Quotes of the day

posted at 10:35 pm on June 19, 2012 by Allahpundit

House Speaker John Boehner today took a direct assault at the president’s immigration announcement as he questioned the constitutionality of his decision to stop deporting and begin granting work permits to hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants and he surmised that President Obama made the announcement because the president “can’t talk about his economic policies.”

“It’s the president himself who said the last couple of years that he couldn’t do this and so the question remains whether he’s violating the Constitution,” Boehner, R-Ohio, said. “But let’s go back to what’s really going on here: The president can’t talk about his economic policies, can’t talk about the number one issue on the minds of Americans because his policies have failed. They’ve made things worse, and so he’s turned to the politics of envy and division, which I don’t think the American people are going to accept.”

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A group of 20 Republican senators led by Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) sent a letter to President Obama late Tuesday questioning the legality of his recent directive to stop deporting illegal immigrants who come to the country at a young age.

“Not only do we question your legal authority to unilaterally act in this regard, we are frustrated that you have intentionally bypassed Congress and the American people,” the letter read in part. “As president you swore to uphold and defend the constitution and enforce laws. Your recently announced directive runs counter to that responsibility.”

The letter requests documents from President Obama proving that he sought legal counsel to ensure that he had the right to issue the immigration directive.

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Rep. David Schweikert (R-Ariz.) on Monday proposed legislation that would block enforcement of President Obama’s new policy of letting certain illegal immigrants request temporary relief from deportation.

Schweikert’s bill would specifically prohibit the Department of Homeland Security from allowing that relief, which Obama described on Friday as an option for up to 800,000 immigrants who came to the United States illegally at a young age. Schweikert said his bill would prevent Obama from “dictating” immigration law from the White House.

“Last week, the president decided to grant amnesty and hand out work permits to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, while over 23 million Americans remain unemployed and the civilian participation rate is at a 30-year low,” he said Monday. “This amounts to an abdication of duty to the American people who are struggling in this economy.

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President Obama made waves last week by announcing significant changes to the government’s stance on the deportation of certain illegal immigrants. Most analysts portrayed the decision as a smart move to shore up Obama’s flagging standing with Latino voters.

I’m far less certain

While the Latino vote is frequently portrayed as a critical voting bloc, in truth it is concentrated in only a few swing states with just a handful of electoral votes…

Fifteen electoral votes could still be crucial in a close election. But here’s the rub: The analyses that focus only on the potential effect among Latino voters miss half of the equation: The potential effect among white voters…

Finally, I think it’s important to remember that Latino voters’ views on immigration aren’t uniform, and that just as there’s a ceiling on the Republican share of this vote, there’s probably something of a floor.

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Fox News’ Carl Cameron, sensing that evasion, asked why the presumptive Republican nominee was fine saying he’d repeal Obamacare but unwilling to say as much about this quasi-Executive Order.

“Well, when we talk about illegal immigration I think I want to start by saying we need to secure the border, we’ve got to have an employment verification system, and then with regards to these children who came here brought in by their parents who came in here illegally, how we deal with them is something I think that deserves a long term solution and I don’t think we go jumping from one solution to the other,” Romney replied. “The president I think made a mistake by putting out there what he called a stop-gap measure; I think that’s not the right way to go. I’m not going to be looking for stop gap-measures; I’m going to be looking for a permanent or a long-term solution that’s something I will start on day one. Actually, as soon as I get elected hopefully, I will start working on this issue and hopefully be ready to go immediately.”

Romney may, indeed, be more interested in crafting broader immigration reform — though his promise to veto the DREAM Act suggests he’s far more interested in border enforcement than reform. He may find the idea of a stopgap measure bad politics and bad policy. But the idea that he will somehow craft legislation and get it ready to be implemented upon him taking office Jan. 20, is truly wishful thinking considering how hard it proved to pass during the latter Bush years and early Obama years.

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I often feel as if I live in two worlds. I get angry when I hear stories of couples from wealthy families who come to Miami from overseas in the last weeks of a pregnancy, deliver their children at Jackson Memorial so their babies are born American citizens, and then leave the country and stick the American public with their hospital bills. I appreciate the frustration people have when they feel their country is being overwhelmed by illegal immigration.

On the other hand, when I hear some people accuse immigrants of destroying the American economy and culture and stealing jobs from American citizens, it stirs my anger, too. I can’t stand to hear immigrants described in terms more appropriate to a plague of locusts than human beings. And although I believe they are a small minority, I begin to wonder if some of the people who speak so disparagingly about immigrants would be just as worked up if most of them were coming from Canada.

