Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on June 17, 2012 by Allahpundit

How happy do you think Romney is that, two days after he committed to making his first non-Fox Sunday morning appearance of the year, The One dropped a DREAM Act bombshell on him? Now, instead of spending 20 minutes attacking Obama on the economy, he’ll spend 20 minutes squirming through questions about whether he’d reverse O’s decision as president, what he has in mind for his own version of DREAM, and whether he thinks it’s possible to avoid a complete intraparty clusterfark over this issue. Makes me wonder if the White House didn’t accelerate the timing of yesterday’s policy shift because they knew Romney had nowhere to hide this weekend.

Here’s the line-up via WaPo. Plouffe, McCain, Graham, even Kim Strassel of the amnesty-friendly Wall Street Journal: Is there a single person on any show this weekend who opposes DREAM on the merits? Rich Lowry’s the only possibility that I see. Pawlenty might privately oppose it too, but as a top Romney surrogate he’s not going to come out strongly against it. Especially in a forum as prominent as this.

NBC’s Meet the Press: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; David Maraniss, Washington Post; Doris Kearns Goodwin, presidential historian; Mark Halperin, Time; former Rep. Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN); Kim Strassel, Wall Street Journal

CBS’ Face the Nation: Mitt Romney; former Vermont Governor Howard Dean; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC); Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal; Rich Lowry, National Review; Jan Crawford, CBS; John Dickerson, CBS and Slate

ABC’s This Week: David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; former Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN); George Will, ABC News; Matthew Dowd, ABC News; former Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee; Katrina vanden Heuvel, The Nation

Fox News Sunday: David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT); Michael Hayden, former CIA Director; Bill Kristol, Weekly Standard; Joe Trippi, former Howard Dean campaign manager; Karl Rove, former Bush White House senior adviser; Juan Williams, Fox News


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Yup, give a neutral, non-binding answer to Amnesty-gate, then respond “Now, regarding the economy”…

hillsoftx on June 17, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Obama is a complete and utter vote whore. Amoral.incompetent.malignant narcissistic.w-h-o-r-e.

Conservchik on June 17, 2012 at 8:08 AM

This will certainly be a test of Romney’s ability to navigate the land mines Obama will be planting between now and November.

Night Owl on June 17, 2012 at 8:10 AM

I find it hard to believe the Won isn’t pissing off more people than he’s making happy out in the real world even if the list of guests on these pointless shows doesn’t reflect that. Basically saying you’ll refuse to enforce the law even though you’re on tape 6 months ago saying you can’t do what you just did can’t sit well with people.

gsherin on June 17, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Meet the Press is the true definition of Fair and Balanced.

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CorporatePiggy on June 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Yawn….. guess I’ll pass on McCain/Graham/Plouffe… switch on cooking instead.

kringeesmom on June 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

It’s good to see that Ed has dropped the “Obamaturism of the Day.” It’s becoming clearer each day that One-bama knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s staging a Marxist take over of America. The immigration ploy was a “lawless” grab for power.

Romney 2012: I’ll take the Mormon. You can keep the Moron.

NickDeringer on June 17, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Romney should just say, “I’ll neither propose nor oppose any bill or act concerning illegals living in this country until we have sealed the border. Now, on to the economy.”

And repeat that over and over again even if it takes up the entire segment.

Having said that, I agree with kringeesmom. I think I’ll go golfing instead.

predator on June 17, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Romney can point out that Obama is out of touch with those who need jobs and are in America legally, since he is adding to their competition for the few jobs being produced.

Also: It’s the tyranny, stupid.
Not enforcing laws because the pResident disagees is the stuff of dictators, including Obama. Romney can say that he will enforce the law, and work to pass laws that are in the public interest – not just the groups Obama wants to pander to for votes and then forget once he is re-elected.

WhatNot on June 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

I have to think independents will see this for what it is. There’s some hope when even a quasi-supportive Washington Post editorial, President Obama acts on immigration. Will Congress? includes the lines:

Instead the president is choosing to selectively enforce existing law. Is this how our system is supposed to work?

Sure, prosecutors always have to make choices and set priorities. But it is unsettling to see the president and his administration openly declare that they will not enforce a law on the books because they don’t think it’s a good law. The obvious political ramifications so close to an election, with Mr. Obama hoping to attract Latino votes, only heighten the unease.

Drained Brain on June 17, 2012 at 8:20 AM

there are 3 choices in this election.
1.vote for obama
2.vote for mitt
3. stay home

amesty mitt just increased #3 ten-fold by his squishy statement yesterday. he will continue to squirm today. obama will look strong and resolute.

mitts like the palestinians. turning victory into defeat.

renalin on June 17, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Romney’s response will be interesting because you know damn well his campaign has done some polling on this since Barack announced he would be ignoring a few more of the nation’s laws.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 8:23 AM

mitts like the palestinians. turning victory into defeat.

renalin on June 17, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Between comments like this and your unhinged ‘support’ of Palin, it is quite clear you are a union stooge or a DNC operative.

CorporatePiggy on June 17, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Obama is a complete and utter vote whore. Amoral.incompetent.malignant narcissistic.w-h-o-r-e.

Conservchik on June 17, 2012 at 8:08 AM

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Why are you being so lenient on Teh Won???

ExpressoBold on June 17, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Nah. This one Is easy.

He can say he will work with Marco Rubio and with Congress to draft a constitutionally sound piece of legislation rather than acting unilaterally and unconstitutionally. Also, he can state that his first priority is to protect Americans from the drug cartels and to stop the violence from seeping over the border.

bitsy on June 17, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Mitt should go on the attack. Accuse Obama of simply pandering with this illegal action. And stay on the attack.

JimK on June 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM

You say, “Obama’s economic policies have given us nearly 10% unemployment. Now he is adding 800,000 ILLEGAL immigrants into the job pool. Maskes perfect sense to me, Bob. How about you?”

Rohall1215 on June 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM

This is a golden opportunity for Romney’s campaign. He can own the news cycle going into Monday morning, or he can go weak and let Barack own it. The choice is his. I bet he’s been on the phone with Rubio all morning! Ha!

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 8:37 AM

drop an anvil on him, Mitt.

nominate marco rubio for VP a

ted c on June 17, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Romney’s response will be interesting because you know damn well his campaign has done some polling on this since Barack announced he would be ignoring a few more of the nation’s laws.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 8:23 AM

I’m sure his and Rubio’s voicemail and in boxes have been barraged by anti-amnesty voters. NumbersUSA had faxes ready to send about an hour after Mitt’s tepid, weak-kneed response. In trying to pander to a constituency that will never vote Republican, he’s pissing off the base that he barely has now.

TxAnn56 on June 17, 2012 at 8:41 AM

This is a golden opportunity for Romney’s campaign. He can own the news cycle going into Monday morning, or he can go weak and let Barack own it. The choice is his. I bet he’s been on the phone with Rubio all morning! Ha!

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Agreed – the Obama campaign gave Romney two days heads’ up to prepare their response for a national news show. Focus everything back on the economy and the miserable clusterfark the TOTUS is.

PatMac on June 17, 2012 at 8:42 AM

obviously Obama will do and say anything to hold onto his job

just keep repeating that- that no matter what the topic, obama will change his position to whatever he thinks will gain him more votes

AirForceCane on June 17, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Maybe say something like “Where Bob are we going to find all those dishwasher jobs?”…

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hillsoftx on June 17, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Between comments like this and your unhinged ‘support’ of Palin, it is quite clear you are a union stooge or a DNC operative.

CorporatePiggy on June 17, 2012 at 8:29 AM

i am self employed and have fiercly advocated against single payer and amnesty.

you on the other hand are clearly a romney supporter. have you meet a “joan” a fellow supporter of romney. everyone with half a brain can tell SHE’s the DNC shill. and where does she reside? in the romney camp of course. home of big government elitists who want to bring down the remaining middle class by throwing in over a million more workers into the pool.

and you know what. LATINOS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THE GOP cause they don’t give them free stuff.

so all of romneys pandering is going to do no good. the sick thing is….romney knows it. he’s employed illegals. his eyes got big and round when he saw the great job they did on his lawn. he simply doesn’t care cause in the end mitt will come out ahead.

happy fathers day

renalin on June 17, 2012 at 8:48 AM

I want to know how Teh Won plans to implement his new rule.

