Oh, goody: Yet another crucially important, last-chance climate conference

posted at 2:46 pm on June 17, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development, otherwise known as the Rio+20 Earth Summit, is scheduled to take place this week in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The mega-conference is being heralded by many as perhaps “one of the most important gatherings of our generation” and “too important to fail” — yes, because we’ve never heard either of those before.

Despite the United Nation‘s frenzied scaremongering, the conference is apparently having difficulty drumming up both enthusiasm and specific goals.

Even as the effects of global warming stare delegations in the face, they are struggling to deliver anything but a process, or a promise to talk more later.

“To be honest, we aren’t expecting a great deal out of this conference,” [Canada's Environment Minister Peter Kent] said in an interview with The Canadian Press before leaving for Rio.

He said Canada and its allies are pushing for “realistic and pragmatic” outcomes, but instead see their negotiators bogged down in an unwieldy text that can’t even succinctly define “green economy” or “sustainable development.” …

It’s too easy, Kent said, for countries to adopt catchphrases at a conference that in the light of the day either mean very little, or have unintended consequences on domestic policy.

“We’re really just at a beginning point here.” …

“We just aren’t seeing people arriving in the frame of mind to make significant progress towards significant commitments. And we clearly need that.” …

The aim is create political momentum for a green economy around the world — an economy that does not destroy the environment, but also alleviates poverty and inequality.

At least they’re sort of cottoning on to the idea that prosperity and environmental quality are not mutually exclusive — quite the opposite, actually — but forcing wind and solar upon the masses is not the way to accomplish that prosperous-yet-green economy they’re striving for.
Regardless, the fact of the matter is that when the world’s worries are consumed with debt crises and fiscal sustainability, people just don’t have the time or the luxury to care about partaking in grandiose environmental mega-treaties (not that I endorse that kind of thing anyway). It’s got to be a huge blow to morale that, even though there will be over one hundred other world leaders there, the President of the United States is too busy to show up; he’s got bigger fish to fry on the international scene:

Mexican President Felipe Calderon still clings to the hope that when he convenes the G-20 summit in Los Cabos on Monday, the assembled world leaders will focus on an agenda heavy with green jobs, climate change, and policies for the developing world. But with Greece reeling, Spain tottering, and European instability threatening economic recovery around the world, Calderon might as well throw out the official agenda and be prepared for lots of talk about Europe.

And much of that talk — some of it in public, even more in private, one-one-one discussions — will come from President Obama after his Sunday night arrival from Chicago. The stakes couldn’t be higher for a president running for reelection. The worsening European instability threatens the already less-than-robust American recovery and, with that, threatens his hopes for a second term.

Calderon this week pleaded with the other leaders not to let what he called “the urgency” of the eurozone crisis “distract our attention from more important details or the most important problems for humanity.” But the leaders, who represent 90 percent of the world’s gross domestic product, are already distracted.

Last year, the G-20 summit turned out to be all about Greece’s troubles, and it looks like the same is likely to be true this year.

Environmental concerns just wane in the face of recession, and contrary to popular belief, wealthier societies are healthier societies. When people are living in poverty, burning their refuse and scratching out survival, they don’t have the time or resources to devote to stewarding their surroundings. Technology and innovation lead to people living cleaner, more efficient, as well as more productive lives. Strive for prosperity first, and environmental quality will follow.

While, in true progressive fashion, environmentalists tend to turn toward big government and global initiatives as the only means to force people to change their ways, the many inefficiencies and oversights inherent in such top-down directives are not the best way to ensure environmental quality — the secondary effects, imperfect knowledge, and unintended consequences are too myriad.

So, again, while I do not endorse big-government and/or global climate-change initiatives, let’s get our priorities in line and get our fiscal houses in order before we jump the gun with more expensive environmentalist boondoggles.


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Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads…!

:)

Seven Percent Solution on June 17, 2012 at 2:50 PM

It will probably snow there for the first time in history.

VegasRick on June 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM

So, again, while I do not endorse big-government and/or global climate-change initiatives, let’s get our priorities in line and get our fiscal houses in order before we jump the gun with more expensive environmentalist boondoggles.

If you don’t support climate-change initiatives, then let’s not and say we did.

It’s bunk, and I don’t care to hear it, in good fiscal times or bad.

Stoic Patriot on June 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Manbearpig still on the loose!

BTW if anyone has never seen that episode of South Park, go watch it. One of the most brilliant pieces of political satire ever. Al Gore was never the same after being skewered by Matt and Trey

1984 in real life on June 17, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Well you can bet your bippy bho will give billions upon billions for the krap just to say he CAN! Afterall, bho is dictator/king of the US in his mind!
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letget on June 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I hear Rio’s beautiful this time of year…

OmahaConservative on June 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Manbearpig still on the loose!

BTW if anyone has never seen that episode of South Park, go watch it. One of the most brilliant pieces of political satire ever. Al Gore was never the same after being skewered by Matt and Trey

1984 in real life on June 17, 2012 at 2:53 PM

For those interested, here it is.

Flange on June 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Mexican President Felipe Calderon still clings to the hope that when he convenes the G-20 summit in Los Cabos on Monday, the assembled world leaders will focus on an agenda heavy with green jobs, climate change, and policies free money for the developing world corrupt leaders in Mexico.

FIFM

WhatNot on June 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM

What I do not understand is the way enviros play fast and loose with their own morals. They are downright puritanical when it comes to carbon footprints and energy in the US but give all the developing countries of the world a pass because they do not know better.

If something is wrong, it is always wrong. When you bend your own morals, you only reveal how little you respect your own vaunted ideals.

StubbleSpark on June 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM

It sure isn’t 2007-08 anymore :)

thebrokenrattle on June 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM

But will there be hookers?

RalphyBoy on June 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I’m sure all of the jets used for flying the partipants there and the armored SUVs/limos they will be shuttled around in will have ZERO impact on the climate. They’ll buy carbon credits, I know.

Philly on June 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM

It’s nothing but wealth transfer. Kill it. And I would love to see the people behind this scam in prison.

Blake on June 17, 2012 at 3:03 PM

I wonder when they’ll have one of their conferences in Duluth, Mn or Toledo, Ohio.

CW on June 17, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Oh, goody: Yet another crucially important, last-chance climate conference

Things to do while Rome Athens is burning.

Dr Evil on June 17, 2012 at 3:07 PM

What I do not understand is the way enviros play fast and loose with their own morals. They are downright puritanical when it comes to carbon footprints and energy in the US but give all the developing countries of the world a pass because they do not know better.

If something is wrong, it is always wrong. When you bend your own morals, you only reveal how little you respect your own vaunted ideals.

StubbleSpark on June 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM

You have to have morals to play fast and loose with your morals. The environs are Watermelons, environmentally green on the outside, but Marxist red to the core. their only morals or ethics are that “The Ends Justify the Means”. It only seems like they are playing fast and loose with their morals, in reality since they don’t have any morals or ethics they actually are not.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Has it snowed yet?

upinak on June 17, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Technology and innovation lead to people living cleaner, more efficient, as well as more productive lives. Strive for prosperity first, and environmental quality will follow.

…we need to tell someone!

KOOLAID2 on June 17, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Has it snowed yet?

upinak on June 17, 2012 at 3:11 PM

…they’re not snorting yet!

KOOLAID2 on June 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM

But the MET office already said the Earth has been cooling. If the hypothesis was that increasing carbon emissions would bring a constant and consistent rise in temperatures, why would you support any climate initiatives bad economy or not?

oldroy on June 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Has it snowed yet?

upinak on June 17, 2012 at 3:11 PM

ROTFLMAO… Funny thing is…. It is actually winter right now in Rio.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:16 PM

ROTFLMAO… Funny thing is…. It is actually winter right now in Rio.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I rest my case.

upinak on June 17, 2012 at 3:22 PM

For those unaware, winter in Rio de Janeiro is during the West’s Summer. Winter starts in late June early July and goes till later August early September.

So, holding their golbull Warming conference in Rio, during the winter is a huge intentional psychological lie. Rio is practically on the equator, so it never get’s super cold, so they will be telling two separate lies at the same time. 1) look how warm it is in Rio, this is obviously proof of globull warming. 2) they are counting on Westerners not from South America to know that the winter month in south America are during the Norther Hemisphere’s summer, or that Rio is a equatorial climate.

That is a lot of intentional deceit.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Mexican President Felipe Calderon

I was born in Texas and will live nowhere else.The only place hotter around here is MEXICO.Always has been and always will be.He could care less about the climate.All he sees is money.

docflash on June 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

An Iceberg in the Room
Its gone and happened. There is an iceberg that’s suddenly taking up half the space of this climate change debate, and this iceberg is crunching against the wall in some spots.

That iceberg… is conservative opinion that against AGW theory.

An earlier Pew poll showed only 19% of Republicans believed in man-made global warming. Adding to an increasing sense that this Pew poll result is no fluke, is a new poll showing only 17% of conservative Canadians (voted for the Tories) “are concerned” about global warming: http://www.660news.com/news/local/article/365630–new-poll-says-global-warming-is-not-a-major-environmental-concern
And if you understand the dynamic behind this overwhelming conservative rejection of the scare-mongering Chicken Littles, you know that this iceberg is not going to melt easily. The leftists who support the warmist agenda will continue doing what they normally do, acting as if this massive iceberg is not there. They’ll duck beside and underneath the ice, squeeze in and out, and continue like mindless robots repeating their never ending proclamations of doom. And they will occasionally make reference to how “conservatives are resistant” to their persuasions, but eventually they’ll have to recognize that this iceberg is not going away. Indeed, the iceberg will only grow, and start to impart its coldness for the AGW theory to others, like independents, the media, a lot of Democrats (surprise!), and beyond the American shores.

anotherJoe on June 17, 2012 at 3:26 PM

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

*shrugs*

Little miracles can happen.

upinak on June 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM

So where are all those GREEN jobs in Mexico?? Is China and India going to stop building coal plants — or will they open their plants to international testing. The Green conference is one hypocrisy after another.

KenInIL on June 17, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Hope Inhofe shows up and tells them that they will never get any climate change agreement through the U.S. Senate!

Christian Conservative on June 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Rio

In June.

Finally the idiots are wising up to the fact that it’s better to hold these things in favorable climates…..in early summer.

Guess this Global Warming conference won’t be “snowed in”.

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Rio

In June.

Finally the idiots are wising up to the fact that it’s better to hold these things in favorable climates…..in early summer.

Guess this Global Warming conference won’t be “snowed in”.

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Ummm, it’s winter in Rio right now.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Ummm, it’s winter in Rio right now.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:36 PM

lol….well then….shows you exactly what I know.

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 3:37 PM

“Give us all your money or we’re all gonna die.”

There, I just saved you a plane ride.

Meric1837 on June 17, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Geologist Dr. Sebastian Lüning and Prof. Fritz Vahrenholt found a Japanese tree-ring temperature reconstruction from 1995, one that should have been heeded by the IPCC and Michael Mann before they took the world on a 10-year joyride in the stolen car of “climate science”.

J_Crater on June 17, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Ummm, it’s winter in Rio right now.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:36 PM

lol….well then….shows you exactly what I know.

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 3:37 PM

I made a comment about that up a few comments. Most people in the Northern Hemisphere are not aware that the winter months in the Southern hemisphere are during the Northern hemispheres summer. Like I said in my other post, this is a complex deception holding the golbull warming Conference in Rio, during Rio’s winter.

Rio is also in an equatorial climate, so it never really get’s what people in the Northern Hemisphere consider cold. It does get a lot of tropical rain, which undoubtedly those sponsoring the conference will claim is proof of globull warming, even though it is 100 percent normal for Rio this time of year.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Wow! Didn’t mean anything by that. Whoa!

mickytx on June 17, 2012 at 3:47 PM

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:36 PM

June is indeed the coldest average month in Rio:

Average High: 77 F

Average Low: 66 F

Oddly – Hottest Month (Feb) only:

Average High: 86 F

Average Low: 74 F

Nice temperate climate….less chances of embarassing surprises.

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Perhaps a different tact.
Eriika, great stuff.
There was a little 7% in there as well.
That’s fine praise 7. Echoed.

mickytx on June 17, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development, otherwise known as the Rio+20 Earth Summit, is scheduled to take place this week in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The mega-conference is being heralded by many as perhaps “one of the most important gatherings of our generation” and “too important to fail” — yes, because we’ve never heard either of those before.

excerpt: Erika Johnsen

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Heard either of what before? . . . . Ohhh, this:

But whatever critics might say won’t matter tomorrow if we don’t address growing climate change-related problems now — including food and water shortages, rising oceans, increased natural disasters and growing pollution that threatens our health.

excerpt by: FRANCES BEINECKE Politico Op-Ed

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Gee, I wonder if Maurice Strong will be there? . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes, he will.

listens2glenn on June 17, 2012 at 3:54 PM

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I think most are talking about the Al Gore globull snow effect. If he Builds it, is shall snow.

upinak on June 17, 2012 at 3:57 PM

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I think most are talking about the Al Gore globull snow effect. If he Builds it, is shall snow.

upinak on June 17, 2012 at 3:57 PM

ROTFLMAO… And I am 100 percent ok with that… ;) It’s just that it just doesn’t snow in Rio. But man at this time of year, it rains like nobody’s business.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 4:02 PM

FIFM

WhatNot on June 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Eggzactly!

roy_batty on June 17, 2012 at 4:03 PM

“Turn U.S. sovereignty over to the One World Government Give us all your money or we’re all gonna die.”

Meric1837 on June 17, 2012 at 3:41 PM

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You’re not wrong Meric’, this just “cuts to the chase.”

listens2glenn on June 17, 2012 at 4:03 PM

well…the weather is very pleasant in Rio today and this week. So per usual the leftists can have fun in the sun while planning the global schemes to defraud the rich countries…and skim off a chunk for themselves…and then give some crumbs to the poor countries

trickle down corruption…the chicago way

http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/Rio+de+Janeiro+BRXX0201:1:BR

r keller on June 17, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Maybe Felipe Calderon can send Barry a “Thank you” card for all the added income that will now flow to Mexico via Barrys Dream Act.

GarandFan on June 17, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I cannot wait for the day that the UN becomes irrelevant.

ButterflyDragon on June 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 3:37 PM

I made a comment about that up a few comments. Most people in the Northern Hemisphere are not aware that the winter months in the Southern hemisphere are during the Northern hemispheres summer. Like I said in my other post, this is a complex deception holding the golbull warming Conference in Rio, during Rio’s winter.

Rio is also in an equatorial climate, so it never really get’s what people in the Northern Hemisphere consider cold. It does get a lot of tropical rain, which undoubtedly those sponsoring the conference will claim is proof of globull warming, even though it is 100 percent normal for Rio this time of year.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Because they went to public schools and didn’t pay attention.

boardy9 on June 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I cannot wait for the day that the UN becomes irrelevant.

ButterflyDragon on June 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM

That day has come and gone a waaaaaay long time ago. It’s like unions, the only reason it’s still around is because the people in charge get to screw everyone else out of a lot of money.

Cyhort on June 17, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Because they went to public schools and didn’t pay attention.

boardy9 on June 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM

That makes the assumption that schools teach stuff like that, and why would they when it obviously pales in comparison to really important stuff like, Why Tommy has Two Mommies, Globull Warming, or The 812 ways in which Barack Obama is superior to every other living human being on the planet.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 4:52 PM

I cannot wait for the day that the UN becomes irrelevant.

ButterflyDragon on June 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM

That day has come and gone a waaaaaay long time ago. It’s like unions, the only reason it’s still around is because the people in charge get to screw everyone else out of a lot of money.

Cyhort on June 17, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Yup, I look forward to the day the UN no longer exists.

Fallon on June 17, 2012 at 4:52 PM

The Marxist-infested UN so badly wants to be the global “Handicapper General”. Western (ie – “White”) Nations must have their “47# handicap bag” attached.

Kungfoochimp on June 17, 2012 at 4:54 PM

So, again, while I do not endorse big-government and/or global climate-change initiatives,

I’m gratified to see that HA commentators aren’t rabidly denialist any more (even Ed Morrissey has seen the light). However, George Bush called for voluntary action to combat human-induced climate change. That “voluntary action” never really materialized. So, when “voluntary action” doesn’t work (voluntary on the part of individuals and/or countries), what, then would would, Ms. Johnsen?

oakland on June 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

An earlier Pew poll showed only 19% of Republicans believed in man-made global warming.

Maybe we can just poll it away, or vote it away. It sure would be nice if nature were subject to our democratic whims. Unfortunately, nature is the ultimate dictatorship.

oakland on June 17, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Manbearpig still on the loose!