I understand it is a difficult issue. It’s a law-and-order issue. But it’s also an issue about human dignity and common decency. And when we lose sight of either aspect of the issue, we harm ourselves as well as the people who wish to live here. Many people who come here illegally are doing exactly what we would do if we lived in a country where we couldn’t feed our families. If my kids went to sleep hungry every night and my country didn’t give me an opportunity to feed them, there isn’t a law, no matter how restrictive, that would prevent me from coming here. We should debate our differences on immigration with regard to all the issues that deserve our respect and attention.

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Canopfor
No I’m on the lake in Ohio …………its about sixty miles across lake Erie to Cleveland ……….

angrymike on June 20, 2012 at 12:30 AM

angrymike:Thats a wee bit further than 60 miles,but close enough!:)

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:40 AM

From that picture, you just know that there is also camel toe.

/shudder

AZfederalist on June 20, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Oh Jeebus, please pass the brain bleach for that ugly thought.

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Ewwww, ewwwww, you have just given a whole new meaning to gross….this image will haunt me…and it’s bed time :(…

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Marco Rubio must have gotten his La Raza membership card in the mail today. Too bad for him that he’ll never get my vote.

America and Americans first!

Punchenko on June 20, 2012 at 12:41 AM

I used to get stuck with the losers nobody else would talk to sometimes at parties… if you are too nice to them they cling to you and you can’t get rid of them.

petunia on June 20, 2012 at 12:39 AM

And we appreciated your kindness, petunia. Sorry about the clinging.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 12:43 AM

From that picture, you just know that there is also camel toe.

/shudder

AZfederalist on June 20, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Oh, for goodnes sake! Was that really necessary?

We are talking about Mr. Obama, right?

ccrosby on June 20, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Doh… W.o.o.k.i.e.e. is on the banned word filter list…

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Punchenko on June 20, 2012 at 12:41 AM

I’m with you there, Rubio’s stock is going down fast.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 12:44 AM

OK peeps, I finished the wrap up of the various news casts on Romney’s visit in Holland, MI today. I posted them in the Romney paid protestors thread.

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 12:44 AM

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:21 AM

I love this part (prior to his noticing Moochie’s saggy housewife butt): “When the President first arrived on the tarmac, minutes after the First Family’s arrival, he was all smiles as he waved to press members and staff that had gathered to see the family embark on their twenty-seven day Caribbean vacation.”

Twenty-seven days — LOL! But who would put it past them?

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Alrighty Peeps/PeepEtts,I’m bugging out,
JPeterman,left you the Hopey G-2 Speechy
Transcript/Video on page #2,

TxAnn56,great hearing from you,all the rest,
have a Great night….Night Everyone——————:)

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Transcript and Video:

President Obama Speaks at G-20 Summit
by Fox News Insider
8:25 pm ET June 19, 2012
************************

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/19/transcript-president-obama-speaks-at-g-20-summit/

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:34 AM

If you think I’m reading that crap, you are nuts!!!

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Obama is a mar on America that can never be removed. It makes me sad. I want to be rid of him.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 12:39 AM

I took my three nephews to D.C. last November and we toured the WH. It was really sickening to see O and Moochelle’s portraits amid all those great forefathers. Talk about something that can never be removed. At the beginning of the hall of portraits, the oldest (17) boomed out “where’s Reagan’s picture”? I was so proud of him.

TxAnn56 on June 20, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Transcript and Video:

President Obama Speaks at G-20 Summit
by Fox News Insider
8:25 pm ET June 19, 2012
************************

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/19/transcript-president-obama-speaks-at-g-20-summit/

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Thanks for that, it allows me to point out this icon of jackassery:

QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. President. One of Mitt Romney’s economic advisers recently wrote in a German publication that your recommendations to Europe and to Germany in particular reveal ignorance of the causes of the crisis, and he said that they have the same flaws as your own economic policies. I wanted to get your response to that…

OBAMA: Well, first of all, with respect to Mr. Romney’s advisers, I suggest you go talk to Mr. Romney about his advisers. I would point out that we have one president at a time and one administration at a time. And I think traditionally the notion has been that America’s political differences end at the water’s edge….

This is from the president that CAMPAIGNED IN BERLIN, GERMANY in July of 2008, while President George W. Bush was in office.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2012 at 12:47 AM

I’m beginning to think there will [be] no debates this fall.

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:40 AM

The Dog-Eating Retard might try to set something up with one of his pet MSM propagandists running it where he gets all the questions in advance and has the “refs” (none of which will be serious people) saving his sorry a$$ when he gets in trouble, but he certainly won’t agree to anything that might expose his idiocy. Mittens will probably give in and agree to some “debates” that end up being nothing more than prepared talking points and jabs at Mormons and heartless “immigrant haters” and “xenophobes”.

If there were a fair debate offered, Barky the Mutt-Muncher would never accept, just as he doesn’t do press conferences – and the ones he’s done have had prepared questioners on lists from the very start (though it took people quite a while to catch onto this, as Barky would call a name and then look around the room to see where the next questioner was).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Oh, for goodnes sake! Was that really necessary?

