Breaking: Obama administration to loosen deportation rules

posted at 10:44 am on June 15, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

So, the “framing” economic speech yesterday was a bust — yeah, they’re going to need us to move away from that ol’ chestnut pretty quickly — so here comes the next big talking point in the Obama-campaign wheelhouse.

President Obama has decided that the Homeland Security Department will no longer deport younger illegal immigrants who haven’t broken the law, and will instead issue them work permits.

 The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of an influential Latino electorate that has been vocal in its opposition to administration deportation policies.

The policy change, described to The Associated Press by two senior administration officials, will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants who have lived in fear of deportation. It also bypasses Congress and partially achieves the goals of the so-called DREAM Act, a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was to announce the new policy Friday, one week before President Barack Obama plans to address the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials’ annual conference in Orlando, Fla. Republican presidential challenger Mitt Romney is scheduled to speak to the group on Thursday.

Updates to follow…

Update: At least as far as the Latino community is concerned (and opinion abounds on the electoral significance of Latinos as a voting group, and whether they really vote so monolithically), this is going to present a stiff challenge for Romney’s campaign. As ABC points out:

The Obama administration is likely to deny that politics played a role in the announcement, but the timing is ideal for the president’s reelection campaign. In the GOP primary, Mitt Romney adopted strictly conservative positions against illegal immigration in his effort to woo right-wing voters. He backs a strong fence along the border with Mexico, opposes most amnesty and boasts of his move as Massachusetts governor to deny in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. …

Obama’s announcement today is likely to curry favor with Hispanics, a key growing voting bloc who could determine the winner in November in important states like Florida, Colorado and Nevada. The president currently beats Romney among Hispanics in polls, but most Latinos say they disapprove of his deportation policy.

Deportation rates under President Obama have actually been relatively high — a point about which many Latino voters and immigration advocates have been displeased. This could be a crucial appeasement-move that will inspire Latinos to get to polls in November.

Can President Obama even do this without Congressional approval? I’m not sure, but then again, it hardly matters. If he can, great; if he can’t, great: It’s just another jab he can aim at an “obstructionist,” “do-nothing” Congress.

Update (Ed): So …. he’s going to hand out hundreds of thousands of work permits when unemployment is at 8.2% nominal, 14.8% U-6, and the civilian participation rate is near the 30-year low Obama set last month (now 63.8%)?  The only thing this accomplishes is driving the labor rate further downward and the unemployment rate further upward.  Work permits make sense when you’re creating jobs, but not when jobs are scarce.  I’m not sure that’s going to endear Obama to unions and blue-collar voters struggling to find work already.

Update (back to Erika): A calculated move to steal some of Sen. Marco Rubio’s alternative-DREAM-Act thunder? It’s widely known that Sen. Rubio has been crafting legislation that would give visas to undocumented immigrants who were brought here as children if they attend college or join the military, though it would not provide legal permanent residency — and President Obama’s plan sounds pretty darn similar. Plenty of Republicans aren’t exactly thanking Rubio for his upcoming proposal, but as a tea-party rockstar with Hispanic roots, Rubio is a major threat to Democrats’ claim that they’re the best political party for Latinos’ interests. Team Obama definitely needed to get out in front on this one.

Update: Here are some immediate reactions from our Congresspeople concerning the Obama campaign’s — er, sorry, I mean, the White House’s — newest immigration policy.

Rep. Allen West, R-Florida

“This is yet another example of executive branch overreach. We have a legislative process that ensures representative governance by the consent of the American people. This action should be crafted into legislation, debated in committee and brought before the House and Senate for vote, with accordance of our Constitutional Republic way. Secretary Napolitano is an unelected administrative bureaucrat who does not have the right to make governing decisions for this country. It is apparent that the goal of the Obama administration is not to govern, but rule by edict. This again is a reflection of the desperation of President Obama and his liberal progressive disciples as November draws nearer. …

Sen. Robert Menendez, D-New Jersey

“For all the young people who call this country their home but have been unable to fulfill their dreams, I am profoundly grateful to the President and the Administration for suspending the deportation of Dreamers. For these young men and women who want to become doctors, teachers, police officers and soldiers, this announcement will change their lives forever.”

Update: Let Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano be clear: This is not to be confused with amnesty.

“A grant of deferred action is not immunity, it is not amnesty,” Napolitano told reporters. “It is an exercise of discretion.”

Update: Sen. Rubio responded by saying that the content of Obama’s proposal is “welcome news,” but was quick to decry the manner of it:

“Today’s announcement will be welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer, but it is a short term answer to a long term problem,” the Cuban American Rubio said in a statement. “And by once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long term one.”


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What?

Socialist protectionists everywhere.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You’re an idiot. We have something called national sovereignty and the Rule of Law. Illegals are not allowed to be present in America, let alone work here.

Get a clue or STFU, you deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM

There are two requirements that have to be met.

The first requirement is that the person must have been brought to the United States before they turned 16. That’s one requirement all on it’s own. If they don’t meet that requirement, then they won’t benefit from this rule.

The second requirement is that they must currently be younger than 30. So, anyone 30 or over who was brought into the country younger than 16, would NOT be covered by this rule. It’s an attempt to not conflict with the 1986 amnesty. If they didn’t take advantage of the amnesty back then, they’re not going to get a second chance this time around.

They are not saying anyone under 30 gets amnesty.

If they don’t meet the first requirement, then the rule doesn’t apply. If they were brought over at the age of 17 then no go. They will still be subject to deportation.

ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM

With the main problem being “…the person must have been brought to the United States…”
….they forgot the word illegally.

BTW….Is there a department or official group of people that keep track of these things?…..I think not.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Should young illegal immigrants be spared deportation?

Yes, I support the new policy.

25%

No, this worsens a big problem.

75%

Yahoo poll. BRILLIANT MOVE MR PRESIDENT!

El_Terrible on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Time to storm the castle.

fogw on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Sen. Menendez’s statement is Exhibit # 9342 that Demorats don’t give a damn about the Constitution.

By the way, even Obama has said he cannot do what he just did: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2895648/posts

WannabeAnglican on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

A “state economy” or a “state’s economy”? I do not believe in a “state economy” which implies central planning.

Buy Danish on June 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Right to work laws are passed on a state to state level. You do believe that individual state’s have economies don’t you? Wait, wait, don’t answer that, you don’t want confirm that you’re actually as buffoonish as that comment made you seem.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 12:20 PM

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 12:19 PM

So we’re conceding that I’ve won the labor competition argument and we’re moving onto national soverignty issues? Cool.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

We are falling into a trap when our reaction to Obama’s move is to debate policy. Regardless of where one stands on immigration policy, Obama’s actions are an abuse of power and a violation of law and of his oath of office.

topdog on June 15, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Bingo. This illegal and insanely un-Constitutional act of the Indonesian’s calls for nothing short of impeachment. There is nothing else to discuss about this.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Next he’ll issue them voting docs.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

That’s what third-party groups like ACORN do. Register them and have them sign an absentee ballot at the same time. By the time it’s discovered, election is usually over.

Rush is calling this new “program” by Obama: Catch-Release-Vote.

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Think about it…because the Obama campaign has been so woefully inept and impotent, Obama has been forced to play his most powerful “ace up his sleeve” so early in the game that he has disarmed himself for when things really heat up and when it really matters close to election day.

This is yet another act of total desperation / unforced error by Obama and it will blow up in his face because everyone knows that it is nothing more than a cheap political stunt; Obama is abusing his executive powers to the detriment of a system of checks and balances; and at a time of high unemployment for the nation’s youth, Obama is adding a million new workers to compete for fewer jobs.

I don’t think young voters are going to like the idea of having to compete for scarce jobs with people who entered the country illegally.

OxyCon on June 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

You won nothing, you illegal crook.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Fine. What this does positively for the economy, I don’t know. Maybe he knows he’s gonna crash and burn in November so he’s just gonna carry out the liberal agenda to whatever extent he can. If his popularity tanks further I hope it carries over to congressional elections as well. Do what you can Barry. I believe you can wound the United States, but I still don’t think you can ruin her. I think the country will survive and in doing so will be able to pass on to future generations the knowledge that your administration was the most corrupt the country has ever seen.

DaveDief on June 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Is that your cologne or just desperation?

R Square on June 15, 2012 at 12:42 PM

So we’re conceding that I’ve won the labor competition argument and we’re moving onto national soverignty issues? Cool.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

We’re not conceding anything, you blithering idiot. This is a Constitutional issue. Period. End of story.

The Indonesian Imbecile needs to be impeached for his unbelievable abuse of power and trampling the Constitutional limits of the Office of the Presidency. There is NOTHING else to discuss about this. It’s a Constitutional issue, you demented clump of America-hating cells.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Dictator of the United States?

Destroyer of the United States?

Dismantler of the United States?

DOTUS.

PappyD61 on June 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM

.
DDDOTUS?

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

.
Works for me. : )

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Just for you, leftist tard

Obama on the DREAM Act: “I just have to continue to say this notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively. But the fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there’s been a great disservice done to the cause of getting the DREAM Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things. It’s just not true.”

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary

_______________________________________________________________________

For Immediate Release September 28, 2011

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM

You all do realize that some of us have things to do outside of debating on this blog right?

libfreeordie on June 14, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Yeah, like what…take a new marxism class?? Gender studies, maybe? Do you at least pay for it yourself?? It would be damning if the taxpayer pays for an idiot like you to become an even bigger idiot through indoctrination….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM

So we’re conceding that I’ve won the labor competition argument and we’re moving onto national soverignty issues? Cool.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

The only thing that you have ‘won” is the troll of the week award here at HA.

VegasRick on June 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM

You all do realize that some of us have things to do outside of debating on this blog right?

libfreeordie on June 14, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Gay bar research again?

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Obama’s polling must show his big speech BOMBED terribly….he had to change to conversation…The same thing happened after the North Carolina and West Virgina votes….the news was all about how bad the results were, causing Obama to come out of the closet.

I am sure the labor department will be adding 800,000 illegal aliens to the potential job pool…making unemployment go up.

Does Mr. Obama think that the Justices of The Supreme Court do not see these things….As Justice Kennedy noted in the Obamacare arguments…The mandate fundamentally changes the relationship between citizens and the federal government…..Obama wants to change the relationship of the citizens to the federal government…and the Justices can see this everyday.

DVPTexFla on June 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM

SQUIRREL!

Obama should have used this move AFTER the Supreme Court upholds Arizona law. Now he’s down a good SQUIRREL.

El_Terrible on June 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Over 23 million American citizens are out of work.

Am I to believe that Mr. Obama just handed 800,000 non-citizens jobs intended for those people?

This won’t end well for Mr. Obama.

He fails to see this election is all about the economy and thinks we will be distracted by another attempt to divide us along ethnic lines. It won’t work.

This is not about Hispanic or non-Hispanic. It is about subverting the Constitution for misguided political adventurism.

No citizen or person who believe in the rule of law regardless of race, creed, religion or party should stand for this. Not one.

Marcus Traianus on June 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM

What?

Socialist protectionists everywhere.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

You’re an idiot. We have something called national sovereignty and the Rule of Law. Illegals are not allowed to be present in America, let alone work here.

Get a clue or STFU, you deranged imbecile.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Please refer the law that states that only US Citizens are allowed to be present and work in America.

You called me a “deranged imbecile”, so it should be quick.

I’ll wait.

Thank you.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Bingo. This illegal and insanely un-Constitutional act of the Indonesian’s calls for nothing short of impeachment. There is nothing else to discuss about this.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM

even though I totally agree….as long as Boehner and crew are at the helm it ain’t EVER gonna happen.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM

From the headlines:

Obama on the DREAM Act: “I just have to continue to say this notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively. But the fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there’s been a great disservice done to the cause of getting the DREAM Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things. It’s just not true.”

I was against unilaterally implementing the DREAM Act before I was for it.

IOW, “I know it is illegal for me to make an illegal act legal, but, US citizens, FU.”

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Gay bar research again?

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM

It Skypes keninCT when it’s not here.

VegasRick on June 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I am profoundly grateful to the President and the Administration for suspending the deportation of Dreamers

I can’t believe an adult said this… an adult who expects to be taken seriously, that is.

mankai on June 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Dictator of the United States?

Destroyer of the United States?

Dismantler of the United States?

DOTUS.

PappyD61 on June 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM

May I add one?

Downgrader of the United States.

Saying that, I’d have to opt for Dictator of the United States as the top dog though.

Chip on June 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Please refer the law that states that only US Citizens are allowed to be present and work in America.

You know that he meant people who are legally allowed to work in America. Don’t play even dumber than you obviously are.

You called me a “deranged imbecile”, so it should be quick.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM

You are a deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM

You have to find the silver lining in every cloud. Tear gas sales are up too.

Bishop on June 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Childs play……

I’m waiting for a sale on Daisy Cutters

ToddPA on June 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I was against unilaterally implementing the DREAM Act before I was for it.

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Wow….with all the flip-flopping, Obama is sounding more like Mitt everyday.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Fine. What this does positively for the economy, I don’t know. Maybe he knows he’s gonna crash and burn in November so he’s just gonna carry out the liberal agenda to whatever extent he can. If his popularity tanks further I hope it carries over to congressional elections as well. Do what you can Barry. I believe you can wound the United States, but I still don’t think you can ruin her. I think the country will survive and in doing so will be able to pass on to future generations the knowledge that your administration was the most corrupt the country has ever seen.

DaveDief on June 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM

I never thought about that. I guess that could be, but a person like him who has been shielded from pain, rejection, and criticism all of his life and then to have everything go wrong and people who once shielded him starting to turn on him scares me. A person like that usually goes crazy somehow. I don’t know if he’ll just try to wound the U.S. and leave. His personality is more of a dictator type of personality.

MobileVideoEngineer on June 15, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Hugh Hewitt is going to be insufferable with his I-told-you-so’s today.

ConservativeLA on June 15, 2012 at 12:49 PM

And as usual Bohener is sitting somewhere sulking and crying. Why not CUT THE FUNDS to Homeland Security department in charge of this until a LAWFUL vote on this can be taken in Congress. BY LAW. Stop implementation until Congress votes.

Where is McConnell on this? Rand Paul? Romney? DeMint? RGA?

Anyone in GOP.

We don’t have a king to rule over us, time someone in GOP had the balls to do something about it.

CUT FUNDING. NOW.

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 12:49 PM

A “state economy” or a “state’s economy”? I do not believe in a “state economy” which implies central planning.

Buy Danish on June 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM

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Right to work laws are passed on a state to state level. You do believe that individual state’s have economies don’t you? Wait, wait, don’t answer that, you don’t want confirm that you’re actually as buffoonish as that comment made you seem.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

.
( s i g h )

REPOSTING:

“Rights” are ONLY for citizens EXCLUSIVELY.

Illegal immigrants are disqualified by definition.

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Wow….with all the flip-flopping, Obama is sounding more like Mitt sKerry everyday.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM

FTFY

VegasRick on June 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Gay bar research again?

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM

BTW, was not trying to be crude/outrageous, just repeating what he told us last night.

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM

even though I totally agree….as long as Boehner and crew are at the helm it ain’t EVER gonna happen.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM

I agree. This bunch aren’t up to the task of defending America and our Constitution. There is no fixing the sort of total abuses of power and destruction of Constitutional limits as have been allowed to this Indonesian piece of sh!t. America will not recover from having our Rule of Law run over and trashed. Elections don’t fix that.

The only solution, at this point, is The Constitutional Union of American States. It’s coming, because when something is totaled like our Constitutional Republic, it can’t be repaired. No one can have faith in a government that ignores all law. You have to start over.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Holders of work permits and permanent rezidents are fine, methinks the topic here is illegal immigrantion….Can you refer to the law that states that illegal immigrants are allowed to be present and work in America. And by rhat I don’t mean some random executive order by the idiot who happens to inhabit the WH currently….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Tyranny

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM

I don’t have the energy (or intention) to go over these points again but I thought instead I’d just post this URL to this News Headline thread that many of us were commenting on (same issue as this post).

White House ready to bypass Congress, implement DREAM Act by executive order

I haven’t yet read the earlier comments on this post so if someone else has already provided that ^^ link here in comments (to that other thread), then my apologies.

Apparently, we’re “racists” and the “fringe deranged lunatics” if we oppose DREAM legislation. At least that’s what the Leftists (over there, other post, linked above) claim.

Lourdes on June 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM

You know that he meant people who are legally allowed to work in America. Don’t play even dumber than you obviously are.

You are a deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Nope. He wrote US Citizens. It’s pretty clear. Am I reading it wrong? Nah, US Citizens. Let me quote it again: Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens. Yeps. US Citizens. Let’s get a screencap. Done. That’s what I replied to. US Citizens. And then you said that was the rule of law.

Can you do provide exactly the legal frame for your claims or not? I’ll wait. You can keep calling me an imbecile, but I’ll still wait. I’m curious about this theory of yours.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Sen. Robert Menendez, D-New Jersey

“For all the young people who call this country their home but have been unable to fulfill their dreams, I am profoundly grateful to the President and the Administration for suspending the deportation of Dreamers. For these young men and women who want to become doctors, teachers, police officers and soldiers, this announcement will change their lives forever.”

So, come here illegally and get a free Green Card (as a LEGAL resident I can attest the actual process to get one is expensive, which I doubt Dear Leader would consider “fair” to make anyone pay for, specially the “Dreamers”).

Also, come here illegally, get a free Green Card, and get a free PUBLIC SECTOR JOB? Are you kidding me? Isn’t there a current Dem politician with an iota of common sense or capable of listening to the words coming out of their mouths?

Are they really so out of touch with reality? Because it just is mind blowing. Different parties will disagree but, in a normal world both sides would reach some common ground from time to time (i.e.: you like certain programs, I like some others, but we are broke to pay for any of them so we need to cut spending).

By the way: a Green Card not only takes a while to be processed (more than 5 months for sure) but, more importantly, is that even as a legal resident YOU CANNOT VOTE ON A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION (by law it is illegal). So, is this administration trying to, in a twisted way, “legalize” an illegal vote? Or is it just trying to appeal to the legal latino crowd that, as we are always told, always votes Democrat anyway and that would result in a zero-sum gain?

ptcamn on June 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Sheriff Joe: “They will still be arrested”

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Why do liberals hate law-abiding immigrants?

All Mittsy has to do from now until November is remind fair-minded Americans (i.e., everyone but liberals) over and over again that Juggle Nuts Obama is calling every single one of the millions of immigrants who have or are currently in the process of making the United States their home LEGALLY (with all of the red tape paperwork and time-consuming effort it takes) the following:

“SUCKERS!!!”

I hear liberals cry like whiny-baby pouty-faces all day long about “fairness,” yet this shameless election year pandering by O-Face is so jarringly unfair to LEGAL immigrants that it’s basically a softball right over the plate for conservatives — if they’re bright enough to swing the bat.

Dion on June 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM

So we’re conceding that I’ve won the labor competition argument and we’re moving onto national soverignty issues? Cool.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Poor minds think alike!

crr6 on June 12, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM

And as usual Bohener is sitting somewhere sulking and crying. Why not CUT THE FUNDS to Homeland Security department in charge of this until a LAWFUL vote on this can be taken in Congress. BY LAW. Stop implementation until Congress votes.

Where is McConnell on this? Rand Paul? Romney? DeMint? RGA?

Anyone in GOP.

We don’t have a king to rule over us, time someone in GOP had the balls to do something about it.

CUT FUNDING. NOW.

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Gee, calm down a little…0 just announced his intentions of giving amnesty to a certain category of illegals…what now, was Boehner supposed to dream last night that Barkey would come up ith this novel idea thismkoring? gIve them time, they wiill respond to it one way or another….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM

And as usual Bohener is sitting somewhere sulking and crying. Why not CUT THE FUNDS to Homeland Security department in charge of this until a LAWFUL vote on this can be taken in Congress. BY LAW. Stop implementation until Congress votes.

Where is McConnell on this? Rand Paul? Romney? DeMint? RGA?

Anyone in GOP.

We don’t have a king to rule over us, time someone in GOP had the balls to do something about it.

CUT FUNDING. NOW.

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 12:49 PM

More importantly….where is Rush on this?!?

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:55 PM

This morning, that is….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Can you do provide exactly the legal frame for your claims or not? I’ll wait. You can keep calling me an imbecile, but I’ll still wait. I’m curious about this theory of yours.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM

SO happy that you think you’ve found something. Everyone knows what was meant.

Get a brain – at least half a brain – you deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:55 PM

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Holders of work permits and permanent rezidents are fine, methinks the topic here is illegal immigrantion….Can you refer to the law that states that illegal immigrants are allowed to be present and work in America. And by rhat I don’t mean some random executive order by the idiot who happens to inhabit the WH currently….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Nope, I don’t think illegal immigrants are allowed to stay in America.

I think anyone who knows how to read can understand the posts I replied to:

Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM

You’re an idiot. We have something called national sovereignty and the Rule of Law.
Get a clue or STFU, you deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Do you think labor competition is restricted to US Citizens? Is that what you’re saying?

Can you be more precise on what exactly you disagree with me?

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I agree. This bunch aren’t up to the task of defending America and our Constitution.

To the leadership of our political parties, the Constitution ranges from being a minor annoyance to a major stumbling block, the adherence of it obstructing their vision of a great and powerful central government of their elitist selves.

hawkeye54 on June 15, 2012 at 12:57 PM

The MERITS of the policy are not the issue. The MECHANISM is the issue. We are a nation of law, not of men. The President is not above the law. Don’t be a dumba** and get sucked into arguing the merits. The messaging from the base all the way up to Rubio needs to be: Rule by decree is un-American and un-Constitutional. PERIOD!

Just for once, let’s not be played by the Left into buying into their meme/traps. Just once.

ConservativeLA on June 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Barack Obama: He has no time for jobs but he does have time to dole out work permits

ninjapirate on June 15, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Obama should have used this move AFTER the Supreme Court upholds Arizona law. Now he’s down a good SQUIRREL.

El_Terrible on June 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Rush thinks that he is firing his political rounds early out of desperation.

Happy Nomad on June 15, 2012 at 12:59 PM

SO happy that you think you’ve found something.

Get a brain – at least half a brain – you deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 12:55 PM

What he wrote was, and I quote, “labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens”. I disagreed with it and you jumped on me with name-calling and talking about the Rule of Law.

Kind of weird, but oh well.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:01 PM

More importantly….where is Rush on this?!?

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:55 PM

He touched on it briefly in the first hour, but said he wouldn’t let it distract him from talking about yesterday’s Epic Fail O’bama speech.

He did however revise the title for his show today: “Open Borders Friday”.