Key West Reader on June 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

predator on June 17, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Similar to what Predator said above, I think Romney should start with:

I will wait and see what Obama actually does (there is a big gap between his actions and his rhetoric) assess it and then make a decision about his executive order. However, we do need a permanent solution to regularizing entry into the United States enacted via the legislative process and that must include effective means of securing the border.

Thia should not offend anyone but the open borders crowd and slaps Obama for promising the Latinos alot but not delivering until Manana…

KW64 on June 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Happy Fathers Day to all of our HA Papas!!!

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 8:52 AM

If I were Romney, I’d put the focus back on Obama’s proposal, which is mighty thin on specifics by saying that he doesn’t know enough about what Obama plans to do, to say whether this is the right approach, whether the specifics of their plan would run into serious issues of constitutionality. I might even imply that, Obama were re-elected the economy tanks further with unemployment skyrocketing, and public opposition to it grows deafening, Obama might cancel the program (every Obama proposal has an expiration date), but use the list for deportation purposes, something Romney would certainly oppose.

Dusty on June 17, 2012 at 8:52 AM

the PLOUFFE factor it appears

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 8:52 AM

<blockquotNow, instead of spending 20 minutes attacking Obama on the economy, he’ll spend 20 minutes squirming through questions about whether he’d reverse O’s decision as presidentyepper….

cripe….

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 8:53 AM

ooopsie on the quote block…where’s that coffee?

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Dusty on June 17, 2012 at 8:52 AM

THIS

very good point Dusty….

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Rubio will be on CBS Sunday Morning, right before Romney’s appearance on FTN. That’ll give a heads up on what their response will be. No doubt they’ll be making coordinated statements.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

mitt will probably be asked ‘do you approve of the heckling that occurred’

never mind the shoe throwing towards bush that the lsm were thrilled about….

msdnc is focused on the heckling still and will probably continue wiht morning joe tomorrow am….

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Let’s say a Republican decides to not enforce laws which make abortion legal. Do the libs really want to see an end to the rule of law?

BryanS on June 17, 2012 at 9:00 AM

I think Romney ought to be able to handle this easily.

First, emphasize that Obama had the ability to pass something constitutionally between Jan 2009-Jan 2011. Why didn’t he?

Second, when Democrats eventually began pushing legislation, they pushed the DREAM Act, which provides for amnesty when 70% of Americans oppose amnesty.

Third, why did Obama take such an extra-constitutional action when Marco Rubio was working on a legitimate legislative solution?

Fourth, he’d never take such an extra-constitutional action on a domestic policy matter, and Americans can look forward to more diktats in a second Obama term–indeed, in a lameduck Obama period.

Fifth, is the estimate of 800,000 understated (some say it’ll be two or three times that number) and what will be the effect of these newly licensed workers on employment prospects for citizens in this Obama economy when employers are holding their collective breath for an Obama loss in November?

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Rubio will be on CBS Sunday Morning, right before Romney’s appearance on FTN. That’ll give a heads up on what their response will be. No doubt they’ll be making coordinated statements.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

I wonder if he’ll repeat his “deportation leniency is welcome news” comment. He’s in full RINO mode now.

TxAnn56 on June 17, 2012 at 9:01 AM

mitt will probably be asked ‘do you approve of the heckling that occurred’

never mind the shoe throwing towards bush that the lsm were thrilled about….

msdnc is focused on the heckling still and will probably continue wiht morning joe tomorrow am….

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

The Obamamedia is overplaying its hand on this one. I’ve been watching the comments on sites like CNN on this story, and they are 90-1 saying “Give me a break. Look at how GWB was treated. Barack isn’t a king.” These “journalists” are really revealing themselves, chastising a fellow reporter for…asking a question of the president. They’ve become his palace guard, and now people are seeing it quite clearly.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM

cripe msdnc is just thrilled that dear leader is exercising his authority on this amnesty issue….

wheres all the outrage?????? W never pulled this kind of crap

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Obama is fixing unemployment huh – tell me more about how letting 800,000.00 Illegals work is going to help Americans find jobs.

