New Egypt chaos: Hosni Mubarak clinically dead, or … maybe not

posted at 9:21 pm on June 19, 2012 by Allahpundit

Is there any compelling reason to believe this? Granted, the guy’s 84 years old, but apart from a few court appearances the only information the world’s had about him for the past 15 months has come from the deeply corrupt military junta that’s trying to consolidate its power.

Feel like taking their word for it?

Former President Hosni Mubarak, who led Egypt for three decades until he was toppled last year in a popular uprising, was on life support at a military hospital late Tuesday after he was declared “clinically dead” by doctors, according to Egyptian officials and state news media.

After suffering a stroke in prison on Tuesday, Mr. Mubarak, 84, was moved to a military hospital overlooking the Nile in Cairo. Doctors said they were unable to revive him after he went into cardiac arrest, state news media said…

His health deteriorated rapidly when he was flown by helicopter from the courthouse to a hospital ward in a notorious prison where many political prisoners were held during his rule.

That was version one. Version two:

[S]enior officials, including military leaders, have now contradicted that earlier report. Gen. Mamdouh Shahin, a member of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, reportedly told CNN that Mubarak “is not clinically dead as reported, but his health is deteriorating and he is in critical condition.”…

He suffered a stroke on Tuesday, and a defibrillator was used in prison before he was taken to the military hospital, Agence France-Presse reported.

Could be that he really did have a major stroke today and is now at death’s door; in fact, there was a report just eight days ago about how his health was failing. But there’s also a political reason why the junta might want to contrive a story that leaves Mubarak incapacitated. Namely, it’d be vivid evidence that the old regime’s no longer in control at a moment when Egyptians are more convinced than ever — and rightly so — that the old regime’s still in control. I remember reading more than once over the past year, in fact, how some revolutionaries are convinced that Mubarak’s secretly running the show from “captivity” notwithstanding the military’s assurances. Some of that feeling is paranoia borne of living in a police state for 30 years, but it’s not completely nutty: His military cronies are, after all, still in charge, and his judicial cronies conveniently just torpedoed the new parliament. Now that the junta’s issued a decree establishing itself as the country’s supreme authority, go figure that they might be looking for some dramatic gesture to reassure an angry public that this won’t be a re-run of Mubarak’s regime. Telling the world that Mubarak’s now so frail that he’s basically a vegetable qualifies as pretty dramatic.

Or maybe he really is a vegetable. The most dramatic gesture of all, of course, would be to announce that he’s dead (and, if need be, to arrange it) and yet they haven’t done that. Why stop on the one-yard-line by claiming he’s just really, really sick? The simplest explanation is that it’s true. So much for today’s crisis. The next crisis, coming tomorrow: Mubarak’s PM, Ahmed Shafik, is claiming that he won the presidential election, not the Muslim Brotherhood’s candidate. Jimmy Carter’s foundation, which monitored the election, is refusing to vouch for the legitimacy of the process, so the stage is set for a little old-fashioned vote-rigging in support of the old regime’s preferred candidate. Official results are coming in the next few days. Stay tuned.


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Just like Elvis…

Thought by some.

Electrongod on June 19, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Francisco Franco is still dead.

Philly on June 19, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Ugh,I agree AP,going over the news as it rolled in is confusing!

The Latest,hes critical……

Hes on Lifesupport………!

Hosni Mubark/Topic
******************

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/hosni-mubarak

canopfor on June 19, 2012 at 9:27 PM

My guess is that he will “die” and then go into the witness protection program.

crosspatch on June 19, 2012 at 9:28 PM

“To blave…!”

Seven Percent Solution on June 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Very sad, Mubarak was a keeper of peace with Israel for 30 years and a friend to America. Mubarak got back stabbed by our Muslim of chief. Obama pulled a Jimmy Carter on him.

Axion on June 19, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Weekend at Hosni’s?

HotAirian on June 19, 2012 at 9:30 PM

a defibrillator was used in prison

kinky

faraway on June 19, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Give him a break! He’s been mostly dead all day!

stvnscott on June 19, 2012 at 9:33 PM

He’s not dead. He’s just resting.

Curtiss on June 19, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Pinin’ for the fjords.

Walter Sobchak on June 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM

He’s pining for the fjords.

Curtiss on June 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Just like Elvis…

Thought by some.

Electrongod on June 19, 2012 at 9:24 PM

He still lives in Michigan, some say he posts here at HA under the name of Koolaid.

RickB on June 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

so the stage is set for a little old-fashioned vote-rigging in support of the old regime’s preferred candidate. Official results are coming in the next few days. Stay tuned.

would you rather the muslim brotherhood’s candidate win? i’d rather have some vote-rigging than have Egypt turn into Iran

sadsushi on June 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

some say he posts here at HA under the name of Koolaid.