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Gee, calm down a little…0 just announced his intentions of giving amnesty to a certain category of illegals…what now, was Boehner supposed to dream last night that Barkey would come up ith this novel idea thismkoring? gIve them time, they wiill respond to it one way or another….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM

How much time do you think should take Boehner, McConnell, GOP, etc. to make a statement to the press? This is an ILLEGAL act, to circumvent all laws on books, how much time does one need to say that, 2-3 simple sentences to the effect?

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Rush thinks that he is firing his political rounds early out of desperation.

Premature release isn’t supposed to be an attractive quality.

teke184 on June 15, 2012 at 1:02 PM

The messaging from the base all the way up to Rubio needs to be: Rule by decree is un-American and un-Constitutional. PERIOD!

Just for once, let’s not be played by the Left into buying into their meme/traps. Just once.

ConservativeLA on June 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Exactly! The issue isn’t the merits of the policy, that is for Congress to debate. The GOP needs to make this about the process in which Obama instituted this policy- not the illegal status of those it benefits.

Happy Nomad on June 15, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Rush thinks that he is firing his political rounds early out of desperation.

And, regrettably, he’s not out of ammunition yet and no one around willing to disarm him.

Duck, cover, lock and load….its already becoming a long summer, and officially it doesn’t start until next week.

hawkeye54 on June 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM

I’m going out on a limb here.

Two things:
First, I think he’ll lose a LOT of the union vote, what with ignoring WI last week and now this.

Second, it irks me BEYOND that “we can’t break up families” by deporting the parents while the children are legal citizens. Who said a family has to break up? Every time my dad was promoted, we moved to a different city/state. I was in seven schools by the time I was in eighth grade–think I had a choice? Nope! Neither do/did these kids. Mom and Dad are here illegally, you have to go where they go, even if it means back to their home nation. There is NOTHING stopping you from coming back here when you are eighteen, you are a citizen of this nation; however, until then, your parents are your guardians and they are here illegally. Those are the breaks, and while painful for you, it is unfair to everyone else. Above all, the current president is all about “fair”–and that cuts both ways.

What about the people who came here three weeks ago, what is to stop them from saying that they have been here since 2007?

Does this make me heartless? Maybe to some, but at what point do we say enough is enough? At what point do we say that there are unfortunate consequences to illegal entry to this nation? At what point, to the people cheering this latest move by BO, will they realize that this president has stomped on our great Constitution and now that sets a precedent for subsequent presidents to do the same?

herm2416 on June 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Get a brain. I was following your idiotic arguments from earlier comments and I know both what Rogue Tomato meant and what you were arguing.

STFU and go away you deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Holders of work permits and permanent rezidents are fine, methinks the topic here is illegal immigrantion….Can you refer to the law that states that illegal immigrants are allowed to be present and work in America. And by rhat I don’t mean some random executive order by the idiot who happens to inhabit the WH currently….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Nope, I don’t think illegal immigrants are allowed to stay in America.

I think anyone who knows how to read can understand the posts I replied to:

Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Oh, come on now, probably he lumped with ‘US citizens’ everybody with a legal right to work here, ….let’s get serious, the topic on this thread is illegal immigration and how illegal aliens can be turned into legal ones by an overnight executive order while circumventing the law of the land…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Wow….with all the flip-flopping, Obama is sounding more like Mitt everyday.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM

FTFY

VegasRick on June 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM

No, it was right the first time.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Premature release isn’t supposed to be an attractive quality.

Meh, Obama has no attractive qualities of any sort.

hawkeye54 on June 15, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Hmmm… Sheriff Joe says he’ll still arrest them anyway.

And he should. An Imperial Diktat with no basis in law (which requires Congress) shouldn’t be obeyed…

wildcat72 on June 15, 2012 at 1:05 PM

while i do want to point out that i have sympathy for people who were dragged illegally across the border by their parents, because it’s not their fault and they did not willingly break the law… ed’s comment was right. how exactly will this help the unemployment rate? smooth move, obama. -___-

R

ep. Allen West, R-Florida

“This is yet another example of executive branch overreach. We have a legislative process that ensures representative governance by the consent of the American people. This action should be crafted into legislation, debated in committee and brought before the House and Senate for vote, with accordance of our Constitutional Republic way. Secretary Napolitano is an unelected administrative bureaucrat who does not have the right to make governing decisions for this country. It is apparent that the goal of the Obama administration is not to govern, but rule by edict. This again is a reflection of the desperation of President Obama and his liberal progressive disciples as November draws nearer. …

THANK YOU allen west. you actually respect our laws, and you respect the limitations of government. thanks for making this point.

Sachiko on June 15, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Rush thinks that he is firing his political rounds early out of desperation.
.

Premature release isn’t supposed to be an attractive quality.

teke184
on June 15, 2012 at 1:02 PM

.
(forehead in hand, shaking head lightly) : )

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Oh, dear !
Hearing from many, wondering about the reaction of Conference of Catholic Bishops !!
Will they lock-step with the ‘plastic-face’ spokeswoman, Nanzi, who LOOOOVES this idea ??

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 1:09 PM

THANK YOU allen west. you actually respect our laws, and you respect the limitations of government. thanks for making this point.

Sachiko on June 15, 2012 at 1:06 PM

I am sure Boehner’s office is still researching the meaning of such words as “illegal”, “unlawful” and “royal”. But its only been less than 2 years, so let’s cut them some slack.

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Gee, calm down a little…0 just announced his intentions of giving amnesty to a certain category of illegals…what now, was Boehner supposed to dream last night that Barkey would come up ith this novel idea thismkoring? gIve them time, they wiill respond to it one way or another….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM

How much time do you think should take Boehner, McConnell, GOP, etc. to make a statement to the press? This is an ILLEGAL act, to circumvent all laws on books, how much time does one need to say that, 2-3 simple sentences to the effect?

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 1:01 PM

A few hours, maybe…a day, whatever it takes to givem a firm response, within the framework of the existing laws…it’s not like they will start issuing work permita to these illegas tomorrow or something …you realize they need an infrastructure for that, where will the homeland security get the manpower to start working on these work permits,issue them., etc…I am a naturalized citizen myself, only got my US citizenship 2 years ago, and have been a permanent resident for a while before that, it takes a lot of paperwork, time and money to actually provide somebody with a legal set of paperwork in this country…..so dom’t sweat it yet….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Oh, come on now, probably he lumped with ‘US citizens’ everybody with a legal right to work here, ….let’s get serious, the topic on this thread is illegal immigration and how illegal aliens can be turned into legal ones by an overnight executive order while circumventing the law of the land…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 1:04 PM

So? I disagreed with that precise poster for a reason. And frankly, considering some of his other statements in the past, I have some doubts about that “lumping” theory. Anyway, apparently you fully agree with me. Your post was a bit unnecessary, no?

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Get a brain. I was following your idiotic arguments from earlier comments and I know both what Rogue Tomato meant and what you were arguing.

STFU and go away you deranged imbecile.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Creepy.

I just disagreed with some guy who said “Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens” and with your notion that the Rule of Law sustains that. No need to get all fired up.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Moby

Bmore on June 15, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Meh, Obama has no attractive qualities of any sort.

hawkeye54 on June 15, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I’ve read that, describing the One and Only Messiah.
Surprised he hasn’t used that yet.
Wait, praps not flattering enough, but, hey.
;-)

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 1:14 PM

If Obama is formally stating that the Administration will engage in selective enforcement of a law, or will craft a new law, that seems to me to be an impeachable offense–he is explicitly violating the Constitution. Has someone laid down a marker on this?

Arguing the merits of the EO is immaterial.

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 1:15 PM

You are being played. Think Lucy and football. Wise up.

ConservativeLA on June 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Dictator of the United States?
Destroyer of the United States?

Dismantler of the United States?

DOTUS.

PappyD61 on June 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM

.
DDDOTUS?

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

.
Works for me. : )

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Diktator Uf the Former United States.

DUFUS!

psrch on June 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

The GOP will do nothing but flap their lips…

PatriotRider on June 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Bmore on June 15, 2012 at 1:13 PM

What’s funny, is the fact that she is one of the “Mitt Supporters” who came in during the Open Registration…one of the crowd who called any Conservative with any reservatiions about him “stupid” and a “TrueCon”.

Now, excuse me, let me grab my popcorn.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Ted Cruz is blasting it all via Twitchy.

pambi on June 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

A few hours, maybe…a day, whatever it takes to givem a firm response, within the framework of the existing laws…it’s not like they will start issuing work permita to these illegas tomorrow or something …you realize they need an infrastructure for that, where will the homeland security get the manpower to start working on these work permits,issue them., etc…I am a naturalized citizen myself, only got my US citizenship 2 years ago, and have been a permanent resident for a while before that, it takes a lot of paperwork, time and money to actually provide somebody with a legal set of paperwork in this country…..so dom’t sweat it yet….

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I know all about the “paperwork”. Too bad none of it will be required in this case. With such a royal decree states will now won’t be inclined to even detain illegals at this point, hopefully you understand that.

Something like this SHOULD NOT take a day to respond to. Or, rather, CANNOT. House must make a stand, once and for all, and send a message that any new royal decree will be met by a cut of funds to any agency involved. And I’d also call a vote in the House, IMMEDIATELY, on 2 resolutions, one to vote on this DREAM act BS, up or down, and second to cut funding to any agency involved, up or down. Let’s see how many Dems will vote UP with November coming.