We are talking about Mr. Obama, right?

ccrosby on June 20, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Now that’s the funniest thing I’ve read all night.

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Transcript and Video:

President Obama Speaks at G-20 Summit
by Fox News Insider
8:25 pm ET June 19, 2012
************************

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/19/transcript-president-obama-speaks-at-g-20-summit/

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Massochist, much? :).,,

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I’m right behind you. I’ve got to get up in 6 hours to toil away to help pay for the illegals’ freebies.

TxAnn56 on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Ewwww, ewwwww, you have just given a whole new meaning to gross….this image will haunt me…and it’s bed time :(…

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Yeah well, I was trying to eat a nice big steak.

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:49 AM

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Furry… Star…Wars…Character usually works.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 20, 2012 at 12:49 AM

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:34 AM

If you think I’m reading that crap, you are nuts!!!

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:46 AM

JPeterman:

Lmao,at your own peril…..(kidding)….night!:)

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Ewwww, ewwwww, you have just given a whole new meaning to gross….this image will haunt me…and it’s bed time :(…

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Yeah well, I was trying to eat a nice big steak.

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:49 AM

ROTFLMAO… Might as well just put it in the refrigerator and wait till tomorrow now. o_O

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM

I’m right behind you. I’ve got to get up in 6 hours to toil away to help pay for the illegals’ freebies.

TxAnn56 on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

I have 6 more hours of toil to help pay for.the illegals. :)

tom daschle concerned on June 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I’m right behind you. I’ve got to get up in 6 hours to toil away to help pay for the illegals’ freebies.

TxAnn56 on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

TxAnn56:You go girl….Night Lone Star!:)

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:51 AM

I’m beginning to think there will [be] no debates this fall.

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Why, you think bammie will issue an edict, ahem, an EO declaring presidential debates futile :)…

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 12:51 AM

canopfor on June 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I’m right behind you. I’ve got to get up in 6 hours to toil away to help pay for the illegals’ freebies.

TxAnn56 on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Ahhh, come on.. I’m on the left coast, I’m just getting started!

ccrosby on June 20, 2012 at 12:52 AM

The thrill is gone.
My god, but this little girl can play… drool drool drool….

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:52 AM

The Dog-Eating Retard might try to set something up with one of his pet MSM propagandists running it where he gets all the questions in advance and has the “refs” (none of which will be serious people) saving his sorry a$$ when he gets in trouble, but he certainly won’t agree to anything that might expose his idiocy. Mittens will probably give in and agree to some “debates” that end up being nothing more than prepared talking points and jabs at Mormons and heartless “immigrant haters” and “xenophobes”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

The American people will see right through it if he tries to stack the deck.

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:53 AM

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Man, that was a lot of work. Thanks for the cap.

And, night ever’body. Everyone going to crash at the same time looks suspicious …

Axe on June 20, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Maybe Rubio is the rabbit, leading the way on how liberal an immigration policy Gov. Romney can get away with. When everyone pig piles on Rubio he’ll know that’s the stopping point.

Cindy Munford on June 19, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Cindy, I think you have really good political insight and instincts. What do you think is a good solution to this problem, the kids dragged here when they were underage?

How does the GOP address this to the general population, knowing that the main stream media will not report the fact that what Obama is doing is extra-constitutional, in other words, illegal?

I think Romney has been smart to give a non answer non answer for now because it is obvious that Obama deliberately planted this land mine hoping the GOP would step on it and start a racial screaming match for the next few months. And then everyone is then not paying attention to Obama’s official record, which is utter failure.

I hate amnesty, I don’t want any part of it, but how do we fix this mess without creating a wedge issue that blows up in our face and also does not then lead to chain migration that brings another 50 million here from south of the border?

Augh.

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 12:54 AM

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:47 AM

That is primo work!!..The guitar playing and the girl!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 20, 2012 at 12:54 AM

This is from the president that CAMPAIGNED IN BERLIN, GERMANY in July of 2008, while President George W. Bush was in office.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Which was illegal, un-American and about the most repulsive act ever by an “AMerican” politician. Barky should have been tossed from the race and jailed right after that.

The Germans also bear some responsibility as I cannot see America ever allowing a foreign political candidate to come and hold a campaign rally on the Mall in Washington. It’s just crazy.