RickB on June 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I knew it!!!

I had a feelin’

:)

Electrongod on June 19, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Pinin’ for the fjords.

Walter Sobchak on June 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Great minds and all that.

Curtiss on June 19, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Feel like taking their word for it?

Frankly, I’d trust them further than MSNBC.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on June 19, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Hosni the Undead

faraway on June 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Hosni Mubarak Vampire Killer.

Curtiss on June 19, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I’m not dead yet.
You’re not fooling anyone.

rbj on June 19, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Looks like the brotherhood might need some zombie killin’ ammo.

stvnscott on June 19, 2012 at 9:45 PM

I have no sympathy for Hosni or any of the creeps that worked for him or all of those that will take his place. They all hate women…or, at minimum, consider them to be second-class citizens.

Pic of the Day: The REAL War on Women

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/pic-of-day-real-war-on-women.html

M2RB: Roger Daltrey

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Parrot dead? Or only sleeping?

Bruno Strozek on June 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM

He’s pining for the fjords.

Curtiss on June 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

:)

jimver on June 19, 2012 at 9:47 PM

He’s not dead.

He’s getting better.

He doesn’t want to go on the cart.

He feel’s fine.

He thinks he’ll go for a walk.

yo on June 19, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Or as the famous tombstone inscription read:
“Actually , I was beginning to feel a little better”

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on June 19, 2012 at 9:50 PM

How long till the Hosni Mubarak “Miss Me Yet?” billboards?

Curtiss on June 19, 2012 at 9:51 PM

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/06/pic-of-day-real-war-on-women.html

M2RB: Roger Daltrey

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Though I would have preferred a pic of Helen Thomas…

I am sickened of this mentality…

:(

Electrongod on June 19, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I think I saw this movie.

taternuggets on June 19, 2012 at 9:53 PM

He committed suicide the Iraqi way, by tying his own hands behind his back and shooting himself in the head 9 times.

Bishop on June 19, 2012 at 9:54 PM

(Muslim) Freaks on parade.

minnesoter on June 19, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM

O_O

Dude, you need to have a warning or something, seriously. I just recoiled when I realized what I was looking at and now I’m in a funk.

Bishop on June 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM

You couuld make a movie. Call it Weekend at Bernie’s UN.

Mr. Grump on June 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Hosni is the Snake Pliskin of Egypt.

trigon on June 19, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Very sad, Mubarak was a keeper of peace with Israel for 30 years and a friend to America. Mubarak got back stabbed by our Muslim of chief. Obama pulled a Jimmy Carter on him.

Axion on June 19, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Yes. It was a sad day for America and for Egypt when our Jackass stabbed Mubarak in the back.

slickwillie2001 on June 19, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Though I would have preferred a pic of Helen Thomas…

I am sickened of this mentality…

:(

Electrongod on June 19, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I wish that I could have given you Helen Thomas. Sadly, this is the truth, which many on the other sides would hastily label “hate speech.”

Say what you will about W, but he never put human rights in China below climate change, sustainability, nuclear disarmament, etc. Why is it that the party that claims to be PRO-CHOICE on ABORTION stays MUM over FORCED abortions?

I think Lyle Lovett had a song that could start here — China is the son and America is the girl:

“M-O-N-E-Y”

If you want that girl
Listen son
Don’t you sit around and cry
Because love
In this world
Ain’t nothing you can’t buy

She’s got
Ruby lips
And emerald eyes
She’s got diamonds on her mind
If you want that girl
What you need is
M-o-n-e-y

That’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y
That’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y

I was out last night
With my girlfriend
Things were going
Very fine
And I asked her
Would you like a kiss
She said thank you no but I’ll have some
M-o-n-e-y

That’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y
That’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y

No finance
No romance
Was how she told me goodbye
First she took my love
And then she took all my
M-o-n-e-y

That’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y
That’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y

‘Cause she’s got
Ruby lips
And emerald eyes
She’s got diamonds on her mind
And if you want that girl
What you need is
M-o-n-e-y
And that’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y
That’s m-o-n-e-y baby
M-o-n-e-y

The US needs M-O-N-E-Y.

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Hey, what’s to worry? I’m sure the Islamic nation of Egypt will come to a wise, peaceful Islamic solution to all this.

minnesoter on June 19, 2012 at 10:06 PM

New Egypt chaos: Hosni Mubarak clinically dead…

…Joe Biden (put on the ticket for his foriegn affairs strength)…is talking to Hosni about a “recovery summer”!

