F&F: Issa and Holder to meet today ahead of contempt vote

posted at 10:41 am on June 19, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The imminent threat of actually being found in contempt of Congress has finally spurred Attorney General Eric Holder to some sort of definite action in the continuing investigation over his level of involvement in the deadly, not-botched gunwalking operation known as Fast and Furious.

Given that the Oversight Committee is composed of 22 Republicans and 16 Democrats, and that Holder “invented a privilege that doesn’t exist” in willfully neglecting to comply with last October’s Congressional subpoena of over 140,000 F&F-related documents, the Holder contempt-vote going forward is a very real possibility.  Looking to postpone that pending calamity to his career, Holder last week offered to meet with Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa and cough up a certain selection of the Fast and Furious-related documents that Congress subpoenaed last October. The potentially fateful meeting is currently supposed to take place at 5 p.m. this afternoon:

Holder, in a letter to Issa delivered Monday, said the Justice Department “has offered a serious, good faith proposal to bring this matter to an amicable resolution in the form of a briefing based on documents that the committee could retain.”

Until now, Issa, the chairman of House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, has demanded to see a trove of documents on the controversial Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives operation — and to know who prepared a now-retracted letter from Feb. 4, 2011, in which the Justice Department claimed the U.S. did not knowingly help smuggle guns to Mexico, including those later found at the murder scene of border agent Brian Terry

Congressional Republicans familiar with the investigation say Issa is under pressure from House Speaker John Boehner to drop the Fast and Furious investigation because Boehner sees it as an election-year distraction that could hurt Republicans at the polls. …

However, late Monday, Issa wrote Holder back with a strategy of his own. Not only must Holder deliver the roughly 1,300 documents pertaining to the Feb. 4 letter, but he must also produce a description of all the documents he will not produce. Issa says that document log is “essential for the committee to determine whether the department has substantially met its obligations.”

I’d guess that Issa is probably chomping at the bit to vote to bring a contempt citation to the House floor, but is reluctantly agreeing to try to work with Holder in order to placate the GOP leadership — and it might actually be worse if a contempt vote does reach the House floor and fails to get through, or if Boehner won’t allow the vote at all. Perhaps Issa really does have some hope that these 1,300 documents will bear fruit, but I can’t help feeling like Holder is just stalling here. Honestly, what are you working so hard to hide?

I realize the GOP is worried about how an ostensible “witch hunt” might look to the electorate, but I am sincerely hoping they won’t sacrifice accountability for the sake of politics.


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Myths are things that are not real. You do understand that don’t you?

SWalker on June 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I believe that I am not the one who needs to be reminded of the definition…

1) I want to emphasize that I said, “if” to you, not asserting that what you linked to was necessarily was a myth

2) since what you asserted has not been substantiated, and because I believe it doesn’t fit what I’ve been observing about Issa and his handling of F&F (besides the fact that William La Jeunesse was just on w/Megan Kelly within the last 1/2 hour, and presented a much different relationship between Boehner & Issa about F&F that what you have, which he based upon inside sources), I do believe that what you linked to will be proven to be a myth, by the end of tomorrow…

Bizarro No. 1 on June 19, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I fear a cave coming on

cmsinaz on June 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM

I can smell it, cmsinaz.

PopsRacer on June 19, 2012 at 10:55 AM

…Issa looks mad enough to me…I’m waiting for him to punch him!…He’s no Mitch the b!tch or crybaby Bonehead that just make sounds.

KOOLAID2 on June 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM

@KOOLAID2: In a way I’m inclined to agree with you, but we’ve been through the Lucy holding the football trick too many times.

PopsRacer on June 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM

How in the world would this be a BAD distraction to the election? I’m serious. Can someone explain how this would be bad in any shape, way or form for the Rs?

kim roy on June 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM

How about instead of those documents I offer you this:

1. Good condition Roger Clemens rookies card
2. Pictures of all the AG secretaries

Huh, huh? Wadda ya think?

sdbatboy on June 19, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Monkeytoe on June 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM

‘He’?
‘She’?
Or is that a component to your rant?

verbaluce on June 19, 2012 at 3:55 PM

…thanks to a complicit media working to protect the boy king and his administration….

Flora Duh on June 19, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Well, maybe…just maybe…your animosity towards ‘the boy king’ is swaying you just a tad here?

verbaluce on June 19, 2012 at 4:00 PM

tired of this polictical theatre. They should of met first thing in the morning, now it’s 5 pm where it’s going to be swept under the rug as old news tomorrow. Issa dropped the ball I would have met him 8 this morning, if he didnt show up contept. The end

Conservative4ev on June 19, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Congressional Republicans familiar with the investigation say Issa is under pressure from House Speaker John Boehner to drop the Fast and Furious investigation because Boehner sees it as an election-year distraction that could hurt Republicans at the polls.