But Mr. Un-Constitutional Campaign Finance Reform Juan McShame couldn’t be bothered with the illegality of that and could only manage to put out an idiotic “celebrity” ad, mocking what was an exceedingly illegal and un-American move, totally unprecedented in our history. Campaigning to foreigners in a foreign nation for an American political race … unreal. But, it happened, and, as with the tens of other violations of our Constitution and law, the Dog-Eating Retard got away with it scot-free.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 12:54 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 12:48 AM

I expect you’re right about this. Only this year it won’t matter. The MSM is attempting to move Heaven and Earth to protect The One in 2012, but it’s going to blow up in their faces like one of those cartoon cigars. Obama is the worst president in U.S. history since Andrew Johnson. I mean, he makes Jimmah look presidential. The guy is outta here. ACORN can’t save him. Americans are occasionally stupid, but we’re not insane.

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 12:56 AM

ROTFLMAO… Might as well just put it in the refrigerator and wait till tomorrow now. o_O

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM

I just tossed it out into the yard. The dogs are out there fighting over it. Bow Wow!

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 12:56 AM

What do you think is a good solution to this problem, the kids dragged here when they were underage?

Send them back to the countries they are citizens of. Done. End of story.

You want to blame someone for their problems? Blame their parents. But they have no right to be in the US. There are other kids in the world that the US wants to invite here who can’t come because these illegals are here.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 12:57 AM

For you folks checking out, have a good night.

I’m waiting for midnight local to dedicate a tune to Eric H.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM

TxAnn56 on June 20, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Heck, I have never met your son, but tell him I’m proud of him too.; )

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Pie time! See you in a bit. ; )

Bmore on June 19, 2012 at 11:34 PM

You just got in under the wire. Moe Howard was born on June 19th 115 years ago.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Transcript and Video:

President Obama Speaks at G-20 Summit

Really? Transcript and video? I think I’ll watch the video first, then read the transcript, and then sourge myself with a rawhide flail before turning in.

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Twenty-seven days — LOL! But who would put it past them?

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I thought the “Secret Service agent Stan “The Man” Gurgles ” was a nice touch as well.

They really hit on a lot of levels with that one.

/sadly, the picture was real

AZfederalist on June 20, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Heck, I have never met your nephew, but tell him I’m proud of him too.; )

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Fixed, TXAnn56.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:02 AM

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 12:56 AM

I wish you could get that through to Mittens, who is acting as if Barky is some run-of-the-mill guy in the White House and refuses to make clear how precarious America is with this idiot running us into the ground. Mittens is ticking me off to no end with his hispandering and wishy-washiness, especially when America needs a strong defender at this moment.

I’m quickly losing faith that this nation will be able to recover from the severe damage done (and still being done) and that dissolution might be the only alternative left soon. Mittens’ embrace of Marxist Rubio is bad, bad, bad stuff. It will suppress lots of votes that he needs because people are just going to throw in the towel.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Moe was always my favorite. ; )

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:05 AM

There are other kids in the world that the US wants to invite here who can’t come because these illegals are here.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 12:57 AM

I’ll step aside while your head explodes and blood shoots out of your eyes.


Foreign students enjoy new summer job protections — but what about Americans?

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Moe Howard was born on June 19th 115 years ago.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM

“Lady, if you don’t leave right now, you’re not going to miss anything!”

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Moe.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 AM

And what a trooper! Did you know he once fell and broke ribs in a scene, and got up off the floor and finished it before anyone realized he had been hurt?

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:12 AM

The president can’t talk about his economic policies… and so he’s turned to the politics of envy and division, which I don’t think the American people are going to accept.”

Very clearly stated. This is the truth and it’s settling in as a mainstream meme. Two out of three polled believe Obama spoke out for gay marriage in order to get reelected. People are having the same jaded reaction to his amnesty bribe. It is encouraging that Boehner doesn’t have to invent elaborate lies but increasingly can just speak the truth, confident that the public has enough of a grasp of what’s happening that they won’t reject the Speaker outright as just posturing.

Burke on June 20, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Moe…

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Karenhasfreedom:
Good question. How to deal with the “DREAM Act” people. Here’s my take, for your consideration.

We remain reasonable people. We say that children , minors, belong with their parents and when we institute a nationally mandates E-Verify system, change the citizenship law to require one parent to be a citizen or legal immigrant in order for the child to be granted automatic citizenship as the rest of the developed world does ( Canada being the only other developed nation, along with the Us, to still grant birthright citizenship to the children of foreign citizens), secure our borders and enforce existing federal immigration law ( stopping federal funding to ‘sanctuary’ cities or states until they comply vigorously), those minor children should accompany their parents back to the nation of their origin. President Obama has long said and written that the experience of spending some of his most formative years in Indonesia with his mother before being sent to live in Hawaii with his grandparents were wonderful for his personal development and helped to shape his world view. No one could argue that the experience has hampered his success as an adult.

People who have reached the age of majority, 18 years of age, are adults and as such are expected, under the law, to assume legal responsibility for themselves. If they fail to apply for legal status or citizenship upon reaching the age of majority, they have chosen to willfully disregard the law and are as guilty of shattering existing federal immigration law in their own right as their parents were before them. This individual has chosen not to apply to be either a citizen or a legal permanent resident and as such is the case, the individual should be returned to the nation of their origin. I think establishing intent is important and for the person who chooses not to apply for legal status, but instead to break the law, that intent is obvious. They have, by default, chosen to remain the nationality of their birth. Consider that the upward end of Obama’s ‘order’ allows those who are 30 to claim ‘immunity’ from the law and a work visa. This person has made the choice to break the law for 12 straight years. This would be AMPLE time to rectify their legal status. This individual, a 30 year old adult, has chosen to remain illegal rather than apply for legal status.

We are a nation of laws and those laws must be enforced equitably without preference or prejudice. This is the rule of law. It is the pillar upon which our democratic republic was founded and built. This equality under the law is what still binds us together as Americans and defines us in the world.

thatsafactjack on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM

JPeterman on June 20, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Yeah, I, uh … Boom! Splat!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Mittens is ticking me off to no end with his hispandering and wishy-washiness, especially when America needs a strong defender at this moment.

I don’t know about your “hispandering” reference (although I, too, am a hardliner on illegal immigration, and on the essential need to protect & uphold U.S. sovereignty), but there are also pragmatic realities to recognize in a presidential race. There is a time and a place. I would rather that Mitt refuse to rise to Barry’s latest diversion at all. He should just smile and say: “Well, that is for the Congress to deal with, not the Executive — But in the meantime, the greatest threat this nation faces (beyond Russia, China, Iran, and Syria) is the financial bankruptcy that YOU and your team has set us up for.”

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 1:20 AM

I used to get stuck with the losers nobody else would talk to sometimes at parties… if you are too nice to them they cling to you and you can’t get rid of them.

petunia on June 20, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Psychological projection. You are talking about yourself.

SparkPlug on June 20, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Great link,B!

Moe was also the sharpshooter with the pies and creampuffs. When there was a throw from off camera, Moe was the one throwing.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:24 AM

He should just smile and say: “Well, that is for the Congress to deal with, not the Executive — But in the meantime, the greatest threat this nation faces (beyond Russia, China, Iran, and Syria) is the financial bankruptcy that YOU and your team has set us up for.”

minnesoter on June 20, 2012 at 1:20 AM

+100 Perfect response with a nice dagger on that “… for the Congress to deal with …” phrase.

AZfederalist on June 20, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Send them back to the countries they are citizens of. Done. End of story.

You want to blame someone for their problems? Blame their parents. But they have no right to be in the US. There are other kids in the world that the US wants to invite here who can’t come because these illegals are here.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 20, 2012 at 12:57 AM

While I agree with the premise of your statement, it doesn’t change the problem of how we get them to leave.

I don’t think it is realistic to expect them, upon executive order (that’s the way it is done now, right?) to just leave. It will take a serious effort by this country to change our immigration laws. I don’t know if that exists right now.

I work in the agriculture industry, and while we make a a concerted effort to make sure who we hire is legal, I’m fairly certain that others do not.

I don’t blame either of them. Imigrants come here to earn a living they cannot in their own country( mainly Mexico in my area), and the producers are taxed, regulated, and everything else you can think of, out of their minds!

I know it is an unpopular idea, but deporting people who are contbuting to my local community in a positive way, does not make a whole lot of sense to me…

ccrosby on June 20, 2012 at 1:25 AM

The GOP has extended their business hours for the summer. They will now betray you until 6:30 PM Monday thru Friday.

SparkPlug on June 20, 2012 at 1:26 AM

SparkPlug on June 20, 2012 at 1:23 AM</blockquote

Brilliant! Care to enlighten us on the method you used to divine this insight, which you state with such certainty?

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:26 AM

novaculus, those were some fun skits! Wish we had comedy like that now. Love to laugh. Keeps you young, that and naps,…….oh, and pie.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:30 AM

It being after midnight here in Hoosiertopia, and officially Wednesday, June 20, 2012, the day of reckoning for a liar, perjurer, criminal conspirator, and all-around political hand tool, I dedicate this tune to Eric Holder.

Time has Come Today

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:32 AM

A story that as Allahpundit would say, is to good to check…

Obama Chastises First Lady Over Unsightly Panty Lines

WASHINGTON – In a rare display of harsh criticism, President Obama lambasted First Lady Michelle Obama as she and the presidential children were preparing to board Air Force One. When the President first arrived on the tarmac, minutes after the First Family’s arrival, he was all smiles as he waved to press members and staff that had gathered to see the family embark on their twenty-seven day Caribbean vacation. But Obama’s smile faded when he saw what his wife was wearing. After the initial wave of astonishment washed over him, the President’s face filled with scorn as he let fly a blur of caustic remarks that stunned even the more gruff military and secret service personnel standing nearby.

