Breaking: Obama administration to loosen deportation rules

posted at 10:44 am on June 15, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

So, the “framing” economic speech yesterday was a bust — yeah, they’re going to need us to move away from that ol’ chestnut pretty quickly — so here comes the next big talking point in the Obama-campaign wheelhouse.

President Obama has decided that the Homeland Security Department will no longer deport younger illegal immigrants who haven’t broken the law, and will instead issue them work permits.

 The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of an influential Latino electorate that has been vocal in its opposition to administration deportation policies.

The policy change, described to The Associated Press by two senior administration officials, will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants who have lived in fear of deportation. It also bypasses Congress and partially achieves the goals of the so-called DREAM Act, a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was to announce the new policy Friday, one week before President Barack Obama plans to address the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials’ annual conference in Orlando, Fla. Republican presidential challenger Mitt Romney is scheduled to speak to the group on Thursday.

Updates to follow…

Update: At least as far as the Latino community is concerned (and opinion abounds on the electoral significance of Latinos as a voting group, and whether they really vote so monolithically), this is going to present a stiff challenge for Romney’s campaign. As ABC points out:

The Obama administration is likely to deny that politics played a role in the announcement, but the timing is ideal for the president’s reelection campaign. In the GOP primary, Mitt Romney adopted strictly conservative positions against illegal immigration in his effort to woo right-wing voters. He backs a strong fence along the border with Mexico, opposes most amnesty and boasts of his move as Massachusetts governor to deny in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. …

Obama’s announcement today is likely to curry favor with Hispanics, a key growing voting bloc who could determine the winner in November in important states like Florida, Colorado and Nevada. The president currently beats Romney among Hispanics in polls, but most Latinos say they disapprove of his deportation policy.

Deportation rates under President Obama have actually been relatively high — a point about which many Latino voters and immigration advocates have been displeased. This could be a crucial appeasement-move that will inspire Latinos to get to polls in November.

Can President Obama even do this without Congressional approval? I’m not sure, but then again, it hardly matters. If he can, great; if he can’t, great: It’s just another jab he can aim at an “obstructionist,” “do-nothing” Congress.

Update (Ed): So …. he’s going to hand out hundreds of thousands of work permits when unemployment is at 8.2% nominal, 14.8% U-6, and the civilian participation rate is near the 30-year low Obama set last month (now 63.8%)?  The only thing this accomplishes is driving the labor rate further downward and the unemployment rate further upward.  Work permits make sense when you’re creating jobs, but not when jobs are scarce.  I’m not sure that’s going to endear Obama to unions and blue-collar voters struggling to find work already.

Update (back to Erika): A calculated move to steal some of Sen. Marco Rubio’s alternative-DREAM-Act thunder? It’s widely known that Sen. Rubio has been crafting legislation that would give visas to undocumented immigrants who were brought here as children if they attend college or join the military, though it would not provide legal permanent residency — and President Obama’s plan sounds pretty darn similar. Plenty of Republicans aren’t exactly thanking Rubio for his upcoming proposal, but as a tea-party rockstar with Hispanic roots, Rubio is a major threat to Democrats’ claim that they’re the best political party for Latinos’ interests. Team Obama definitely needed to get out in front on this one.

Update: Here are some immediate reactions from our Congresspeople concerning the Obama campaign’s — er, sorry, I mean, the White House’s — newest immigration policy.

Rep. Allen West, R-Florida

“This is yet another example of executive branch overreach. We have a legislative process that ensures representative governance by the consent of the American people. This action should be crafted into legislation, debated in committee and brought before the House and Senate for vote, with accordance of our Constitutional Republic way. Secretary Napolitano is an unelected administrative bureaucrat who does not have the right to make governing decisions for this country. It is apparent that the goal of the Obama administration is not to govern, but rule by edict. This again is a reflection of the desperation of President Obama and his liberal progressive disciples as November draws nearer. …

Sen. Robert Menendez, D-New Jersey

“For all the young people who call this country their home but have been unable to fulfill their dreams, I am profoundly grateful to the President and the Administration for suspending the deportation of Dreamers. For these young men and women who want to become doctors, teachers, police officers and soldiers, this announcement will change their lives forever.”

Update: Let Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano be clear: This is not to be confused with amnesty.

“A grant of deferred action is not immunity, it is not amnesty,” Napolitano told reporters. “It is an exercise of discretion.”

Update: Sen. Rubio responded by saying that the content of Obama’s proposal is “welcome news,” but was quick to decry the manner of it:

“Today’s announcement will be welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer, but it is a short term answer to a long term problem,” the Cuban American Rubio said in a statement. “And by once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long term one.”


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faraway on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

I guess you guys have given up on Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. How does this move help you there?

William Eaton on June 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Which is why libfreeordie didn’t answer all of my questions. Only the one they could give a positive spin to.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Why deport voters?

FerdtheMoonCat on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

You know today would be an awesome day for the SCOTUS to rule on ObamaCare and the Arizona law.

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM

I’m not convinced that this regime will even comply with what SCOTUS says if they don’t like it.

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Does the timing of this have anything to do with making sure Rubio is not on the ticket?

txmomof6 on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

This is about Amnesty to get votes.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:12 AM

You must be so proud of him.

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

What other little goodies will be tossed out on upcoming Fridays between now and the election, whether to secure his re-anointment or to set things into cement before vacating his White House?

Après moi le déluge.

Drained Brain on June 15, 2012 at 11:15 AM
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Fridays are normally reserved for document dumps. As you suggest, it will now be give-away Fridays until Nov. Unfortunately to many it doesn’t matter whether he actually succeeds, “it’s the thought that counts”.

diogenes on June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Look at any system based on the crap you tout and you don’t find equality, liberty or a classless society – you find dictators and oppressed serfs.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM

You have been to western Europe haven’t you? They are, of course, imperfect societies, but they aren’t run by dictators and the citizens aren’t “depressed serfs.” Capitalism is great. But, like socialism, capitalism can take many forms. And the version we’ve been engaging in from the Reagan era till now, with almost no real alterations, is proving itself unsustainable. You are forced to look at the USSR or Venezuela because they are examples of communism gone wrong. But marxism has informed very succesful governments and been merged effectively with capitalism in western Europe and Canada.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Thanks to Obama (and somewhat to W) the office of U.S. President is rapidly expanding its reaxh and power to the point where it will soon be almost indistinguishable from that od tyrants It is time for the Supreme Court and Congress to assert themselves and act as a check against the idea before we reach the point of no return.

McDuck on June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

So …. he’s going to hand out hundreds of thousands of work permits when unemployment is at 8.2% nominal, 14.8% U-6, and the civilian participation rate is near the 30-year low Obama set last month (now 63.8%)?

Team Romney’s counterattack in a nutshell.

First he says we need more government employees and government dependent jobs (to build more infrastructure). Now he says we need more immigrants competing with American citizens in the domestic job market.

What’s next? Hiring illegal immigrants for all those new government supported jobs?

farsighted on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:25 AM

That would be YOUR party, libtardanddie. Your party is the one puts labels on everything. Your party is the one who seeks to give breaks for the color of ones skin, want to allow those criminals who broke the law and snuck over the border like a common thief (or overstayed their VISA and are in hiding) an easy path to citizenship and want to completely ignore the Constitution and force everyone to pay for abortions and contraception, whether their religion permits it or not.

Wolftech on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

According to Allen West, it will be “effective immediately”.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

The big problem is not the particulars of the rules, but the fact that 0 routinely ignores the Constitution. And everyone else let’s him get away with it.

pedestrian on June 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM

While I agree with that, we have to remind ourselves that a bunch of lazy congresses have created this problem.

Congress has steadily abrogated it’s responsibilities (within lazy legislation) to the Executive Branch time and time again.

Congress needs to reassert it’s power over legislation. They need to craft laws that cannot be construed by the Executive Branch however they want it to be for their political purposes.

ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

So …. he’s going to hand out hundreds of thousands of work permits when unemployment is at 8.2% nominal, 14.8% U-6, and the civilian participation rate is near the 30-year low Obama set last month (now 63.8%)? The only thing this accomplishes is driving the labor rate further downward and the unemployment rate further upward. Work permits make sense when you’re creating jobs, but not when jobs are scarce. I’m not sure that’s going to endear Obama to unions and blue-collar voters struggling to find work already.