Erika, Mary Chastain at Breitbart contacted Boehner’s office after seeing this post of yours.

They dispute that part of William La Jeunesse’s story.

Once again the media is reporting supposed facts about Speaker John Boehner without actually confirming them. This time Fox News’s William La Jeunesse states Speaker Boehner is putting pressure on Chairman Darrell Issa to drop contempt charges against Attorney General Eric Holder in relation to the ongoing investigation of Operation Fast and Furious.

This is not true. Speaker Boehner’s spokesman Michael Steel confirmed it for me once again.

“The Speaker supports Chairman Issa’s efforts to hold the Department of Justice accountable,” Mr. Steel wrote in an email…

Flora Duh on June 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Well, maybe…just maybe…your animosity towards ‘the boy king’ is swaying you just a tad here?

verbaluce on June 19, 2012 at 4:00 PM

No maybe, just maybe, my having watched every one of Holder’s appearances before Congress, which are available on CSPAN to anyone who is truly interested, and watching every report that CBS’ Sharyl Atkinson has broadcast, with people who actually participated in the operation, has shown me enough truth to know when there’s a cover-up going on that the media, besides CBS and FOX News, is not bringing forth to the public.

But I’m sure they would do the same if this was happening under a Republican administration. /

Flora Duh on June 19, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Or is that a component to your rant?

verbaluce on June 19, 2012 at 3:55 PM

What have I said that is untrue?

You acknowledge on the last thread that you don’t care if DOJ/Holder complies with Subpoenas b/c in your opinion the investigation is partisan.

Therefore, you stated that complying with laws – duly issued subpoenas in particular – is predicated entirely on the recipient’s perception of the motive of the issuer.

How you don’t see that as basically rooting for illegal activity, someone much stupider (on your level) would have to explain.

Monkeytoe on June 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM

What I love most about trolls like Verbulace is that they think they are witty and clever.

It is amusing to see what a limited intellect considers insightful.

Monkeytoe on June 19, 2012 at 4:58 PM

what’s also funny is she took my quote earlier about exposing trolls without realizing it was directed at her…and Tim_CA and a few other outliers that were hanging out at the beginning

DanMan on June 19, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I realize the GOP is worried about how an ostensible “witch hunt” might look to the electorate, but I am sincerely hoping they won’t sacrifice accountability for the sake of politics.

Color me gobsmacked. Why on earth should Issa pull back?? Holder is one of the reasons that Obama has to go in November.

John Boehner is a huge disappointment to me. I remember those crocodile tears of gratitude when he became Speaker.

Where are they now, Mr. Boehner?

disa on June 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Monkeytoe on June 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Thank You!!!

RedLizard64 on June 19, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Issa:

Contempt vote coming on Fast and Furious
6/19/12 6:31 PM EDT Updated: 6/19/12 6:49 PM EDT
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Fiery California Rep. Darrell Issa is planning to move forward with a committee vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, a major escalation in the ongoing Fast and Furious scandal.

A late Tuesday meeting at the Capitol between Issa and Holder failed to produce an immediate agreement to head off a Wednesday vote in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to hold Holder in contempt. Issa and his Republican colleagues contend that Holder has not forked over documents that the committee has subpoenaed to detail the operation, which gave guns to Mexican cartels.
(More…………..)
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77610.html

canopfor on June 19, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Contempt vote coming on Fast and Furious
6/19/12 6:31 PM EDT Updated: 6/19/12 6:49 PM EDT
************************************************

Fiery California Rep. Darrell Issa is planning to move forward with a committee vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, a major escalation in the ongoing Fast and Furious scandal.

canopfor on June 19, 2012 at 7:19 PM

But, how can this be? I’ve been hearing from reliable sources that Issa has been conspiring with Boehner to sell out the US over F&F!

It must be a lie!!!

Bizarro No. 1 on June 19, 2012 at 7:51 PM

That cliche that Dire loves to quote, “The GOP will betray you” goes triple for Issa.

SWalker on June 19, 2012 at 1:30 PM

…didn’t know that!…Thanks!

KOOLAID2 on June 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM

…didn’t know that!…Thanks!

KOOLAID2 on June 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM

lol

Bizarro No. 1 on June 19, 2012 at 8:25 PM

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