Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads
posted at 8:01 am on June 17, 2012 by Allahpundit
How happy do you think Romney is that, two days after he committed to making his first non-Fox Sunday morning appearance of the year, The One dropped a DREAM Act bombshell on him? Now, instead of spending 20 minutes attacking Obama on the economy, he’ll spend 20 minutes squirming through questions about whether he’d reverse O’s decision as president, what he has in mind for his own version of DREAM, and whether he thinks it’s possible to avoid a complete intraparty clusterfark over this issue. Makes me wonder if the White House didn’t accelerate the timing of yesterday’s policy shift because they knew Romney had nowhere to hide this weekend.
Here’s the line-up via WaPo. Plouffe, McCain, Graham, even Kim Strassel of the amnesty-friendly Wall Street Journal: Is there a single person on any show this weekend who opposes DREAM on the merits? Rich Lowry’s the only possibility that I see. Pawlenty might privately oppose it too, but as a top Romney surrogate he’s not going to come out strongly against it. Especially in a forum as prominent as this.
NBC’s Meet the Press: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; David Maraniss, Washington Post; Doris Kearns Goodwin, presidential historian; Mark Halperin, Time; former Rep. Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN); Kim Strassel, Wall Street Journal
CBS’ Face the Nation: Mitt Romney; former Vermont Governor Howard Dean; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC); Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal; Rich Lowry, National Review; Jan Crawford, CBS; John Dickerson, CBS and Slate
ABC’s This Week: David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; former Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN); George Will, ABC News; Matthew Dowd, ABC News; former Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee; Katrina vanden Heuvel, The Nation
Fox News Sunday: David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT); Michael Hayden, former CIA Director; Bill Kristol, Weekly Standard; Joe Trippi, former Howard Dean campaign manager; Karl Rove, former Bush White House senior adviser; Juan Williams, Fox News
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Bishop!
herm2416 on May 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Paula Broadwell…
d1carter on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Wow!!! A story about Benghazi . There certainly hasn’t been enough stories about.
/s
antifederalist on May 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM
How many scandals does it take?
We need a special prosecutor. Like Rudy.
dogsoldier on May 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM
In between entertaining visitors from Chicago?
farsighted on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM
We must keep talking about it until the Lame Old Media is compelled to cover it and until Zero is IMPEACHED.
He left four Americans to die and simply went to bed.
dogsoldier on May 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM
That’s the first thing that crossed my mind when I read that Petraeus said ”I would just as soon not use them, but it’s their [the White House] call.”
Curtiss on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Faux Republican, Dem apologist, and left-wing pet David Brooks actually continued to push this meme on MTP.
farsighted on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM
“Useless” isn’t going to move the needle.
AYNBLAND on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Why be so forceful, General Petraeus, what did you have to lose?
d1carter on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Blood in water. Sharks!
petefrt on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM
This should be fun trying to get hill to testify again? Wonder if she will become ‘too ill’ to do so? That old hag harpy is hiding something big time? If congress really wants a committee to investigate this, they should NOT allow holder/team to have any hand in it, they will lie like a rug to cya bho/team, IMO!
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letget on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Jay Carney “The gernyxl formaxit the malnix vlanjests the fleexmixon. Therefore its plain to see it’s a Republican witch hunt.”
MaiDee on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Shut up McCain.
I wouldn’t call for Hillary! to testify until everyone else involved has publicly testified under oath.
farsighted on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM
The timing of Petraeus’ resignation is just one of those curious Washington coincidences…you know like Fort Marcy Park.
d1carter on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Rule 1: never piss off the spooks.
Rule 2: always remember rule 1.
can_con on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Oddly enough, my cell phone text messaging often autocorrects “The talking points were a cover-up for our incompetence” to “The gernyxl formaxit the malnix vlanjests the fleexmixon.”
Ed Morrissey on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM
He’s building a predicate that Hillary is to blamed, in the minds of Americans fresh to this story because the media just began covering it. So, you should shut up. He’s knows what he’s doing.
AYNBLAND on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Nah, if Issa is really smart, he will offer her a deal….
dogsoldier on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Nope, bad move. Obama’s admin already muddied those waters with the way they made sure he went down after it became clear he wasn’t fully on board with the deception plan.
Having him testify would be a huge distraction in the press.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 AM
IRS, Benghazi, 0bamacare, gun control, Pigford, Keystone, Green
projectsripoffs, OFA brownshirts, EPA bullying…how many more will it take?cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 AM
My gut is telling me that these White House Bolsheviks are attempting to decapitate anyone and everyone associated to missions and events from the Middle East that threaten to go against their delusional versions of the real events. Most of Seal Team 6 Gone. Dead American Ambassador and staff left for dead like a sacrificial pawn in some sick twisted political strategy.
It may be unprecedented historical levels of perversions the Executive Branch has reached during these last few years. It’s gang of IRS, State Department, Department of Justice, and Main Stream Media thugs are executing a full on assault against the founding principles of the United States and it’s Constitution in attempt to covert Free People into Far Western Europeans. Once DHS as full control of all police and law enforcement agencies as well as the domestic military forces then game over.
I hope I’m wrong.
Egfrow on May 12, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Not that Juan Williams cares about his underpants, but I suspect that he unconsciously soiled himself after appearing on FNS this morning to repeat this talking point at least three times. “Intramural fight blah blah blah. Intramural fight blah blah.”
I’m finding it fun to watch all the liberal journalists offering cover to the White House and State Department as land mines keep going off closer and closer to the centers of power in the WH and State Department.
BuckeyeSam on May 12, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Do you have an Obamaphone or is that the phone all the mainstream media uses..? LOL.
d1carter on May 12, 2013 at 11:21 AM
I don’t think I like the fundamental change we were promised.
BobMbx on May 12, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Could also be he wants his former drinking buddy to have a chance to back off the “what difference does it make” rant and to spin more lies to rehabilitate herself. Perhaps he fancies himself SecDef in a Clinton administration.
Wethal on May 12, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Yeah, just like he knew what he was doing in the fall of 2008.
And like he does now on “illegal immigration” reform. And like he does now when calling for a major US military intervention in Syria.
farsighted on May 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM
More than the number that can be uncovered between now and January 20, 2017.
Curtiss on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Fleexmixonist. My my.
BobMbx on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 AM
I know a real scandal. Lying to the people in this country about WMDs to get support for a war that cost hundreds of billion of dollars and resulted in the deaths of thousands of US troops. More than being impeached, Bush and Chaney should be sitting in a prison cell right now for their lies.
antifederalist on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM
I just laughed out loud.
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM
…how often can you… GFY ?
KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM
I’m afraid to have a glimmer of hope this might get more legs than it already has.
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM
NEW! The Obamamediaphone 5!
With the free automatic WH re-tweet Fleexmixon 2.0 App! Never have to write your own news story again!
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Redefining Bill Clinton as Not The First Black President ™.
dissent555 on May 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Bush should never have believed the intelligence reports that Clinton and Tenet gave him. Tenet was a groveling careerist and Clinton was too busy leaving presidential DNA on Monica’s blue dress to apy attention.
Wethal on May 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Hmmmmm….
Issa wants to depose State Department Officials…
workingclass artist on May 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM
the two are very connected. Obama outed the Gen just like he used the IRS to attack his politcal enemies. Once Petraeus’s honor was destroyed and life ruined Obama was “safe” from attacks from the CIA’s top man and was able to install someone he trusted 100%.
If not for terror attack on our embassy Petraeus would be CIA head to this day.
unseen on May 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Until the newest revelation, I doubt reporters wanted to go back to this Petraeus affair. I think we have to start talking about that timeline. I realize that Petraeus would testify with a ton of baggage, but he needs to explain his Pontius Pilate routine, and he needs to explain how his subordinate–rather than he–ended up signing off on the talking points.
BuckeyeSam on May 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM
as long as Obama, Clinton, Biden and Hillary are in the one next to them I would be all for it.
unseen on May 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM
McCain wants a ‘select committee’ to look into this? Why, so he can help build cover for Hillary and others who really need to be looked at very deeply?
McCain needs to go on a fact-finding junket to Syria, far as I’m concerned.
I say to get all the whistleblowers, who are low- to medium level but enough in-the-know, to state their evidence and testimony first. That way, a case can be built strong enough so higher-ups have no wiggle room at all. Force Hillary to lie against corroborated testimony, so there’s no way she can come out of the investigations smelling like a rose.
Liam on May 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM
this scandal is like watergate and Iran contra combined.
unseen on May 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM
The Media will protect the Clintons more than they will protect the One if it comes down to it. Get curb side seats at the Pennsylvania Avenue Bus stop. The throwings will be begin soon. They can’t afford to have Hillary not be a viable candidate for 2016. When collectivist depend on fear and intimidation to keep power, which the usually do, they will devour each other like cannibals when a crack in their veneer breaks open.
Egfrow on May 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM
You know the lefties are desperately seeking new talking points when they start recycling Iraq! Bush! Cheney! for the billionth time.
farsighted on May 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM
hopefully it will be a fad diet type of change.
unseen on May 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM
…trumpeting what a REAL MORON you are?….(amongst others)…you need to talk to your current and old Secretary of State about WMD’s….dumbazz!
KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Antifed- you’re right. He didn’t have WMD.
After they rolled into Syria. They went to the Kurds, too. In a different fashion.
wolly4321 on May 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM
yeah I love the people who try to say two wrongs make a right. If they really believed bush and chenny lied and were evil because of that then they should be at the front of the line demanding Obama resign.
unseen on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM
aw man, you can do better than that…
equanimous on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM
…wanna bet?
KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM
aw man, you can do better than that…
equanimous on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Nope, that was probably his best shot… and I don’t mean that in a good way…
sandee on May 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Antifed cries out. boooooosh!
Won’t work.
wolly4321 on May 12, 2013 at 11:42 AM
It’s a search for ‘moral equivalence’. “If Bush and Cheney got away with Iraq, then Obama should get away with Benghazi even though nothing happened in Benghazi. It’s a witch hunt!”
Liam on May 12, 2013 at 11:43 AM
I thank you for confirming a long held belief of mine on certain segments of libertarians: it’s much easier to use progressive talking points than it is to use truth.
nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM
…its playing with its booooooooosh?
KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Sadly, I don’t think it can.
VegasRick on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Obama coverup = Nixon coverup X 1,000,000
Impeach the lying narcissist.
fogw on May 12, 2013 at 11:46 AM
the difference between a conservative and a liberal. If Bush or even reagan would have done something like this conservatives would turn on them in a minute because those people would not deserve our support. a liberal will sacrifice and chang ehis entire worldview, principles and beliefs to continue to supprt someone like Clinton or Obama.
right vs left
morals vs the immoral.
unseen on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 AM
Endlessly …
… he’s got a machine that does it for him.
You need to give him a disincentive … you know, a math problem.
PolAgnostic on May 12, 2013 at 11:49 AM
I know someone threatening to name his child Benghazi.
IlikedAUH2O on May 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM
O/T,
Happy Mothers Day to all moms/g-moms here on HA and those who look.
Both hubby and I don’t have moms to wish a Happy Mothers Day to and if y’all have moms, you should tell them how much you love and thank them for all they do/did for you!
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letget on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Deflection and obfuscation. You’re a useful idiot. F uck off.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 AM
I wish I knew why all these journos, who reported about Clinton’s problems, are so afraid of Obama. What is so special about that weasel that people are so willing to sacrifice their integrity, careers and country for him?
clnurnberg on May 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Please stop him!
clnurnberg on May 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM
BTW: Dennis Kuccinch was tremendous on Fox News Sunday. The heads of liberal partisans around the country must have been exploding.
BuckeyeSam on May 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM
*cough* he’s black/don’t want to be called a racist *cough*
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM
You’re Boring.
And remember, the 2002 Iraq Authorization, which our current and former (Democrat) Secretaries of State signed off on as Senators, was based on WMD claims from the previous (Democrat) Administration. Mrs. Clinton told us so when she voted to authorize the Iraq War; she said she got her intel on the WMDs from her husband’s intel people, not Bush’s.
Likewise, that 2002 Iraq Authorization also listed 11 other non-WMDs reasons for authorizing the use of force; many of those 11 other reasons also came from the previous (Democrat) Administration.
Remember, it was (Democrat) Bill Clinton’s Administration that first claimed Iraq had WMDs (in 1998) and that very same year his Justice Department’s Federal Indictment of bin Laden specifically stated that al Qaeda did have a working relationship with Iraq.
So using your “logic”, former (Democrat) pResident Bill Clinton, his wife, and our current “Secretary of State” should also be sitting in prison for their lies. I’m sure you will agree.
F-
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM
I guess that my earlier post about the possibility of an official on a cocaine induced paranoid mania over the video isn’t going anywhere?
See?
I try to be measured and reserved and it gets me nowhere.
IlikedAUH2O on May 12, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Not sure either, I’m pretty sure the racist card is maxed out.
VegasRick on May 12, 2013 at 11:56 AM
.
It’s time to go the full Watergate on the SCOAMF’s administration with a select committee of House and Senate memebers. It needs to be headed by a ultra smart litigator …
…someone even Alan Dershowitz acknowledges is one of the best legal minds he has ever come across …
… if only we had someone like that … someone like …
Senator Ted Cruz
PolAgnostic on May 12, 2013 at 11:56 AM
He’s a black, affirmative-action hire. Therefore, he possesses absolute moral authority.
BuckeyeSam on May 12, 2013 at 11:56 AM
So are Condi, Susan Rice, Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain and Van Jones. There must be something else. There is something very sinister about this administration.
clnurnberg on May 12, 2013 at 11:57 AM
Wow judging by all the lib trolls ,panic must be really starting to set in….. Going back to Bush/Cheny? Tick/tock tick/tock… The clock is closing in on your hero obama…
sandee on May 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM
I think that’s right. When lawyers take depositions in civil suits, they like to try and depose fact witnesses first, and then the parties to the lawsuit. Usually no depositions happen until they have reviewed the documents in the case first. The strategy is intentional: get the facts out first, then depose the parties at the end and see how well they can “spin” the bad facts. They don’t really depose the parties to get the “facts,” nor should Issa depose Hillary to get facts..
Outlander on May 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM
It must really suck to be you right now. Desperate and stupid is a winning mix.
dogsoldier on May 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Where are all these lies about WMDs?
I have read one and a friend has read several books on the subject and can’t find them.
Please help us.
IlikedAUH2O on May 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM
BOOM! Ted Cruz was born to do this.
VegasRick on May 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM
He has it made. Teflon President…like nobody else.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Jay Carney’s crime:
He is a serial semantic contortionist.
It is a violation of the public trust to carefully craft every word of every “official statement” so as to avoid White House responsibility for any virtually action of the Executive Branch and, purposefully, to hide the truth from the American public. His crime should be placed in the federal criminal code and he should be locked up for it. As a former reporter, he should lock himself up as a simple matter of honor. Let’s not hold out breath on that one.
Meanwhile, it is a sad day (and a frightening day) when you can’t believe a word the Presidential spokesman says.
IndieDogg on May 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Where was George Stephanopoulos? Would he have become a persona non grata with the Clintons if he reported on this story?
halfastro on May 12, 2013 at 12:00 PM
This is weird. Mine autocorrects “The talking points were a cover up for our decision to reduce security in Lybia in the face of undisputed terrorist activity and threat assessments in the months leading up to the Benghazi attacks” to that phrase. Hmmmm?
TXUS on May 12, 2013 at 12:01 PM
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It’s the Chicago Way … the “journos” you refer to are just a generation of indoctrinated stenographers copying down word for word the dogma of the SCOAMF’s administration. They believe in liberal/progressive ideology heart and soul.
PolAgnostic on May 12, 2013 at 12:01 PM
For one thing, we talk too much.
Maybe Saddam didn’t know we were upset or serious.
You know, like the red line in Syria.
IlikedAUH2O on May 12, 2013 at 12:01 PM
A) I wouldn’t trust that McCain has the slightest idea what he’s doing.
B) Hilary! should be the FINAL witness called to testify or be deposed, as her entire string of lies will be exposed before she gets there.
C) Issa should NOT offer her a deal – the last thing we need is a teflon coated Clinton to be all greased up for 2016. She needs to go down in flames on this – Obama can’t be re-elected again.
Harbingeing on May 12, 2013 at 12:02 PM
The flip side of that is if you get shillary to testify early, you will have her lies (you know she will) on record, under oath, and then you can prosecute.
VegasRick on May 12, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Perhaps it’s more to do with the Obots willingness to abuse power to exert control. Petraeus resigned rather than be blackmailed any longer. He still came out smelling like excrement, but to go along with this was no longer acceptable. The Chicago way.
clnurnberg on May 12, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Indeed…..
MaxSplinters on May 12, 2013 at 12:05 PM
I’d be interested in knowing who suggested Gen. Petraeus’s ghost writer?
Cindy Munford on May 12, 2013 at 12:05 PM
I look forward to the day we see all of this corrected and the theives and liars are prosecuted. The American way.
VegasRick on May 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM
He is The First Black President.
He must be portrayed as brilliant, trustworthy, selfless, saintly, and angelic. He is beyond criticism and reproach. And he must be defended against the evil racist bigoted forces on the right. The MSM is engaging in affirmative action at the highest level.
farsighted on May 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Now with the IRS scandal dropping on top of Benghazi, the failure to stop the Boston Massacre, and in fact Zero’s policies contributing to it, Fast and Furious, Solyndra, and many others, the dam has broken.
The LSM sees it and they have started using the “I” word…
dogsoldier on May 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM
You have your marching orders. How nice. Do as you’re told .
CW on May 12, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Idiot?
VegasRick on May 12, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Yer silly. Try loosening your headband and lowering the volume on that Green Day CD you have set on “repeat”.
Mimzey on May 12, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Maybe it was an Ashley Madison hookup. ;-)
TXUS on May 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM
The I word? The only I word the LSM know is Idolatry when it comes to Obama. If they abandon him, it must be much much worse than anything we know now and they are trying to escape the lava flow with a few tatters of their careers.
clnurnberg on May 12, 2013 at 12:11 PM
…..a long time ago….or something…./
ted c on May 12, 2013 at 12:12 PM
“I still blame the video.”
antifed
VegasRick on May 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM
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