KOOLAID2 on June 19, 2012 at 10:07 PM

O_O

Dude, you need to have a warning or something, seriously. I just recoiled when I realized what I was looking at and now I’m in a funk.

Bishop on June 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM

I’ll try to remember to start posting warnings. Be happy! It could’ve be worse…Much, much worse…like my post on abortion:

And, Now, For A Word About Abortion From…Johnny Rotten & Sid Vicious of The Sex Pistols

Music to read by: The Sex Pistols – Bodies

If you want to look at it, you can put it into the search on my blog.. Fair warning.

THE TRUTH IS NOT HATE SPEECH.™

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 10:08 PM

In other news, the Robinsons have lost nine today.

SDSquint on June 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I don’t know about this Hosni guy, but I swear that’s a picture of Bono

halfbaked on June 19, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 10:08 PM

No. I’ve seen enough of that horror to last 5 lifetimes, I don’t need any more to know what we’re up against.

Bishop on June 19, 2012 at 10:18 PM

“To blave…!”

Seven Percent Solution on June 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Ultimate thread WIN!!!!

44Magnum on June 19, 2012 at 10:31 PM

I think soon it will be clear that having Ghadafi and Mubarak in power, and maybe even Assad, is not such a bad thing compared to the alternative. Same for the guys from Yemen and Tunis.

And make no mistake, the Arab winter is coming.

AlexB on June 19, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Just like Elvis…

Thought by some.

Electrongod on June 19, 2012 at 9:24 PM

He still lives in Michigan, some say he posts here at HA under the name of Koolaid.

RickB on June 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Psshhh. Silly people. Elvis is buried in my yard.

Wolfmoon on June 19, 2012 at 10:52 PM

don’t know about this Hosni guy, but I swear that’s a picture of Bono

halfbaked on June 19, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Naw, he’s clean shaven. It’s DeNiro.

minnesoter on June 19, 2012 at 11:00 PM

He’s not only merely dead, he really most sincerely dead!

eeyore on June 19, 2012 at 11:13 PM

“I’m not dead yet!”

nukemhill on June 19, 2012 at 11:29 PM

“To blave…!”

Seven Percent Solution on June 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM

+Inconceivable (to infinity)

pookysgirl on June 19, 2012 at 11:30 PM

I wear my sunglasses at night so I can…so I can…

Eff Cliffy on June 19, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM

I used it first. ;)

http://youtu.be/Xa6J7-6PlK0

mankai on June 19, 2012 at 11:46 PM

I used it first. ;)

http://youtu.be/Xa6J7-6PlK0

mankai on June 19, 2012 at 11:46 PM

You may have given me the idea. I know that someone flagged the song here a while back and I made a point of it. As you may know, I try to match a song with all of the stories on my blog (It wasn’t always that way, but people started getting upset if I left out the music). It gets difficult at times to come up with new ones, as I don’t duplicate. I have tonnes of tunes in my head all of the time that I write down everywhere because I know that once the need comes, I’ll be BLANK.

Thanks. I will h/t it to you.

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 11:57 PM

eeyore on June 19, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Dang it! Beat me to it!

TugboatPhil on June 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Resist We Much on June 19, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Danke… and nice blog. You do your homework.

HERE’S my anti-progressive diatribe I penned back in 1991… the demo version anyway. It rocked live (I was much younger then).

;)

mankai on June 20, 2012 at 12:33 AM

He’s got nice sunglasses going for him.

Sherman1864 on June 20, 2012 at 3:24 AM

Mubarak was taken to Cairo General Hospital where he was declared dead.

He was later taken to a better hospital, where his condition was upgraded to “Alive”…

JohnGalt23 on June 20, 2012 at 3:52 AM

The Egyptian military hasn’t covered itself in glory, and the democracy movement proved unwise. They only had to wait a little time for the maximum leader to die or become incapable.

David Blue on June 20, 2012 at 4:58 AM

Soviet style stroke?

farsighted on June 20, 2012 at 8:10 AM

“This just in: General Franco still dead.”

Akzed on June 20, 2012 at 9:06 AM

He’ll probably be running for president of Israel next year.

Miraculously recovered.

profitsbeard on June 20, 2012 at 9:39 AM

he’s still alive enough to have voted ‘yea’ on obamacare in the senate…

mittens on June 20, 2012 at 9:52 AM

He’s been mostly dead all day.

Buttercup on June 20, 2012 at 4:52 PM

There’s a big difference between mostly dead, and all dead. Now, mostly dead: he’s slightly alive. All dead: well, with all dead, there’s usually only one thing that you can do…Go through his clothes and look for loose change.

Miracle Max

Buttercup on June 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM