Julian Assange not doing much better in court than Manning

posted at 12:31 pm on June 17, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

While most of the stories regarding Wikileaks which make the pages of good old Hot Gas tend to follow the continuing adventures of Bradley Manning, it’s worth noting that the founder of the document dump is having legal problems of his own. Julian Assange is still in the UK and has been fighting extradition to Sweden on charges of rape and sexual assault. Let’s just say that Thursday wasn’t his day.

The Supreme Court has dismissed a bid by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to reopen his appeal against extradition to Sweden over alleged sex crimes.

Seven judges of Britain’s top court unanimously dismissed the move by Mr Assange as being “without merit”.

Two weeks ago the court rejected his argument that a European arrest warrant for extradition was invalid.

He still has one shot left, in the form of an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) but that’s not expected to get very far. Failing that, Assange should be shipped off for a tour of Sweden’s criminal justice system some time between June 28 and July 7.

But for a look at the type of coverage the European media provides, you’ll get a real eye-full from PressTV. These guys not only treat both Assange and Manning like national heroes, but promote every kind of conspiracy theory about them.

Concerns are being voiced over the UK Supreme Court’s ruling on the extradition case of Julian Assange saying he could face the same fate as that of US army private Bradley Manning…

Following the release of documents, Bradley Manning, a US army soldier, was arrested in Iraq over the suspicion that he had passed the classified documents to Assange.

Media reports said he was subject to torture. Assange and Manning have been targeted by the US government as criminals and concerns are being voiced over what Assange’s extradition to Sweden could lead to.

In an interview with Russia’s English news channel Russia Today, author and activist David Swanson said the US government “has issued a secret closed indictment and pressured other governments in Britain and in Sweden to ship Julian Assange to the US”.

In 2010, The Independent revealed that informal talks had been held between Sweden and the US about Assange’s “temporary surrender” to the US.

If that’s the only kind of coverage you’re seeing, it’s no wonder that the stories about these guys turn into massive conspiracy theory fodder on the web. As far as “secret indictments” go, I’m still not entirely sure what Assange could be charged with in the United States even if we got hold of him. I also don’t recall the President demonstrating much interest in getting his hands on the man either. But that all may wind up being irrelevant if the Swedes toss him into a cell someplace for the next few years.


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Merrittlessness, Good.

Bmore on June 17, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Has he been deported? Then he’s doing pretty good. Remember that dope who hacked into various US computer systems post 2001? Well, 10 years and we are still trying to deport him from the UK.

Blake on June 17, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Concerns are being voiced over the UK Supreme Court’s ruling on the extradition case of Julian Assange saying he could face the same fate as that of US army private Bradley Manning

How can a non-US citizen be convicted of treason against the US and spend life in Leavenworth?

rbj on June 17, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Concerns are being voiced over the UK Supreme Court’s ruling on the extradition case of Julian Assange saying he could face the same fate as that of US army private Bradley Manning…

You couldn’t mean…..

JUSTICE!?

Oh, noes!

Socratease on June 17, 2012 at 12:48 PM

How can a non-US citizen be convicted of treason against the US and spend life in Leavenworth?

rbj on June 17, 2012 at 12:44 PM

They cannot, but they can be tried and convicted on charges of espionage.

SWalker on June 17, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Media reports said he was subject to torture. Assange and Manning have been targeted by the US government as criminals and concerns are being voiced over what Assange’s extradition to Sweden could lead to

…yep!…Eric Holder and JugEars were water boarding Manning in the Oval Office while Hillary stood by naked and watched!

KOOLAID2 on June 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Under the current regime Assange has nothing to fear. Secret Indictments my ass – he’s a hero figure to Barky’s base. He’s basically an Albino New Black Panther.

CorporatePiggy on June 17, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Or is it Merritlessness?

Bmore on June 17, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Not an issue anymore. Our classified material is open to the public in election years.

a capella on June 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Anyone here feel sorry for him?

Me neither.

listens2glenn on June 17, 2012 at 1:04 PM

The POS should be in an Australian jail facing some of the same charges Manning is facing here.

lowandslow on June 17, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Jazz, PressTV is an Iranian propaganda channel. It hired George Galloway, the Hamas propagandist. It’s not a typcial European media outlet.

That said, I’m sure you could find glowing accounts of Assange’s struggle in AFP or Reuters.

Meryl Yourish on June 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Bmore on June 17, 2012 at 12:33 PM

…so I’m one of the few kids here?…you’re not going to be childish…and go for it anymore?

KOOLAID2 on June 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Poor Julian. All he really wanted to do was bed some liberal chicks.

GarandFan on June 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

He’ll probably be teaching puppet theater in a minimum-security Scandinavian prison to Anders Breivik in the near future.

profitsbeard on June 17, 2012 at 1:30 PM

…yep!…Eric Holder and JugEars were water boarding Manning in the Oval Office while Hillary stood by naked and watched!

KOOLAID2 on June 17, 2012 at 12:52 PM

EWWWWWW! Time to bring out the Brain Bleach.

WhatNot on June 17, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I just want to know when all the 9/11 truthers will realize that if the government was responsible for 9/11 then it would have been leaked among the other millions and millions of things that have been leaked. Fast & Furious was an attack on America and that was exposed.

I hope its ok to bring that up… and in case anyone just quickly read my comment, no I am not a truther those people just need to be reached and vote against Obama by november! I know, not gonna happen…

blockchords on June 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM

As far as “secret indictments” go, I’m still not entirely sure what Assange could be charged with in the United States even if we got hold of him.

Isn’t that what That One’s drone kill-list is for?

Mr. Prodigy on June 17, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I think Julian (and Bradley) would have been excellent candidates for a little CIA wet work.

mbecker908 on June 17, 2012 at 2:11 PM

In an interview with Russia’s English news channel Russia Today, author and activist David Swanson said the US government “has issued a secret closed indictment and pressured other governments in Britain and in Sweden to ship Julian Assange to the US”.

And no mention of the fact that Assange works for Russia Today.

JOURNALISM!

Pablo on June 17, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Anyone here feel sorry for him?

Me neither.

listens2glenn on June 17, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Nope. Don’t feel sorry for him at all.

SparkPlug on June 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM

How can a non-US citizen be convicted of treason against the US and spend life in Leavenworth?

rbj on June 17, 2012 at 12:44 PM

I hear that well-armed drones work pretty well…

When a foreigner attacks the US, he ought to expect retaliation.

landlines on June 17, 2012 at 6:27 PM

I also don’t recall the President demonstrating much interest in getting his hands on the man either.

So what! The permanent Bilderberg Shadow Government run by henchmen hired by Dick Cheney will keep him in Bilderberg Prison hidden hundreds of feet beneath the Pentagon…forever.

eeyore on June 17, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Has he been deported? Then he’s doing pretty good. Remember that dope who hacked into various US computer systems post 2001? Well, 10 years and we are still trying to deport him from the UK.

Blake on June 17, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Well, if he wasn’t in the USA when he did whatever he did, and he isn’t a citizen of the USA, he cannot be subject to any USA law and cannot therefore have broken any USA law. If he managed to blab his way into a computer in the USA then the problem is with the security of the computer in the USA. The UK government should never have even considered transferring him to US custody for trial — it is a huge travesty of justice.

Once nations start claiming jurisdiction over the citizens of other nations for actions performed in the territory of other nations, liberty for little people starts looking precarious; something to be granted or denied on the whim of mere bureaucrats.

The USA isn’t the only country to be going down this road. I believe that one or two European states have decided that they have jurisdiction over ‘war crimes’ no matter where in the world they were committed, and without regard for the nationality of the accused.

It doesn’t seem like a trend freedom loving people should want to encourage, especially not when ‘liberals’ (i.e. some of the least tolerant, most bigoted people on earth) are the ones making the laws.

YiZhangZhe on June 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Obama is not interested in who is leaking classified information that is doing serious harm to our national security, he is not interested in extraditing the Julian, he’s not interested in enforcing our immigration laws, he’s not interested in purging state rolls of illegal aliens and other who are not eleigible to vote, he is not interested in creating jobs, he is not interested in “all of the above” as an energy policy, he is not interested in prosecuting voter intimdation by minorities, he is not interested in deficit reduction, he is not interested in paying down the debt, he is not interested in entitlement reformes, he is not interested in reforming the tax codes, he is not interested in cutting the cost of health care (Obamacare is on track to bankrupt the economy by itself), he is not interested in Congress, he not interested in the military, he is not interesed … well in much of anything except getting reelected.

Personally, I’m interested in getting someone in the White House who is interested in solving the hard problems facing this country.

And Obama isn’t him.

BMF on June 17, 2012 at 7:52 PM

YiZhangZhe on June 17, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Um… there are no legal charges pending against Assange in the US. I’m not entirely certain what you’re driving at here with your stirring defense of international justice, since its not actually relevant to the case.

You’d be better served making the case that charging Assange in a court of law, and demanding extradition for being a cad is an assault on common sense and decency… since that’s actually what is happening here. Also: The US is not involved in any way here.

SpikeRHSC on June 18, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Is a charge of rape in Sweden really considered “as bad” as being charged with treason and espionage in time of war, in a war zone?

Julian could also be charged with espionage in the US, I suspect.

mojo on June 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Assange has aged.

I wonder why….

All Doctor of Death-looking:

What was that guy’s name?

Sherman1864 on June 18, 2012 at 3:50 AM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian

Sherman1864 on June 18, 2012 at 3:52 AM

I like a good Eurobash as much as the next guy, but Press TV is an arm of the Iranian government.

Red Cloud on June 18, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Um… there are no legal charges pending against Assange in the US. I’m not entirely certain what you’re driving at here with your stirring defense of international justice, since its not actually relevant to the case.

SpikeRHSC on June 18, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I was responding to Blake (see June 17, 2012 at 12:35 PM), who was referring to a different case, where the US is pressing for a man to be extradited from the UK. If you missed Blake’s comment then I expect my comment would seem rather ‘random’, to say the least.

YiZhangZhe on June 18, 2012 at 8:33 AM

YiZhangZhe on June 18, 2012 at 8:33 AM

Fair enough. I scrolled up and read Blake’s comment for context. Extradition law and international treaties are fairly well established precedents, so I still think you are barking up the wrong tree. As I read Blake’s comments, there were US citizens (entities?) who were victimized by a criminal act. Performing such act from another country shouldn’t be entirely risk free, which is why we have all those various treaties.

Similarly, if I were to go to the US/Canada (or, more realistically the US/Mexico) border and begin shooting people across said border, I should still be held accountable for my acts.

Where I had a problem with this international law push was the story about 6 years ago about cracking down on the sex tourism (ie travelling to a country with a lower age of consent law and/or legal prostituition to engage in sex acts that are criminal in ones home country) by making it illegal to engage in legal activities if they are illegal in your native country. Not because I care to protect sex tourists, but because of the precedent it sets. From there it is a short stop to, say, women in the US leveling charges against men in the US, in Swedish courts, for a bad one night stand (a la Assange). Of course, I have no idea how that worked out…

SpikeRHSC on June 18, 2012 at 12:04 PM