BTW if anyone has never seen that episode of South Park, go watch it. One of the most brilliant pieces of political satire ever. Al Gore was never the same after being skewered by Matt and Trey

1984 in real life on June 17, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Excelsior!

Kenosha Kid on June 17, 2012 at 5:36 PM

The aim is create political momentum for a green economy around the world — an economy that does not destroy the environment, but also alleviates poverty and inequality.

Smoking hopium again. A green economy will make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

chemman on June 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Interesting unknown: Mysterious Radiation Burst Recorded in Tree Rings

slickwillie2001 on June 17, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Because they went to public schools and didn’t pay attention.

boardy9 on June 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM

lol…I find that not paying attention to what I learned in public schools to oft-times be quite helpful actually…..but whatever makes ya feel good sparky!

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 6:34 PM

For those interested, here it is.

Flange on June 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Thanks. I didn’t know where the ‘ManBearPig’ thing came from although it describes algore perfectly without knowing.

TfromV on June 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Oakland you know one song. Boring dupe.

CW on June 17, 2012 at 9:16 PM

oakland on June 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM
oakland on June 17, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I suppose, then, that we can count you among the hold-out cultists who still believe in the scam that is “global warming”.
Too bad the evidence isn’t on your side.

Solaratov on June 17, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Too bad the evidence isn’t on your side

Solaratov on June 17, 2012 at 9:18 PM

My “side”? What is this, a sports event?

I believe what the data shows, what I experience, and that the great majority of climate scientists are competent.

You may not, but that’s your choice.

oakland on June 17, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Oakland – any ideas on why high priest Gore refuses to debate anyone regarding AGW? It’s not for lack of debating experience (odd, looming, coming out from behind behavior notwithstanding). He said “the debate is over” before having the debate. If the facts are on his side, he should be able to mop the floor with Lord Christopher Monckton. Guess they’re not.

Kungfoochimp on June 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Oddly aggressive little religion.

John the Libertarian on June 17, 2012 at 9:58 PM

great majority of climate scientists are competent.

LOL!

tom daschle concerned on June 17, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Oddly aggressive little religion.

John the Libertarian on June 17, 2012 at 9:58 PM

The “East Anglian” sect is my favorite.

Tim_CA on June 17, 2012 at 10:10 PM

If we don’t give full control fo the economy to the communists scientists the world will end by 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 2010 2020!

How can you doubt our flawless track record?

gekkobear on June 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Instead, Rio+20 seeks to shift international focus to “biodiversity” and supposed threats to plant and animal species as the new “greatest threat” facing planet Earth. This rebranding is “by design,” according to conference organizers, who have been uncharacteristically candid in describing sustainable development and biodiversity as an “easier sell” than climate change. It’s a simpler path to advance the same radical goals.

J_Crater on June 18, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Calderon this week pleaded with the other leaders not to let what he called “the urgency” of the eurozone crisis “distract our attention from more important details or the most important problems for humanity.”

Yeh, because when you’re the president of a third world country – things like the imminent collapse of Europe and the ensuing sh!t storm – just don’t seem to matter.

And let me guess… these “important details or the most important problems for humanity” involves massive amounts of money coming out of our economy and going into yours. Am I right?

Hill60 on June 18, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Rent seekers. Frauds.

petefrt on June 18, 2012 at 2:39 AM

The greenies are certain that the big technological breakthrough is only one or two government grants away. You would deny our future for a measly few billion dollars?

SKYFOX on June 18, 2012 at 5:54 AM

Rio 1992

“”What if a small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principal risk to the Earth comes from the actions of rich countries? And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it? The group’s conclusion is “no.” The rich countries won’t do it. They won’t change. So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about? This group of world leaders form a secret society to bring about an economic collapse. ” — Maurice Strong, secretary general, 1992 UN Conference on Environment and Development “

Rio+20 2012 lather rinse repeat

DANEgerus on June 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Every year, millions of people die from hunger or lack of access to clean water. That is a far greater problem than “global warming.” If the “greenies” are interested in saving lives and humanity, why aren’t they digging water wells in Africa? (Because Rio is more fun than a scorched desert?)

Colony14 on June 18, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite. It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

J_Crater on June 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM