 PM

unpleasant things

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Like dead Border Patrol agents.

Like back-door efforts to disarm law-abiding citizens.

CurtZHP on June 20, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Well, if this were purely political, they would. They haven’t, because it’s not.

 
You actually believe that don’t you. Stunning.
 
libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

 
The neat part is how you just admitted executive privilege is being enacted solely for political gain.
 
Well done.

rogerb on June 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

You actually believe that don’t you. Stunning.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

You still haven’t had the balls to tell us how Fast and Furious went from being a “legit scandal” — YOUR words — to not being a “legit scandal”. Step up or shut up, you weasel.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Democrats are OK with drug lords and gangs having full automatic weapons.

That’s basically what this comes down to.

tetriskid on June 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Only if it leads to you & I not being able to have anything that goes “Bang!”.

roy_batty on June 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Obama is also a politician, holding political office.

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

So you’re saying his usage of this is also political? That’s he’s abusing this power?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:11

GIve him enough rope….he knows what to do with it :)..

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Obama and his cronies can be voted out in 4 months. And you want to focus on this?

faraway on June 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Nah, you’re right. Let’s let them get away with murder. Ohh, nooos, we can’t rock the boat. People might think we’re raaaacist.

Right Mover on June 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

The constant persistence in the face of no one caring is the point.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Translated:

My SugarDaddy keep giving me that $9 check to buy birth control, I don’t give a flying fluke how many dead Mexicans have resulted from this. They’re just Mexicans after all. And a pig cop.

MNHawk on June 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM

I don’t know if there’s even any reason to look up “precedents” for anything done by a President who prides himself on breaking them.

But how can executive privilege POSSIBLY apply to discovery? If it does then, for all practical purposes, there is absolutely no limit to a President’s power.

Without discovery, Congressional hearings of anything involving the executive branch are a complete waste of time. If Congress doesn’t impeach over this, then it has officially abdicated.

logis on June 20, 2012 at 1:12 PM

If I were Issa, I would dismiss the claim of Executive Privilege unless President Obama agreed to testify in Congress as to WHY it should apply over AG Holder, the Congress-approved head of a department funded by Congress. Make Obama testify in Congress.

dominigan on June 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM

The neat part is how you just admitted executive privilege is being enacted solely for political gain.

Well done.

rogerb on June 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

It would be neater if I hadn’t said on this very page that all uses of EP are inherently political.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA 3): Why are these documents being withheld from us?…. There’s something wrong here… there’s something that doesn’t feel right. If it was not political, why wouldn’t we be getting these documents?

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Voting based on skin color really seems to be a bad idea.

Hening on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

I’m saying you ask for that which you know you can’t have or very very unlikely to get – so that you can than shout ‘obstruction’ and ‘contempt’.

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Go ahead and tell us why a Congressional committee conducting an investigation into misconduct on the part of the Justice Department can’t have/is unlikely to get Justice Department documents pertinent to the investigation.

When you calculate that “why”, be sure to give us an actual reason — a legitimate, explainable reason — not simply “because this is all political”.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM

This clusterfluke amounts to illegal clandestine war, accomplice to mass murder, and sedition.

If it went no higher than Holder, why would Obooba defend him? He has had no trouble tossing his former pastor and grandmother under the bus along with dozens of others.

Obooba defends Holder because if he abandons him, Holder would be given every incentive to sing like a bird about his partners in crime, including our FUBAR POTUS.

Akzed on June 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM

It would be neater if I hadn’t said on this very page that all uses of EP are inherently political.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Waiting for you to explain that baffling nonsequiter, as well.

However, you seem to have lost interest in explaining your ridiculous statements. Wonder why?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

You still haven’t had the balls to tell us how Fast and Furious went from being a “legit scandal” — YOUR words — to not being a “legit scandal”. Step up or shut up, you weasel.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened. A poorly run sting operation left too many federally marked firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Rep. Kelly: We get countless documents about Wide Receiver, but when we ask for documents about Fast & Furious, “we won’t give those to you.”… If the AG didn’t want to have to go through, why wouldn’t he give us the documents. Is this political? Absolutely right it’s political.”

Recess called. House vote scheduled on the floor. Committee to reconvene 10 minutes after House floor vote. Committee then to vote on holding Holder in contempt.

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Bout time GOP. Bout darn time. Been watching this for 1.5 years since bloggers broke it.

You actually believe that don’t you. Stunning.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Aww, welcome back! So, is it still a minor non scandal with a silly name? Better get in the car with vin-holder and run for the border with that executive privilege.

oryguncon on June 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Obooba defends Holder because if he abandons him, Holder would be given every incentive to sing like a bird about his partners in crime, including our FUBAR POTUS.

Akzed on June 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM

And it couldn’t happen to a more deserving person.

kingsjester on June 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

The Committee is in recess (lack of Quorum) until shortly after 1:40PM, when they will then reconvene to vote.

Dusty on June 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened. A poorly run sting operation left too many federally marked firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Oh, I don’t know. Maybe we need to know…who was responsible?

Is there a reason you think that’s unimportant? Oh, that’s right. Accountability is hard.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

SHOCKING NEWS DEVELOPMENT… Fast and furious contempt hears adjourned to recess because DEMOCRATS flee hearing chambers to postpone vote.

Wisconsin flee bagging tactics again…

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Voting based on skin color really seems to be a bad idea.

Hening on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

But “history was made”.

Yakko77 on June 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM

What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

We need to know why DOJ initially palmed it off as an Arizona bureau affair, then acknowledged that higher DOJ officials knew about F&F even before Special Agent Terry was murdered, and now why this all falls under Executive Privilege, which by definition means the White House is involved as well.

Aren’t you even in the least curious…?

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened. A poorly run sting operation left too many federally marked firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Why has it completely run its course? Because your President is about to be nailed by it?

kingsjester on June 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened. A poorly run sting operation left too many federally marked firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

well, the president appears to disagree. If it had “completely” run its course….why the EP??? It was not a poorly run sting operation. It was an effective transfer of illegally sold weapons to drug cartels who ended up murdering real human beings–TWO US federal agents to be exact plus 200-300 Mexicans. The only thing stung there are the victims.

ted c on June 20, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I am amazed at what is going on in DC.
Let’s face it, there will be no Contempt Charges , Boehner will not have the balls to move it forward if they do charge nombnuts with contempt and the MSM will spin this against Republicans and Obama wins reelection in November. We are all just a bunch of fools.

SayNo2-O on June 20, 2012 at 1:25 PM

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened. A poorly run sting operation left too many federally marked firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. What more do we need to know? libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

We need to know who gets sentenced to death for conducting an illegal clandestine war, being an accomplice to mass murder, and sedition.

Akzed on June 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM

This can’t be your first congressional committee road show….right?

verbaluce on June 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Where is today’s Woodward and Bernstein? They did a good job 40 years ago but they’re still patting each other on the back and taking victory laps on 60 Minutes. Someone should be tracking the current scandals that are developing on a daily basis at the White House. Certainly there’s another one or two self-centered reporters in the MSM willing to take on the system in order to pursue fame and fortune.

HoosierStateofMind on June 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM

This generation, it is the bloggers that will do the heavy lifting. Proggies own 95% of the old media, and the 5% that they don’t own has been cowed by 95%.

Woodstein were overrated anyway.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM

lol, “Woodstein”. A+

Nowadays, Bernstein looks remarkably like Buck Owens. Just before he went to Hee-Haw Heaven.

As for the bloggers, we have a few doing yeoman heavy lifting, like the guys over at Power Line. Remember, they were major players in bringing down Dan Rather.

And our Hot Gas crew ain’t too shabby either!

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

You actually believe that don’t you. Stunning.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Shouldn’t you be in your next class, or are you done for the day?

BTW, are you posting all of these bits of wisdom from the teacher’s lounge on the university’s net and the taxpayer’s dime?

Yoop on June 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Oh, I don’t know. Maybe we need to know…who was responsible?

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

The way he’s handled it, Holder by implication is taking full responsibility… since he won’t disclose who is. There’s more than one way hold someone in contempt.

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM

What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Let’s start with: Who authorized it, and what attempts were made to cover it up?

Or would that be too political for your taste?

BadgerHawk on June 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

And still people will vote Democrat. Criminality STUPID!!

Yakko77 on June 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM

This reeks of a cover-up more strongly than any of the shenanigans that have transpired to date.

Why wasn’t ‘executive privilege’ invoked when the subpoena for the documents was served? Why now, after more than a year of Holder’s dodging and weaving?

Disgusting.

ProfessorMiao on June 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM

RT @TheDCVince: Holder’s dog ate the documents. Obama ate the dog. Executive privilege.

Eren on June 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

We need to know why DOJ initially palmed it off as an Arizona bureau affair,

To avoid taking responsibility. Obvi.

Aren’t you even in the least curious…?

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM

We know the answer already, see the above sentence. This failed policy, however, is not on my list of failed policy priorities. As I’ve said, the whole debacle is a symptom of what’s failed in the War On Drugs and *should be* a matter of Congressional hearings on reducing the billions and billions we spend on anti-drug interdiction. Which is full of other boondoggles. Instead its become, like all issues, a political football where we get into the management minutae of the federal government. Its not even ideologically driven, purely partisan. And its tres fracking boring.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Grassley statement:

“This action is straightforward and necessary. Contempt is the only tool Congress has to enforce a subpoena. The Department of Justice can avoid the action by complying with its legal obligation. It’s not about personalities. It’s a procedural mechanism in our system of checks and balances. If Congress is afraid to pursue answers to questions, it’s not doing its job. People deserve transparency from their government. Transparency leads to the truth about what’s going on. It puts people in a position to defend their rights. It protects our freedoms.

The next step is taking Holder to court to have the SUBPONEAED documents released to the house oversight and reform committee, which they will be. All Holder is doing is stalling. I hope he drags his feet all the way it will keep this issue in the news cycle in front of voter’s faces. Most Transparent Administration EVAH/

Dr Evil on June 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

KJ will have an awesome take on this issue for his next piece……looking forward to it

cmsinaz on June 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened. A poorly run sting operation left too many federally marked firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

It’s run its course on the very day the contempt hearings begin on Holder and the President invokes executive privilege on documents he knew nothing about?

Blind allegiance like this create Hitlers, you know.

Chuck Schick on June 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

It is a legit scandal, its also completely run its course. Indeed, we all already know what happened. A poorly run sting operation left too many federally marked firearms in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. What more do we need to know?

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

We need to know why your guys are afraid to hand over the documents that were requested by a Congressional Committee.

What are they hiding?

And why do you think O’bama and Holder are above the law?

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I am very suspicious if there is anything in the documents at all linking Richard Milhouse Obama to F & F. Nixobama thinks he does best when he’s “at war” with Congress, so this gives him his war. He’ll spend a few months accusing them of conducting “witch hunts” instead of passing “his jobs legislation,” and then he’ll release the EO right before the election, nothing will be there, and he’ll say, “See? Told ya it was a witch hunt. Now vote for me.” I just find it very hard to believe that this isn’t a carefully orchestrated campaign strategy. Remember, Nixobama isn’t governing anymore; he’s campaigning, 24/7.

Rational Thought on June 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Shouldn’t you be in your next class, or are you done for the day?

Its summer…..

BTW, are you posting all of these bits of wisdom from the teacher’s lounge on the university’s net and the taxpayer’s dime?

Yoop on June 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

“teacher’s lounge?” Darling I have an office.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM

cmsinaz on June 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Thank you, ma’am. The wheels are spinnng. You can probably smell the smoke from there. LOL.

kingsjester on June 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Speier can’t shut her big mouth. She just cited the tape erasures during Watergate. Hey Jackie, Holder himself cited US vs. Nixon in getting Executive Privilege. You’re not helping.

MadisonConservative on June 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Geez. Like monkeys flinging cr*p around. Problem is their aim is so bad they’re hitting Obama with it.

kim roy on June 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Admin?

kingsjester on June 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM

We know the answer already, see the above sentence.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Oh, good. Name the person who palmed this off onto the Arizona bureau. You’re the only one on the planet how knows, apparently. Holder certainly doesn’t, or so he says.

de rigueur on June 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM

It would be neater if I hadn’t said on this very page that all uses of EP are inherently political.

libfreeordie on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

They’re also only invoked when the President is directly involved, and its used to restrict documents that are extremely sensitive.

Now what could be sensitive about a lying AG, guns provided to Mexican drug cartels, hundreds murdered with those weapons including Americans, and gun-control legislation waiting to be enacted… Hmmm…

By the way, you might want to brush up on Article II Section IV and Article III Section III… although I doubt it will make sense to you since it was written above your level of literacy, at an 8th grade reading level for an agrarian culture of the 1790′s!

dominigan on June 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM

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