Dr Evil on June 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

ABC’s This Week: David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; former Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN); George Will, ABC News; Matthew Dowd, ABC News; former Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee; Katrina vanden Heuvel, The Nation

I love how they stack these shows. Plouffe-Goolsbee-vanden Heuvel (a complete nut) offset by a reporter, Milt-Milquetoast Pawlenty and George Will.

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Ugh. I’m trying to watch CBS Sunday Morning to watch Rubio, but I never watch these network shows and the pomposity is grating. The host’s solemn voice, the music, the “seriousness” of every previewed story. It is entirely unwatchable. Good Lord. Do people watch this on a regular basis? Hideous. Truly hideous, like a parody of self-important, way down on the food chain royals. Ugh.

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Plouffie: “… one of the US attorney’s chosen to investigate the security leaks was a Bush appointee.”
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So is this a preamble to Blame Bush, the trademark Øbama reason for failure and corruption?
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He has made the same remark every time he alerts us that two attorneys have been chosen to investigate.

ExpressoBold on June 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

mittens milquetoast is a complete and utter disaster…NOMITTNOBAMA 2012!

mittens is a spineless democrat in gop clothing…yuck and ick!

Pragmatic on June 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

even candy crowley doesn’t believe plouffe that this wasn’t done for political reasons….PUHLEEZE

and still lying through his teeth that no one in the wh leaked classified informaiton….

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Mitt could definitely use the latest blatant Obamapander to his advantage by indeed calling it cheap pandering in the face of Zero’s failure to improve the economy. He needs to keep hitting on the economy (Have we slipped back into recession yet?) and express that the GOP has a long-term solution to immigration reform.

It is time for Mitt to be specific about why we should vote for him.

Philly on June 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Happy, happy Father’s Day to you, Ed. I hope you enjoy the blessings of this day!

All the best to the HA fathers out there, as well : )))))))). (for the golfers among you, 17 year old Bo Hossler, the amateur, is beating Tiger going into the final round!). The Big Scot will be firmly ensconced in front of the TV this afternoon : ))))))

herm2416 on June 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Obama is fixing unemployment huh – tell me more about how letting 800,000.00 Illegals work is going to help Americans find jobs.

Dr Evil on June 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Also, what strains on what safety-net programs will these people create now that they’re legally recognized but they may be unemployed?

I suppose this program could be rationalized if it were cast as guest-worker-visa program, but that would require that they be employed. If not employed, boot ‘em. Why should they be a charge on society?

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

O/T Allen West coming up on Fox & Friends to talk about this.

bluefox on June 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM

+1

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Bob Scheiffer opening question to Romney…

why are you so evil?……why does your party preach hate……and that cult u belong too…..are you really going to Lord over a whole planet of women?

Economy? What economy?

PappyD61 on June 17, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Obama is fixing unemployment huh – tell me more about how letting 800,000.00 Illegals work is going to help Americans find jobs.

[Dr Evil on June 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM]

Logic requires the conclusion Obama doesn’t think unemployment is as high as it should be and he’d like to see it go higher.

Dusty on June 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM

David Plouffe lying again. Water is still wet.

22044 on June 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM

PappyD61 on June 17, 2012 at 9:14 AM

not surprised at all…let’s not focus on dear leader’s failures…no, that won’t do

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Give Romney a break; he hasn’t let us down yet. He has to thread the needle on the immigration issue; this is essentially the only issue that could defeat him in November.

matthew8787 on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

I just caught up on the news this morning for last week and took the time to watch the Martin Bashir “Bus Tour” piece. I really do not think it’s possible for the Leftist media to get worse. Unless they drop the pretense in their reporting and call outright for people to commit violence on those they disagree with, the Left has reached the end of the road with any perception of objective reporting.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

On ABC, Dowd, talking about cutting spending, said, “My sons say that they’ll cut the lawn, but I don’t believe them until they actually mow the lawn.”

Goolsbee and vanden Heuvel were clearly vexed.

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

scary ain’t it…i’m sure they are calling for it behind closed doors…

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

matthew8787 on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

As long as “cutting him slack” doesn’t mean we’re going to grant more illegal immigrants citizenship because we’re afraid to do what’s right. No Conservative should be retreating on this issue.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Rational Thought on June 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM

I agree. The segment on why boys aren’t graduating college anywhere near the rate of girls was nauseating. Their genius reason was that boys still have that “John Wayne” mentality that is outdated and useless in today’s society. I never watch this stuff either, and it’s good to know I’m not missing anything.

Night Owl on June 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

It’s going to get worse, as they attempt to defend their messiah’s ignorance.

kingsjester on June 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I’m in EST. On ABC, they’ll be coming back from the commercial to discuss the heckler.

Did anyone see the Newsbusters post about Reagan-heckling from the 1980s?

Memo to outraged liberals: “D’oh!”

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

scary ain’t it…i’m sure they are calling for it behind closed doors…

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

To be a fly on the wall at CNN or MSNBC.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

“This is not a political move,” Plouffe said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “This builds on a lot of steps we’ve already taken.”

via politico

LIAR

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

The press and campaign minions will double down on illegal aliens, completely ignoring that we accept a million new legal immigrants every year, more than all the other nations combined.

The majority of American’s are fed up with this country being a mess the dysfunctional government’s refusal to get off their agenda and onto the business of the people is very big deal and the cost(s) of those here without our permission is a big part of that.

The open borders enablers have a much better chance to enrage the public than gather votes for Democrats.

Speakup on June 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

It is time for Mitt to be specific about why we should vote for him.

Philly on June 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Yes, he does, and he’s not going to do that by following his fans’ advice of dodging every sticky issue by telling us only how sucky the economy is.

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

I suppose this program could be rationalized if it were cast as guest-worker-visa program, but that would require that they be employed. If not employed, boot ‘em. Why should they be a charge on society?

[BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM]

Here’s what I’d like to know. What program are they going to fit it into and what are the requirements of that program. I could be wrong, but I think those programs are defined by legislation, so either Obama is going to legislate a new program executively, which makes it ripe for being struck down by the courts, or he’ll put it in an existing program which has all sorts of caveats — like H-1B which requires the temp worker to leave the country if he loses his job. Ooopsie!

The bottom line, IMO, is that Obama and his crony’s were so hep on announcing this that they didn’t think it out and it will be a disaster. It will be an especially big disaster for those who apply, ’cause they’ll then be on the list.

Oh, and another thing. Obama has placed a lot of eligibility requirements on this program. What happens to all those who apply and get denied for not meeting those requirements? Like I said this is a disaster waiting to happen.

Dusty on June 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

sam donaldson indeed…but he insists it’s because obama is black, nothing more

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

crony’s = cronies

Dusty on June 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Hawk, nothing good can be done on illegal immigration unless and until Romney is elected. Obama is an enemy of our soveirgnty.

matthew8787 on June 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

George S. just said on ABC that Obama tried legislatively, so he had to do something.

WTF?

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Dusty on June 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

agree and then once mitt becomes president how can they stop it midstream…

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Give Romney a break; he hasn’t let us down yet. He has to thread the needle on the immigration issue; this is essentially the only issue that could defeat him in November.

matthew8787 on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

No, he doesn’t have to thread any damn needle. He has to tell us what he believes. Voters are damn tired of polticians mouthing only what the latest polls tell them.

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

kingsjester on June 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

We’ll see. WI recall came and went peacefully enough. But the media really needs to tone it down. Some nut taking the exploding bus imagery from Bashir’s report and trying to bring it to reality is pretty scary.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Perfect answer for Mitt:

Explains that with the econimy as bad as it is, why would anyone want to put another 800K on unemployment. And explain that since it is difficult for everyone else to find work, why would anyone want to make it more difficult for these 800K to find work, since now that they can get work permits, employers are also required to pay these people minumum wage.

Employers will be required to be bound by govt requirements, and these will now have part of their wages taken away for SS, which no one under the age of 55 will ever see.

The idiot in the WH is becoming dubmber by the day.

ConservativePartyNow on June 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

puhleeze, they tried to pass the bil in a DEM CONTROLLED HOUSE and SENATE and IT FAILED, did it not?

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Give Romney a break; he hasn’t let us down yet. He has to thread the needle on the immigration issue; this is essentially the only issue that could defeat him in November.

matthew8787 on June 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

no more wimps in the white house…no to mittens milquetoast and barak “I’m an America-hating socialist” Obama!