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM

The Republicans are not going to fight to hard against Obama’s illegal immigration garbage. They know its a hot potato. And if Obama gets it done, without getting any Republicans hands dirty then they are going to let him get away with it.

portlandon on June 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Creepy.

I just disagreed with some guy who said “Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens” and with your notion that the Rule of Law sustains that. No need to get all fired up.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM

No. You were running along the lines of:

True. The problem is that voters don’t really care about process issues.

The GOP should have moved Rubio’s bill much faster.

It was pure stupidity to allow Obama to play this card.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM

You’re a deranged imbecile who has no respect for the Rule of Law and even less respect for American Sovereignty.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM

portlandon on June 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Exactly right, my friend.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Is there any way to arrest this madman???…I mean really…at this point a US military take-over of the government almost is preferable…

PatriotRider on June 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM

There are two requirements that have to be met.

The first requirement is that the person must have been brought to the United States before they turned 16. That’s one requirement all on it’s own. If they don’t meet that requirement, then they won’t benefit from this rule.

ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM

So… They have to document when they became undocumented.

Fallon on June 15, 2012 at 1:21 PM

So? I disagreed with that precise poster for a reason. And frankly, considering some of his other statements in the past, I have some doubts about that “lumping” theory. Anyway, apparently you fully agree with me. Your post was a bit unnecessary, no?

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Of course I agree with you, the problem is illegals, not people who are here to work legally. even in the case of illegals who are already hereI know that something will have to be done about it, sooner or later …but not unilaterally, through some random executive by a desperate politician who has everything to lose coming this Nov…I believe it is the Congress through consultations with all involved should come up with a solution to this mess…as for that poster, haven’t seen any of his others posts , so I can’t comment on it..

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I want to see this SOB in an orange jump suit and chains…

PatriotRider on June 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Exactly right, my friend.

kingsjester on June 15, 2012 at 1:19 PM

There are a lot of Republicans quietly high fiving each other and look forward to being off the hook for any real immigration reform in the near future.

It makes me sick Kingjester. Absolutely disgusted.

portlandon on June 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Wow….with all the flip-flopping, Obama is sounding more like Mitt everyday.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Could be. But Romney tends to flip in the right direction.

I’m not very trusting of Mitt, but lately he is taking the correct (right?) positions. And Rush speaks positively of him.

I’m sure Rush’s comments are important to you.

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

House must make a stand, once and for all, and send a message that any new royal decree will be met by a cut of funds to any agency involved. And I’d also call a vote in the House, IMMEDIATELY, on 2 resolutions, one to vote on this DREAM act BS, up or down, and second to cut funding to any agency involved, up or down. Let’s see how many Dems will vote UP with November coming.

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM

i won’t disagree with you on that….as for the immediacy of it, I am relatively patient…I’d be content with. a statement from the House majority leader at this point and waitt for it to be turned into a vote in the house asap after that…

jimver on June 15, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Another desperate distraction by Obama. His approval has dropped to 44 on Gallup today.

midgeorgian on June 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

I want to see this SOB in an orange jump suit and chains…

PatriotRider on June 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

This is a pretty cut-and-dried example of tyranny. The question is – are we gonna just submit to this?

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Best GOP response: Sen. Rubio (yes, Rubio) gets in front of the cameras and on the record right now denouncing this as an unconstitutional and impeachable overreach. And asserts that in this country the legislature makes the law and the executive executes it–no other way.

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

True. The problem is that voters don’t really care about process issues.

The GOP should have moved Rubio’s bill much faster.

It was pure stupidity to allow Obama to play this card.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM

You’re a deranged imbecile who has no respect for the Rule of Law and even less respect for American Sovereignty.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM

So, why didn’t you reply to that post?

Does this mean you aren’t defending that “Labor competition is supposed to be between US Citizens” any more?

Is so, I’m happy I played a small part in that evolution.

As for that, what exactly constitutes a disrespect for the Rule of Law and American Sovereignty? Are you talking about me or Senator Rubio?

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Creepy.

joana on June 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM

You sure are, creepier than the leftists.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

This is a pretty cut-and-dried example of tyranny. The question is – are we gonna just submit to this?

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

According to Boehner and McConnell, YES.

riddick on June 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Best GOP response: Sen. Rubio (yes, Rubio) gets in front of the cameras and on the record right now denouncing this as an unconstitutional and impeachable overreach. And asserts that in this country the legislature makes the law and the executive executes it–no other way.

spiritof61 on June 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Dream on – he is for the DREAM act.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

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