WaPo wonders: What will hundreds of thousands of job permits do to the economy?

posted at 11:01 am on June 16, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

I asked the same question in an update to Erika’s post on Barack Obama’s unilateral move to accommodate young illegal immigrants by refusing to deport them and issue them temporary work permits instead.  With potentially as many as 800,000 new workers flooding into the system, what happens to the millions of Americans who can’t find work now?  The Washington Post wonders the same thing, and more:

President Obama has just opened a floodgate of opportunity for young illegal immigrants in the United States, but could it squeeze the aspirations of legal Americans in the process? …

Under the new policy, as many as 1.4 million undocumented immigrants under age 30 will be able to apply for the amnesty, allowing them to work and attend college legally. To be eligible, they must have been in the United States for five years, have no criminal record, and attend high school or college or be a military veteran.

The policy does not provide permanent legal residency, but it protects those who qualify from being deported and gives them a chance to renew their new status every two years. It also does not grant any public benefits, such as Medicare and Medicaid. Federal law already grants all undocumented immigrants the right to a public-school education and emergency hospital care.

The new policy could entail additional costs for administration and enforcement, however, and put pressure on state systems of higher education to meet growing demand for slots.

A move like this might have made sense in 2005-6, when the civilian participation rate in the workforce was near its all-time high (around 66.2% at that time), with unemployment in the 5% range, and labor so tight that hourly wages on entry level positions were constantly rising. American businesses would have welcomed a larger pool of legal workers and the competition wouldn’t have put others out of work or forced them to work for significantly less money.  People would have opposed it for other reasons, but economically speaking, it wouldn’t have had a tremendously negative impact, at least not in the short term.

But now?  We’re not creating enough jobs to keep up with population growth as it is.  With this new policy in place, Obama will introduce hundreds of thousands of suddenly-eligible workers into an economy with an 8.2% nominal unemployment rate, a 14.8% U-6 un/underemployed rate, with a civilian participation rate that has plummeted from 65.7% at the start of the Obama recovery in June 2009 (the same as it was when he took office, too) to 63.8%, lower than it was when Reagan faced his first midterm election.  Those who are already struggling to find jobs are not only going to face more competition for those slots, the glut of labor will depress entry-level wages even further.

Don’t make the mistake of dismissing the short-term benefits of this move for Barack Obama.  When a chief executive “takes the bull by the horns” and acts in a strong manner, he will usually get rewarded with a bump upward in approval and support.  Americans like to see leaders lead, which is the reason incumbent Presidents have such an advantage in re-election efforts.  It’s also no secret that the Latino community had grown angry with the increased rate of deportations in the Obama administration, and this will heal a breach that Obama can’t afford in November.  But this has a large potential for backfire — and if jobs reports this summer continue the downward trend we’ve been seeing this year, those 23 million Americans who already feel locked out of the economy will be asking the same question the Post does this morning.


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We need to fire the disappointment in chief and fill that position!

TheAudacityofNOPE on June 16, 2012 at 11:05 AM

1.4 million new obama voters, just in time for the November election.

Pork-Chop on June 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM

How about wondering what impeachment of the Traitor-in-Chief would do for the economy, Ed?

Or does pooping all over the Constitution not mean anything to you any longer?

MrScribbler on June 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Looking at the comments around the web it looks like his little pander is not going to work.

docflash on June 16, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Have you ever seen a President less concerned about our country and so much more concerned about other countries?

Surly strange. You could conclude someone hates America …

Anybody know whether this includes free health care?

tarpon on June 16, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Did he say temporary work permits? He meant temporary voting privileges.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:09 AM

tarpon on June 16, 2012 at 11:08 AM

You give him more credit than I do, I think he cares only about himself.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Assuming all 800K “suddenly-less-than-illegal” workers take jobs that would, under current conditions, would have been filled by Americans, it would be about a 0.6% rise in the unemployment rate.

Steve Eggleston on June 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM

I hit the drive-thru at McDonald’s yesterday and they had a big sign on the window that said “HIRING FOR ALL SHIFTS”. Rather than raise the hourly wage to attract more applicants they will benefit from a new pool of cheap labor.