NOMITTNOBAMA 2012!

neither deserve my vote..do they deserve yours?

Pragmatic on June 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Katrina vanden Heuvel just equated the Obama’s move to the Emancipation Proclamation.

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Pragmatic on June 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

you can go back to the couch now

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

*vomit inducing*

i was going to tape the show, I think i’ll pass now…

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Katrina vanden Heuvel just equated the Obama’s move to the Emancipation Proclamation.

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Why they think these Nation-type flakes have a legitimate worthwhile opinion is beyond me.

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Self Deportation…That should solve this immigration issue once and for all-Sketch Coreless

Uppereastside on June 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Sad to see people like Pawlenty and Will repeatedly using the left’s language “through no fault of they’re own” rather than something like “innocent children brought illegally to this country by adults who violated our immigration laws.”

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Makes me wonder if the White House didn’t accelerate the timing of yesterday’s policy shift because they knew Romney had nowhere to hide this weekend.

That would be the only smart thing the Obama campaign has done in months.

itsnotaboutme on June 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Self Deportation…

Uppereastside on June 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Well, that was the primaries and debates, when this was the one domestic issue on which Romney could look conservative. I doubt he’ll be uttering those words anymore until November. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out for amnesty.

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

George Will is schooling the panel on their accusations of GOP extremism.

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

agree

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM

i can see the debates now in the fall….gay marriage, immigration…ANYTHING but the economy

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

George Will is schooling the panel on their accusations of GOP extremism.

BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

It will fall on deaf ears, 5 seconds after George is done, they be right back to calling the GOP extremists.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

NBC’s Meet the Press: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); David Plouffe, White House senior adviser; David Maraniss, Washington Post; Doris Kearns Goodwin, presidential historian; Mark Halperin, Time; former Rep. Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN); Kim Strassel, Wall Street Journal

5 libs (6 if you count the host) to 2 on the Right.

Typical line-up for NBC.

itsnotaboutme on June 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

The best attack against obama:

1. he uses executive orders un-lawfully
2. he refuses to work with BOTH parties in Congress
3. the excessive use of executive orders weakens this country and shows his absolute lack of leadership

That’s all Mitt and his supporters need to talk about and those talking points are not a dodge.

uber-con on June 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

i can see the debates now in the fall….gay marriage, immigration…ANYTHING but the economy

cmsinaz on June 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Probably, but then that’s the risk you take when you nominate a one-dimensional, one-note candidate.

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Self Deportation…That should solve this immigration issue once and for all-Sketch Coreless

Uppereastside on June 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

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So, when do you leave?

listens2glenn on June 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Katrina vanden Heuvel just equated the Obama’s move to the Emancipation Proclamation.

[BuckeyeSam on June 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM]

Yuppers. I remember reading in grade school about Lincoln announcing that slaves would be free for two years.

Dusty on June 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Pragmatic on June 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

FWIW and in my opinion only. Whatever you used to contribute to the dialog here has descended to troll status. Old, broken and repeated. You no longer make any buzz that you’re not voting. There’s no “revelation”. You say it on every thread. Fine, everyone gets it. The only logical explanation to your efforts here is that you’re trying to depress the vote for Romney by making this sophomoric claim that there is some equivalence between these two candidates. There isn’t. Until Mitt Romney demonstrates some behavior that gives credence to the fertilizer you’re trying to sell from the back of your wagon, he does deserve the Conservative vote. Personally, I like that he has come out swinging. Unlike McCain, so far he fights.

If I would king, I’d ban-hammer you for lacking the ability to say what you’re pushing in any other way that what you constantly cut and paste to all of our utter irritation.

FWIW

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

You too.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

You too.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Banned for thinking and saying the truth: that Romney’s a weak candidate. How totalitarian of you.

ddrintn on June 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Uppereastside on June 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

You’re no less irritating but at least you acknowledge you’re a liberal. Unlike these very very very concerned republicans and libertarians that claim Romney’s not getting their vote.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

You too.

hawkdriver on June 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Hooray!

bluealice on June 17, 2012 at 9:53 AM

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