Staff Sargent Abraham Kelly told The Daily Rash that he was more shocked by the President’s wrath than he was by Mrs. Obama’s panty lines.

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Which begs the question: Should a big-butted woman wear boxers or briefs. ;-)

TXUS on June 20, 2012 at 1:36 AM

This is OT, but did anyone see Greta’s bit on Maher calling Allen West an Ape?

Check out the footage – the escort he is passing off as a girlfriend has a slight Herpes problem…

They must have been an item for at least 3 months, 6 months, I don’t know, how long does it take for that stuff to make an appearance?

ccrosby on June 19, 2012 at 11:55 PM

With Maher’s severe case of the cooties, probably within two days.

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Pie Fight!

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Which begs the question: Should a big-butted woman wear boxers or briefs. ;-)

TXUS on June 20, 2012 at 1:36 AM

To quote the Worlds most interesting Man… “What is between you and your pants, is between you and your pants“…

SWalker on June 20, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Dire Straits, QOTD song. Stooges.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Hey arnold, didn’t you link the girl playing the accordion the other night? And mention the great Flaco?

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:41 AM

It being after midnight here in Hoosiertopia, and officially Wednesday, June 20, 2012, the day of reckoning for a liar, perjurer, criminal conspirator, and all-around political hand tool, I dedicate this tune to Eric Holder.

Time has Come Today

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Great tune!

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:42 AM

I know it is an unpopular idea, but deporting people who are contbuting to my local community in a positive way, does not make a whole lot of sense to me…

ccrosby on June 20, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Block the borders first, and I mean block them, and I’m willing to find some compassion. Do compassion first and we bring the problem upon ourselves, not to mention the AQs who are crossing the border daily to bring hell into our cities and schools, making 9/11 look like a day at the park.

TXUS on June 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM

arnold. Ms Lamar asked about you today.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Bmore, I’m bummed I can’t find a link to NRBQ’s song, Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard from their Boppin’ the Blues disc. A classic!

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:51 AM

Waaay OT/ but have any of you seen the pictures of Obama’s mother at Gateway pundit? Good Lord. I think the Obama house is going to be tumbling down…

sandee on June 20, 2012 at 1:53 AM

arnold. Ms Lamar asked about you today.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Tell her I moved to New Zealand. I thought she went to being a vegetarian. Also can I buy a vowel?

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 1:58 AM

Bmore, I’m bummed I can’t find a link to NRBQ’s song, Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard from their Boppin’ the Blues disc. A classic!

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:51 AM

I’m afraid I can’t be of much help, I’m stuck on this iPad thingy yet another night. I was lucky to finally figure out how to post YouTube links with it at all. LOL!

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:00 AM

We are a nation of laws and those laws must be enforced equitably without preference or prejudice. This is the rule of law.

thatsafactjack on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM

My own personal opinion is that “rule of law” is just the tip of the iceberg. Its absolutism will only convince other absolutists. There are also many other valid arguments against amnesty and various dream acts such as that our already staggering debt can’t absorb another large entitlement; our historical culture which is part of our nation’s exceptionalism is in the process of imploding; changing laws midstream will create incentives for even greater abuse; it’s possible that elements of Mexican culture such as widespread bribery, kidnapping, and criminal decapitation might not be harmoniously transplanted to our country; etc.

I do believe rule of law is important, not as an absolutist doctrine but more for the pragmatic reason that without stability, there can be no growth or security, and also without a rule of law, corruption (wise Latina women dispensing favors to those who please them) inevitably runs wild.

Burke on June 20, 2012 at 2:02 AM

sandee on June 20, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Oh, man. More of Frank Marshall Davis’ porn surfaces. He wrote at length about an affair he and his wife had with an underage girl in some of his pornography. It has long been speculated that Obama is in fact the son of Davis, and the marriage to Barrack Sr. was a sham to conceal the affair and the identity of Barry’s real father.

Does anyone else wonder if this has something to do with the secrecy surrounding Barry’s BC?

Amazing. It is entirely possible that the illegitimate son of an avowed communist, pornographer and pervert is the Preezie of the United Steezie.

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 2:02 AM

CCrosby:
I saw your post with the concerns you expressed regarding the agricultural industries ability to get good workers. It may be of some interest to you that, according to the PEW CENTER, less than 2% of the illegal aliens currently in the nation who are employed work in the agricultural industry.
Temporary Work permits can be issued, and would be issued, to fill all of the nations AG Industry needs.
As to your concern about how the illegal aliens currently in the nation would be persuaded to leave, I believe Romney has been fairly clear on that issue. He has said that this nation must, as part of a comprehensive immigration reform effort, ‘turn off the magnates’ that drive illegal immigration and in so doing, cause the vast majority of those here illegally to ‘self deport’. This can be accomplished through a strictly enforced nationally mandated and implemented E-Verify system, changing the citizenship law to redefine ‘natural citizen’ to require that at least one parent be a citizen or legal permanent resident in order for a child to qualify for automatic citizenship, secure the borders, and stop providing benefit incentives that only encourage illegal immigration.
Consider that we require our own citizens, our young men, 18 years of age, to register for the selective service. We do this so that, if required, the nation can institute the draft in order to provide for the defense of this nations interests. These young men are required to accept the risk, sacrificing their own lives, in the event that they will be required to serve the nations defense or interests abroad even to the point of death if necessary. Surely, asking illegal aliens to go home, to their own towns and communities, from whence their families came and where their families and friends likely still reside, and apply for legal status if they wish to return to this nation, is not so great a sacrifice to ask of them.
Likewise, asking the AG industry to check legal status and work permits is not too great a sacrifice to have a legal and fair workforce. Recently, as I’m sure you’re probably aware, due to the fence and the downturn in the economy, California Ag Industry has found it necessary to raise wages for ag workers. This is due to fewer illegal aliens flooding over the border for those jobs. Black and legal Hispanic communities have profited from these higher wages and the greater availability of jobs in the dearth of unfair competition from illegal alien workers. Victor Davis Hanson (you can find the specific article at Victor Davis Hanson’s Private Papers online…he is a conservative author and blogger) has written a fine article on this subject and as he owns a large farm near FRESNO, he is in a position to have reliable insight and information.

thatsafactjack on June 20, 2012 at 2:03 AM

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 1:58 AM

I will, did you see my little note I left you?

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:03 AM

thatsafactjack on June 20, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Nice answer to this issue. The biggest problem is how to convey that past the severe bias of the media and popular culture and get it down to a 15 to 30 second sound bite. Sigh.

I am now watching Hannity’s interview with Romney. So far, I have been impressed with this guy, and I HATED him in the primary. I WORRY about what he REALLY stands for because he has been on both sides of most issues. What is the real Romney? They guy we are seeing right now, or???

Or am I projecting on to this guy because I desperately want Obama out of office?

karenhasfreedom on June 20, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Block the borders first, and I mean block them, and I’m willing to find some compassion. Do compassion first and we bring the problem upon ourselves, not to mention the AQs who are crossing the border daily to bring hell into our cities and schools, making 9/11 look like a day at the park.

TXUS on June 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM

I agree, but that does not address those that are here, and not causing problems other than contributing to the local economy?

I think there is a “chicken vs egg” problem we have to figure out.

While strengthening our borders has to happen, what do we do with those who are here and acutally contributing to our communites?

I’m looking for the answers to all of this like most of you. I just happen to be personally involved with people who deserve an answer (immigrants & natives alike), and a life of promise that this country offers.

ccrosby on June 20, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Hey arnold, didn’t you link the girl playing the accordion the other night? And mention the great Flaco?

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Yes I did. Hope you liked it. I’ll repost Flaco’s Dutch protege Dwayne. What a cool story. The kid loves Flaco and the feeling is mutual.

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 2:08 AM

I will, did you see my little note I left you?

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:03 AM

Yes sir, I remember the punctuation and someones name but what else do I need to do?

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 2:11 AM

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Have a look around, comment, so I’ll know you made it. You did make it over there didn’t you? Cause it says someone just did.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM

thatsafactjack on June 20, 2012 at 2:03 AM

I do appreciate the info, really, and I will look into your recommended reading…but (you knew that was coming, didn’t you) why was CA agriculture on a wait list last harvest?

We had to wait for certain fruits to be picked in the CA central valley before our harvest could take place, putting a huge burden on many farmers crops. It wasn’t because there was a ton of applications on my desk…All available (and willing workers) were tied up in the central valley, leaving the north coast without laborers.

Stats are great, but when fruit needs to be picked, they are not much comfort.

ccrosby on June 20, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Flaco is my accordion hero! You know he did a lot of recording with Ry Cooder?

Smack Dab In The Middle

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 2:25 AM

Have a look around, comment, so I’ll know you made it. You did make it over there didn’t you? Cause it says someone just did.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM

It wasn’t me. That’s why piggy needs another clue. :)

Hope her other name wasn’t Lang as she was involved in a felony hit and split.

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Cool.Spin this one!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 20, 2012 at 2:27 AM

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 2:27 AM

No, its someone thats either on the board with us right now or a lurker. It doesn’t tell me who just when and from where. All you have to do is clink the .

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Oh and arnold, you may have to have a google account to comment. ; )

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:32 AM

Karenhasfreedom:
I too am watching Romney closely. As to his ‘punting’ on his answer about Obama’s ‘rule’ at the moment, I think its the wisest course. However, I get the sense that he means to keep his word. He would like a second term. If he betrays what he promised on immigration I don’t see him getting it. He was concrete and specific in his repeated statements regarding ‘turning off the magnates’ that drive illegal immigration and causing the vast illegal alien population to self deport. If you look at his webpage, his position on illegal immigration has not changed.

Romney also understands that illegal immigration IS an economic issue. We are spending over $113 Billion per year on social services for illegal aliens alone ( See FAIR, Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform website). In ten years, that’s $1 1/3 TRILLION. That doesn’t speak to the funds for enforcement or border security or the judicial or penal systems. To discuss HEALTH CARE REFORM requires a frank discussion on how large a bite of MEDICAID funding that is being absorbed by illegal aliens. To discuss a JOBS BILL requires consideration and discussion of how many US jobs are currently held by illegal aliens and how that situation can best be rectified. Clearly, this issue is impacting every aspect of our economy.

Further, this issue has tainted our politics for decades. It has reached a point where it has to be dealt with effectively and efficiently. I think Romney and most other politicians recognize this and , if the truth were told, I think that is reflected in the Rasmussen and Gallup polling demonstrating that the voting Hispanic community is equally divided on this issue, with about half ( some 47%) not in favor of Obama’s ‘order’ and seeking a permanent resolution. This permanent and fair resolution, crafted in the rule of law, would also go a long way to uniting us as Americans.

It is wise to be wary as an American voter. We have certainly been burned before. However, that said, we have to make choices at some point. All we can do is thoroughly vet the candidates and make our will known to them, choosing those we believe understand what we want from them. We retain the power of the vote. Staying informed, contacting your congressmen from time to time to express your opinion cordially but firmly, applying pressure where necessary, are means we can use to try and see these issues resolved favorably.

thatsafactjack on June 20, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Flaco is my accordion hero! You know he did a lot of recording with Ry Cooder?

Smack Dab In The Middle

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 2:25 AM

thx for the link. Did not know about the Ry Cooder connection. I had never heard of Flaco until a few months ago. I was unaware that he was part of the TX Tornadoes despite having three of their albums. His friend Dwayne has the same mannerisms on the accordion, very funny and yet respectful at the same time. HA has really expanded my musical knowledge.

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Cool.Spin this one!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 20, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Dire, I figured you had split, you and I have been quiet on the boards the last couple. That should really change.

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:38 AM

Just finiished reading an LA TImes article, ‘Immigration policy by executive order’” I saw it on RCP first…typical a Times garbage, they are basically saying that what Obama did was the rit thing, bla, blah and that it is not. Power grab, etc….l

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/17/opinion/la-ed-immigration-20120617

But am surprised at the comments, they are all negative and condemn Obama’s power grab in unequivocal terms and poke fun at the authors of the article and the proverbial dear leader servilism of LA TImes…funny thing is that the article was not linked on drudge, which normally would explains the high number of negative comments…the tone of most comments is very civil, yet harshly condemning bammie…a lot of commenters seem to be independents, not cons, which is a really good sign…I mean you expect cons to be critical of obama, not so much the independents… Atter all maybe there’s hope for kalifornia in nov :)…most commenters seem to be from LA and san diego areas, judging by the content of their posts..

jimver on June 20, 2012 at 2:44 AM

Dire was here…somewhere

Gohawgs on June 20, 2012 at 2:44 AM

Dire was here…somewhere

Gohawgs on June 20, 2012 at 2:44 AM

Where you been? Saw you on a morning thread a while back and had to do a double take to make sure it was you. Lol!

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:46 AM

arnold ziffel on June 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Oh man, you are in for some treats. IIRC, Ry heard Flaco on a Norténo AM station, and tracked him down. He put together a band with soul vocalists and Mexican instrumentalists. In fact, he got them all together and told them, “We go on tour in two weeks.”

Dark End Of The Street

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 2:48 AM

sandee on June 20, 2012 at 1:53 AM</blockquote

Check it out:

Dreams

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 2:49 AM

Volver, Volver

novaculus on June 20, 2012 at 2:52 AM

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:46 AM

I’ve been unavoidably detained

Gohawgs on June 20, 2012 at 2:52 AM

It’s funny how Romney supporters label every important issue other than The Economy as a distraction from the economy.

I think it results from the fact that they’re aware that Romney sucks on every issue, and they hope that come November he’ll be seen as slightly less disastrous than Obama on the economy.

Obama could cede to China the entire West Coast of the United States and Romneybots would be screaming that it’s a distraction from the economy.

Don’t take the bait, Mitt! Keep focused on jobs!

sartana on June 20, 2012 at 2:52 AM

I’ve been unavoidably detained…

Gohawgs on June 20, 2012 at 2:52 AM

Chick problems huh, it’ll do it every time! LOL! Good to see you. ; )

Bmore on June 20, 2012 at 2:54 AM

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