Yes, but it creates more division among people and races — straight out of Saul Alinsky.

lea on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

If you break the law, but haven’t broken other laws, we will not punish you, but reward you with something that law abiding citizens stand on line for years for.

Good God what did you stupid Libs do when you elected this eighwhole?

CycloneCDB on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Is this going to be another thread that commenters are going to allow libfreeordie take over?

Don’t respond to this person and when he gets tired of talking to himself, he’ll leave.

bluefox on June 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM

But marxism has informed very succesful governments and been merged effectively with capitalism in western Europe and Canada.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

LOL! Western Europe is bankrupt and Christians are already being actively persecuted in Canada almost as bad as some Turd-World nations across the Pacific. You call that successful?!?

MelonCollie on June 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM

According to my sources (Wikipedia):

The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct peculiar to officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, conduct unbecoming, and refusal to obey a lawful order.

Apparently, Obama considers this to be a checklist.

topdog on June 15, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Job creation for illegals…good

Job creation for US citizens…bad

PatriotRider on June 15, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Yes, but it creates more division among people and races — straight out of Saul Alinsky.

lea on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

So are you saying that labor competition justifies racism?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Can someone show me in the constitution where this is allowed? “crickets”

Mini-14 on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Don’t respond to this person and when he gets tired of talking to himself, he’ll leave.

bluefox on June 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM

That’s like trying to make some lunatic on a street corner go away by not listening to his shouting.

The only real solution is when the guys in the white coats haul him off to the funny farm. Or in this case, when the banhammer descends for being a longtime, utterly hopeless libtard troll.

MelonCollie on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

While I agree with that, we have to remind ourselves that a bunch of lazy congresses have created this problem.

Congress has steadily abrogated it’s responsibilities (within lazy legislation) to the Executive Branch time and time again.

Congress needs to reassert it’s power over legislation. They need to craft laws that cannot be construed by the Executive Branch however they want it to be for their political purposes.

ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Congress doing nothing is the way it was designed. Gridlock keeps stupid legislation like this from being enacted.

CycloneCDB on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Romney is one lucky SOB. Wasn’t that long ago that TPers are suppose to be unenthusiastic for the RINO from Taxassuchssetts? But after a couple of months Obama extremism, and especially this one, there is absolutely no choice for the future but support Romney full-tilt.

Apologetic California on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I was going to comment but

Why deport voters?

FerdtheMoonCat on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

beat me to it. Darn you. LOL.

ColdWarrior57 on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

According to Allen West, it will be “effective immediately”.

tencole on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Peachy

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Hispanics that were clamoring for amnesty were already going to pull the lever for Obama anyway.

This HAS to be political poison in the Rust Belt and Midwest. You’d be amazed how many Democrats I know absolutely hate open border policies.

BradTank on June 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

You know today would be an awesome day for the SCOTUS to rule on ObamaCare and the Arizona law.

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM

I’m not convinced that this regime will even comply with what SCOTUS says if they don’t like it.

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

The Andrew Jackson tactic of “They made their ruling, let’s see them enforce it” would end up causing major long-term problems for Bambi and the administration, as SCOTUS and the other federal courts will express their displeasure in many cases before them.

Remember when the 5th Circuit called out a US Attorney over Marbury v Madison after Bambi ran his mouth about SCOTUS not having the ability to overrule him?

Imagine that happening on ALL cases argued by the administration until they decided they were going to comply with the rulings, with the court threatening summary judgments on all cases until they did.

Picking a fight with SCOTUS is not a smart move, but this administration isn’t that smart.

teke184 on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Update (Ed): So …. he’s going to hand out hundreds of thousands of work permits when unemployment is at 8.2% nominal, 14.8% U-6, and the civilian participation rate is near the 30-year low Obama set last month (now 63.8%)? The only thing this accomplishes is driving the labor rate further downward and the unemployment rate further upward.

Well, he’d never intentionally do that (/s), and I doubt he’d be able to get this implemented with much success before the election, so it appears the Obama has a lot of faith in a future President Romney’s economic policy plans.

Dusty on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Black teen unemployment rate is at 40%.

Hispanic teen unemployment rate is at 30%.

Add 800,000.

Way to think things through.

When will the GOP gow some and put a stop to this dictator?

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

He has been working so hard on this for 3 1/2 years and now it has come top fruition. Anyone who says that this is politically motivated is offensive.

rjoco1 on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Can someone show me in the constitution where this is allowed? “crickets”

Mini-14 on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I’d point it out, but Obama rolled it up and smoked it with his CHOOM buddies.

portlandon on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

HiJack on June 15, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Step 2: declare work permits to be valid ID for voting…

affenhauer on June 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM

This HAS to be political poison in the Rust Belt and Midwest. You’d be amazed how many Democrats I know absolutely hate open border policies.

BradTank on June 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

You do know that even if you don’t say “white Democrats” everyone still knows that you’re hoping for this to turn off white voters, taking advantage of racial antipathy towards Latinos. No one is fooled.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM

You have been to western Europe haven’t you? They are, of course, imperfect societies, but they aren’t run by dictators and the citizens aren’t “depressed serfs.” Capitalism is great. But, like socialism, capitalism can take many forms. And the version we’ve been engaging in from the Reagan era till now, with almost no real alterations, is proving itself unsustainable. You are forced to look at the USSR or Venezuela because they are examples of communism gone wrong. But marxism has informed very succesful governments and been merged effectively with capitalism in western Europe and Canada.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Western European democracies don’t have any of the features you were touting. They aren’t classless, have worse economies than us, have a lower standard of living etc. The only reason they can “afford” their massive, lavish but still failing welfare states is because they have the American guarantee of safety provided by our military. They also enjoy a lot less liberty than we do directly as a result of their marxist lessons learned.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:45 AM

“…will no longer deport younger illegal immigrants who haven’t broken the law…” HUH?

It is a crime, a BREAKing of the LAW to enter the United States ILLEGALLY.

Pork-Chop on June 15, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Can someone show me in the constitution where this is allowed? “crickets”

Mini-14 on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I’d point it out, but Obama rolled it up and smoked it with his CHOOM buddies.

portlandon on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Winner!

HiJack on June 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

If we funded secondary education through the sales tax, rather than through property taxes that would solve that problem and how. But then middle class suburbanites wouldn’t have much leverage over district lines and people might not be able to keep their kids away from those “bad” inner city children.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

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Care to give in on Vouchers then? Not that this is the topic or anything….

oldroy on June 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM

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If we funded ALL government through sales tax, rather than property, income, capital gains, and inheritance taxes, the economy would go gangbusters.
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Then start a “voucher” system to pre-empt public schools.

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

According to Allen West, it will be “effective immediately”.

Well then, what is Allen West and the rest of the Republican Congress going to do about it besides tell us that this is a reason to vote for a Republican Senate? The answer is NOTHING, except ask for money from us for their campaigns. The day after Senator Cornyn made his pitch on the F&F kabookie theatre, I received an email from him asking for donations to the Republican organization he is Chairman of.

I was happy for Republicans to “do nothing” as a minority, but…..oh, what’s the use.

lea on June 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Romney is one lucky SOB. Wasn’t that long ago that TPers are suppose to be unenthusiastic for the RINO from Taxassuchssetts? But after a couple of months Obama extremism, and especially this one, there is absolutely no choice for the future but support Romney full-tilt.

Apologetic California on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Yeah, being a Christian I am one who felt uncomfortable about voting for Romney especially because of the so called Mormon White Horse Prophecy, but I was willing to possibly vote for Romney because I didn’t want Obama to be back in. Now however, it’s looking like there is absolutely no choice except to fully support Romney as Obama is getting desperate and may completely destroy the country if he maintains his current address.

MobileVideoEngineer on June 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

You must be so proud of him.

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Sometimes doing the right thing and political strategy collide, so in this instance. Yes.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM

If we funded secondary education through the sales tax, rather than through property taxes that would solve that problem and how.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I live in a state with no sales tax.

You’re being played for a chump.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Look in the mirror.

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Can someone show me in the constitution where this is allowed? “crickets”

Mini-14 on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

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I’d point it out, but Obama rolled it up and smoked it with his CHOOM buddies.

portlandon on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM
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Winner!

HiJack on June 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

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OH YEAH ! : )

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Apologetic California on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Heh.

Leave it to Obama to make moderate Mitt seem like a full blown TEA party conservative.

WisRich on June 15, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Western European democracies don’t have any of the features you were touting. They aren’t classless, have worse economies than us, have a lower standard of living etc. The only reason they can “afford” their massive, lavish but still failing welfare states is because they have the American guarantee of safety provided by our military. They also enjoy a lot less liberty than we do directly as a result of their marxist lessons learned.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:45 AM

So you’ve never been then….

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Congress doing nothing is the way it was designed. Gridlock keeps stupid legislation like this from being enacted.

CycloneCDB on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

No. Current immigration laws allowed a broad enough reading where this president could enact such a rule without any repercussions from the Judicial Branch.

The current laws should have been crafted better.

It’s really that simple. This isn’t the first time this has happened. We’ve all seen this dog and pony show before.

And until better legislation is crafted stopping this type of abuse, it will continue.

Keep in mind that the Immigration Act from back in the 80′s is what caused the subcontractor boom. It was a way to circumvent the law and with it, it created a new slew of problems.

The amnesty that was given back then set us up for this event.

ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

bluefox on June 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM
That’s like trying to make some lunatic on a street corner go away by not listening to his shouting.

The only real solution is when the guys in the white coats haul him off to the funny farm. Or in this case, when the banhammer descends for being a longtime, utterly hopeless libtard troll.

MelonCollie on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Many forums/blogs have monitors and control this type of troll that way. HA doesn’t and it is up to the commenters to control it. I’ve seen every thread that libfreeordie is on take over the topic due to others’ responding. That just encourages a troll. That is their purpose; talk about what THEY want to talk about. It’s an intended DISTRACTION.

Regarding the lunatic on the street corner…Why would anyone stay around and listen to him?

bluefox on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Never fear. This is the comment from the Hill article linked by Drudge:


A number of Republicans criticized the move, arguing it could be illegal.

They have things well in hand!/

Night Owl on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

He has been working so hard on this for 3 1/2 years and now it has come top fruition. Anyone who says that this is politically motivated is offensive.

rjoco1 on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

LOL. He could have shat all over the Constitution and acted like Joe Dog-Eating Stalin any time he wanted. Barky needs to be impeached, tossed out of office and prosecuted for treason. This is very serious stuff.

And his supporters are the worst America-haters to have ever existed in this nation. Despicable, lying scumbags every single one of them. They are also to be recorded in future history books as the most pathetic and worst wastes of flesh to have ever walked the Earth, intentionally destroying the greatest nation to have ever existed … just because of their petty emotional problems.

You people are the lowest of the low. Despicable. Disgusting.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Anyone who says that this is politically motivated is offensive.

rjoco1 on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

This is politically motivated.

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

You do know that even if you don’t say “white Democrats” everyone still knows that you’re hoping for this to turn off white voters, taking advantage of racial antipathy towards Latinos. No one is fooled.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM

All you have is the race card and the class card – and when they conflict I guess you pick the class card. I don’t imagine black working class Democrats are thrilled with this either. Only in the mind of white liberals are minorities some monolithic homogeneous group that all think and act the same and get along. And they still have the gall to call conservatives racist.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

So you’re ok with enslaving some citizens to improve the lives of other citizens?

That some of us don’t need or want government in our daily lives via retirement or health care for example doesn’t matter to you or your ilk. You would deny us the ability to look after ourselves and force us through government to be part of the collective.

And you’re ok with that. The Hell with freedom of real choice.

Charlemagne on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Regarding the lunatic on the street corner…Why would anyone stay around and listen to him?

bluefox on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Amusement value.

MelonCollie on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Hey Bambi! How about work permits for my undocumented pharmacist and undocumented girlfriend!??!!?!??!

VikingGoneWild on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

So you’ve never been then….

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

I have vacationed as well as lived in Western Europe. How about you?

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Can someone show me in the constitution where this is allowed? “crickets”

Mini-14 on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I’d point it out, but Obama rolled it up and smoked it with his CHOOM buddies.

portlandon on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Well, it is printed on hemp paper!

Mini-14 on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Very Reaganesque of him.

verbaluce on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Care to give in on Vouchers then? Not that this is the topic or anything….

oldroy on June 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I’m fine with vouchers. My problem is that the lottery system is cruel and that many good public/private schools a: won’t accept enough students to meet demand or b: will only accept exceptional students. Those who are just average are left behind. Its a start but not a perfect solution.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM

A number of Republicans criticized the move, arguing it could be illegal.

They have things well in hand!/

Night Owl on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Ya think?

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM

So are you saying that labor competition justifies racism?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

No, that’s just how the libiots like you will play it. And Obama knows that. He will guarantee that it plays out like this:

“I’m pissed that Obama just added 800,000 people to the workforce to compete with me!”

“You’re just a racist who hates Hispanics.”

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Take a quick look at DRUDGE…I think he is going to single handidly sink this idiot we have for a President…

PatriotRider on June 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Anyone who says that this is politically motivated is offensive.

rjoco1 on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

This is an impeachable and prosecutable crime. Motivation dosn’t really matter, though we all know that destruction of America is the motivation.

Why don’t you move to a nation closer to your ideal than America, like any other nation on Earth, you miserable worm.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Just in time for Obama’s trip to Mexico next week. Won’t help any with Putin, but hey, that’s not the point..

TN Mom on June 15, 2012 at 11:53 AM

I have vacationed as well as lived in Western Europe. How about you?

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

And you saw less liberty than you would see at your average galleria in Missouri? OK….

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:53 AM

A number of Republicans criticized the move, arguing it could be illegal.

They have things well in hand!/

Night Owl on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Ya think?

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM

On this, like many other things, I suspect they only have one thing in their hand…

affenhauer on June 15, 2012 at 11:53 AM

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Then start a “voucher” system to pre-empty public schools.

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Redaction.

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 11:53 AM

You do know that even if you don’t say “white Democrats” everyone still knows that you’re hoping for this to turn off white voters, taking advantage of racial antipathy towards Latinos. No one is fooled.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM

All you have is the race card and the class card – and when they conflict I guess you pick the class card. I don’t imagine black working class Democrats are thrilled with this either. Only in the mind of white liberals are minorities some monolithic homogeneous group that all think and act the same and get along. And they still have the gall to call conservatives racist.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM

There it is. I think you hit the nail on the head and it shows that it’s not the conservatives who are racist. Only liberals believe that white people can be different from each other apparently. No way in the world can blacks or hispanics side with anyone else outside of their race or ethnic group unless they have been brainwashed by evil conservatives.

MobileVideoEngineer on June 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Very Reaganesque of him.

verbaluce on June 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

While I disagree with what Reagan did, at least he did it in 1986, during a boom in the economy, not during a recession/depression.

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Anyone who says that this is politically motivated is offensive.

rjoco1 on June 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM

If this isn’t politically motivated – why didn’t he do it 2 years ago?

gophergirl on June 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM

You have been to western Europe haven’t you? They are, of course, imperfect societies, but they aren’t run by dictators and the citizens aren’t “depressed serfs.” Capitalism is great. But, like socialism, capitalism can take many forms. And the version we’ve been engaging in from the Reagan era till now, with almost no real alterations, is proving itself unsustainable. You are forced to look at the USSR or Venezuela because they are examples of communism gone wrong. But marxism has informed very succesful governments and been merged effectively with capitalism in western Europe and Canada.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Breathtaking.

Currently the unemployment rate in France is higher than ours. Italy’s is above 8%. As is Canada’s.

Del Dolemonte on June 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Yes, but it creates more division among people and races — straight out of Saul Alinsky.

lea on June 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

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So are you saying that labor competition justifies racism?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

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FOR THE SECOND TIME . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Racism is a false-charge used when all other strategies have failed.

I also believe “white guilt” had a big part in Obama’s win 2008.

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM

“The fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there’s been a great disservice done to the cause of getting the Dream Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things. It’s just not true,” Mr. Obama said last year.
-TFHP

Libfree…this is where you put on your “I’m A Chump” t-shirt.

Bishop on June 15, 2012 at 11:54 AM

“I’m pissed that Obama just added 800,000 people to the workforce to compete with me!”

“You’re just a racist who hates Hispanics.”

The Rogue Tomato on June 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM

So labor comptetition is good when it busts unions, but bad in every other instance? How is that pro-free market again?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM

It’s widely known that Sen. Rubio has been crafting legislation that would give visas to undocumented immigrants who were brought here as children if they attend college or join the military

Who needs legislation anymore when you’ve got a dictator in the White House? That’s sooo 2007. No more need for committees and votes in Congress, and those pesky elections and letters from constituents. Just do a popularity poll and sign an executive order.

Socratease on June 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Obama to 30 million unemployed: “Eat more Ramen noodles”

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM

How long before we start hearing stories about Border Patrol agents seeing increased numbers of illegal aliens smuggling their children across the border?

Mark1971 on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Enough already! Impeach.

ncjetsfan on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

You do know that even if you don’t say “white Democrats” everyone still knows that you’re hoping for this to turn off white voters, taking advantage of racial antipathy towards Latinos. No one is fooled.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM

More like voters with at least half-functioning brains. Anybody who’s spent time in the Midwest knows they’ve got some traditional values and they value good ol’ common sense.

“Racial antipathy towards Latinos” is not the same as “legitimate frustration with those here illegally who are willing to (and in many cases, HAVE to) accept lower wages than actual American citizens.” Folks of all ethnicities understand the key differences there.

Aquarian on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Your president is a Fluke.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

We are getting conflicting messages on this.

1. Will this move likely increase the unemployment rate? If so, it causes more damage than it is worth. Desperation.

2. Will these illegals then be allowed to vote? Some posters are saying yes, some no. It matters. Can’t imagine why BO would do this if it didn’t garner him 800,000 or so votes.

matthew8787 on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

So labor comptetition is good when it busts unions, but bad in every other instance? How is that pro-free market again?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Labor competition is great when there’s a job to compete for…

affenhauer on June 15, 2012 at 11:57 AM

How long before we start hearing stories about Border Patrol agents seeing increased numbers of illegal aliens smuggling their children across the border?

Mark1971 on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

That’s my worry.

ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Then start a “voucher” system to pre-empty public schools.

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

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Redaction.

davidk on June 15, 2012 at 11:53 AM

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Correction noted, and accepted. : )

listens2glenn on June 15, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Western European democracies don’t have any of the features you were touting. They aren’t classless, have worse economies than us, have a lower standard of living etc.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:45 AM

What? Come on! The ring suburbs of Paris are models of integration, inclusion, and economic success which is why there are so many areas in them where only the most heavily-armed of police dare to venture.

Bishop on June 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Does this make the 800,000 eligible for welfare, foodstamps, free cellphones, sec 8 housing, wic, medicaid, disability, soc security, unemployment for 99 weeks, instate tuition, pell grants ect???? We are so sick and tired of putting forward all the risks of starting and running a small business, obeying the law, paying our taxes, dealing with all the regulations and bs, saving and paying for our childrens education, taking care of our parents and having to foot the bill for other peoples bad choices and illegal behaviors. Honestly how much more can taxpayers take?

ldbgcoleman on June 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM

“Racial antipathy towards Latinos” is not the same as “legitimate frustration with those here illegally who are willing to (and in many cases, HAVE to) accept lower wages than actual American citizens.” Folks of all ethnicities understand the key differences there.

Aquarian on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

So, let me get this straight:

1. Labor competition to bust unions = free market and liberty.

2. Exporting jobs to cheaper labor sources over seas = justified if American labor is too expensive.

3. Ending the minimum wage = good for the overall economy.

4. Adding 800,000 latino workers who may depress wages = bad?

How can all 4 of those be true?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM

And you saw less liberty than you would see at your average galleria in Missouri? OK….

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:53 AM

For starters, freedom of speech is curtailed in Europe (and Canada) – they don’t have constitutions which protect freedom of expression.

It’s no longer safe to be Jewish in parts of France and Sweden. You can’t speak out against fundamentalist Islamic practices without getting authentic death threats (see the Netherlands).

Take French laws that are common to other European countries which severely restrict companies hiring, firing and operational practices. Companies are wary to hire people in good times because they won’t be able to get rid of them in bad times.

Take the riots England last year – welfare brats rioted and destroyed local businesses and stole property. Not because they were starving but because the government was considering contracting benefits to try in some small way conform to financial reality. Many Brits are dependents of the state and like it that way (again thanks to their marxist lessons learned).

The Italian government is a huge patronage system – which is not uncommon in Europe.

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Romney should say…

Obama is confused. You add foreign workers when you have worker shortages, not when you have job shortages.

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM

I’m not convinced that this regime will even comply with what SCOTUS says if they don’t like it.

TarheelBen on June 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

You will hear the phrase “unelected” a million times over the next 5 months.

VegasRick on June 15, 2012 at 12:01 PM

What other little goodies will be tossed out on upcoming Fridays between now and the election, whether to secure his re-anointment or to set things into cement before vacating his White House?

Après moi le déluge.

Drained Brain on June 15, 2012 at 11:15 AM

I’m waiting for the holiday on Federal gas taxes. It’s the sort of cheap, easy pandering for votes that’s right down Obama’s alley. And the fact that it’ll increase the deficit won’t bother him at all.

hawksruleva on June 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Here’s a Republican debate about the issue…
back when the GOP was capable of thoughtful and reasonable discussion on the issue -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixi9_cciy8w

Imagine either of those guys being allowed to say anything like that today.

verbaluce on June 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

It also bypasses Congress and partially achieves the goals of the so-called DREAM Act, a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.

THIS is what a second Obama term with a GOP Congress will look like.

Bitter Clinger on June 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

gwelf on June 15, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I never said they were classless or even that they didn’t have systemic racism and ethnocentrism as Bishop pointed out. They do. But they also are not dictatorships. Your claim was that these ideas inevitably lead to dictatorships and serfdoms and that’s not true.

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Does this make the 800,000 eligible for welfare, foodstamps, free cellphones, sec 8 housing, wic, medicaid, disability, soc security, unemployment for 99 weeks, instate tuition, pell grants ect????

ldbgcoleman on June 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Excellent. Everyday, Romney should ask Obama to respond to these open questions that unemployed Americans want answered.

faraway on June 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Remind me again???…

Why are US soldiers dying in other hellhole countries?…so that the CIC and allow illegal aliens to come to the US, settle in, get a job, pay no taxes and get a tax refund, get free stuff (Medicaid, Medicare, healthcare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, welfare, free education, college aid…) and we (real citizens) have to pay for this???…

When is someone going to go the White House and arrest this piece of $hit and put him in jail???…when….when…???…

PatriotRider on June 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

So are you saying that labor competition justifies racism?

The fact that you have to ask that question tells me that it is another division, whether it’s race against race, rich against middle class, war against women, legal against illegal, etc. Stay tuned, I’m sure there will be more.

lea on June 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

2. Will these illegals then be allowed to vote? Some posters are saying yes, some no. It matters. Can’t imagine why BO would do this if it didn’t garner him 800,000 or so votes.

matthew8787 on June 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Of course it will get him votes. Who goes back and checks the rolls to see if everyone on them is a citizen? You see what’s happening in Florida right now. The DoJ is freaking out because Florida wants to make sure they don’t have illegals or felons on their rolls.

ButterflyDragon on June 15, 2012 at 12:03 PM

So labor comptetition is good when it busts unions, but bad in every other instance? How is that pro-free market again?

libfreeordie on June 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM

You’re hilarious. Reining in the power of unions has nothing to do with “labor competition”. It has to do with stopping the corrupt practice of public sector union members voting for politicians (usually Democrats) who then hand out lavish benefits in exchange for their vote – benefits paid for by taxpayers; benefits which are bankrupting states and which are way in excess of what private sector employees who pay for their benefits receive.

Indeed, cutting back on these lavish benefits frees up budgets and often makes it possible for more teachers, firemen, policemen to be hired – so if the goal is to have more of the above, you should support union reform. This happened both in Wisconsin where more teachers were hired, and Indiana where more state troopers were hired.

Buy Danish on June 15, 2012 at 12:03 PM

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