Wigglesworth on June 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Job permits for non English speaking foreigners with no skills except cutting grass, washing dishes, or cleaning homes & hotels.

This will do nothing but increase the unemployment numbers.

Robert Jensen on June 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM

MrScribbler on June 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Since Ed can’t instigate impeachment proceedings, I guess we are stuck talking about things that are actually happening.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:11 AM

How dare the racists at the Washington Post question obviously political and possibly illegal policy changes in an election year. /

In all seriousness though. If Obama can’t be bothered to take questions, then reporters should interrupt him and get their questions out there. If he doesn’t answer, then that’s on him. Obama doesn’t care what his policies will do to the American economy. So long as it happens after November, it’s all good.

joekenha on June 16, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Interestingly, the dynamics of the job market considered, the employable population would increase, and without added jobs, the unemployment rate would increase (initially). The new work permits would lilely discourage the long term unemployed , thereby driving down the unemployment rate as they’d be excluded from the denominator.

Smarter folks that me have likely forecasted these reactions, but considering JugEars made the announcement, it’s probably a Sept-Oct decrease to the unemployment rate. Thereby helping his re-election push.

socalcon on June 16, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Obama loves America.

tom daschle concerned on June 16, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I’m not worried about the permits. The White House commie will dictate a solution.

bgibbs1000 on June 16, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Well,its only 800,000,whose counting anyway,
and what……it could morph into 1.4 Million!!!?
————————————————

Pew Report:
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1.4 Million Immigrants Could be Affected by New Policy
Updated: June 15, 2012 | 4:00 p.m.
June 15, 2012 | 3:47 p.m
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The changes in deportation policies for young undocumented immigrants announced by President Obama on Friday could affect up to 1.4 million children and young adults in the U.S., according to a report by the Pew Hispanic Center.

That’s a stark difference from the 800,000 that the Department of Homeland Security estimated would be affected by the policy changes.

According to Pew’s calculations, the 1.4 million figure comes from the combination of the 700,000 undocumented adults between the ages of 18 and 30 who arrived in the U.S. as children, but also the 700,000 additional schoolchildren under the age of 18.

Together, that makes up about 12 percent of the 11.2 million undocumented immigrants estimated to be in the U.S., Pew reports.

Last year, Pew conducted a survey that found immigrants, 59 percent to 27 percent, opposed Obama’s deportation policies. Average annual deportations by the Obama administration were nearly a third higher than in George W. Bush’s second term as president. Nearly 400,000 immigrants have been deported every year during the first two years of Obama’s presidency.

About 12.9 percent, or 39.9 million people, in the U.S. are foreign-born, according to the 2010 American Community Survey. Of the foreign-born population, 43.7 percent are naturalized U.S. citizens.(More….)
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/thenextamerica/immigration/pew-report-1-4-million-immigrants-could-be-affected-by-new-policy-20120615

canopfor on June 16, 2012 at 6:12 AM

canopfor on June 16, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Gee, I wonder what could possibly happen when we allow thousands upon thousands of uneducated peasants who don’t give a darn about American culture, while our job rate at home stinks as it is.

Link immigration to our unemployment numbers already.

MelonCollie on June 16, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Meanwhile corruptcrat Eric Holder tries to stamp out voter ID laws everywhere so these new “workers” can vote for their new benefactor.

Robert Jensen on June 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Hey they can all get those new IRS jobs to enforce Kardashiancare!

On second thought let’s just impeach big sis for failure to uphold the duties of her office.

tim c on June 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM

How about 1.4 million legal citizens of the United States get a job this month, Barry? Or is it too much to ask that you work for the taxpayers good? Dumbazz !

stormridercx4 on June 16, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Don’t make the mistake of dismissing the short-term benefits of this move for Barack Obama. When a chief executive “takes the bull by the horns” and acts in a strong manner, he will usually get rewarded with a bump upward in approval and support. Americans like to see leaders lead…

In Barry’s case, he has taken the bull**** by the horns. How can anyone not see that? The petulance is so thick that even the MSDNC cranks are mentioning it.

As to Americans liking to see their leaders lead, remember that George Custer was a leader, too.

Barry the Eunuch is leading us rearward.

turfmann on June 16, 2012 at 11:15 AM

I hit the drive-thru at McDonald’s yesterday and they had a big sign on the window that said “HIRING FOR ALL SHIFTS”. Rather than raise the hourly wage to attract more applicants they will benefit from a new pool of cheap labor.

Wigglesworth on June 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Yep. Look for them and Squall-Mart and all the other cheapskate employers to benefit. If it weren’t for min-wage and labor laws, we’d be right back to the late 1800′s in some places right now. Workers want decent pay and/or working conditions? Boot ‘em out and get another batch of hungry, desperate peasants.

MelonCollie on June 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

1.4 million new obama voters, just in time for the November election.

Pork-Chop on June 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Yep.

BallisticBob on June 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Is even WaPo waking up?

Nah. They are only asking an obvious question so they do not appear biased. Won’t look good if only “right wingers” ask an obvious question that even independent voters would ask.

Comrade Chairman Obama and his campaign politburo will have to come up with a suitable answer, even it is all BS.

farsighted on June 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Since Ed can’t instigate impeachment proceedings, I guess we are stuck talking about things that are actually happening.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Gee, Cindy, I forgot that Ed can only publish a principled stand on something when he can link it to someone else.

MrScribbler on June 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I agree he’s going to get a bump.

But, it’s an argument he can’t win.

If Barry’s answer is “it was the right thing to do”, he leaves himself open for “How is any of this right for the 20% getting crushed by your previous decisions? The 25% of unemployed black Americans? 30% college grads”?

budfox on June 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

There are 2 points about this I haven’t heard mentioned first, this is a temporary thing that’s very reversible and secondly, Marco Rubio has been piecing together a coalition to get a Dream Act through Congress, which would be permanent. The Democrats do not want a Republican to come up with a solution because they need the issue for November.

I’m hoping that Rubio can point this out and make this thing look more like the purely partisan political event it is.

bflat879 on June 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM

If this was just the right thing to do and its not pandering why didn’t Obama do this very easy dictatorial trampling of our Constitution right away when he took office?

I notice the President’s minions in the press all quickly fell in line to pronounce this as totally non political.

Must be nice to have a nearly completely corrupted press on your side.

Speakup on June 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM

That unemployment rate is far higher for folks in the 16-29 range at which this is targeted. About 45% have no job, and, although many of those go to school, it’s still reflective of a dire situation for the under-30 crowd. (Some go to school BECAUSE they can’t find a job, others might prefer a job to student loans, and many don’t go to school at all.) I also wonder if any of the self-deported will hop back across the border if their first border crossing was as a minor and they’re thus eligible. I’m all for a loosening of immigration laws, but this was clearly designed by a campaign, not by deliberative process.

calbear on June 16, 2012 at 11:18 AM

You give him more credit than I do, I think he cares only about himself.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:09 AM

I think he cares about his agenda. I think he is grasping that he’s on his way out and wants to inflict the maximun amount of damage possible.

Eren on June 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

WaPo wonders: What will hundreds of thousands of job permits do to the economy?

Didn’t POTUS recently say the economy was ‘fine’? What’s it to you, WaPo? Up to a little Yellow Journalism? Huh? huh ?

socalcon on June 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Assuming all 800K “suddenly-less-than-illegal” workers take jobs that would, under current conditions, would have been filled by Americans, it would be about a 0.6% rise in the unemployment rate.

Steve Eggleston on June 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Bingo. Obama just added 1.4MM to the rolls of the unemployed.

BobMbx on June 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

…last night they were interviewing a young man who was relieved he would not have to ‘hide’ anymore…he had been driving to school without a drivers license…Laws?…what laws?…laws are for citizens!

KOOLAID2 on June 16, 2012 at 11:20 AM

What impact will this new “policy” have on employers? Can they be sued for failing to hire illegals now? So he gets a two-fer. One for the illegals and one for the plaintiff’s lobby.

Welcome to Lil Barry’s Bizzarro World.

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Question, if I may: Can these now vote? It doesn’t seem right, to me.

OldEnglish on June 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

This is such a “duh”. Not only is he screwing American workers out of jobs, it’s going to bring the teen and African American unemployment to an all time high. It’s (gasp) almost as if Obama WANTS more young people and African American’s on the Gov’t dole- they can vote whereas I don’t believe the illegals with work permits will be allowed to- or was it a package deal for the illegals?

BettyRuth on June 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Meanwhile,……..maybe all for not!!

Obama letting some immigrant ‘dreamers’ stay in U.S.
Jun. 15, 2012 11:08 PM
**********************

Bruce Merrill, a veteran political scientist and pollster,

doubted the move will turn out to be a game-changer for Obama,

although he noted that his surveys have indicated strong support for the Dream Act in Arizona.

“It really may be that he’s doing things that he thinks are the right things to do — you kind of hope that’s the case,” said Merrill, now a senior research fellow at Arizona State University’s Morrison Institute for Public Policy.

“I just don’t think it’s going to bring a lot of new Hispanic votes, frankly, to him.”(more…)
=================================

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/06/15/20120615obama-letting-immigrant-dreamers-stay-us.html

canopfor on June 16, 2012 at 11:22 AM

I watched Bill O’Reily last night. He called this a smart political move. Just Oy.

Oil Can on June 16, 2012 at 11:23 AM

*looks around, breathes a sigh of relief a certain somebody hasn’t started a filibuster of this thread yet*

President Obama has just opened a floodgate of opportunity for young illegal immigrants in the United States…

Sheriff Joe thinks that’s not the only “floodgate of opportunity” the boy king has just opened.

“I think people from Mexico are now going to feel, ‘Hey come on in and we’ll get by with it.’ But it won’t happen in this county. They will still be arrested,” Arpaio said. Source

Flora Duh on June 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Question, if I may: Can these now vote? It doesn’t seem right, to me.

OldEnglish on June 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Technically, no. In practice, since Holder’s doing all he can to ensure no safeguards are in place, yes.

Eren on June 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Guaranteed: The first work permit will not be issued until November 7th.

Borgcube on June 16, 2012 at 11:25 AM

How many in the hispanic community will suffer because of this?

rob verdi on June 16, 2012 at 11:25 AM

I think he cares about his agenda. I think he is grasping that he’s on his way out and wants to inflict the maximun amount of damage possible.

Eren on June 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

‘Scorched Earth’ versus the Clinton prank of stealing the ‘w’s from keyboards as exiting the WH. Interesting strategy.

socalcon on June 16, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Setting aside the rank unconstitutional nature of what Obama is doing, I thought he sold this as a policy for illegals who were brought here as kids “through no fault of their own” — what I’m reading here would allow someone who came here as an adult at 20 or even 25 to become “legal.”

toby11 on June 16, 2012 at 11:27 AM

People keep missing the fundamental truth about Obama, which truth explains all of his actions: Obama wants to destroy the United States. His latest move will help him accomplish that goal.
Just take the analysis one step further: Yes, this means more Americans without jobs. That, in turn, means more Americans on food stamps and otherwise more dependent on government, with all of the negatives that we traditional Americans understand come with such a result.

GaltBlvnAtty on June 16, 2012 at 11:27 AM

So the WaPo is asking this question before the Romney campaign? Great.

A politically inept 0bama handed the GOP a hammer in the form of giving 800,000 illegal aliens work permits when unemployment among US citizens is 8.2%, and so far Romney’s response is…to say this should have been done through Congress. Are McCain’s people from 2008 suddenly in charge of the Romney operation?

MidniteRambler on June 16, 2012 at 11:27 AM

he will usually get rewarded with a bump upward in approval and support.

Depends on how it is spun…”Bull by the horns/decisive leadership” spin such as here will work for him.
More accurate “Total lawlessness/thwarting the will of the American people will do him harm.”
We know how the LSM will go…we will see how the RINO’s/ squishes will handle…

winston on June 16, 2012 at 11:27 AM

How many in the hispanic community will suffer because of this?

rob verdi on June 16, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Why are we all assuming that the illegals are all Latino? The same blanket amnesty will be afforded to all sorts of folks…. like middle eastern males under 30.

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM

If these new ‘work permits’ are an extra-legal document that is the result of an extra-legal process invented by a rogue president, do the states have to honor them? What if some of the states pass laws that force employers to refuse to honor them?

slickwillie2001 on June 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I would think the long list of other nationalities waiting to get permits legally here in the US would be a bit chapped for this group to be put ahead of the line for job permits? And those other nationalities are PAYING for all the paper work themselves(IIRC) but will the taxpayers pay for the paper work for this bunch?

Just think of all the ‘goodies’ this bunch will be entitiled to getting this eo from bho?

I don’t care what people say, this is ALL about votes for bho at the expense of legal American taxpayers!
L

letget on June 16, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Good…… that means unemployment should be about 9.5% by September, way to go moron…….
Lets see you use some more brain power to put Rmoney™ in the whitehouse……….

angrymike on June 16, 2012 at 11:30 AM

If these new ‘work permits’ are an extra-legal document that is the result of an extra-legal process invented by a rogue president, do the states have to honor them? What if some of the states pass laws that force employers to refuse to honor them?

slickwillie2001 on June 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Eric. Holder.

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Assuming all 800K “suddenly-less-than-illegal” workers take jobs that would, under current conditions, would have been filled by Americans, it would be about a 0.6% rise in the unemployment rate.

Steve Eggleston on June 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Wouldn’t it be enough if the 800K are counted in the labor rolls, whether or not they get the jobs? Probably BLS will figure out a way to keep them off the rolls to make the unemployment number look good.

toby11 on June 16, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Eren on June 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Thanks!

Sloppy. Very sloppy.

OldEnglish on June 16, 2012 at 11:31 AM

More good news for American unemployed:

Infosys seems to be importing labor under the guise of B1 visas instead of the proper H-1B visas.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228134/Infosys_employees_had_concerns_about_visa_use_documents_show

marinetbryant on June 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Why are we all assuming that the illegals are all Latino? The same blanket amnesty will be afforded to all sorts of folks…. like middle eastern males under 30.

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Doesn’t matter where they come from, they’re still going to be in competition for low wage, usually part time employment. Obama will probably feel compelled to increase the minimum wage as well. How can these poor unfortunates be expected to live on 7.25 an hour?

BettyRuth on June 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Key west reader
I’m thinking you mean Muslims??????? THAT makes even more sense………

angrymike on June 16, 2012 at 11:33 AM

You give him more credit than I do, I think he cares only about himself.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:09 AM

The boy king and his media are realizing they can’t keep Fast and Furious under-wraps much longer.

I think this was a preemptive strike by his administration to soften the blowback that’s going to come from the Mexican community when they finally learn the facts about Fast and Furious.

Flora Duh on June 16, 2012 at 11:33 AM

So,um,the Left are only going after Latino`s,
and no one else,seems awfully racist sumpin
sumpin to me!!

canopfor on June 16, 2012 at 11:34 AM

“I thank God for this day. It has changed my whole life,” Jorge Acuna, 19, a college student in Silver Spring who came to the United States with his family as a child, told a cheering crowd outside the White House on Friday afternoon, minutes after Obama announced the new policy. Last spring, the community college student was nearly deported to his native Colombia. Now, under the amnesty, he will be able to pursue his degree in engineering.

Yes, thank goodness for Obama’s willingness to ignore his oath of office, defy the laws he swore to uphold, and impose his own personal preferences in place of the laws. Otherwise, this poor young Colombian man might never be able to complete his engineering degree — because there are no colleges or universities in his native Colombia.

Oh, wait . . . .

AZCoyote on June 16, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Americans like to see leaders lead

This isn’t leading! This is an extra-constitutional power grab. Obama doesn’t like to lead. He likes to dictate by fiat. He will say “this is the right thing to do”, or say “to do otherwise is not the kind of country we are” (whatever the f THAT means), or quote some Biblical verse completely out of context like “we are our brother’s keeper”. Dictating to people is a lot easier than working with them.

Paul-Cincy on June 16, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Under the new policy, as many as 1.4 million undocumented immigrants under age 30 will be able to apply for the amnesty, allowing them to work and attend college legally. To be eligible, they must have been in the United States for five years, have no criminal record, and attend high school or college or be a military veteran.

Does anyone believe this ‘five-year’ garbage? This is a trinket thrown in to answer fears that this will mean a huge new influx of illegals. We don’t have the bureaucratic manpower to verify it, and the ‘evidence’ accepted will be far too easy to fake, if evidence is required at all.

What this will come down to is a checky-box on an application that anyone can check with as little thought and as few negative consequences as they do the ‘citizen’ box on the motor voter driver’s license application. The joke’s on us.

I hope fifty thousand new Mexican illegals show up Monday at the Los Angeles county welfare office demanding food stamps. Let Brownie deal with that.

slickwillie2001 on June 16, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Obama finds the rule of law uncomfortable, and inconvenient.

Paul-Cincy on June 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM

This isn’t leading! This is an extra-constitutional power grab. Obama doesn’t like to lead. He likes to dictate by fiat. He will say “this is the right thing to do”, or say “to do otherwise is not the kind of country we are” (whatever the f THAT means), or quote some Biblical verse completely out of context like “we are our brother’s keeper”. Dictating to people is a lot easier than working with them.

Paul-Cincy on June 16, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Yes, and the irony, -he admits that he is doing this because Congress refused to act.

slickwillie2001 on June 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Barry the Law Breaker

faraway on June 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM

The boy king and his media are realizing they can’t keep Fast and Furious under-wraps much longer.

I think this was a preemptive strike by his administration to soften the blowback that’s going to come from the Mexican community when they finally learn the facts about Fast and Furious.

Flora Duh on June 16, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Good point.

How do you think our Cubans are going to react to the Mexican Amnesty Act of 2012?

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I shall be very interested in next week’s poll numbers. A big uptick, and it’s all over.

OldEnglish on June 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Raising the minimum wage might be a solution. It has always encouraged more employment in the past./

a capella on June 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM

So all Obama did is make it legal for these “new workers” to file for unemployment.
State budgets will crater even more. Maybe the price for lawn mowing services will go down?

So lets say maybe 50% of these “new workers: is working….
Will the labor dept. add the 500,000 unemployed “new workers” to the numbers,
thus making the official unemployment rate even higher?

redguy on June 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM

What about the parents of ‘these kids’, will they be legal now also with this eo? Afterall can’t have a 27yo ‘kid’ here without mom and dad now can we?
L

letget on June 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Hmmmm. Tracking & verifying the ‘eligibility’ of these illegals is going to require the creation of uh, 100,000 new state and gubmint yobs.

Who benefits?

Public sector unions

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:42 AM

shall be very interested in next week’s poll numbers. A big uptick, and it’s all over.

OldEnglish on June 16, 2012 at 11:39 AM

I don’t think he’ll get a bounce out of this.

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:43 AM

if Obama is smart………

…..he’ll spend the next 4 1/2 months doing this:

Propose
New $3.5 billion “Civilian security and work force” for inner city minorities and unemployed youth.

Propose
New Immigration “Reuniting families with hope for America” program that will essentially give amnesty to all illegals, and order the DOJ to immediately enforce the Voting Rights and Civil Rights acts.

Propose
A free and open border with Mexico to allow the “free flow of resources, ideas and dreams”. With an Executive order he can direct the DHS/Big Sis to stop enforcing any border controls and in fact ASSIST those that want to be with their American families to get across the “dangerous” borders.

Propose
ObamaCare by executive order and implement it on November 1st with a no payments/premiums due until February.

Propose
50% cut in Student loan debt immediately, and offer to exchange the other 50% for “service” in a new “NATIONAL SERVICE CORPS” (with a fashionable Vogue brown shirt).

…….and all Romney can do is mutter and pick Rubio.


beautiful.

PappyD61 on June 16, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Meanwhile….we flashback!

Obama Orders ICE Agents to Break Federal Immigration Laws
Jan 9 2012
***********

Obama Orders ICE Agents to Break Federal Immigration Laws to Help Protect Non-Criminal Illegal Aliens from Deportations, but ICE Union Refuses to Follow:

The union that represents ICE immigration agents flatly told the White House, they cannot and will not implement his amnesty policies regarding illegal immigrants.
(More…)
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http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-orders-ice-agents-to-break-federal-immigration-laws

canopfor on June 16, 2012 at 11:44 AM

MrScribbler on June 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Dearest, I read you comments at Ace, all you want to do it pee in Hot Air’s cornflakes. If that’s what does it for you, knock yourself out, it just needs to be pointed out that you are b!tchin for b!tchin’s sake. Carry on.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:44 AM

I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but it seems that everyone is concerned with the mexicans coming in/staying illegaly. What about all of the mooslimes that will now be “protected”? This scares the krap outta me. This traitor needs to be perp walked straight outta our House and soon.

sicoit on June 16, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Gee, I wonder what could possibly happen when we allow thousands upon thousands of uneducated peasants who don’t give a darn about American culture, while our job rate at home stinks as it is.

Job permits for non English speaking foreigners with no skills except cutting grass, washing dishes, or cleaning homes & hotels.

Are you people for real? Also, I thought this wasn’t about labor competition.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Doesnt the House have oversight over departments that dont enforce the law?

Why doesnt Issa have Janet testify over this?

faraway on June 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Eren on June 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

I don’t know if I can commit to “on his way out” yet. I’m starting to think that this is going to be a bigger test for the media than Obama. I don’t know if they are as worried as he is yet, and time will tell if their illusions of grandeur are justified.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Let’s not forget the returning service personnel now that Obama has created a phony “peace dividend.”

onlineanalyst on June 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Are you people for real? Also, I thought this wasn’t about labor competition.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM

You thought? You overestimate yourself.

kingsjester on June 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but it seems that everyone is concerned with the mexicans coming in/staying illegaly. What about all of the mooslimes that will now be “protected”? This scares the krap outta me. This traitor needs to be perp walked straight outta our House and soon.

sicoit on June 16, 2012 at 11:46 AM

You are doing *tons* to make conservatives not look like total and complete crackpots (or should I say krackpots?), keep up the good work.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

If it was right in 2005-6, it’s right now. This is an immigration policy, not a labor policy. This is about preventing the deportation of the innocent American underclass: young children brought into the country without proper documentation.

ernesto on June 16, 2012 at 11:50 AM

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

So…you allow burglars to move into your home?

kingsjester on June 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Don’t make the mistake of dismissing the short-term benefits of this move for Barack Obama. When a chief executive “takes the bull by the horns” and acts in a strong manner, he will usually get rewarded with a bump upward in approval and support.

He got a bump after his flip flop on gay marriage, but I imagine the gay community has figured out by now that nothing has or will change. I believe between now and November the Latino community will figure out that a work permit is useless if there are no jobs. This was just another attempt at Saul Alinsky’s divide and conquer strategy. Each state needs to pass legislation regarding this issue as soon as possible.

Will this affect the unemployment rate?

lea on June 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Eren on June 16, 2012 at 11:19 AM

*waves hello*

Hi Eren, good to see you posting.

How do you think our Cubans are going to react to the Mexican Amnesty Act of 2012?

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I know 2 Cubans, my son-in-law and his brother, who are pizzed off, considering the years of government red-tape they’ve had to go through to gain legal status.

Flora Duh on June 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

innocent American guilty foreign underclass: young children brought into the country without proper documentation.

ernesto on June 16, 2012 at 11:50 AM

faraway on June 16, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Fingers crossed!

OldEnglish on June 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Home Depot will have to expand their parking lots.

slickwillie2001 on June 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Why are we all assuming that the illegals are all Latino?

Because the right has *always* used “illegals” as a means of spouting anti-Latino bigotry and when called on it said “I’m not talking about Mexicans, I’m talking about “illegals.” However, the anger that has been unleashed in the wake of Obama’s policy change has unmasked the intellectual dishonesty of that rhetorical elision. It is good, however, to see conservatives come to the realization about some of their fellows.

And the conversations about job competition also reveal the hypocrisy of the right who *loves* labor competition between U.S. citizens and non-citizens in every instance…except if the non-citizens live next door. Its pretty hilarious, also tragic.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM

1.4 million new obama voters, just in time for the November election.

Pork-Chop on June 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Calm down, they won’t get citizenship, not even permanent resident status, so they can’t vote…besides, do you have an idea what kind of resources processing 800,000 applications take, and the time involved….they don’t have the manpower and the infrastructure at USCIS to deal with this….they willl need more money, especially
If their plan is to waive the application fees for this cateoryof ‘immigrants’…the congress can delay them a great deal at least till we have a new president (if we do)…6 months is not probably enough to process even 5,000 applications, let alone 800,000…

jimver on June 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM

On second thought let’s just impeach big sis for failure to uphold the duties of her office.

tim c on June 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM

This is what has been grinding at me over the whole issue. How does an unelected agency head have that much power to override federal law? Is Obama hiding behind another pantsuit?

Janet Incompetano has demonstrated her ineptness as the head of this agency in more ways than we can count. “The system worked!!!” –JNap

onlineanalyst on June 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I don’t think this is not a valid point, but don’t you think that most of these people are working now?

I suppose it might get some people to enroll in school, or stay in school, or even join the military, but do we really think there are hundreds of thousands of 25 year old illegals just lolling about not working?

Jocon307 on June 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I know 2 Cubans, my son-in-law and his brother, who are pizzed off, considering the years of government red-tape they’ve had to go through to gain legal status.

Flora Duh on June 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Cubans are notoriously discriminatory against central/south Americans, not to mention Haitians. So that isn’t particularly surprising.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Key West Reader on June 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Great minds and all that KWR. I didn’t read all of the posts before I posted mine. :)

sicoit on June 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I know 2 Cubans, my son-in-law and his brother, who are pizzed off, considering the years of government red-tape they’ve had to go through to gain legal status.

Flora Duh on June 16, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I have some Hispanic friends that I know are not happy.

kingsjester on June 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

You are doing *tons* to make conservatives not look like total and complete crackpots (or should I say krackpots?), keep up the good work.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM

libfreeordie:

Why is Obama soooooooooo concerned with only Latinos,and
no one else,or could it be,Obama needs the Latino Vote to
win!

And siciot has an excellent point!1

canopfor on June 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I don’t think this is not a valid point, but don’t you think that most of these people are working now?

I suppose it might get some people to enroll in school, or stay in school, or even join the military, but do we really think there are hundreds of thousands of 25 year old illegals just lolling about not working?

Jocon307 on June 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Stop, just stop it! This is a no-facts zone for a lot of these people.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Cubans are notoriously discriminatory against central/south Americans, not to mention Haitians. So that isn’t particularly surprising.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Wow. A real racist in our midst. Take a look folks, this is what it looks like.

faraway on June 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM

It’s also no secret that the Latino community had grown angry with the increased rate of deportations in the Obama administration, and this will heal a breach that Obama can’t afford in November. But this has a large potential for backfire —

maybe the folks involved in this will get the sense that they are being jerked around. First, deported as a means to gin up anger for a few years…now, amnesty. This is after 200+Mexicans are murdered by guns sold to drug cartels by the US Government. Is this how you want to be treated, amigos? Will you support this guy for this? If so, you’ll have to reconcile the fact that 200 of your fellow Mexicans were shot dead as a result of this administrations policy… in Mexico, mind you. What happens if you start straying away from el rancho. Tu’ comprende?

ted c on June 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM

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